When Worship Music Goes Wrong! Maverick City Music

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  • Опубліковано 6 січ 2025
  • Maverick City Music Group are a very popular Contemporary Christian music group. They are known for their many hit songs and with their recent collaboration with Elevation Church, Maverick City Music has reached new highs. But this success has come with a price. Maverick City Music has compromised their lyrics to appeal to a larger audience and it's putting them on the verge of collapse. In this video, I react to a recent performance by Maverick City Music at the BET Awards and it's not good.
    #MaverickcityMusic #KirkFranklin

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  • @71croutch
    @71croutch 2 роки тому +415

    Whether you're a gospel soloist or a gospel group, if you're gonna crossover, make sure that you carry the cross over.

  • @joshmccartney777
    @joshmccartney777 Рік тому +160

    “If you try to win the world by becoming like the world, the world will win you every time” - Keith Daniels

    • @richardchase4728
      @richardchase4728 Рік тому +4

      That's true, for its written love not the world neither the thing of the and if anyone love the world the love of the father is not in them

    • @MsBekahellen
      @MsBekahellen 3 місяці тому +1

      absolutely !! ' what profits a man if he gains the world but looses his soul'

    • @HyunBae1
      @HyunBae1 25 днів тому

      Yes

  • @jesusislord9707
    @jesusislord9707 2 роки тому +1469

    I use to hate gospel music before I got saved. When I first got saved, I must say that Maverick City's music had me on my knees crying worshipping God. But after a while I began to realize that their music and whom they were singing to started to change as they got more recognition, I noticed the compromise and stopped listening to them. Fame and fortune has definitely turned them to the world. I pray they turn back to the truth and leave such worldly things behind. They are trying to be friends with the world, Jesus sat with sinners but he never partook in the sin. Christian singers who sing with brazen secular artist only send the message that you can continue to do you and still be blessed by God, no need for repentance or turning from sin. This is how Satan merged paganism and Christianity, keep your idols and add a little bit of Jesus. God is more than enough, these things will all pass away.

    • @jazzylat1213
      @jazzylat1213 2 роки тому +8

      AMEN 🙏

    • @kevothegoat9891
      @kevothegoat9891 2 роки тому +26

      I’ll just say this if you want worship music from them just listen to their tribl nights albums gospel music and worship music are two different things

    • @ixchelstotts4452
      @ixchelstotts4452 2 роки тому +3

      Amen!

    • @godschosen414
      @godschosen414 2 роки тому +4

      Amen 🙏🏽

    • @livefree316
      @livefree316 2 роки тому +9

      THANK GOD you obeyed JESUS and have discernment!
      They sold out to please the world. For the money!
      They act ungodly and justify it or try to excuse it away!

  • @pablosantay6693
    @pablosantay6693 2 роки тому +18

    Once I saw Kirk collaborate with Maverick I saw it decline.

  • @solodiez
    @solodiez 2 роки тому +326

    We don't go into dark places to become darkness! Well said 🙌🏽

    • @ldutton6623
      @ldutton6623 2 роки тому +3

      Well said! I’m sorry for them. Fame is dangerous for too many

    • @whatsgoodzach
      @whatsgoodzach 2 роки тому

      But as humans that can happen!

    • @whatsgoodzach
      @whatsgoodzach 2 роки тому

      We got to have Grace

    • @joejohnson7074
      @joejohnson7074 Рік тому

      But what specifically did the worship team itself do that was wrong other than to show up at questionable worldly events? Were they trying to be a light in the darkness?

    • @xprtsniper
      @xprtsniper Рік тому

      @@whatsgoodzachnope not what the Bible says actually open it up and read it. You’re either hot or cold no in between or lukewarm or your portion will be in the lake of fire with hypocrites. Repent!

  • @tekmepikcha6830
    @tekmepikcha6830 2 роки тому +62

    I agree with most of what you have said except the Billy Porter explanation. When I was a sinner, gospel music did have a soul-searching effect on me, but it also gave me an occasion to worship and praise a God, that I was not fully surrendered to as yet - AND this is what pulled me closer. Singing and clapping to Gospel music doesn't necessarily mean he was comfortable in sin while praising God. Let's not be too presumptuous in our assumptions. Again, I agree with a lot points in this video 🙂

    • @LuvinmyAdonai
      @LuvinmyAdonai Рік тому +7

      The Lord may very well have been dealing with his heart with the gospel and power of Holy Spirit.

    • @JUKEBOX09
      @JUKEBOX09 11 місяців тому

      You don’t have to be presumptuous when they just put it in your face. Doesn’t matter how you spin it. That man is in sin. Dressed like a woman. Standing up with no conviction. And we know there was no conviction bc you still see him out here dressed like a woman. You’re either hot or cold. No in between.

    • @godzmic9741
      @godzmic9741 5 місяців тому +3

      I completely agree with you. A Hallelujah has no reservations; even demons have to fall and worship

    • @BURRiah
      @BURRiah 5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for making this comment. I agree 100% and couldn’t have said it better. Martha Munizzi was my light through rebellion. Every now and then I craved her music and Jesus… the audience’s reaction doesn’t define the purpose of the music.

    • @robertblackmon1
      @robertblackmon1 5 місяців тому +1

      "when I was a sinner?"... 🤔

  • @zmcfadgen
    @zmcfadgen 2 роки тому +104

    I love how gentle, fair and biblical you were in this video. I could feel the motivation of love behind it.

    • @sol_4real
      @sol_4real Рік тому

      Love? He was judgmental, he had no idea what biggies last moments where, for all we know he could have given his life to church, even him as a person, is he trying to say every single sinner who listens to him, gives their life to christ ?

  • @rachelsnipes6095
    @rachelsnipes6095 2 роки тому +221

    As a praise and worship leader, I'm challenged with the responsibility of choosing music that brings glory to God, and minister to the hearts of the people! I can't stress enough how difficult it is to find good music that honors the Lord. This is a great video! We are held to a higher standard when it comes to ministry on any level 💯

    • @olivegren6174
      @olivegren6174 2 роки тому +9

      A church is defined by the worship leader. what type of songs and how it is done. This is an immense responsability. As a christian, I have experienced times when I could not sing aven ONE song during the entire service ! before I was a dancer and choreographer, but now I long for Hymns without "noise" (loud and secular style of music). It is the Spirit of God that's make all the difference. Having consecrated worship leaders is a must. I wish you to always be under God's influence for your own sake and the sake of the church where you minister. God bless you.

    • @truthandbeautyco
      @truthandbeautyco 2 роки тому +9

      It’s hard to find good music because the lord could be asking you to write good music.

    • @KristojayPaul
      @KristojayPaul 2 роки тому

      I will invite you to check out my music - solid and Biblical 🙂👍🏼

    • @thomasbryantjr7638
      @thomasbryantjr7638 2 роки тому +1

      Good evening god bless you i know it's not easy u be and continue to be a blessing am a pastor now I was over the music 🎼 at my old church I understand especially now day's God bless

    • @OsceolaNola7
      @OsceolaNola7 Рік тому +1

      Music is a tool of the devil that’s why it’s hard. We only need frequencies to connect with the lord

  • @livingforhim1005
    @livingforhim1005 2 роки тому +67

    When I first listened to Maverick City music, I loved them! At the beginning it was so Spirit filled and deep, convicting, where you'd want to get it right with the Lord then and there. The more they progress it's just catchy music with a message, but it doesn't hold that same weight as their old music held. I'm never to say where anyone is in there journey with Christ, but back then you could feel the surrender. I pray that God keeps them and they follow Him on the right path. 🙏🏾

    • @ighookpomo7118
      @ighookpomo7118 Рік тому +1

      Amen in the holy name of Jesus Christ The Lord!

    • @Nordiaaa
      @Nordiaaa Рік тому +4

      Before I landed here, the song “most beautiful” by MC was in my spirit. I went into real worship and wow. I couldn’t help but wonder how they went from that to this. How did they leave from dwelling in the se Rey place to literally pull songs from heaven, to what they’ve become today. It’s really heartbreaking to me.

    • @livingforhim1005
      @livingforhim1005 Рік тому

      @@Nordiaaa So true!!

    • @niecyh2313
      @niecyh2313 Рік тому

      How do you know it was the Holy Spirit? Many of these gospel artists and leaders are free masons. Never walked with God! Deceiving the masses! Music conjures up the emotions.

    • @richardchase4728
      @richardchase4728 Рік тому +4

      They really need to seek God face and not after they own.

