Every once in awhile, life offers you an unexpected bit of comfort. When I subscribed to your channel, I had no idea about your physical health and simply felt attracted to your perspectives and analysis on Russia and western philosophy. None the less, after learning about your health challenges fairly early on in my discovery of your channel, I became even more intrigued. Pardon me, but today's video inspired me to share, something I very seldom do. By age 29 I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, (which I had symptoms of from age 14.) I continued jumping out of helicopters as a trauma transport RN. By age 36 fibromyalgia was added to my repertoire of diagnoses and hopefully finally, after suffering every imaginable complication following colon cancer surgery, (skipping over that dx and massive trial) before age 40 and fourteen years later, I was informed that I have had M.S. for 20-25+ years. To be honest, in some ways, the diagnosis brought me comfort, by acknowledging that I was not insane, yet it also has significantly stifled my, "I can conquer anything," perspective on life. The pain and the mind/muscle frustration is challenging, but I too refuse to wallow in my physical (incredibly frustrating) challenges and simply choose to see/accept what each day offers me. I still have my brain! 😉👍 Thanks again for sharing!😊
I, too, have been dealing with my own mixed bag. Though reactions to my conditions when I was young were less than helpful, I'm learning, like both of you, that this is just part of life. That idea of taking things as they come has been a challenge for me as well, but age and being a parent have helped mellow my expectations. Reading about your experiences and how you dealt with them is a comfort and boost to me, knowing that others out there understand. Thank you!✌️😎🍀
I’m 80 and hurting a lot more than I have during most of my life. When I broke my shoulder badly some years ago I had after a few weeks of recovery on pain killers that allowed me to rest deeply. The drug stopped working one night and the pain was bad enough so that sleep was out of the question. But I noticed something peculiar. The pain was really bad, but I simultaneously was experiencing heartfelt gratitude that I had not passed my entire life experiencing such pain. I understood this experience in terms of the Buddha’s teaching about the two darts of pain. The first dart is the physical pain that is an inevitable part of life and is not optional. The second dart is the suffering that can go with pain, but it is optional. So I accept my current condition as part of life and your dancing through the pain is a helpful way to live with it. Thank you.😅
I love the fact that you are utilizing your intellect and eloquence to verbalize your experiences living w/ a debilitating chronic illness. Much support and love and identification from the USA 🇺🇸, brother.
While I don't have ME I do have a condition that is diagnosed only by exclusion, as like ME, there is no definitive "test" for it. My rheumatologist's "best guess" is it is palindromic rheumatism. Episodes of joint pain, autoimmune in origin. Mine is not typical, one episode rolling into the next, so it's constant rather than spasmodic flairs, and differs only by location and intensity. I like how you call it dancing, because that is exactly how it is. 35 years of it has taught me to treat it as background noise. It's always there but you don't consciously think about it unless or until it increases in intensity and you have to find another way of doing something, or do something else entirely that doesn't involve movements that are particularly painful that day. My philosophy is that you can choose to be a victim and waste your life giving into it, or you can choose to be a survivor and experience the many other positive things life has to offer.
Thank you Vlad. Little different for me. First I am in my 88th year. Everyone says you can expect illness and pain in old age, its normal. I say it is still pain. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis which is attacking and destroying my joints. It has already attacked my lungs and several other parts that people don’t realise are part of the disease. Like you, none of this shows as I stand in front of anyone except if they see my twisted fingers and hands. But what I am trying to get at is that I have never been used to not being able to walk, eat properly, look after myself. I was a physical training instructor and played sports all my life. Now I am trying to find ways to cope, not to give in to depression, another thing I have never known. I have to escape mentally. I have done this with my iPad and the internet. Finding people like you to listen to and other thinkers. I follow our UK and world politics. I got into Chinese dance and drama which set me of studying their history. I am a history buff. While I am lost and doing these things pain seems to be less. Except If I try to type something long like this, I can’t dictate as my husband is around all the time looking after me. He is not interested in the same things. I have a friend with ME who is as bad as you. I think it is so good that you allow people to know how you feel. I am going to recommend you videos to her. It may help her but who knows, it may only reinforce her pain to hear of somebodies else’s. I don't know, I try to learn as much as I can about my problem and sometimes find solutions. I live in Devon UK. Thanks again. Very interested in Russia and Ukraine at this time.
Thank you both for your comments. It is so comforting and helpful to see that I'm not alone in dealing with these types of challenges and that others have insights on how to deal with these things life throws at us. Vlad is awesome for all he does, as well as inspiring a community such as this. Take care fellow travelers and dancers! ✌️😎🍀
I am living through chronic pain as well. I have a disease that has damaged nerve endings throughout my entire body and as a result, I am living with pain that keeps me grounded pretty much most of my life. It is horrible, it is intense, and it has taken over my life. I have extremely high inner drive that, in the past, has pushed me to do some pretty extreme things in my life, such as running ultra marathons. I'm sure most can relate to how hard it can be to wake up at 4:30am on a very cold and dark morning, sometimes with sleet or snow mixed in as well. I did this every morning just run a quick 15 mile run before work. Anyway, that drive pushed me through the first 8 or so years of my condition but unfortunately, that drive is slowly starting to wear off. I spend most of every day sitting in a recliner chair in my bedroom and watching a ton of UA-cam videos. There is a plus side, I was given 3 years to live with pretty much a zero percent chance of surviving, and that was 8 yes ago. I do agree with you that it is now a part of who we are and just like everything else that becomes a part of our life, we have to live with it, there is no other option and we must accept it.
"Do the next thing" - don't think of everything you want to do. Do what you are doing now. When you are done, then just do the next thing you want to do. I find it's less overwhelming to not think about things you may or may not get done. Live in the moment 😊💜
40 years of pain and I am still here. I have learnt that you have to accept it and control it. Box it up and say to your self this too will pass. What I admire about you is that your intellect has not been damaged.
Absolutely spot on. One of the best things that I’ve done to deal with this awful disease was to learn about pain management. You describe the process so well. I apply the principles of pain management to all of my symptoms, not just the pain. It helps to remove the anxiety, depression and “fight or flight” feeling, all of which are normal responses to pain, exhaustion, dizziness, nausea, etc, etc, and allows me to accept the symptoms without allowing them to own me. I still feel those symptoms, they’ll always be there, but I can detach from them to some degree. Thank you for your talks about ME, they always help.
