Low Profile Cooling the 7800X3D... in the Fractal Terra!

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  • Опубліковано 28 гру 2024

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  • @MachinesMore
    @MachinesMore  Рік тому +34

    Quick note: As I found out afterwards, unfortunately as of right now the Big Shuriken 3 isn't available. There is something in the works though so hope to test and show you guys soon. Will also be testing ThermalRight's AXP-120 with the same setup as well.

    • @piwypd0
      @piwypd0 Рік тому

      Im buying this config.... my idea is to get into am5 with 7600 on the terra , and the upgrade to 8000 or 9000 (latest supported) down the line.

    • @arenomusic
      @arenomusic Рік тому +1

      Great video. Do you have an AXP90-X47 full copper to test? 47mm seems like the perfect size to max out on the GPU with this case.

    • @GlassPup
      @GlassPup Рік тому +1

      Can you test IS-55 and AXP-120 with 25MM fans for those of us using less "gigantic" graphics cards?

    • @glennhsu5783
      @glennhsu5783 Рік тому +1

      ⁠@@arenomusicheard a lot of good things about this cooler, hope he has some time to shed his thoughts

    • @arenomusic
      @arenomusic Рік тому

      @@glennhsu5783 Running the AXP90-X47 on a 7800X3D in a Terra right now, one of the heat pipe tips on the cooler is barely too long to fit on the ITX Gigabyte board but with some violence you can make it work since it's just copper. Left Prime95 running for 2 days after I set it up, no cooling problems at all. Kind of blew my mind how cool and quiet this CPU can run.

  • @awmcclain
    @awmcclain Рік тому +41

    Your channel has been a godsend while I'm planning my build! Thank you for your thorough explanations!

    • @Ploozy15
      @Ploozy15 11 місяців тому +6

      lmfao bro paid $10 to be ignored

    • @Ploozy15
      @Ploozy15 11 місяців тому +3

      lol imagine paying $10 to get ignored by a channel with 30k subs

    • @Garu_Df
      @Garu_Df 6 місяців тому

      😂😂😂​@@Ploozy15

  • @forbannitus
    @forbannitus Рік тому +71

    Absolutely timely for me as I am in the midst of a 7800X3D build in the Fractal Terra. Thank you

    • @Jontexperia
      @Jontexperia Рік тому +5

      Trust me its worth it, I got one paired with a 4090. Performs surprisingly well

    • @RTX4080SUPERGAMING
      @RTX4080SUPERGAMING 11 місяців тому +15

      @@Jontexperia Why would you use the word ''surprisingly'' when you literally bought the best hardware for gaming? 7800x3d is the best cpu you can buy for gaming and so the 4090

    • @RicochetForce
      @RicochetForce 11 місяців тому +2

      @@RTX4080SUPERGAMING Yeah, that's a weird choice of words.

    • @Jontexperia
      @Jontexperia 11 місяців тому +7

      @@RicochetForce How is it a weird choice of words, they perform surprisingly well considering those components are inside the footprint of half a Ps5, the Fractal Terra. They perform 'surprisingly' well compared to those components in a regular size case

    • @Jontexperia
      @Jontexperia 11 місяців тому +6

      @@RTX4080SUPERGAMING Surprisingly well compared to those same components but with a better cooling system and better airflow.

  • @ArdyneusTheGod
    @ArdyneusTheGod Рік тому +7

    It's always good to know low-profile coolers do with great CPUs.
    It shows the balance of what I can compromise and what not to compromise.

  • @Crbneee
    @Crbneee Рік тому +10

    The review i was looking for, thank you.

  • @richardfarmer6570
    @richardfarmer6570 Рік тому +4

    I have the BS3 in my Terra cooling a 12600k and works really well, I did swap the fan for a slim Noctua. I have seen several people who had the room replace the fan on the IS-55 with a 25mm fan and it worked really well also.

  • @Zekespeke
    @Zekespeke Рік тому +1

    As with maybe everybody these days (at least based on what I can see from PC Partpicker), this is an extremely relevant and timely video. I so appreciate it.