  • @olapeju892
    @olapeju892 2 роки тому +25

    Thank God for His Holy Spirit!! I too used to play their songs ALL THE TIME, until about mid-2021; it just didn’t connect anymore. Recently, about 2 months ago, I tried again and it just felt like I was forcing it; it was empty; no connection whatsoever with my spirit, and I was like, “Nope! No more! That’s it!” I am grateful for God’s Spirit of discernment and I truly pray they are convicted of sin, and of their error, and convinced of righteousness, in Jesus name, Amen! As the Bible says, “Examine yourselves to make sure you are still in the faith…” 2 Corinthians 13:5. Thank you for sharing this in love and humility-God bless you!

  • @albertamoore6993
    @albertamoore6993 2 роки тому +4

    How long have many of us been so deep in our sin that it took more then just gospel music, and praying to pull us out? It took a lot for for me. I could go sit in church and because the hold the enemy had on me was so strong it blinded me. It's so sad to see people of God publicly talking about other people of God. It is our responsibility as Children of God's kingdom to pray for each other, not point out what we feel are flaws. Pray and let God be God. All this is doing is validating what non-believers already think. By you calling them out how are you separated from everyone else. We are suppose to become ONE church but yet we choose to allow the enemy to keep us divided. I pray that everyone eyes would be completely opened, and that you don't take offense but is able to receive it and continue to pray for our brothers and sisters. God bless!!!

  • @toolegittoquit_001
    @toolegittoquit_001 2 роки тому +467

    The decline was a given. Bad company ruins good morals. Thanks for doing this. It's never easy to call out false teachers

    • @tyeishaleisure
      @tyeishaleisure 2 роки тому +14

      Amen. Most artists are extremely careful about who they collaborate with, but what I’ve noticed with Maverick city music is that they work with anyone and everyone even if the people they choose to work with have bad fruit.

    • @ItsWorkingTogetherForMyGood
      @ItsWorkingTogetherForMyGood 2 роки тому +1

      Unless one is spirit filled.

    • @louisemitipelo5345
      @louisemitipelo5345 2 роки тому +3

      Not all. If we keep pulling people down instead of Praying for Revelation and Revival... Who are We... Really. You cannot darken an Already dark place! We are the light. Where do We get That light from? Encourage. Pray. Have Faith. Believe!!!

    • @lajames5388
      @lajames5388 2 роки тому +3

      @@louisemitipelo5345 Preach!! I was once in a dark place and thanks be to God that Christ light and love was shown on me by people who helped me find my way back. They didn’t judge me they didn’t shun me. They reminded me I was His child and He loved me sins in all. I asked for forgiveness and proclaimed him as my Lord and savior!

    • @louisemitipelo5345
      @louisemitipelo5345 2 роки тому +3

      @@lajames5388 You Go LA James. Someone thought Lauren Daigle was going against the church being nominated for awards... Why? She came to a festival in Aotearoa, New Zealand... FestivalOne... 3 day Christian Event. She is Awesome. Her heart for God is... Beautiful... One thing I Know... Is that Holy Spirit can not lighten a dark place, unless Someone Invites him in... Maverick City Do this. They are all individual artists, who have come together, to Worhip, and give Thanks and Praise... To a Almighty God!!! Keep Running Maverick City. People knocking Elevation Worship, but they also, are individuals... People Forget... Ministry is Overflow, from Blessings... From Our Father in HEAVEN!!! with Love xo

  • @hoopercorner7217
    @hoopercorner7217 2 роки тому +193

    Brings tears to my eyes. We have to be stable,firm,and sold out for God

    • @k.trans4mation
      @k.trans4mation 2 роки тому +1

      It is sad that they couldn't recognize the snare of the enemy. That's why it is so important to always keep yourself prostate before God and allow the Holy Spirit to lead and guide you as well as convict you when you begin to drift away from God. Because of the lust of eyes, lust of the flesh and pride of life you will be expose and hopefully you give your heart back to Christ. I will be praying for them it is not to late to repent and turn back to God.

    • @The37s
      @The37s 2 роки тому

      tears to your eyes? really? all the things happening in the world, and this brings tears to your eyes. incredible. you must be a bucket of tears everywhere you go

    • @sabineafrica995
      @sabineafrica995 2 роки тому

      The suspended Bowe, they should suspe nd themselves too, they too are collaborated with non Christians

    • @CandaceOekawa
      @CandaceOekawa Рік тому

      As the word says rooted and grounded

  • @Aiii_me6682
    @Aiii_me6682 2 роки тому +8

    It's such a relief to know that there still God's people who are not afraid to come out in honesty and just point out the error without fear of being discriminated

  • @justambi5126
    @justambi5126 2 роки тому +51

    It makes me so happy to see so many of us using discernment. I did not pay attention to the Steven Furtick collaboration however I started paying closer attention to them and the moves that they were making after the announcement of the Kirk Franklin collaboration. It was downhill from there but this is a group of highly annoying to individuals and I pray they come out of this darkness that they are in. It’s sad how this has happened to so many powerful anointed Christian leaders. The lust of the eyes is a real thing. Lusting after the things of this world and being tempted to compromise. This music industry is something you can’t play with. You have to pick a side. With my 15-year-old prophesied to be a producer, I was initially frightened. I could see it in him since he was eight though. After the prophecy, for four hours that day at my apartment you could hear heavenly trumpets playing in his room. It was prophesied that he would hear prophetically etc. but also that he needed to be careful because the enemy was trying to wrap him up with certain people. It will be my daily prayer that Yahusha protects him and he can hear the voice of God and stand firm in all of these things I’ve been teaching him. I pray Maverick city can do the same

    • @ighookpomo7118
      @ighookpomo7118 Рік тому +4

      Amen in Jesus Christ holy name. Your son of yours will always make The Lord Jesus proud in the Almighty name of Jesus The Christ!

    • @farealwitit7947
      @farealwitit7947 Рік тому +1

      i come into agreement with you in the name above all names, lord jesus christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @tabposey
      @tabposey 5 місяців тому

      That’s when I notice their change. After they connected with Kirk,and became more well known and people outside of gospel started noticing them and asking them to sing here and there, that’s when their heads started to turn. I noticed that some of the ones that use to be in around the group was no longer there I knew something has happened within the group. Those out front, have felled in love with the fame snd are loving it! The industry got them right were they want them. Loving the attention, the fame, notoriety. It’s not even about the money for them, it’s the fame more so. And they loving every second of it! That’s when they became lost! That’s when the change happened. I never saw the one with Faith Evens, but the Will Smith, was too much! Singing around the pits of hell was not right at all. That was one invitation they should have never accepted. They needed to learn that all invites are not to be accepted! Regardless of who the invite is from! Not all good, or good for them, or have their best intentions. This is what Kirk should have been teaching them. Since they look at Kirk as a mentor. But Kirk shouldn’t have been there either! So he is not the one to give them that best advice. And I wonder sometimes , if when Kirk felled and hit his head and almost lost his life, if it was than that the switch took place for him, to just let loose all his inhibitions?? It just seems a lot changed in him after that! More let loose and live type of thing, even his facial structure, hairline, just his overall appearance changed!! Just think about that! Look it that !! Not even judging him, cause with a head injury things can change in a person. He was totally out, his future was unknown. They had him under for a long time, so his brain and head could heal. What other changes could have been taking place inside, with the devil knowing he has things he wrestles with, and he trying to walk with God in this industry ! There just could have been a war being fought while he was lying there healing from his fall.
      Now back them MC, maybe once this new found fame wears off, they may find themselves waking up and realizing just who they are letting down, and who they have allowed to takeover their lives. Time will tell. Sooner than later!

  • @lisajones7779
    @lisajones7779 2 роки тому +37

    I loved Maverick City when they first started. I felt like they were genuine in their worship. I had not heard about them being on the BET awards and singing. This video is very eye-opening and it breaks my heart because the Bible says that a double-minded man is unstable in all of his ways. I pray that they get their eyes off of fame and back to true worship.

    • @femarie4449
      @femarie4449 Рік тому +1

      That’s double minded to you?

  • @toluwaniegbeyemi7339
    @toluwaniegbeyemi7339 2 роки тому +305

    I thought I was the only one that felt this way. They're not just the same anymore, anyone with the spirit of God can feel it when they listen to their new albums. God bless you sir 🙏

    • @AA-hj8er
      @AA-hj8er 2 роки тому +16

      Exactly. The sad part is most people don't see anything wrong with it. If Beyonce asked them to do a collab they wouldn't think twice about it.