I have a nerve condition that makes it incredibly painful to talk, eat or drink. Fortunately it is manageable with medication but those have side effects that, frankly, make me feel like my brain dies not work. I appreciate you uploading this video. It's so easy to get down and wonder "why". But that leads no where. I will definitely incorporate that this pain is simply part of my life into my thoughts when I get frustrated.
The deep and profound realisation that I am not this body, I am not this mind with it's thoughts and emotions is truly liberating. That doesn't mean that all these things are not experienced but that psychological suffering no longer takes hold in the same way. Essentially, there is no one here to suffer, as Vlad alludes to, this is simply what's happening right now and I neither want nor don't want any of it, it is irrelevant because I know who I really am.
Same here Vlad. I've been to some dark rooms of hell with m.e. Where you can't move, stand up, barely talk...all of it. I'm traumatised by those times. No one understands. I can't relate it to anyone I find this the hardest thing to deal with. Being so alone and sometimes feeling close to death. I've posted a few times on your pages. I like your intelligence. The dance thing I get. I've done. Lot if breath work and meditation to work with the suffering. A lot of resistance is the suffering. But sometimes, as you know, it's n I describable chamber of helplessness, pain and fea. Congratulations on keeping posting. I'm trying to finish an album of music..it's become a running joke, people think im procrastinating. Such ignorance. I have to steal moment s as nd when I can My life is not normal, or what I want My self esteem ha been rocked to the core. Who am I? What is me? What is the illness? What can I expect for the future and how can I relate to other people. Sometimes, I can't believe this has happened to me. I feel cursed and somehow pathetic. But positively, there is a cleansing in being this ill. It removes hubris, helps you see life clearly ( when the brain fog lifts) helps you develop your soul and shadow self It's been a shock to me how the world I thought was solid, the world of science and medicine specifically, is one of the most corrupt poisonous and cruel " industries" out there. I have no illusions and now I can't trust anything said in any power structure. I'm interested in how you see this was and power structures in general since having m.e. And just people in general. You just see how grasping , fearfulmand controlled people are. Any thoughts?
Ive lived w extreme pain near 16years myself. it was a moment during temporary relief & recovery that i had FULL realization of what i live with daily. Tough stuff❤
I suffer from severe PAD and neuropathy in my feet and legs. The pain at times is excruciating. It’s like a “blooming pain” is my feet or lower legs are even brushed against by clothing or a strong breeze! Starts off as a slight tingling and slowly BLOOMS into the most excruciatingly sensation of fire and needles piercing every nanometer of your skin and muscles…. It’s hard to focus and breathe through the pain sometimes. I use deep breathing and transcendental meditation as coping mechanisms. The drugs don’t do anything really except cloud my head and make it harder to focus on breathing and clearing my mind.
Yeah. This is real. This short clip in its way is one of the realest things I’ve ever seen of yours. Pain is the realest thing there is. It’s the only experience that reliably turns knowledge into understanding. If it doesn’t embitter us of course. This is your most inspiring quality Vlad. Your heroic work. Forgive me for saying this but it leaves your Ukraine work for dead, spiritually speaking
I agree with you completely. The pain is part of life, and one has great moments , when one is so intellectually engaged, one forgets about the pain while this is happening. Alas, I cannot induce this ignoring of the reality of the situation , at will. Stay strong, as the pain is like a companion, and has hopefully made us much more accepting of reality, than fighting it. Live for the moment. Thank you, as I find your posts very interesting and have recommended you to others who think.
Very inspiring! I have been suffering from a kind of "non-localized headache" for seven years. This was from a brain stroke with some later complications, but I feel fine today. the only reason I feel this way, is the same kind of training and willful attitude that you talk about in your video. Mindfulness and acceptance (without giving in) of what you can't change is the key to be present in your own life and that of your family and friends. Illness be damned! Live your life to the fullest extent possible to you I say, and simply enjoy the one magnificent gift we have been granted in eternity: a single life. Bless you, my friend, and hang in there for all of those little, important things, and remember: A stream feeds into a river, and a river feeds into an all encompassing ocean - the entirety that is our time in this place.
You're a bit of a life changer mate, in the sense that your views contribute to restructured thinking. The fact that it's hard for you to find the literal energy sometimes puts my struggles with depression and energy in to some degree of perspective. Well done, however I appreciate we are catching you at your good moments. I hope you have people there for the bad ones, too. I for one would not have the drive to do what you do.
Yeah, you know you're life isn't so bad after all after listening to videos like this and realising that some people have a great deal more to cope with and seem to manage.
Vlad, oh how I felt your emotions as I also have had ME for 18 years. Your words brought tears of knowing and a smile of acceptance…I think! My dancing is most often a sign of rebellion against my body. I rejoice in the moments of intended freedom despite the crumbling of my body that occurs afterward. As long as I fight back, I live. Your heart and mind are gifts to us all. Thank you. Diane
You are inspiring! I have CML and have to take chemo daily. I just got a knee replaced, but I am OUT of the wheelchair! I pray in silence daily, (today for 2 hours, I guess...) and do the One Day (hour, minute, second...) at a Time, too. To suffer IS to live. It is what we do with the suffering that defines us more than anything else. God Bless You!
Vlad, i got here via your Ukraine analysis videos. Although I’m not in any pain that’s unusual for my age and physical condition, my wife has suffered some bad things. 1, 2 and 3 sound like practical, achievable approaches. I’ve passed the link to her.
I too received great benefit from this wisdom/perspective. I am physically well but adverse childhood experiences have left me with a subtle yet devastating and pervasive feeling of there being something wrong with me. I’ve wasted decades trying to figure it out. My world got smaller and smaller as I couldn’t - it’s not a problem to solve but rather a condition to be managed. . Like any reading this I didn’t choose this for my life experience. It’s just the way my life is working out. I wasted too much time avoiding life because it’s always emotionally painful. It’s helpful for me to adopt the mindset of living with chronic physical pain: just accepting that engaging with life, with people will constantly set off alarms, will constantly trigger deep shame, that my emotional regulation feels constantly at risk. . But this is my life. Those feelings and triggers are what they are: constant companions I need to accept and to dance with.
@@CorePathway Thank you for sharing that. I share that experience, too, but couldn't describe how I was processing things. You described it in a way that fits. I understand pain, as I have some conditions that have been with me. So I was processing those experiences in the same way. I always appreciate wisdom that gives me insight into myself or others. Thank you. 🍀
Thanks for giving me language to explain what I have been doing for 60 years since a car accident at 19. Although I am convinced that what I experience is considerably milder than that experienced by a close friend with MS and with someone who has the condition you do, the metaphor of dance is spot on!