  • @davidhuston495
    @davidhuston495 Рік тому +2

    For how hard t was to find the ID SI-55 for my Terra build, I am happy to hear this. That means I can keep it for my next upgrade.

  • @sebanab1
    @sebanab1 Рік тому

    This is by far my favorite channel for tech stuff, i like the well informed reviews, i like the calm mood of the videos, and i mostly appreciate that the story is easy to follow, and very well explained!

  • @ErrorInvalidName
    @ErrorInvalidName Рік тому +6

    If you end up going for the Noctua NH-L12S on the Asus ROG Strix B650E-I it will fit with the heat pipes oriented towards the I/O if you remove the cover on the I/O section that provides only looks. Keeps this processor nicely cool.

    • @ozzracer
      @ozzracer Рік тому +1

      Can you link pictures of your set up?

    • @ErrorInvalidName
      @ErrorInvalidName Рік тому

      @@ozzracer Will try and post the url here
      drive.google.com/file/d/1rMdXhWXWZjE_EYJ82W_qmGmhwWXd4bCy/view
      This is the part you'd remove by taking out the two screws.
      drive.google.com/file/d/1rLswQ1LF-AIX017UWbsSN3TOivb2ju1T/view

  • @shusui9665
    @shusui9665 Рік тому +1

    best channel when it comes to thermals in sff builds and fan test.

  • @enders-builds
    @enders-builds Рік тому

    I have been waiting for this exact use case. Thank you

  • @mixedd69
    @mixedd69 Рік тому +4

    Does 5800X3D have a similar thermal profile to 7800X3D? As I want to downsize mine and wonder if some LP coolers can handle it

  • @marksulloway5669
    @marksulloway5669 Рік тому +13

    Nice review. Noctua really should replace the older stock 1600 RPM B9x25 fan with the newer 2000 RPM A9x25 fan for improved cooling performance.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Рік тому +3

      Cheers- agreed the B9 is a bit weak sauce. Perhaps with a Chromax update they will use the A9.

  • @Mattfication
    @Mattfication Рік тому +4

    The ram did fit because the cooler dimensions account for the sticking out part, while ram manufacturers show dimensions of the whole ram, connector included. Also it would help if you kept the same color of each cooler all the time, so people can identify it by color rather than looking at names. :) Otherwise great video, have a Terra myself and bought Big Shuriken 3. After seeing this video I think the L12 with 120mm fan might have been a better idea, but at the end.. I don't think this one is bad either so I'm fine.

    • @AndyU96
      @AndyU96 8 місяців тому +1

      That's a stupid way to define ram clearance on their part though if that's really the case. You should obviously state which dimm dimensions will be compatible instead of the total height from the top of the dimm slot to the top of the DIMM.
      Actually you know what, I dont think I got this right, can you clarify exactly what length the listed spec is referring to? Surely it's not the distance between the top of the dimm slot and the top of the dimm

  • @TheCuttz1984
    @TheCuttz1984 10 місяців тому +1

    Would have been good to see the comparison between the 7800x3d and the 7600x using the same coolers. But great review none the less.

  • @ghost-type
    @ghost-type 10 місяців тому

    I was using the L12 Ghost on my FormD T1, but I've upgraded to a 4080 Super, so my clearance now for my cooler is only 48mm. I managed to find an all copper cooler and replaced the fan with a 92mm Noctua. Performance wise, I don't really see much of a heat increase, but it is, of course, louder.

    • @escaaaaaa893
      @escaaaaaa893 9 місяців тому

      What cooler

    • @ghost-type
      @ghost-type 9 місяців тому

      @@escaaaaaa893 Thermalright AXP90-X47 Full Cooper

  • @AlfaM03
    @AlfaM03 Рік тому +1

    Sorry didn't catch it in the video. How tall till be L12 ghost with a 120 fan?

  • @sobangcha3042
    @sobangcha3042 Рік тому +3

    I'm hoping you could include some Thermalright AXP coolers on your next cooler test video. I've heard great stuff about them! Also the Scythe Shurken 3 is hard to find cause it's discontinued, that's what I got from Scythe Philippines.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Рік тому +5

      I was hoping that wasn’t the case! But yeah, I’ll see if there’s something else in the works from Scythe. Good call on Thermalright, I’ll see what I can test from them.