    • @RobinHoodTr3yTV1
      @RobinHoodTr3yTV1 2 роки тому +2

      I just think y’all judging don’t get me wrong he made points but dude isn’t filled with the spirit but hate and judging I bet if you take him to a spiritual church he can’t stand , just cause you can’t feel the spirit of God through the music or connection doesn’t mean bash that young group, I don’t see y’all bashing Tasha Cobbs or others y’all soo called Christian’s get on my nerves

    • @frederickweeks4962
      @frederickweeks4962 2 роки тому +1

      @@RobinHoodTr3yTV1 WHAT are you talking about.

    • @RobinHoodTr3yTV1
      @RobinHoodTr3yTV1 2 роки тому

      @@frederickweeks4962 read the word before come judging another soul , your a hypocrite Christian or whatever you are

    • @frederickweeks4962
      @frederickweeks4962 2 роки тому +2

      @@RobinHoodTr3yTV1you don't have a point or argument. Nice opinion though.

  • @stephaniegreer3762
    @stephaniegreer3762 2 роки тому +300

    Exactly we don’t go into darkness to BECOME darkness👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾we should ALWAYS BE LIGHT!!!

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому +5

      Amen!

    • @andykas4138
      @andykas4138 2 роки тому +3

      And the salt

    • @ldutton6623
      @ldutton6623 2 роки тому

      Right! We’ve become tainted instead of the other way around.

    • @iamthepossible
      @iamthepossible 2 роки тому

      Why such a narrow view of what “being the light means”?

    • @dreyb1801
      @dreyb1801 2 роки тому

      @@iamthepossible How do you mean exactly? 🙄

  • @brittany3890
    @brittany3890 2 роки тому +31

    You are doing God's work my brother. Thank you for opening the eyes of so many people who would not otherwise see how they are being deceived. May God protect and keep you now and forever. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @k3ystrum_751
    @k3ystrum_751 Рік тому +5

    Whoever is without sin may cast the first stone. Conviction does not always take effect instantly but I believe that just inviting HIM does something in the atmosphere. Let’s keep our brothers, sisters in prayer and focus on God. ❤

  • @desidezmusic9239
    @desidezmusic9239 2 роки тому +52

    WIth all do respect, I think that it is ignorant to address that because Billy Porter was standing up singing and not in shame that Maverick City is out of bounds. Also, we hold too much esteem for people/ humans/ and young adults at that….Lets remember that as believers we are only righteous because he said we are. We have no Idea of the seeds that were sown from the song and I guess we still don't understand the power in receiving God's Love. The last thing that we should want people to do (Billy Porter) is hide and be of shame and no I am not knocking conviction but challenging the false idea of being delivered from that that which we hide and or suppress. what true deliverance comes from hiding? All this does is push people towards an accepted community. think about how gangs are formed. In that same video I saw two young men making a mockery out of deliverance as well , which the camera man totally shinned a light on and in my opinion was intentional. A gay Man and Mockers got cameos during the performance. I think it is a bigger picture, and here we come in our ignorance playing into it. I am starting to understand why certain people cant fish everywhere. Maverick City did a great job despite the mistakes they have possibly made in their camp. Keep singing y’all and seeking God.
    Ps. and I am a believer.... No middle, who truly desires that everyone encounters our Lord and Savior!

    • @kimikoraiko
      @kimikoraiko 2 роки тому +4

      Amen

    • @baileymariepoetry
      @baileymariepoetry 2 роки тому +9

      I was looking for a comment like this. Well said.

    • @desidezmusic9239
      @desidezmusic9239 2 роки тому +3

      @@baileymariepoetry yeah sis, we're all learning and growing. Maybe the intent was to be protective over the body, if you understand what I am saying. God bless❤️

    • @gloriawaritimi5286
      @gloriawaritimi5286 2 роки тому +4

      @@baileymariepoetry Same here! Same here. I was looking for this comment so badly.

    • @gloriawaritimi5286
      @gloriawaritimi5286 2 роки тому +2

      Thank you so much for saying this. God bless you. Amen

  • @cyrilsmithmusic
    @cyrilsmithmusic 2 роки тому +8

    The truth is that we Christians are always very much eager to criticize and condemn ourselves. Even if they are drifting away which I'm not sure, there's a better way to handle it via prayers and that's the only needful thing to do right here. I'm pretty sure it wasn't God that told you to say this. Righteousness is actually right standing with God, and God hasn't made anyone here his deputy to confirm he's no longer in right standing with the Mavericks, we'll just end up tearing the body apart cuz i already see plenty comments of people saying they will stop playing their songs. How does this profits us? Please let's learn to act with love and let's not forget we have a father in heaven who doesn't treat us looking at our sins, His love for us is way beyond our flaws and He always expect we run back to Him and do what's is needful of us that's why He'll never stop loving us. #unstopablelove

    • @ElizabethIningu
      @ElizabethIningu 5 місяців тому +2

      Hey light & darkness doesn't mix Revelation warns us of being LUKEWARM. One is either hot or cold. Jesus is not a commercial but THE SAVIOR SIMPLE

    • @pardonmysmallgarden
      @pardonmysmallgarden 2 місяці тому +1

      Biblically we are not to condemn others, we are to give compassion and grace however, when we are called to confront the sins of a fellow brother or sister in Christ out of our love and concern. His message was to warn fellow worship music lovers like myself to be mindful of the music we listen to even if it’s listed as “Gospel”.
      Luke 17:3
      “So watch yourselves. “If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them.”
      ‭‭
      Gal 6:1
      “Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted.”
      ‭‭
      I believe he was kind in speaking of this and I personally appreciate the knowledge. We will be held accountable, all of us so our actions do matter. Stay blessed.

  • @adonismiller571
    @adonismiller571 2 роки тому +319

    I love Maverick music. I however pick through their Playlist. Lately I don't feel the spirit in their music as before. I would still listen to their older music. I agree with everything you're saying. Even in my life I see this happening especially with friends who don't share the same belief. Sometimes I have to remind myself who I am. I hope we pray for everyone involved in this situation. God started a wonderful work in this group. Fame has corrupted them .

    • @AA-hj8er
      @AA-hj8er 2 роки тому +5

      Can you please provide me with some of their older spirit filled songs? I keep hearing everyone mention the same thing but I'm new to them so can't tell the new from the old.

    • @adonismiller571
      @adonismiller571 2 роки тому

      Will do

    • @elizabethyeboah1229
      @elizabethyeboah1229 2 роки тому +2

      Tribl album

    • @taiyeafolabi7914
      @taiyeafolabi7914 2 роки тому +1

      @@AA-hj8er God will work it out by maverick city. That's my best of their songs.

    • @benjaminjoseph3928
      @benjaminjoseph3928 2 роки тому +1

      @@AA-hj8er
      You have, My heart your home, You still holy, Joy of the Lord and so many

  • @naomilives414
    @naomilives414 2 місяці тому +1

    We have to stop expecting entertainers to be theologically sound or evangelistic. They are entertainers that happen to sing gospel genre.
    Many don’t really believe or are committed truly to Christ.

  • @David.124
    @David.124 Рік тому +1

    We’re supposed to be the salt of the earth. We can’t enter worldly places and become bland for them to like/tolerate us.

  • @choicegospelnetwork
    @choicegospelnetwork 2 роки тому +18

    Are you saying that Sinners MUST respond to the music a certain way to prove that they are convicted ?
    When a Seed goes into the earth, is there a reaction 🤔. ?

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому +3

      Christian/Gospel music should reflect the teachings of scripture and exalt the greatness of God. The music prepares/tills the “soil” for the planting of the seed. Soft/watered down Gospel music will not have much effect on the soil. A seed cannot be properly planted or take root in soil that hasn’t been tilled effectively.

    • @choicegospelnetwork
      @choicegospelnetwork 2 роки тому +4

      @@ByTheBookMinistries True my beloved brother, this comes from experience , Everyone can be used for the kingdom in different ways .
      Thats why one man plants ..
      The one planting is allowed to plant because the seed is not yet a tree .
      The music that's not directly talking about the Kingdom is still sowing something and posturing the heart slowly..
      Think about it..
      It's NOT a Christian or Gospel show and they were invited to sing..
      Why ?
      God can use the foolish things to confound them
      .

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому +5

      @@choicegospelnetwork Yes, I agree with that to an extent. I totally agree that some plant and some water but I am hard pressed to determine what role they played that night. They were paid handsomely to perform that night. It wasn’t a sacrifice to be there, it was beneficial for their careers. Furthermore, they performed with P Diddy and sang HIS song about Notorious BIG. That’s a slap in God’s face and a sign of weak faith.