God bless you Vlad and admire your strength and determination to help others that might be through pain. Thanks for sharing very intimate thoughts with your viewers while transmitting hope and serenity.
I have pain causing ailments that come with aging. The idea of " dancing through" is new to me, and inspiring! The saying that man makes plans and God laughs has been too true. Thank you for the inspiration!
"chronic fatigue syndrome" does not seem to accurately describe the perils the disease actually entails. sheesh. my mom is dealing with something similar after covid, but it is not affecting her as severely as what you described here, and I'm glad.
God bless you Vlad! I’ve been struggling with Panic disorder so I can only imagine what you go through on a daily basis! I pray God’s strength for you and peace and healing.
To some extent I’ve learnt to dance as well, Vlad. I used to consider my condition “the enemy”, but it’s not. It’s part of me. Thanks for this beautiful video. Sometimes I forget to dance, and those are the bad days. You’re inspiring me to dance, even though it might tear me to shreds.
Thank you Vlad... you have harnessed at least one possible benefit from this bane of your health and that is wise and useful advice, well elucidated, to help us who are not as well-travelled as you in the mindset required to live with pain. In short, you have used your pain to reduce to sum total pain in the world. Thank you mate.
This is a nice little video I'm sure many people will appreciate. I liked how you said it becomes part of your life, eventhough we didn't want that. It's so true. For me personally I delved deep into spiritual philosophy, which I might never have done otherwise. It's kind of been a blessing for me and still living with the pain of course , it's just part and parcel of my life here and now.
I suffer from pain too, I can block it out in the day but night is a problem , I need to keep thinking or things and doing things , even something simple like stoking the cat helps !
I viewed this video 9 months ago. So funny... I'm laughing at myself... I was about to comment to my own comment from 9 months ago and say, "I read Lord of the Dance also.".... Until I saw my name.
Vlad - I think your sharing your journey living with ME is invaluable particularly for anyone living with chronic pain. As you well know chronic pain can be profoundly isolating and your efforts provide others with community. Thank you. If you have not discovered her already, you might check out the work of Rachel Zoffness, M.S., PHD with the University of California-San Francisco School of Medicine. She writes on the biopsychosocial nature of pain and by understanding its nature one can work to improve management of it. Your approach seems to be in harmony with her work and efforts in this area.
Thank you Vlad. I was feeling poorly during the summer. I did manage to refurbish an old dresser that I started in July and finished in October. It took me over 3 months and I’m so damn proud of myself. 😊 I’ve been better for the past week or so, thanking a break with medication 💊 I guess. Please take care of yourself. It’s always wonderful to see you when you are ready. I don’t demand anything more from you than that dear, and I think your community has the same expectation. Stay well and take care of Vlad. 🙌🏼💙
Thanks dear Vlad 💛 I absolutely agree. I deal with the pain and do active breath work through it in order to calm my stress, irritability and anxiety. I found my biggest challenge, 11 some years ago was the immense depression I went through dealing with the loss of my career and what I went to university for. It took a couple of difficult and painful years to push through because my mom died of a heart attack at a young age right at the beginning of my professional ending. I get through it all better emotionally for the most part but I have discovered since then that grieving the loss of my old life is certainly not linear. It is circular. Each time gets easier a bit. Much love to you for uploading so many videos to each of your channels. I truly look up to your motivation and information you supply to all of us. We are your family.
Look, I am glad you aren’t ready to Push the ejection method yet. I am there. I have severe RA and a horrible spine. I just had my 5th spinal fusion a month ago. My surgeon prescribed lortabs for one week after surgery. The USA has been in an “opioid epidemic” for years. I haven’t taken pain medication for at least 6 years but can tell you I can no longer cope. When I am finished clearing out what I believe my son won’t want or need, I will be gone. On my terms and it’s in the immediate future. I know how and where I will do it. There is no longer compassion for those of us in 24 hour pain, in the USA at least it is looked down on to be in pain, so you hide it, smile and carry on. I’m done with it though. Hope to someday meet you on the other side.
Hi Vlad, this is a really touching, if brief, conversation, I got a lot from it. I'd love to hear more along these lines in the future. Congratulations on the channels' success, your work is nuanced and considered and I'm heartened to see your number of subscribers and views rocketing up.
Great! There are many who would appreciate hearing this. I did. TBI ABI myself , head pressure, pain and discomfort is a result of any sudden movement or physical actions as well as stressful emotional situations. How we deal with these ailments, makes a lot of difference to our quality of life 😊
That was one of the best explanation of thing I've heard. One of the most difficult than it is explaining to people. When they say just get up into something. If they can't see it We just don't understand. They think I'm going to keep this from my phone. 14ys of pain.Thank you
I have such deep respect for you. It's not often someone makes me reflect on life and filosofy the way you do. Your way of expressing yourself just resonates with me. My deepest respect, from sweden.
I'm so grateful you posted this. You did a much better job expressing what it's like to live with chronic pain (or any other chronic disorder) than I've been able to come up with. I live with pretty disabling nerve pain that affects a lot of areas of my life. It's been 5 years, but I've only recently started to emerge from the self-hatred, moralizing and "why-me"ing over it. This video came at a good time. I appreciate your insights. Thank you.
When I was at my worst my son was 5 years old. This was difficult and did help a lot at the same time. The second part is true, because I could always be sure my family would care for him when I could not. Building a network is very important.
It sounds so familiar. I've been dealing with sarcoïdosis for over 7 years now. It mainly affects my joint, tendons and muscles, though my saliva glands can get inflamed, which is also painful. If I'm lucky, they keep doing their jobs. They don't always. Sometimes the disease goes in remission for a while and there's still a chance it'll do so completely. In the form in which I have it, the symptoms can last for years even while in remission and so for the past 7 years, I've been painfree for maybe 2 months. Far worse than the pain for me, is the fatigue. I don't remember what it's like to feel fit. All my life I've dealt with anxiety and fear. My oldest memories are of being afraid (of my father). I struggled with that for most of my life, and I've become accustomed to living with a certain level of discomfort. Pain was just another factor in that discomfort. I've learned to accept them as a part of life, a part of me and I use breathing techniques to breathe my way through it, be it the fysical pain, anxiety or some other emotional distress (my Mum has dementia). I can just let it be, whatever it is sort of sits there and I am aware of it, but it does not rule and it does not ruin my day. Take care, much love.