    • @sobangcha3042
      @sobangcha3042 Рік тому

      @MachinesMore this was the exact message I got from Scythe PH regarding my inquiry of the Shuriken 3
      "Sorry, the model has been declared end of life, manufacturer is coming up with a new model by 2nd quarter in 2024." So I guess we'll be seeing a new shuriken.

    • @gencoserpen1260
      @gencoserpen1260 Рік тому

      @@sobangcha3042 even though it is a pretty popular heatsink the decision to discontinue the Shuriken 3 is the correct decision. On some B760-I boards such as the Asus the Shuriken has trouble clearing the IO shroud. I am guessing the main reason for this is the fact that the heat spreader on the LGA1700 socket is roughly 0.8mm lower than LGA115x/1200. ID-Cooling IS-67-XT appears to be the only low-profile cooler with no clearance issues on top of the IO shroud. Scythe should redesign the Shuriken for better compatibility with beefy modern boards.

    • @roby.si.
      @roby.si. Рік тому

      ​@@MachinesMoreI have an AXP120-x67 with noctua 120x15 in my terra with an 5900x. Good performance but too much turbolance with a 3080 tuf. Not enough space from the sides.
      Unfortunaly I can't use lower cpu cooler because I have an aorus b550i from gigabyte with a taller io shield and two ram stick higher than 30mm.
      Maybe in the future with another gpu with 2.5 slot i can move my setup away from the cpu side.
      Sorry for my bad english.

  • @gooberdoober22
    @gooberdoober22 Рік тому +1

    finally someone makes this video. thank you

  • @flashjsr
    @flashjsr 11 місяців тому +1

    This channel has a lot of good videos on the fractal terra. I am planning a similar build but with a Gigabyte A620I AX or an ASRock A620I Lightning WiFi.
    I haven't found any such video on YT yet and how the VRM will perform with 7800X3D. Will the low profile fans even help in a build with the fractal terra.
    would be pairing it with the ASUS 4070 duo.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  11 місяців тому

      A top down cooler helps a lot with board cooling, much more important than the case fan would help. I haven’t tested the 7800X3D with that board but chip should be fine given the low power draw.

    • @spike178
      @spike178 10 місяців тому +1

      Same probably get a Asrock A620i for £170, good value.
      Was planning to get the 65 watt 7700 but might go for 7800x3d doesn't cost much more but was worried about high temps.

  • @puneetpuri2758
    @puneetpuri2758 Рік тому +1

    is 55 7800x3d and 4080 is what I am now in the middle of fitting in. So thank you

  • @blindman8093
    @blindman8093 Рік тому +1

    have you tried axp90-x53 with this fractal terra?

  • @fuhfjfdsadhgbt9307
    @fuhfjfdsadhgbt9307 Рік тому

    I have the Coolermaster Elite 130 which technically supports coolers 67mm in height. However, right above that 67mm is the solid wall of the power supply, so I wouldn't think the fans would be moving much air at max cooler height.
    How much gap between the fan and the brick wall is needed? An IS-55 would only have about 10mm of space, whereas smaller and less performant cooler might actually perform better because there is more volume above it to pull air.

  • @BelliSenior
    @BelliSenior Рік тому +1

    Considering this case down the line once i start my studies abroad again, wondering how a build would work with the asus pro art rtx 4080 cards, looks like a good pairing

  • @cavemantero
    @cavemantero Рік тому

    Thanks. I actually want to build with a 7700x and this showed me the L12s 120mm is the way to go. I need those decibels down and the ghost is just too hot for the difference.

  • @mannylupercio8194
    @mannylupercio8194 Рік тому +1

    I went with the IS 55 as well but added a 25mm noctua chroma fan.

    • @Qasper69
      @Qasper69 Рік тому

      How did it go? I'm going with the same solution hoping for the best.