    • @choicegospelnetwork
      @choicegospelnetwork 2 роки тому +3

      @@ByTheBookMinistries #1. The wealth of the Wicked is laid up for the just ..
      # 2. If they were singing among believers in a Church then scriptural songs will be relevant, However there are many songs that Doesn't say Jesus Christ that are positive upfull songs that helps promote morality.
      # 4. How can you be salt to something that you don't expose yourself to ?
      Blessings always my beloved brother, I am not against you, I don't know how long you've been saved but some understandings and Revelation comes at different levels or stages , If we're willing to reconsider some positions.

    • @tyeishaleisure
      @tyeishaleisure 2 роки тому +1

      @@choicegospelnetwork To your second point, scriptural songs should be sung even in secular places. Anything else is compromise. I follow Tauren Wells a Christian Artist who has been given opportunities to perform with Lionel Richie and he did not compromise. He sang the songs he wrote. He didn’t compromise in saying secular.

  • @GarryMooreMusic1
    @GarryMooreMusic1 2 роки тому +93

    I remember watching the BET AWARDS but I had to turn the channel because my spirit was sickened by the wicked and worldly atmosphere. Especially that clip you showed of the man dressed like a woman standing and clapping as if this was true worship. While watching this, I felt like God was nowhere in the vicinity of that place! "They that worship must worship in spirit and in truth!" There MUST be a standard of holiness (Without Compromise) amongst Gods people and the world needs to know it, and see it!!! The world desperately wants to mix the abomination of culture with the sacred. You actually saw the danger before it happened brother as we can see in recent news about Maverick City... Please, let's keep these Gospel and Christian artist in prayer!!! 🙏

    • @jackiedavidson4305
      @jackiedavidson4305 2 роки тому +4

      Then why were you watching it in the first place?

    • @keybladechosn1
      @keybladechosn1 2 роки тому +4

      Jesus would be at the BET Awards sitting right next to Billy Porter, because Jesus wasn't afraid of the world or of sinners. He sought them out, meanwhile the religious folks of his time were angered and disgusted because this man who calls himself the Christ eats with prostitutes and text collectors and not dignified members of the faith like themselves. They thought they didn't need a savior. But they did and so do you Garry. You aren't better than they are. You're not holier. You've falling short, I've falling short we all need Jesus. And it's people like YOU that need him the most because you think you're better and holier than they are when you're not.

    • @marissafelder4082
      @marissafelder4082 Рік тому

      Thank you! This is such a balanced and biblical response. This was the BET awards where all artists will show up. It’s error to attach Billy Porter to Maverick City. If the truth of how he really feels about them were known that clip couldn’t support this claim. We need to pray more for those Christian artists on the front lines lest we ourselves become like the Pharisees.

    • @BudandBloomWithBlossom
      @BudandBloomWithBlossom Рік тому +4

      @@keybladechosn1 Jesus would not have been up dancing on stage and entertaining and glorifying the life of sin. He didn't go to sinners' houses and dance and enjoy their festivities. He did the will of God the Father and ministered the Word of God.

    • @keybladechosn1
      @keybladechosn1 Рік тому

      ​@@BudandBloomWithBlossom Hey Blossom, notice how I never said Jesus would be "dancing on stage " in my comment. You just made that up. I said "sitting". Seriously Blossom, reading comprehension. He'd be sitting right next to Billy Porter just as he sat and dined with criminals, prostitutes and tax collectors. The lowest of the low in Jewish society back in his time. The Will of God was to SEEK AND SAVE THE LOST by ministry. Seriously, do you think Jesus just went to those people's homes just to eat? Hence why he went to those people. You may think you're so holy and above "sinners" but you're not. You're not special. You're sinner just like them and just like me. We all fall short of the glory of God. We all deserved to die on a cross because of our sin. But that's why Jesus came, because we're all in need of a savior. Hence why Jesus always approached these so called "sinners" with open arms and acceptance and why he constantly chastised the Holy Members of the Jewish faith. They thought they were better than the prostitutes and the tax collectors etc etc. But they weren't in fact they were in worse shape cause at least the "bad people" recognized they needed help. The Holy people were too good for Jesus. Which is why they killed him.

  • @timoteooliveira4228
    @timoteooliveira4228 2 роки тому +122

    Oh my GOD... finally someone sensitive and sane with the scriptures... God bless you brother 🤜🏻🤛🏿

    • @AA-hj8er
      @AA-hj8er 2 роки тому +3

      yeah it's rare these days. the church has blended in so well with the world.

    • @jusdavid1910
      @jusdavid1910 2 роки тому

      He is picking and choosing what scripture wrk for him and this situation to try and hurt these ppl ministry that’s not of God period if u go teach make sure teach everything not just what u wanna hurt ppl with that’s not God !!!

    • @Momofukudoodoowindu
      @Momofukudoodoowindu Рік тому

      I love your fist bump emoji

    • @creativechristiancontent
      @creativechristiancontent Рік тому +1

      @@jusdavid1910 it’s only people who are joining in with nonsense that defend nonsense. If you are running away from religion because of one person’s video then maybe you need to examine your ‘religion’ and instead run to God and seek a close relationship with Him then maybe He can open your eyes to show you personally when something is not is Godly (it’s called discernment)

    • @farealwitit7947
      @farealwitit7947 Рік тому

      are you using the lords name in vain?

  • @Pink_Mommy
    @Pink_Mommy 2 роки тому +1

    I’m sorry you’re complaint is that someone got up and clapped along to them singing. This is why Christian get such a bad wrap. You’re not going to “win” someone to Christ by bashing them, their lifestyle, nor their choices. God is love. God loved sinner while they were still actively sinning. This right here is why a lot of people don’t go to church. You’re entitled to you’re opinion but this just seems like you’re nitpicking. If this is how God is and thinks I don’t want anything to do with him. Maverick city worship is what got me reading the Bible and listening to sermons because it was appealing. Because it made me feel loved.

  • @truthandbeautyco
    @truthandbeautyco 2 роки тому +108

    Amen! Gods word is not about comfortability and having a fun life, it’s about transformation.

    • @iamthepossible
      @iamthepossible 2 роки тому

      So once “transformed” - what then should our life as believers be about? Look like? Expound please?

    • @truthandbeautyco
      @truthandbeautyco 2 роки тому +5

      @@iamthepossible it should look like Galatians 5:22.
      It should be about sharing the gospel to the broken and lost.
      It should be about praying for Gods boldness to walk in His truth.

    • @NotForNowNo
      @NotForNowNo Рік тому

      ​@@truthandbeautyco Yes!

    • @sandravarrenti927
      @sandravarrenti927 Рік тому

      Amen!

    • @NaomiMatsebula
      @NaomiMatsebula Рік тому +1

      Ohh I love this one!!

  • @cashnme4633
    @cashnme4633 2 роки тому +114

    I was at the concert last night in Seattle. I was invited by a friend, and didn't know their music or their dynamic. I am a believer in Jesus Christ. At times, I was encouraged by the message of "not living in shame". At other times, I was wondering where the name of Jesus was. We are all on a journey. It is good to question and evaluate who we are elevating. I don't sense judgement in this video. I do hear/see discernment. Make sure Jesus is at the center. Not man's way or Satan's deceptive way.

    • @Calvin375
      @Calvin375 2 роки тому

      You do know that Discernment is a form of judgment. So why are you afraid to admit that fact?

    • @cherylsimon1381
      @cherylsimon1381 2 роки тому +5

      @@Calvin375 It can be very confusing. First off there is such a thing as righteous judgement. Which is, in my opinion, the same thing as discernment. Now wrongfully judging someone one is lifting yourself higher or more elevated than others because you think you are better than them. Which is actually, if you think about it, pride. Pride is almost always what causes a man to fall

    • @dwighttaylordt
      @dwighttaylordt 2 роки тому +2

      @@Calvin375 The meaning of DISCERNMENT is the quality of being able to grasp and comprehend what is obscure, It also means to judge well. So if there is judgment it is right judgment which even if it is disputed cannot make it incorrect.

    • @thedangerousbeauty
      @thedangerousbeauty 2 роки тому

      🙏

    • @nikitarobinson-simms1735
      @nikitarobinson-simms1735 2 роки тому

      Not because you were at the concert means what you were seeing is right, is like Satan playing with Jesus, that's y it is good to have the Holy Spirit to see these things happening. It is not right

  • @MarniC70
    @MarniC70 2 роки тому +125

    I definitely agree with you on this subject, Pastor Frederick! Compromise is dangerous. Grateful for your channel! God bless you and yours.🙏🏽

  • @noizkelley317
    @noizkelley317 2 роки тому +19

    Our job is to plant the seed, God causes it to grow. Him clapping is an outward expression, he could be weeping in his soul for all we know, only God knows. I don't think it's fair to judge the Billy instance.