Pain, whether emotional or physical can teach us so much if we allow this..acceptance of the pain can be meditative if we accept it as our bodies talking to us, and asking us to love ourselves no matter what, that we are not our pain. Pain can sometimes decrease if we can ask ourselves what we are learning from the pain and follow that inner guidance for advice. Sometimes pain is present and nothing helps as it is organic pain, and this too can teach us to be stronger and teach us acceptance of having no control over the uncontrollable. Pain can be a gift in disguise if we study it with curiousity. And yes, I am also one who has had several experiences of pain, both "small" and "excruciating". Pain can challenge the very foundations of our lives, there are "good days" and "bad days" that ebb and flow.. 💞🙏Vlad for sharing this video. When we share our experiences lovingly and kindly with others it validates and gives support to others who may not have this otherwise. Take care everyone 🕊️
Thanks for your comments, Vlad. Personally, part of my mind focussing on creating, or planning to create, acts as an ally against the pain, and I no longer see it as an enemy, and I also try not to dwell on where the pain is located at any one time. I do hope you swing into a better cycle very soon so that you can continue to give to others.
My handling of pain (mainly emotional, but a few times also physical) is to just "let it be". Pain as such is not a problem, more like a sort of noise, but obviously the cause of the pain could be a problem. If I'm able to do something about that, great, but if not, letting the pain "fill up" my mind would only make it worse. It helps to understand why the pain is there, and then it just becomes a circumstance in my life. While I may not want it, there are also many other things which are not what I'd ideally want, and things I cannot change are not where my mind should spend much time.
Thank you Vlad your stoicism and the analogies you use are inspirational. You bring great light into the world. I shall keep praying that you get more relief and more opportunity to do the things you love. Stephen
Hi Vlad, I’m coming late but it is right now when I realised that what you’re suffering from is the same condition my mother suffers from. I know too well how it develops and there’s no day I wish there was a cure for it. I have my mom lying on the sofa while I’m writing these lines, after a long day where she only managed to wash herself. I wish you a better prognosis than my mother’s and all the best. You’re a good man. You’re a good man.
I admire you for your drive. I’ve lived with mine since May 31, 1989. It makes life not worth living. Maybe if I had a life then I could fight it. But I don’t. The only relief I get is when I am asleep. I wish for death so that I will finally be out of pain. I’m only given acetaminophen.
Sometimes I can dance with pain, but sometimes the chair isn't close enough to stop dancing. I've been dealing with pain in both hips and legs for about 20 years now, but I still have to go outside and trim trees and bushes and drag it all away uphill. It does make the chair just that much more welcoming. Unfortunately where I live I could throw a can of green beans out in the yard and have a canned green bean tree in a year or so.
Season changes are quite the, “dance”. I hope you’re feeling better very soon. It’s so hard to not let it consume me sometimes. Also those that say, “you look great.” Looking and feeling are quite different things. Few understand that.
I feel you. Can’t help my tears streaming down my cheeks. Lots of love, Grace 💛 (probably should rename myself to “platonic Grace” don’t want/need miss understandings(
Dear Vlad. I follow your other channels and happened to stumble onto this. In your very special way you gave me a complete new insight and way of coping with my anxiety disorder. The last point about the dance is my morning mantra every morning since. Thank you, it helps!!!
Thanks for your offering, Vlad. I’m going through vision impairment with no clear prognosis. Your personal insight converges with how I am trying to cope. And I can still see, Al Hamdullilah !
Good on you, Vlad! I was raised to make the very best of every situation (even the painful ones have a positive note to focus on). This does make the difference and I am elated for you to have found your dancing skills. ❤️
I really appreciate the video. I can't help but think about all the stupid shit people bitch and shine about as if they have it so bad and there are people like you living with chronic pain for 2 decades. Thank you for the perspective you give.
Thank you for this video 💜I personally suffer from ankylosing Spondylitis, Fibro, osteoarthritis and a few other things. For me personally Im having trouble coping with the Emotional side of things. I honestly think I have PTSD to pain and suffering. Just when one recovers from one flair...... There always seems to be another in the horizon. Iv personally decided that when things get worse I will be looking into Dying With Dignity 💜Keep well everyone. Sending love from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦
Very helpful. My outlook on the chronic daily pain is often not good. On the bad days like today I yell out when the pain strikes hard. Yes, 'dancing with it' is a good way to cope with it. On those days I try avoid making a lot of pain if possible, and figuring out what i can do that day to still enjoy it. It means that planning much is really most likely a far-fetched idea.
Every once in awhile, life offers you an unexpected bit of comfort. When I subscribed to your channel, I had no idea about your physical health and simply felt attracted to your perspectives and analysis on Russia and western philosophy.
None the less, after learning about your health challenges fairly early on in my discovery of your channel, I became even more intrigued. Pardon me, but today's video inspired me to share, something I very seldom do.
By age 29 I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, (which I had symptoms of from age 14.) I continued jumping out of helicopters as a trauma transport RN. By age 36 fibromyalgia was added to my repertoire of diagnoses and hopefully finally, after suffering every imaginable complication following colon cancer surgery, (skipping over that dx and massive trial) before age 40 and fourteen years later, I was informed that I have had M.S. for 20-25+ years. To be honest, in some ways, the diagnosis brought me comfort, by acknowledging that I was not insane, yet it also has significantly stifled my, "I can conquer anything," perspective on life. The pain and the mind/muscle frustration is challenging, but I too refuse to wallow in my physical (incredibly frustrating) challenges and simply choose to see/accept what each day offers me. I still have my brain! 😉👍
Thanks again for sharing!😊
You've really gone through it. Hope you are AWAP (as well as possible).
I, too, have been dealing with my own mixed bag. Though reactions to my conditions when I was young were less than helpful, I'm learning, like both of you, that this is just part of life. That idea of taking things as they come has been a challenge for me as well, but age and being a parent have helped mellow my expectations.