    • @mannylupercio8194
      @mannylupercio8194 Рік тому

      @@Qasper69 Haven't had any issues yet. The downside is that I couldn't have a 25mm fan when I upgraded to a 4080 FE - I had to downsize the fan to a 15mm Noctua Chromax but it works just fine imo. Idling, the CPU sits at around 32-35c. Gaming, it can go as high as 80c+ for intensive games but that is without an undervolt. After an undervolt, I can experience

  • @papec122
    @papec122 Місяць тому

    so the l12 ghost s1 stock is quiet while gaming, did I understand you right? Could you describe the noise level?

  • @swlak516
    @swlak516 8 місяців тому

    Big shuriken 3 still not available on Amazon :(

  • @dan.downing
    @dan.downing Рік тому

    For a truly POWERful and COOL Terra build, any chance we could get a look at the Cooler Master V 1100 SFX PSU in that case? Can the exhaust fan be mounted on the bottom with the extended power connectors?

  • @gpsousa1
    @gpsousa1 9 місяців тому +1

    @Machines & More Thanks for this great video. What Air Cooler to you think its the best option for the Lian Li A4-H20? I will use a Ryzen 7600X

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  9 місяців тому +1

      If your board fits it the IS-55 from ID Cooling works well!

  • @CalQdeX
    @CalQdeX Рік тому

    Thank you, exactly the info I needed!

  • @M3M3M32
    @M3M3M32 8 місяців тому

    A bit late comment here, but as a Noctua fan I wonder why you did not include
    NH-L12Sx77 in this test? I really like the Terra case, my only concern is the noice levels.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  8 місяців тому

      It’s a do-able configuration as long as you have the clearance, that 77mm config would require position 1 and a compatible 2-slot GPU, plus, it would place the cooler very very close to the side panel, which has a tendency to cause turbulent noise in the case.

    • @xeontron964
      @xeontron964 6 місяців тому

      @@MachinesMore @M3M3M32 i cool my 7800x3d with the NH-L12Sx77 and its idle is 50 C and with a 15 % cpu load 75 c is this normal ?

  • @GungHoSourdough
    @GungHoSourdough Рік тому

    Could you do one with the Fractal north to cool the 7800X3D?

  • @MrGuitarfreak132
    @MrGuitarfreak132 6 місяців тому

    Extremely helpful thank you!

  • @tommyrunner
    @tommyrunner Рік тому

    great review... I got a BeQuiet Loop II 120 with 7600X , need to use ECO mode to keep good temps. Now wondering about putting into PC 7800X3D :)

  • @blogJM
    @blogJM 4 місяці тому

    Would love to see a normalized test where you do a NF-A12x15 fan swap. ID-Cooling makes great coolers but they are known for having the worst fan possible. I wouldn't be surprised if we see marginal improvements on that IS-55.

  • @injectionAI
    @injectionAI 4 місяці тому

    Can you pry off the wood? I hate that part

  • @cheaterjung8096
    @cheaterjung8096 10 місяців тому

    Do you have anny issues with your Mainboard and DDR5? Do you made some changes in Bios to fix the EXPO and slow boot?
    I have the same motherboard and COU, but slow boot and sometimes i have a BIOS reset...

  • @Cypher_NZ
    @Cypher_NZ 9 місяців тому

    The best way I have found to run this cpu in a sff setup is to set the PPT to 75w. In that config I boost to 4.8-4.9ghz all core. While staying under 70c while gaming.

  • @saylouu
    @saylouu Рік тому

    Which RAM did you exactly use while testing the NH-L12 Ghost Edition with the 120mm fan (NF-A12x25)?
    As i have already bought RAM with a height of 35mm im curious if it will still fit under the fan.
    I have read on reddit that 34mm is the maximum RAM height with the 120mm fan installed to the NH-L12 Ghost...

  • @MattiaTorres
    @MattiaTorres 10 місяців тому

    Hi! Nice video! I have a question: I have a 78003xd with a Noctua NH-L12S, and the temps during gaming hit around 65-75, with some games reaching 78C peaks. I am not sure this is normal behavior but I already tried swapping thermal paste or changing the cooler offset with no significant impact. I also set CO -30. Idle temps are aroud 50-60C. Do you think that my setup is correct? Are these temps normal?