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому +3

      I appreciate your comment. As a pastor, I desire to see all unbelievers come to a saving faith in Jesus Christ but we must be careful that we’re not tickling ears and creating false converts. Some plant, some water but they key component is the Gospel and that was not present that evening.

    • @MsIveryld
      @MsIveryld 2 роки тому

      I agree.

  • @marsha-lynneugene7142
    @marsha-lynneugene7142 2 роки тому +2

    As a believer, any video you watch pertaining to what someone says about God and what He has told them… Take it back to the Lord for confirmation. That’s all I’m gonna say. There are way too many false teachers that are leading people away from the kingdom of God.

  • @robertbruce3959
    @robertbruce3959 2 місяці тому +1

    This video is even more relevant now after the recent P-Diddy scandal!

  • @HauwaBalaHalilu
    @HauwaBalaHalilu 2 роки тому +84

    I also prayed to God about Maverick city. After some weeks he gave me a dream.
    In the dream, I went to a maverick city concert. As I stepped into the room it was like the setting in a club. Maverick city was performing the song ‘come and move, we say yes to you.’
    They kept repeating this line. It was like they were calling on a deity or demon, that was not Jesus. It was bizarre. And the people around the stage- there was lesbians kissing and looked like they were about to have sex, people were drunk and high.
    There was so much evil, darkness and demons in the concert, in what was supposed to be a ‘worship’ Maverick city concert.

    • @FaithWorldChurchChicago
      @FaithWorldChurchChicago 2 роки тому +25

      when I actually went to their concert in chicago, it was a lot of sin in the atmosphere… I got beer spilled all over me, almost everyone around me was drunk or drinking, it smelled like weed, there was homosexual men and woman in the front “praising God” and not once did they pray to start the show or finish it.

    • @tyeishaleisure
      @tyeishaleisure 2 роки тому +5

      @@FaithWorldChurchChicago wow! Yikes! That’s just disturbing and says a whole lot about them that that’s what’s allowed.

    • @daughterofaking1562
      @daughterofaking1562 2 роки тому +21

      Yall do know gays can worship God yall do know it's the presence of the Lord tht change ppl now all the kissing one another at a worship concert idk about tht kissing at any concert is inappropriate to me frfr but I want everyone on this post to stop acting like if they were back in the Bible days an caught the women in adultery they would have been able to throw a stone just stop ✋️ it because none of us is without sin if you read the word of God some of the greatest men an women he used sinned but was forgiven what these young men an women need right now is prayers because while ppl talking about them being exposed all I see is all these fake so called Christians tht got a Lil platform hearts being exposed and I'm not saying this the case right here on the platform but talking about ppl putting your mouth on anyone is wrong but especially another bro or sister in the faith we should be praying not making I told u so post or these are not true ppl of God post because anybody tht know God know God was using this group and I believe still is they need prayers the enemy got in somewhere or could this be those ppl evil agenda because the younger generations was falling in love with Jesus listening to their music this all I have to say

    • @daughterofaking1562
      @daughterofaking1562 2 роки тому

      @@FaithWorldChurchChicagolet's be real Chicago is like gotham city all the stuff you talked about in your comment was in chi town before mcm got there let's not act like Chicago is known for worshipping the Lord so tbh its good tht they brought a mixed crowd out thats what's wrong with today's Christians they scared of the world well the world needs Jesus and saving souls is about more then going to church on Sunday u got to take the church into the street using wisdom of course but it's ppl out there who wouldn't dare come to church but they need Jesus so again it was good the mixed crowd came out to the concert prayerfully some lives got changed tht night

    • @AA-hj8er
      @AA-hj8er 2 роки тому

      @@FaithWorldChurchChicago wow

  • @juliettaloves
    @juliettaloves 2 роки тому +42

    I start my morning with prayer after which is gospel music as I get ready for the day and Maverick city is on every single day on my playlist. You've opened my eyes to a whole new perspective of them, I was not happy either about their drummer being pro abortion but I felt connected to the music. I have to change my playlist now. Thank you Pastor, for this insightful n honest video. I do not want to have anything to draw from wolves in sheep's clothing. I pray that God truly works thru them though n opens their eyes so they can remain in the vine.

    • @daughterofaking1562
      @daughterofaking1562 2 роки тому +9

      they wasn't always like this please pray for them The enemy saw how so many young ppl were worshipping God because of them now all of this is happening its a device of the enemy instead of all the so called Christians pointing out the bad in them remember we war not against flesh n blood we have to pray for them because they are very anointed the enemy is big gaint mad they / we as Christians have the power to change things nations transform situations through prayer to the most high God and let us not forget how we still sin daily this why God mercy is new everyday show these ppl some love this is noticed to gossip about but something to go into the secret place about

    • @AA-hj8er
      @AA-hj8er 2 роки тому +1

      Amen. I started praying first thing in the morning too.

    • @JBPeter57
      @JBPeter57 2 роки тому +11

      You do not necessarily have to change your playlist. Maybe they have songs that have been commercialized, but they definitely also have songs inspired by the Holy Spirit.
      In worship, our focus is God. If there be any truth in the content(s), think in this-ese.

    • @juliettaloves
      @juliettaloves 2 роки тому +1

      @@JBPeter57 I'm glad I did change my playlist, I've been listening to mostly Hebrew, Arabic worship songs n I've been dancing to them (like David when Lord's spirit was on him) this has also inspired me to take a holy lands trip that I've booked to do next year. Do listen to some of them (or maybe I'm being biased cz of my Turkish heritage)

  • @isaiahflowers9966
    @isaiahflowers9966 2 роки тому +5

    As a follower and believer I believe our purpose is to bring people to the light. I believe that is what Maverick City is doing. Although it may not look like what you expect it to look like who are you to judge? Jesus literally went against the religion said and against what the religious leaders of his time said to save people.

    • @glendaspeakstotheheart
      @glendaspeakstotheheart 3 місяці тому

      Beautifully said , I believe this music has brought a lot of young people to Christ. You know in Christ days the Pharisees felt the same way about Him . He was so "far off " the traditional way of teaching and the traditional way of doing things. The Pharisees spent a who 3years trying to fit His teaching into their "current religious philosophy " ! When could not succeed they decided "Crucifixion" was the next best solution . The BET Awards has a Gospel division right ??? So that's why they were there. Something hit Billy Porter's spirit to cause him to stand while people around him did not . Be careful !!!

  • @Bellanaria
    @Bellanaria Рік тому +2

    I Remember A Few Years Ago, Naomi Ministered At Joann Rosario's Church. Joann Took Time Out In The Service To Remind Her That She Has A Precious Ministry and To Guard It She Admonished Her To Be Discerning. She Also Told Her That They Would Be After Her Gift. She Even Prayed Over Her That She Would Not Fall Prey To The Music Industry And Trappings of The World and Fame.

  • @peterdoyne9234
    @peterdoyne9234 2 роки тому +10

    Thank you brother for taking a stand. So many bowing the knee to Ba’al yet God has those who will bow only to Jesus, no matter the cost. No compromise is what following Jesus is all about. That’s been my conviction since 1978.

  • @thulsadon
    @thulsadon 2 роки тому +274

    Brother you are 100% spot on. Thank you for providing this and speaking Biblical truths. You are doing this out of love and concern and not in a vindictive way.

    • @ILikeYouUC
      @ILikeYouUC 2 роки тому +6

      Hear, hear!
      I love that you are being discerning without being reactionary. Very BALANCED; much appreciated.
      Praying that Almighty God protect you from the evil one, so you stand strong and stay true to the truth of Scripture.

    • @micjohny
      @micjohny 2 роки тому +4

      I love how this Pastor has approached this issue with a spirit of love unlike some other Pastors who spew hate at other pastors

    • @softmusic86
      @softmusic86 2 роки тому

      Love and concern🤔?

  • @bonnieblackmon7783
    @bonnieblackmon7783 2 роки тому +36

    all i know is that when i listen to their worship music , i feel the holy spirit, and hope that one day i can find a church that worships like that.

  • @lbministries780
    @lbministries780 2 роки тому +8

    Psalm 150: Let EVERYTHING that hath breath PRAISE the LORD. God didn't exclude anyone when it comes to the praise due to Him. Abba didn't ask for a resume. He simply said. EVERYTHING breathing must praise Him.