Reading about your experiences and how you dealt with them is a comfort and boost to me, knowing that others out there understand. Thank you!✌️😎🍀
I’m 80 and hurting a lot more than I have during most of my life. When I broke my shoulder badly some years ago I had after a few weeks of recovery on pain killers that allowed me to rest deeply. The drug stopped working one night and the pain was bad enough so that sleep was out of the question. But I noticed something peculiar. The pain was really bad, but I simultaneously was experiencing heartfelt gratitude that I had not passed my entire life experiencing such pain. I understood this experience in terms of the Buddha’s teaching about the two darts of pain. The first dart is the physical pain that is an inevitable part of life and is not optional. The second dart is the suffering that can go with pain, but it is optional. So I accept my current condition as part of life and your dancing through the pain is a helpful way to live with it. Thank you.😅
I love the fact that you are utilizing your intellect and eloquence to verbalize your experiences living w/ a debilitating chronic illness. Much support and love and identification from the USA 🇺🇸, brother.
While I don't have ME I do have a condition that is diagnosed only by exclusion, as like ME, there is no definitive "test" for it. My rheumatologist's "best guess" is it is palindromic rheumatism. Episodes of joint pain, autoimmune in origin. Mine is not typical, one episode rolling into the next, so it's constant rather than spasmodic flairs, and differs only by location and intensity.
I like how you call it dancing, because that is exactly how it is. 35 years of it has taught me to treat it as background noise. It's always there but you don't consciously think about it unless or until it increases in intensity and you have to find another way of doing something, or do something else entirely that doesn't involve movements that are particularly painful that day.
My philosophy is that you can choose to be a victim and waste your life giving into it, or you can choose to be a survivor and experience the many other positive things life has to offer.
Thank you Vlad. Little different for me. First I am in my 88th year. Everyone says you can expect illness and pain in old age, its normal. I say it is still pain. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis which is attacking and destroying my joints. It has already attacked my lungs and several other parts that people don’t realise are part of the disease. Like you, none of this shows as I stand in front of anyone except if they see my twisted fingers and hands. But what I am trying to get at is that I have never been used to not being able to walk, eat properly, look after myself. I was a physical training instructor and played sports all my life. Now I am trying to find ways to cope, not to give in to depression, another thing I have never known. I have to escape mentally. I have done this with my iPad and the internet. Finding people like you to listen to and other thinkers. I follow our UK and world politics. I got into Chinese dance and drama which set me of studying their history. I am a history buff. While I am lost and doing these things pain seems to be less. Except If I try to type something long like this, I can’t dictate as my husband is around all the time looking after me. He is not interested in the same things.
I have a friend with ME who is as bad as you. I think it is so good that you allow people to know how you feel. I am going to recommend you videos to her. It may help her but who knows, it may only reinforce her pain to hear of somebodies else’s. I don't know, I try to learn as much as I can about my problem and sometimes find solutions. I live in Devon UK. Thanks again. Very interested in Russia and Ukraine at this time.
I have ME and I'm grateful I just discovered Vlad. His comment sections are really helpful too because of people like you. Thank you.
Thank you both for your comments. It is so comforting and helpful to see that I'm not alone in dealing with these types of challenges and that others have insights on how to deal with these things life throws at us.
Vlad is awesome for all he does, as well as inspiring a community such as this.
Take care fellow travelers and dancers! ✌️😎🍀
I have chronic struggles with mental health and the phrase "you dance with ____" has been a profound lesson for me.
I am living through chronic pain as well. I have a disease that has damaged nerve endings throughout my entire body and as a result, I am living with pain that keeps me grounded pretty much most of my life. It is horrible, it is intense, and it has taken over my life. I have extremely high inner drive that, in the past, has pushed me to do some pretty extreme things in my life, such as running ultra marathons. I'm sure most can relate to how hard it can be to wake up at 4:30am on a very cold and dark morning, sometimes with sleet or snow mixed in as well. I did this every morning just run a quick 15 mile run before work. Anyway, that drive pushed me through the first 8 or so years of my condition but unfortunately, that drive is slowly starting to wear off. I spend most of every day sitting in a recliner chair in my bedroom and watching a ton of UA-cam videos. There is a plus side, I was given 3 years to live with pretty much a zero percent chance of surviving, and that was 8 yes ago.
I do agree with you that it is now a part of who we are and just like everything else that becomes a part of our life, we have to live with it, there is no other option and we must accept it.
What's the name of your illness if I may ask? I didn't push myself as hard as you but I feel like what you're describing.
"Do the next thing" - don't think of everything you want to do. Do what you are doing now. When you are done, then just do the next thing you want to do.
I find it's less overwhelming to not think about things you may or may not get done. Live in the moment 😊💜
40 years of pain and I am still here. I have learnt that you have to accept it and control it. Box it up and say to your self this too will pass. What I admire about you is that your intellect has not been damaged.
Absolutely spot on. One of the best things that I’ve done to deal with this awful disease was to learn about pain management. You describe the process so well. I apply the principles of pain management to all of my symptoms, not just the pain. It helps to remove the anxiety, depression and “fight or flight” feeling, all of which are normal responses to pain, exhaustion, dizziness, nausea, etc, etc, and allows me to accept the symptoms without allowing them to own me. I still feel those symptoms, they’ll always be there, but I can detach from them to some degree. Thank you for your talks about ME, they always help.
It's important to talk about this and you do it very eloquently.
I have a nerve condition that makes it incredibly painful to talk, eat or drink. Fortunately it is manageable with medication but those have side effects that, frankly, make me feel like my brain dies not work.
I appreciate you uploading this video. It's so easy to get down and wonder "why". But that leads no where.
I will definitely incorporate that this pain is simply part of my life into my thoughts when I get frustrated.
Pain is exhausting. It demands your attention. Best wishes Vlad.
The deep and profound realisation that I am not this body, I am not this mind with it's thoughts and emotions is truly liberating. That doesn't mean that all these things are not experienced but that psychological suffering no longer takes hold in the same way. Essentially, there is no one here to suffer, as Vlad alludes to, this is simply what's happening right now and I neither want nor don't want any of it, it is irrelevant because I know who I really am.
Same here Vlad. I've been to some dark rooms of hell with m.e.
Where you can't move, stand up, barely talk...all of it.
I'm traumatised by those times.
No one understands. I can't relate it to anyone
I find this the hardest thing to deal with. Being so alone and sometimes feeling close to death.
I've posted a few times on your pages.
I like your intelligence.
The dance thing I get.
I've done. Lot if breath work and meditation to work with the suffering.
A lot of resistance is the suffering.
But sometimes, as you know, it's n I describable chamber of helplessness, pain and fea.
Congratulations on keeping posting.
I'm trying to finish an album of music..it's become a running joke, people think im procrastinating.
Such ignorance.