  • @TheHornet79
    @TheHornet79 Рік тому

    For the ghost ls12 shouldn’t the cpu fan work as an exhaust to push the air outside the case? Why does it push air toward the motherboard?

  • @dracolnyte
    @dracolnyte Рік тому

    thanks. is there a B650 board that works with the IS-55 where the cooler overhangs the rear I/O? or would an A620i be better?

  • @Techno4more
    @Techno4more 9 місяців тому

    wow my shuriken 3 still coming in clutch. havent used it in years but im thinkng of going itx again

  • @Alastasius
    @Alastasius Рік тому +1

    The Fractal Terra is a beautiful case. Unfortunately, temps all around were horrible. Tried the A4-H2O and it was great, but it would still throttle the CPU with an AIO. The Meshroom S worked beautifully. @5ghz consistent. No micro stutters in game after switching between these three cases.
    Then again, I do live in Southern California, so temperatures are pretty high here. Regardless, the Meshroom S is the one I recommend for anyone if they want to squeeze every last drop of value from their CPUs and the rest of their systems while still keeping the footprint of their system small.

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Рік тому +1

      Interesting- so even with a 240 in the A4-H2O your 7800X3D was held back?

    • @Alastasius
      @Alastasius Рік тому

      @@MachinesMore Yes! As stated before however, I do live in an area where ambient temperatures are above 80 at times, so if anyone seems to be in a similar situation as I am, perhaps they may be better served with a case such as the Meshroom S.
      It seems that those who live in a chill environment that is air conditioned nicely don't seem to complain too much about temperatures, but that's just what I see personally.

    • @dewjustin
      @dewjustin Рік тому

      My 7800x3d runs just fine in my h2o, even with 80-85f ambient temps with a 240mm aio, I'm surprised you had issues. Seems like it could have been a mounting issue or something. 4090/7800x3d in 11L running beautifully, no stutters, no throttling, no issues at all. Even stays under 89c during cinebench R23 loops (80-86c depending on ambient). Gaming it runs in the 55-70c range.

  • @lourisgr
    @lourisgr Рік тому

    Excellent video, that adresses my main fear with this case that I've seen from some reviews, the nosie due to weird air interaction with the cutouts. Seems like there are some options to mitigate it!

  • @arrowsmind6605
    @arrowsmind6605 9 місяців тому

    i am planning to use this cooler in a mini itx build Thermalright AXP90-X53 i might delid or lap the cpu which shall i go for?

  • @shortyidaho
    @shortyidaho Рік тому

    With the l12s which way did you face the fan?

  • @AutodidactEngineer
    @AutodidactEngineer Рік тому

    Hands down my favourite tech tuber 🙌

  • @RossBlitz_LD
    @RossBlitz_LD 3 місяці тому

    Will it 14900k with a 4090 though?

  • @raganaxg
    @raganaxg 11 місяців тому

    what about 7950x3d?is it possible?

  • @Criiies
    @Criiies Рік тому

    Pls test the thermalright axp90 x47

  • @TheHamzax7
    @TheHamzax7 Рік тому

    So, I’m little confused can someone please tell me which one is the coolest I really don’t care about being quiet?

  • @rambo7890
    @rambo7890 Рік тому

    @MachinesMore i have sae setup mine goes to 87C at 75ish watts is it normal. Idle is at 40-50

  • @nsuinteger-au
    @nsuinteger-au Рік тому

    Why does the components inside this case look crooked? ...

  • @Zimzim-v2x
    @Zimzim-v2x Рік тому

    Great review!

  • @Looodz
    @Looodz Рік тому

    Would you say that these cpu coolers would give similar results for a 5900x?

  • @TheHornet79
    @TheHornet79 Рік тому

    I want do the Ghost L12s with 120mmX15mm fan configuration. I worry about ram height though. My Trident ram is 1.73in/44mm so I am not sure it will work

    • @masterdftw4983
      @masterdftw4983 Рік тому +1

      I have looked most places and low profile is what you need with the l12s. This was also my problem.

  • @the-patient-987
    @the-patient-987 Рік тому +5

    It would be nice to see this coolers taming the 7800X3D inside the NR200.