    • @rasheenanicole2784
      @rasheenanicole2784 2 роки тому +2

      Matthew 7:21 says, "Not everyone who says to me,'Lord Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father in Heaven." Many "praise" or shout-out God, but yet their hearts are from Him.

    • @lbministries780
      @lbministries780 2 роки тому +2

      @@rasheenanicole2784 Yes, that scripture is correct, however, it does not negate the fact that the Word says Let everything breathing praise the Lord (anything that needs oxygen to live). Now, concerning people, this is where free will comes in, along with a heart decision of whether the praise is genuine of for show.... And God only can judge that.

    • @Nakialynn
      @Nakialynn 2 роки тому

      I’m a Christian and I see why so many people have issues with us. There is one judger and that’s GOD. Jesus went to the lowest places to save people so why can’t billy porter stand up and feel the presence of GOD? Not one person on this earth know what this man is fighting with and going through. If people feel so compelled to judge anything that doesn’t act up to their standards… be like Jesus and go to them and save them and stop judging. We all sin and no sin is bigger than the other and…. Everybody wasn’t always saved! Show people grace we all fighting something.

  • @CMarie_B
    @CMarie_B Рік тому

    Appreciate your truth in ministry, thank you!

  • @derrickmuturi5343
    @derrickmuturi5343 2 роки тому +1

    Why do people not realize that worship ministers are also human beings? Hold them to a high standard and they will disappoint you. Much as it is a ministry, it is also a career. So yes, they are going to perform at BET, and their goal won't be to make people be "uncomfortable". I just feel like everyone is waiting on them to fail for some reason.

  • @RJayMusiq1
    @RJayMusiq1 2 роки тому +62

    First of all bro, God bless you bro. There’s a fine line between telling the truth and judgement. You have a point, but at the end of the day they are vessels of God and the Gospel, so as much as I see your intention is to raise awareness and express your concerns on the group. I think it’s also important to remember Mavericks intention. They’re on a mission, God isn’t always moving in ways we as outsiders of their assignment will understand, they are bringing souls to Christ regardless. That’s my piece. Blessings!

    • @123-v9e-s4y
      @123-v9e-s4y 2 роки тому +12

      Not really bro. Doctrine matters.
      DANIEL 3:5

    • @davidmorris5288
      @davidmorris5288 2 роки тому +1

      It's important to know God can and will bring people to His family through our goodness or our sinfulness, but that doesn't mean He is pleased equally by our sin vs goodness. As redeemed, new creations, dead to sin, alive in Christ, our intentions should be submitted to showing the undeserved love of christ. Jesus asks that our actions look a certain way. Out of love for Christ and trust in His words (not just legalism or rule following) I want to walk the straight and narrow according to The Word. I just hope Maverick and Kirk are examining borh intentions AND actions.

    • @fritzherrmann762
      @fritzherrmann762 2 роки тому +3

      Ur wrong

    • @Calvin375
      @Calvin375 2 роки тому +2

      I am sorry, but GOD does not use evil to bring forth His purpose. His Word is true and it shall never return back void. So to say that GOD uses any kind of evil intent to bring forth His good, is false teaching.

    • @mommatschannel9673
      @mommatschannel9673 2 роки тому +2

      Their bringing lukewarm believers to Christ that’s no good.

  • @Aname87
    @Aname87 2 роки тому +4

    So bc Billy Porter, who probably grew up in church, and possibly still had a relationship with God (bc it’s a PERSONAL relationship with God) this is somehow an issue with Maverick City. This type of judgement is what causes people to stray from the church and “rebel.”

    • @simonedishelle6720
      @simonedishelle6720 2 роки тому

      You miss understood what he was addressing. Billy Porter is a homosexual man who dresses in women’s dresses. He has no conviction of his sin and believes it’s 100% okay to do what he does and is not repentant. He is saying the music that they were singing should have been gospel centered and convicting not the opposite.

    • @sheilawilliams5766
      @sheilawilliams5766 2 роки тому +2

      @@simonedishelle6720 I strongly beg to differ. Everyone has the right to the Gospel of Jesus Christ at his or her level. Don't be so quick to judge because people don't look like religious church folks. This is a problem within itself. If you're a Pastor and announce that you're a fan of Maverick City why could this be a private conversation? Yes, all the scriptures that were introduced and quoted on this thread are from the word of God. Perhaps they reached Billy Porter at that moment. Something has to move us in order for our hands to clap. Stop judging and pray more, talk less.

    • @Aname87
      @Aname87 2 роки тому

      @@simonedishelle6720 i didn’t miss anything. I understand that viewpoint. I don’t agree and stated my own opinion.

  • @guidancegunundu2932
    @guidancegunundu2932 6 місяців тому +7

    Who is here after the 2024 BET’s performance.

    • @tapiwakayzkuyaziwa5292
      @tapiwakayzkuyaziwa5292 5 місяців тому

      Imagine 😢 I had bought tickets for their show in London and now thinking otherwise

  • @edwarddumbuya657
    @edwarddumbuya657 2 роки тому +1

    This is exactly why many are running out of the church because of the attitude of those who call themselves believers. Why spiritual high horse is the reason we are where we are. Are we concerned about the misconceptions and contradictions in the Bible. Have we dealt with the changes in the characters of the Bible? How did we address the name of Jesus knowing there is no J in Greek alphabet so where did this Jesus come from. Please there are so many things to address in the Bible than petty things.

    • @sowhat1191
      @sowhat1191 2 роки тому

      Again… PREACH!!!! Jesus doesn’t need a personal assistant for his judgement and conviction department. He needs disciples to bring people in. Bottom line.

  • @jomamapalmer9223
    @jomamapalmer9223 Рік тому

    Question: Have you gone to these people n spoke with them regarding your concerns? It is biblical;
    “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.
    But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church.”
    MT 18:15-17
    As a pastor, knowing the Word, I hope this has been your first move then to blast this giving others reasons to walk away or not come to God.
    We are fall short…but he who is called a teacher of the law, much more will be required of him.
    ALL of us will be accountable for what comes out of our mouth😮, that’s scary for every living soul.
    P.S. Pastor Furtick is anointed n God is using him in mighty ways to bring people to Him.
    It saddens me to see people stomp on our own brothers n sisters…but when it comes from a man of the cloth, it’s😢

  • @lovejones0686
    @lovejones0686 2 роки тому +10

    Everything that is said is so true. I grew up in the church and grew up listening to Kirk Franklin. As a young adult I stopped going to Church but started going back in my early 30s. Now what I will say is my husband and I went to a couple of Christian concerts this year like we are messengers and sidewalk prophets and he surprised me with tickets to maverick city in Brooklyn. I was excited until he said Kirk would be there...I told him I didn't want to go then because I knew what clientele would be there. Needless to say I was 1000% right. Even my boss was like what concert happened to where there's people that looked like they were half in and half out the church? Honestly I did not feel God at that concert like I did with the others. Even the entourage was interesting.

  • @conniefloyd9009
    @conniefloyd9009 2 роки тому +21

    Quick question, if we don't take Gods word to the world, how is the world going to learn about him. As a new believer I appreciate people like Maverick City, Kirk Franklin and others who are not afraid of being condemned by man for stepping outside" the Christian box" to win souls for the Kingdom of God

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому +10

      Thank you for your question. Yes, we’re supposed to take the Gospel to the world. They performed at the BET Awards, didn’t present the Gospel or God’s word for that matter. And performed with Diddy and sang his songs. Stepping outside the “Christian box” has made Kirk Franklin a lot of money and at best a bunch of false converts who think they are saved.

    • @conniefloyd9009
      @conniefloyd9009 2 роки тому +3

      @@ByTheBookMinistries does God disown his children because they make money. Alot of Christian/ Gospel artist collaborate with secular artist, this is called getting the Fathers word out. What does it matter how his word is shared as long as it's shared. Think about this; sometimes the only way some people hear about God is through unconventional methods, so what you're saying is because it's not done in a traditional setting it's not right. You're using Social media as your platform, some could say you're not really about saving souls but are trying to build your social media presence. Is that fair to you? Let's agree that the main priority is winning souls for the Kingdom and stop focusing on how we believe people should praise God and let people praise him they way they want to. If you have a problem with them and u know them discuss that with that person. Remember " LET HE WITHOUT SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE". Save space for grace. Let's cover each other and stop condeming each other.

    • @tyeishaleisure
      @tyeishaleisure 2 роки тому +3

      @@conniefloyd9009 if God‘s word a.k.a. the gospel isn’t presented which are most cases when these collaborations happen it isn’t, then it’s called compromise not getting God‘s word out. Kirk Franklin has commercialized The gospeland has watered it down to make it more appealing. He’s not getting invitations to worldly platforms because he’s a man of God. He’s getting these invitations because he’s a pleaser of man.