I have to steal moment s as nd when I can
My life is not normal, or what I want
My self esteem ha been rocked to the core. Who am I? What is me? What is the illness? What can I expect for the future and how can I relate to other people.
Sometimes, I can't believe this has happened to me. I feel cursed and somehow pathetic.
But positively, there is a cleansing in being this ill. It removes hubris, helps you see life clearly ( when the brain fog lifts) helps you develop your soul and shadow self
It's been a shock to me how the world I thought was solid, the world of science and medicine specifically, is one of the most corrupt poisonous and cruel " industries" out there.
I have no illusions and now I can't trust anything said in any power structure.
I'm interested in how you see this was and power structures in general since having m.e.
And just people in general.
You just see how grasping , fearfulmand controlled people are.
Any thoughts?
Ive lived w extreme pain near 16years myself. it was a moment during temporary relief & recovery that i had FULL realization of what i live with daily. Tough stuff❤
I suffer from severe PAD and neuropathy in my feet and legs. The pain at times is excruciating. It’s like a “blooming pain” is my feet or lower legs are even brushed against by clothing or a strong breeze! Starts off as a slight tingling and slowly BLOOMS into the most excruciatingly sensation of fire and needles piercing every nanometer of your skin and muscles…. It’s hard to focus and breathe through the pain sometimes. I use deep breathing and transcendental meditation as coping mechanisms. The drugs don’t do anything really except cloud my head and make it harder to focus on breathing and clearing my mind.
Yeah. This is real. This short clip in its way is one of the realest things I’ve ever seen of yours. Pain is the realest thing there is. It’s the only experience that reliably turns knowledge into understanding. If it doesn’t embitter us of course. This is your most inspiring quality Vlad. Your heroic work. Forgive me for saying this but it leaves your Ukraine work for dead, spiritually speaking
Thank you so much and I think we agree on how to understand pain!
The way you have to walk has changed. You got to walk a different way. You keep walking. You inspire me.
It’s amazing you can create so much positivity in these videos ❤
I agree with you completely. The pain is part of life, and one has great moments , when one is so intellectually engaged, one forgets about the pain while this is happening. Alas, I cannot induce this ignoring of the reality of the situation , at will. Stay strong, as the pain is like a companion, and has hopefully made us much more accepting of reality, than fighting it. Live for the moment. Thank you, as I find your posts very interesting and have recommended you to others who think.
Very inspiring! I have been suffering from a kind of "non-localized headache" for seven years. This was from a brain stroke with some later complications, but I feel fine today. the only reason I feel this way, is the same kind of training and willful attitude that you talk about in your video. Mindfulness and acceptance (without giving in) of what you can't change is the key to be present in your own life and that of your family and friends. Illness be damned! Live your life to the fullest extent possible to you I say, and simply enjoy the one magnificent gift we have been granted in eternity: a single life.
Bless you, my friend, and hang in there for all of those little, important things, and remember: A stream feeds into a river, and a river feeds into an all encompassing ocean - the entirety that is our time in this place.
You're a bit of a life changer mate, in the sense that your views contribute to restructured thinking. The fact that it's hard for you to find the literal energy sometimes puts my struggles with depression and energy in to some degree of perspective. Well done, however I appreciate we are catching you at your good moments. I hope you have people there for the bad ones, too. I for one would not have the drive to do what you do.
I'm going through a rough patch, but nowhere near what you are, Vlad. Thanks for this video and the inspiration you provide everyone.
Yeah, you know you're life isn't so bad after all after listening to videos like this and realising that some people have a great deal more to cope with and seem to manage.
Vlad, oh how I felt your emotions as I also have had ME for 18 years. Your words brought tears of knowing and a smile of acceptance…I think! My dancing is most often a sign of rebellion against my body. I rejoice in the moments of intended freedom despite the crumbling of my body that occurs afterward. As long as I fight back, I live.
Your heart and mind are gifts to us all. Thank you. Diane
You are inspiring! I have CML and have to take chemo daily. I just got a knee replaced, but I am OUT of the wheelchair! I pray in silence daily, (today for 2 hours, I guess...) and do the One Day (hour, minute, second...) at a Time, too. To suffer IS to live. It is what we do with the suffering that defines us more than anything else. God Bless You!
Vlad is amazing person
Vlad, i got here via your Ukraine analysis videos. Although I’m not in any pain that’s unusual for my age and physical condition, my wife has suffered some bad things. 1, 2 and 3 sound like practical, achievable approaches. I’ve passed the link to her.
I loved this so much. Dancing with it all, as life- « and in some dances you can get torn to shreds. » I understand what you are expressing. ❤️
I too received great benefit from this wisdom/perspective. I am physically well but adverse childhood experiences have left me with a subtle yet devastating and pervasive feeling of there being something wrong with me. I’ve wasted decades trying to figure it out. My world got smaller and smaller as I couldn’t - it’s not a problem to solve but rather a condition to be managed.
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Like any reading this I didn’t choose this for my life experience. It’s just the way my life is working out. I wasted too much time avoiding life because it’s always emotionally painful. It’s helpful for me to adopt the mindset of living with chronic physical pain: just accepting that engaging with life, with people will constantly set off alarms, will constantly trigger deep shame, that my emotional regulation feels constantly at risk.
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But this is my life. Those feelings and triggers are what they are: constant companions I need to accept and to dance with.
@@CorePathway I hear ya.
@@CorePathway Thank you for sharing that. I share that experience, too, but couldn't describe how I was processing things. You described it in a way that fits. I understand pain, as I have some conditions that have been with me. So I was processing those experiences in the same way.
I always appreciate wisdom that gives me insight into myself or others. Thank you. 🍀
Did not know you are in pain 😔 I hope it will end soon. Be well.
Thanks for giving me language to explain what I have been doing for 60 years since a car accident at 19. Although I am convinced that what I experience is considerably milder than that experienced by a close friend with MS and with someone who has the condition you do, the metaphor of dance is spot on!
God bless you Vlad and admire your strength and determination to help others that might be through pain. Thanks for sharing very intimate thoughts with your viewers while transmitting hope and serenity.
I have pain causing ailments that come with aging. The idea of " dancing through" is new to me, and inspiring! The saying that man makes plans and God laughs has been too true. Thank you for the inspiration!
I wish I were this strong, I can't think anything except Make it STOP!
Those last few lines were poetic. Keep dancing Vlad!