    • @Jacketz123
      @Jacketz123 7 місяців тому

      May as well just get a bigger cooler in a case the size of the NR200 no?

  • @香噴噴-p6f
    @香噴噴-p6f Рік тому

    there's still is67xt and axp 120

  • @superstaples
    @superstaples Рік тому

    What about the IS55 with a full 120mm noctua fan? Then I could stick the slim ID cooling fan as ehaust under the PSU?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Рік тому +1

      Sure, that's theoretically possible. In my build with the MSI board the heatsink could only mount in a way where the bottom lip of the case precluded a thicker fan even though there was space between the side panel and the cooler. Also test for turbulence in the Terra though, proximity to the vents can cause odd noise.

  • @orion9k
    @orion9k 2 місяці тому

    Pretty sure that Noctua NH-L12S (not the one you used) is still the best.

    • @papec122
      @papec122 Місяць тому

      seems like it, but I've heard it can cause turbulence noise with 40mm gpu height, l12 ghost s1 doesn't have that issue

  • @TheNorwegianDronePilot
    @TheNorwegianDronePilot Рік тому

    Hey. What is the RAM clearance (in mm) on the 'Scythe Big Shuriken 3 Rev. B' that you tested?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Рік тому +1

      It should clear most mobo rear IO heatsinks such that you can install without overhanging the RAM- but if somehow you cannot avoid that config then it’s 36mm.

  • @vincentvega3093
    @vincentvega3093 Рік тому +2

    Ooh yeah. Terra nigma

  • @EvilDeadGuy666
    @EvilDeadGuy666 Рік тому

    Hi what low profile cpu cooler would you recommend using on the AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core 3.8GHz (4.7GHz Max Boost)

  • @arewealone9969
    @arewealone9969 Рік тому

    Awesome content!

  • @blindman8093
    @blindman8093 Рік тому

    please try thermalright axp120-x67

  • @Jagi603
    @Jagi603 Рік тому +1

    Will Noctua LH12S and 13600k work?

  • @ozzracer
    @ozzracer Рік тому

    by using the s1 ghost edition you gain 4mm clerance right?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Рік тому +1

      Yup, vs the L12S.

    • @ozzracer
      @ozzracer Рік тому

      @@MachinesMore thanks didnt know you can use 120mm fan with the ghost edition.This 4mm can help to save a lot of turbulance from the gpu side

  • @MprivetM
    @MprivetM 2 місяці тому

    If only fractal made terra in size of era 2. with place for AIO. That would be a banger in instant buy from me!

  • @wcg66
    @wcg66 Рік тому

    Really useful info. Even if you are using a difference CPU/motherboard combination I suspect the cooling aspects would be similar.

  • @strfrieue
    @strfrieue Рік тому

    thanks brother, i want build this

  • @HuntaKiller91
    @HuntaKiller91 Рік тому

    Is40x v3 might do just fine for gaming

  • @moasto02
    @moasto02 Рік тому

    I feel like selling my formd T1 for a Terra just so I can have some front-side IO

  • @Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover
    @Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover Рік тому

    I wanted the Terra so bad but when I seen GNs review, when door is closed the fans put off a horrible noise being so close to the door itself, I decided to pass.

    • @lourisgr
      @lourisgr Рік тому

      I was put off by that as well, but it seems that some CPU coolers/fans mitigate this issue, based on this video, no?

  • @najeebshah.
    @najeebshah. Рік тому

    why not compare it to wraith prism?

    • @MachinesMore
      @MachinesMore  Рік тому +4

      I wouldn't recommend going out and getting one for this CPU, at one point they came with the R7s but that's no longer the case. Also, it doesn't fit in the case- it's a pretty tall cooler for only having a 92mm fan.

    • @spike178
      @spike178 10 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂 no thanks.

  • @H8964K
    @H8964K Рік тому

    For 67cm cooler, you should try the new id cooling is-67 xt.

  • @thetechnerd7467
    @thetechnerd7467 Рік тому +1

    I think I will just stick to ATX. This whole thing seems complicated

  • @Lucckyy777
    @Lucckyy777 9 місяців тому

    LOL rly?