    • @conniefloyd9009
      @conniefloyd9009 2 роки тому +6

      @@tyeishaleisure I think some believers focus on the wrong thing when they see Kingdom folk performing on wordly platforms. The focus should be on the message presented not the location it was presented at. Is it our job to decide how and where the word is shared. I have folliwed Kirk Franklin since he came on the scene and his message has been the same; winning souls for the Kingdom. What you see as a man pleaser I see as a God pleaser, it's all in our perspective. I'm also curious as to what you have observed personally that makes you say Kirk Franklin is not what he says he is

    • @mmgk9464
      @mmgk9464 2 роки тому +4

      For my understanding if only they perform to only Christians "saved" or churches who will preach to the others. Them performing at BET one soul can be won and that's enough for God's kingdom.

  • @smartchristians
    @smartchristians 2 роки тому +28

    Keep doing what you are doing brother

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому +2

      Will do! Thanks brother. Much appreciated!

    • @sweetazzpiew8490
      @sweetazzpiew8490 2 роки тому +1

      @@ByTheBookMinistries I wanted to ask you a couple of questions, I'm struggling with this..Is there a scripture that says it is a sin for a woman to wear makeup, wear wigs, wear fake braids, wear pants?? Thank You Very Much

    • @jesusislord9707
      @jesusislord9707 2 роки тому

      @sweetazzpiew8490 No there is nothing in scriptures that commands you shouldn't do any of those. However, scriptures says to let your adorning be from inside, none of those things define who you are, let men see your light. Just make sure you aren't doing any of it for the wrong reasons, it's all about the hearts intent. God bless!

  • @abigailtandoh1155
    @abigailtandoh1155 Рік тому +1

    Their event with Kirk Franklin was a good show but unfortunately I didn’t see God in there.

  • @SonyaChristine70
    @SonyaChristine70 6 місяців тому +1

    I see this was a year ago. It HAS become worse!! He’s right , we are supposed to make the unsaved uncomfortable. Not comfortable in their sin.

  • @ellon3619
    @ellon3619 2 роки тому +10

    Thank God for this video teaching. I have been telling my daughter this the past few months about the shift in Maverick City. Lord pull them back to you, in Jesus name Amen

  • @karenbrown6805
    @karenbrown6805 2 роки тому +5

    Omg!!! You are so on point with this video. I kept saying it!! We gotta keep them in prayer.

  • @rchambers1993
    @rchambers1993 2 роки тому +13

    You got it right on target! Billy Porter standing in praise to that and not falling in repentance we as a body have greatly missed the mark! Oh Jesus.. I’ve been disturbed by contemporary Christian music for a while now…Father God have mercy on us and help us turn to Him and lay down our idols!

    • @diannaparis
      @diannaparis 2 роки тому

      That's exactly why I listen to loveworld singers, which are the choir from my church. They completely stay away from the secular world. You might want to check them out.

  • @GerofitTablet
    @GerofitTablet Рік тому +1

    Don't want ANYTHING to do with "Puff's" influence in Christian music.

  • @chinagozinwankwo
    @chinagozinwankwo 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with him but I disagree on his take with Porter. Rather you wear dresses or skirts as a man the gospel is for everyone. I agree its not a good look but the gospel is like the word of God. It's for everyone. Kirk can't help who claps to it.

  • @chafester4886
    @chafester4886 2 роки тому +10

    We as Christians must continue to lift up the body of Christ up as we all have fallen short. I'm glad that you posted this video and appreciate the comments below because it has opened my eyes as a reminder to continue to keep fellow Christians in prayer. Jesus tells the church in Laodicea, “I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth” (Rev. 3:15-16). We must pray for

    • @chafester4886
      @chafester4886 2 роки тому

      each other and trust that God hears our prayers and that His perfect will be done. For He is ABLE to do exceedingly abundantly above ALL we can ever imagine or think. If you notice in the video, the performer seems to be the only one standing in that area. How do we know what is truly warring inside of him? This event may have convicted him inside and we may not even see a change in him now; but, God...

  • @quintoncooper4581
    @quintoncooper4581 2 роки тому +4

    The scriptures says Let EVERYTHING that hath breath praise the Lord. It didn't say let everything that is "saved" according to your standard praise the Lord. I don't get your point. Who or what gives you the authority to say who can praise God? If you did anything research you would know he came out of COGIC church. As probably most of the people in that building probably came out of the church.

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому

      I appreciate your comment. However, your comment only introduces more issues. The COGIC church is not known for their sound theology, instead they are notorious legalist and rules driven. That explains why Billy Porter is not a Christian but why he’s still accustomed to “praising” God; because he’s been conditioned by a works based denomination. So what good is singing and clapping to a watered down song doing for him, other than making him feel good about his version of Jesus he’s created? Billy needs the Gospel. Songs don’t save people but they certainly can lead people down a dangerous path.

  • @PCMcCree
    @PCMcCree 2 роки тому +7

    Question: What Gospel song has hard convicting lyrics????

    • @jessicaclements4588
      @jessicaclements4588 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly, Bishop!!!! And where does it say that we are supposed to
      make sinners uncomfortable?

    • @PCMcCree
      @PCMcCree 2 роки тому +2

      @@jessicaclements4588 my Bible doesn’t read that way

  • @ishmaelsello9430
    @ishmaelsello9430 2 роки тому +1

    Luke 9:50
    As Christians we need to stop spending time judging each other and exposing what we see as faults in others as they do what they see best for the Kingdom. The body needs to stop fighting with itself and understand that all of us are playing a role and judging each other on YT and social media shouldn't be the way we go with things.
    Thank you

  • @CreateYourOwnEconomy
    @CreateYourOwnEconomy 2 роки тому +4

    Brother just found your content. Love your approach to the things of God. Many today won’t understand how the things of God should be uncomfortable to those in darkness. Be encouraged.

  • @elishawilliams8793
    @elishawilliams8793 2 роки тому +52

    I can appreciate how you presented this video. You told the truth...IN LOVE!

  • @solidfoundation5545
    @solidfoundation5545 2 роки тому +18

    Amen brotha! We are not to mix with the world. Keep holding the Body accountable. To GOD be the glory! Be and stay encouraged to speak The WORD Of GOD!

  • @toniwoods3985
    @toniwoods3985 2 роки тому +13

    Thank you! Thank you! I had this same conversation with a Christian friend. But what got me with the group was when they sang with P Diddy. Don't let you good be evil spoken of.

  • @catherineanola7832
    @catherineanola7832 2 роки тому +2

    We are living by the Grace of God. Who are we to judge? Let's pray for them and let's pray for ourselves to be a good testimony to others. Whatever we see and hear on social media we should stay strong on our foundation.

  • @_LSW
    @_LSW Рік тому

    I learned this from a worship leader once and that was to worship how we feel in the moment. whether it be standing, clapping, weeping, hands raised, sitting, or eyes closed listening. Whatever it is we are still praising the Lord. And your issue is that someone who is LGBTQ+ should instead be trembling on their knees to be convicted of something. Let me get this straight God loves everyone who comes to worship him and feel loved and welcomed. I think that Maverick City Music is making sure that everyone knows Jesus by making their songs comfortable for anyone. It's like how U2 backed down from being way too religious but still has a godly reference in their songs like Beautiful Day and many others. We are Christians and if there is a huge audience then we need to cater to everyone because just catering to one group of people and then seeing others want to join in then there needs to be a change. I get what you're saying but this not going down the wrong path it's them sharing the gospel but in a way that is comfortable for other people to join and hear about Jesus. 'Cause, there are so many people burned by churches, and for Maverick to make their music comfortable while still having it promote Jesus is okay. It's always amazing to see a gay man praising the Lord because at that moment God is not judging them instead God is just feeling blessed every moment.

  • @yommysteven1336
    @yommysteven1336 2 роки тому +4

    I have commented on the maverick city music collaborations with everybody I don't feel the same anymore.. it looks like something has left it feels empty now and it's sad because their music always bring me close to the presence almighty God.. pray for revival..

  • @jwaccessories8582
    @jwaccessories8582 2 роки тому +5

    I think lets pray for each other we all have fallen one way or the other and yet we are waiting for Jesus's coming let's pray for the body of christ

  • @shakeirahoward3861
    @shakeirahoward3861 2 роки тому +34

    The truth shall set you free! Thank you for this video brother 🙏

    • @kirkfranklin9647
      @kirkfranklin9647 2 роки тому

      Hello, how are you doing? Are you one of my Fans??