"chronic fatigue syndrome" does not seem to accurately describe the perils the disease actually entails. sheesh. my mom is dealing with something similar after covid, but it is not affecting her as severely as what you described here, and I'm glad.
God bless you Vlad! I’ve been struggling with Panic disorder so I can only imagine what you go through on a daily basis! I pray God’s strength for you and peace and healing.
To some extent I’ve learnt to dance as well, Vlad. I used to consider my condition “the enemy”, but it’s not. It’s part of me.
Thanks for this beautiful video. Sometimes I forget to dance, and those are the bad days. You’re inspiring me to dance, even though it might tear me to shreds.
Thank you Vlad... you have harnessed at least one possible benefit from this bane of your health and that is wise and useful advice, well elucidated, to help us who are not as well-travelled as you in the mindset required to live with pain.
In short, you have used your pain to reduce to sum total pain in the world. Thank you mate.
This is a nice little video I'm sure many people will appreciate. I liked how you said it becomes part of your life, eventhough we didn't want that. It's so true. For me personally I delved deep into spiritual philosophy, which I might never have done otherwise. It's kind of been a blessing for me and still living with the pain of course , it's just part and parcel of my life here and now.
I suffer from pain too, I can block it out in the day but night is a problem , I need to keep thinking or things and doing things , even something simple like stoking the cat helps !
We are with you Vlad... empathy,care & admiration - Rozana & Carl 🦘🇦🇺
Reminds me of a book I read years ago with a ballerina in it. Lord of the Dance.
I viewed this video 9 months ago.
So funny... I'm laughing at myself... I was about to comment to my own comment from 9 months ago and say, "I read Lord of the Dance also.".... Until I saw my name.
Vlad - I think your sharing your journey living with ME is invaluable particularly for anyone living with chronic pain. As you well know chronic pain can be profoundly isolating and your efforts provide others with community. Thank you.
If you have not discovered her already, you might check out the work of Rachel Zoffness, M.S., PHD with the University of California-San Francisco School of Medicine. She writes on the biopsychosocial nature of pain and by understanding its nature one can work to improve management of it. Your approach seems to be in harmony with her work and efforts in this area.
Thank you Vlad. I was feeling poorly during the summer. I did manage to refurbish an old dresser that I started in July and finished in October. It took me over 3 months and I’m so damn proud of myself. 😊 I’ve been better for the past week or so, thanking a break with medication 💊 I guess. Please take care of yourself. It’s always wonderful to see you when you are ready. I don’t demand anything more from you than that dear, and I think your community has the same expectation. Stay well and take care of Vlad. 🙌🏼💙
Thanks dear Vlad 💛 I absolutely agree. I deal with the pain and do active breath work through it in order to calm my stress, irritability and anxiety. I found my biggest challenge, 11 some years ago was the immense depression I went through dealing with the loss of my career and what I went to university for. It took a couple of difficult and painful years to push through because my mom died of a heart attack at a young age right at the beginning of my professional ending. I get through it all better emotionally for the most part but I have discovered since then that grieving the loss of my old life is certainly not linear. It is circular. Each time gets easier a bit. Much love to you for uploading so many videos to each of your channels. I truly look up to your motivation and information you supply to all of us. We are your family.
And I, look up to your comments. All the best to you!
Look, I am glad you aren’t ready to Push the ejection method yet. I am there. I have severe RA and a horrible spine. I just had my 5th spinal fusion a month ago. My surgeon prescribed lortabs for one week after surgery. The USA has been in an “opioid epidemic” for years. I haven’t taken pain medication for at least 6 years but can tell you I can no longer cope. When I am finished clearing out what I believe my son won’t want or need, I will be gone. On my terms and it’s in the immediate future. I know how and where I will do it. There is no longer compassion for those of us in 24 hour pain, in the USA at least it is looked down on to be in pain, so you hide it, smile and carry on. I’m done with it though. Hope to someday meet you on the other side.
Attitude is everything. Do what you love. It's healing. Love you, vlad
Thank you for this video, Vlad
Pleasure.
Hi Vlad, this is a really touching, if brief, conversation, I got a lot from it. I'd love to hear more along these lines in the future.
Congratulations on the channels' success, your work is nuanced and considered and I'm heartened to see your number of subscribers and views rocketing up.
You're stronger than you know. Much love
Great! There are many who would appreciate hearing this. I did.
TBI ABI myself , head pressure, pain and discomfort is a result of any sudden movement or physical actions as well as stressful emotional situations.
How we deal with these ailments, makes a lot of difference to our quality of life 😊
Yup, life is pain and vice versa. When I’m in pain, I know I’m there. Mindfulness is the key.
Yep.This describes my coping mechanisms very well. It all springs out of knowing that we only live once, and have to make the best of it.
Mindfulness practice for me is the most beneficial practice. Encompasses much of what Vlad said.
That was one of the best explanation of thing I've heard.
One of the most difficult than it is explaining to people.
When they say just get up into something. If they can't see it
We just don't understand. They think I'm going to keep this
from my phone. 14ys of pain.Thank you
God bless you, dear Vlad
My heart goes out to you, Vlad. I have pain too, and these points that you make are so true, if we can just remember!
So familiar. I feel for you. I appreciate you. I wish I could take the weight from you.
I have such deep respect for you. It's not often someone makes me reflect on life and filosofy the way you do. Your way of expressing yourself just resonates with me.
My deepest respect, from sweden.
I have fibromyalgia and CFS so my heart goes out to you ❤
I'm so grateful you posted this. You did a much better job expressing what it's like to live with chronic pain (or any other chronic disorder) than I've been able to come up with. I live with pretty disabling nerve pain that affects a lot of areas of my life. It's been 5 years, but I've only recently started to emerge from the self-hatred, moralizing and "why-me"ing over it. This video came at a good time. I appreciate your insights. Thank you.
Both video and comment section are beautiful and inspiring. Godspeed to you all!
So profound. Beautiful
When I was at my worst my son was 5 years old. This was difficult and did help a lot at the same time. The second part is true, because I could always be sure my family would care for him when I could not.
Building a network is very important.
Roger this, completely understand. Lifetime sufferer as well. I understand your rationalization totally.
It sounds so familiar. I've been dealing with sarcoïdosis for over 7 years now. It mainly affects my joint, tendons and muscles, though my saliva glands can get inflamed, which is also painful. If I'm lucky, they keep doing their jobs. They don't always.
Sometimes the disease goes in remission for a while and there's still a chance it'll do so completely. In the form in which I have it, the symptoms can last for years even while in remission and so for the past 7 years, I've been painfree for maybe 2 months. Far worse than the pain for me, is the fatigue. I don't remember what it's like to feel fit.
All my life I've dealt with anxiety and fear. My oldest memories are of being afraid (of my father). I struggled with that for most of my life, and I've become accustomed to living with a certain level of discomfort. Pain was just another factor in that discomfort.
I've learned to accept them as a part of life, a part of me and I use breathing techniques to breathe my way through it, be it the fysical pain, anxiety or some other emotional distress (my Mum has dementia). I can just let it be, whatever it is sort of sits there and I am aware of it, but it does not rule and it does not ruin my day.
Take care, much love.
Good job keeping your spirits up. You're inspirational to me.
@@websurfer5772 Thank you.
Pain, whether emotional or physical can teach us so much if we allow this..acceptance of the pain can be meditative if we accept it as our bodies talking to us, and asking us to love ourselves no matter what, that we are not our pain. Pain can sometimes decrease if we can ask ourselves what we are learning from the pain and follow that inner guidance for advice. Sometimes pain is present and nothing helps as it is organic pain, and this too can teach us to be stronger and teach us acceptance of having no control over the uncontrollable. Pain can be a gift in disguise if we study it with curiousity.
And yes, I am also one who has had several experiences of pain, both "small" and "excruciating". Pain can challenge the very foundations of our lives, there are "good days" and "bad days" that ebb and flow..
💞🙏Vlad for sharing this video. When we share our experiences lovingly and kindly with others it validates and gives support to others who may not have this otherwise.
Take care everyone 🕊️
I can’t imagine what your daily life is like. It makes me thankful and grateful for my health.
Such wise and infinitely graceful words. Thank you! ❤️
Yes, in some dances, you can get torn to shreds... Wish you the best Vlad!
Thanks for your comments, Vlad. Personally, part of my mind focussing on creating, or planning to create, acts as an ally against the pain, and I no longer see it as an enemy, and I also try not to dwell on where the pain is located at any one time. I do hope you swing into a better cycle very soon so that you can continue to give to others.
My handling of pain (mainly emotional, but a few times also physical) is to just "let it be". Pain as such is not a problem, more like a sort of noise, but obviously the cause of the pain could be a problem. If I'm able to do something about that, great, but if not, letting the pain "fill up" my mind would only make it worse. It helps to understand why the pain is there, and then it just becomes a circumstance in my life. While I may not want it, there are also many other things which are not what I'd ideally want, and things I cannot change are not where my mind should spend much time.
Thank you Vlad your stoicism and the analogies you use are inspirational. You bring great light into the world. I shall keep praying that you get more relief and more opportunity to do the things you love. Stephen
Hi Vlad, I’m coming late but it is right now when I realised that what you’re suffering from is the same condition my mother suffers from. I know too well how it develops and there’s no day I wish there was a cure for it. I have my mom lying on the sofa while I’m writing these lines, after a long day where she only managed to wash herself. I wish you a better prognosis than my mother’s and all the best. You’re a good man. You’re a good man.
I’m a very bad dancer. It’s even painful to watch me dance. But continuing to dance is of the utmost importance. Luvya, Vlad.
Very wise words vlad. I hope you are well
Love it ❤❤❤!
Facing and accepting reality as it is instead of pursuing an illusion that might never come, and then, beeing frustrated by it.
I admire you for your drive. I’ve lived with mine since May 31, 1989. It makes life not worth living. Maybe if I had a life then I could fight it. But I don’t. The only relief I get is when I am asleep. I wish for death so that I will finally be out of pain. I’m only given acetaminophen.
I admire your inner strength. Very best wishes
You are taking a very stoic approach.
Sometimes I can dance with pain, but sometimes the chair isn't close enough to stop dancing. I've been dealing with pain in both hips and legs for about 20 years now, but I still have to go outside and trim trees and bushes and drag it all away uphill. It does make the chair just that much more welcoming. Unfortunately where I live I could throw a can of green beans out in the yard and have a canned green bean tree in a year or so.
Environmental factors challenge our strengths and weaknesses as individuals. Innate forces push us toward self-reliance or defeat.
I have been in pain for 13 years now, so I really can relate.
Season changes are quite the, “dance”. I hope you’re feeling better very soon. It’s so hard to not let it consume me sometimes. Also those that say, “you look great.” Looking and feeling are quite different things. Few understand that.
I feel you. Can’t help my tears streaming down my cheeks.
Lots of love, Grace 💛
(probably should rename myself to “platonic Grace” don’t want/need miss understandings(
Dear Vlad. I follow your other channels and happened to stumble onto this. In your very special way you gave me a complete new insight and way of coping with my anxiety disorder. The last point about the dance is my morning mantra every morning since. Thank you, it helps!!!
Thanks for your offering, Vlad. I’m going through vision impairment with no clear prognosis. Your personal insight converges with how I am trying to cope. And I can still see, Al Hamdullilah !
Hugs to you. Those insights will help me. And I’m off to watch this again.
Bravo vlad. Dance on
Very wise words. All the best to you.
Good on you, Vlad! I was raised to make the very best of every situation (even the painful ones have a positive note to focus on). This does make the difference and I am elated for you to have found your dancing skills. ❤️
I really appreciate the video. I can't help but think about all the stupid shit people bitch and shine about as if they have it so bad and there are people like you living with chronic pain for 2 decades.
Thank you for the perspective you give.
Thank you for this video 💜I personally suffer from ankylosing Spondylitis, Fibro, osteoarthritis and a few other things. For me personally Im having trouble coping with the Emotional side of things. I honestly think I have PTSD to pain and suffering. Just when one recovers from one flair...... There always seems to be another in the horizon. Iv personally decided that when things get worse I will be looking into Dying With Dignity 💜Keep well everyone. Sending love from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦
The "Waltz with Vlad"
Hang in there, big boy.
Thank you Vlad. This is useful to keep in mind with my depression and anxiety.
I have been sharing this video with patients on a regular basis. Thank you very much!
Thank you Vlad, I admire the rational way you handle it.
Very helpful. My outlook on the chronic daily pain is often not good. On the bad days like today I yell out when the pain strikes hard. Yes, 'dancing with it' is a good way to cope with it. On those days I try avoid making a lot of pain if possible, and figuring out what i can do that day to still enjoy it. It means that planning much is really most likely a far-fetched idea.