  • @nkeely35
    @nkeely35 Рік тому

    Man, it's refreshing to know there are people, like you, who are truly paying attention and warning that there's a right way and a wrong way to worship God. God said what He meant and He meant what He said.

  • @brandonwinbush7923
    @brandonwinbush7923 2 роки тому +1

    Billy Porter has a right to praise God just as everyone else on (and off) the stage in that video. The fact that you all are expecting him to be falling on his knees, repenting during that song is quite disturbing and ridiculous. How come you didn’t expect everyone else in the room to fall on their knees and repent? Oh…. because they weren’t wearing a dress? I’m not sure how I stumbled across this video but I hope I never come anywhere near your posts or anyone who thinks like this ever again. It is sickening and quite damaging to people and it reminds me of how grateful I am to be free from this mentality.

  • @kickbackcuz5165
    @kickbackcuz5165 2 роки тому +105

    Sometimes people need an introduction. They are simply and advertisement for God. A reminder that He exists. I've been to one of there concerts and If you focus on the words... there's a message there. Im curious to know who your Playlist consists of. Yes unfortunately compromise has appeared but I think they are still ministering and bringing people to God.

    • @godschosen414
      @godschosen414 2 роки тому +17

      The devil knows the word, so that doesn’t matter. There is always a message from him hidden in the word because he twists God’s word. Stay sober and vigilant because there are sheep in wolves clothing that will lead many to hell. Follow Jesus! Sing a new song to Him. And that Billy guy was wearing an outfit with hidden wings under it..fallen Angel? 🫣and those eyes.
      Matthew 7:13-14
      13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
      14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    • @SavedByTheBLOOD04
      @SavedByTheBLOOD04 2 роки тому +10

      @@godschosen414 Amen, satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Believers must to beware of following the FALSE light. Counterfeit Christ. “Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast in the field”... Gen 3:1 KJV. God’s Word also states, in James 4:4 that friendship with the world is enmity with God. I, myself, am astonished by my lack of discernment, as a Born Again Christian... until 2020 when the Lord shook me, woke me up and opened my eyes. Glory to God! Praise the Lord Jesus Christ for that Blessed Assurance... Born of His Spirit washed in His Blood. 🙏🏻👑🙌🏻❤️ Praying for all my brothers and sisters in Christ for strength, boldness, wisdom and discernment and for the lost to accept Christ as their personal Saviour, by grace through faith. Share the Gospel of Jesus Christ... time is short. MARANATHA. God Bless you and keep you. 🙏🏻

    • @sammydodgers121
      @sammydodgers121 2 роки тому +4

      Don't forget that the devil quoted scripture to Jesus Himself to try and tempt Him, so don't be deceived because there's a "good message" in their music. The devil is a master deceiver and he's had thousands of years of practice. Obviously he's going to wrap his demonic plans with a nice "good message". If the devil was so blatant, nobody would get deceived, and if his demonic spirits were so easily detected, the Bible wouldn't ask us to test every spirit. We have to be vigilant; to test means to look deeper, not just experience some good vibes from a catchy song and say they passed the test. The devil is smart, so we need the wisdom of the Holy Spirit

    • @apriljohnson7447
      @apriljohnson7447 2 роки тому

      @@godschosen414 indeed

    • @teethart9865
      @teethart9865 2 роки тому +6

      Exactly. Someone needs to preach. They are preaching in places Christians think we are too holy to go. But I hear him on keeping watch. But they are doing the work.

  • @KODB256
    @KODB256 2 роки тому +8

    As a Christian you will realize that there are worship songs that come with anointing powers in them and it’s natural, so if you are strong in Faith, you will be in position to know what song to with. Let’s Pray for Maverick City. There songs indeed changed lotta peoples life turning back to God. Yes and Amen| Jireh | Promises carry lots of Gods anointing.

  • @Supernal219
    @Supernal219 2 роки тому +22

    We are all God's children. I believe they are reaching the World for Jesus. Some who would never hear about Christ because of Church Hurt etc. Only God can Judge.

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому +10

      Thank you for your comment but I must correct you. Please refrain from saying “only God can judge” because it’s unbiblical and illogical. God commands us to judge righteously (John 7:24) and to judge without hypocrisy (Matthew 7:1-5). Furthermore, you made a judgment on my video which contradicts your point. Yes, we’re supposed go into the world and proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ with love and grace but we must not compromise ourselves in the process. This is just a warning.

    • @Supernal219
      @Supernal219 2 роки тому +1

      @@ByTheBookMinistries Question, when we leave our earthly bodies, Who has the final say in where you spend eternity? Will God or Man?

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому +8

      @@Supernal219 That doesn’t disprove the fact that the Bible tells us to judge.

    • @sharinegalloway2452
      @sharinegalloway2452 2 роки тому +1

      @ Sabrina is superna. At the time of death and your last breath you will have determined where you will spend eternity. If you accept the free gift of salvation and believe Jesus is the Son of God, and you accept Him as your LORD and Saviour and repent of your sins you will be saved. If you reject the free gift you will spend eternity separated from GOD and His kingdom forever.

    • @conniefloyd9009
      @conniefloyd9009 2 роки тому +2

      @@ByTheBookMinistries You are misrepresenting those Scriptures. Let's start with John 7:24; KJV- JUDGE NOT ACCORDING TO THE APPEARANCE, BUT JUDGE RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT, and here it is in Bible in Basic English- LET NOT YOUR DECISIONS BE BASED ON WHAT YOU SEE, BUT ON RIGHTEOUSNESS.So even if the Bible tells us to judge it tells us to do so based on what's right, not on what we see.

  • @brianawoodson9377
    @brianawoodson9377 2 роки тому

    My prayer for every believer in God, he tells us that we all fall short of his glory. I pray that every man, woman, boy and girl will build a altar in their hearts for the Lord. I pray that we will lift up our brothers and sisters when we find them falling the world is so dark and it's easy to get caught up but that's why we are part of the body of Christ when we see one part of the body is broken the whole body is broken when we see the body is strong we're all strong so we start to see our brothers and sisters are being drawn towards the world we have to intercede and pray for them that they will get back and God's good Grace each one of us every day do something that's displeasing to God but that's why his grace is so sufficient to each one of us we have to have grace for our brothers and sisters and uplift the body in Christ We have to pray for one another, that we will not be tempted by the things of this world, but I minds will be transform so my prayer, peace and blessings, and may God's strength carry each, and every single one of y'all every gospel music everyone is trying I pray that we come together and be united in the body I pray no the division in the body. I pray that we come together as one, as Jesus is the head of the body, and we are all different body parts. We supposed to help each one out when one of us fall let's do something the time is coming near,when Jesus is coming for us all he's going to hold each one of us accountable for not doing our job. Let's love one another in Christ uplift and pray. Love you all God bless. Sometimes when we see things going on, we gotta ask her self. What would Jesus do in a situation like this pray

  • @juliettechengemutunda5493
    @juliettechengemutunda5493 2 роки тому +1

    I wish we as believers prayed for and directly approached the people that we “expose” on these socials, I pray that we also dissect our personal walk with God as we dissect other people’s.

  • @MomLife-wb3qr
    @MomLife-wb3qr Рік тому +3

    It really breaks my heart to see this happening to MAV. Chandler and Naomi used to sing with such anointing...

  • @exoduswriters
    @exoduswriters Рік тому +28

    We definitely need to pray for Maverick City, Mali Music, Travis Greene, the Wahls Group and many more. Pray not condemn and cover them in love..I would love to see a video where an intercessor is covering these singing group. Thank you for this video.

  • @amarriglanton7845
    @amarriglanton7845 2 роки тому +7

    I agree I’ve used to listen to Maverick city. And it brought tears to my eyes. True worship is in spirit in truth. When real worship hits you, you become undone crying and weeping for forgiveness and just worshiping the father calling him holy. I hope Maverick gets influenced by the Holy Spirit. Lord open their eyes in Jesus names amen.

  • @purcetc
    @purcetc 2 роки тому +1

    Why waste your time criticizing the actions of other brothers and sisters. The devil is the accuser of the brethren. We are called to love our brothers and sister and build each other up not tear them down. Knowledge puffs up but love builds up. Let us stop being critical Christians and then we will truly be the light of the world. If we don’t have love then we don’t know God.
    Btw the man dressed as a woman is likely showing respect and honor to the artists by showing his participation in this songs. How many times does a sinner walk into our church service and not feel convicted? Not everything we do has to make a sinner feel conviction. It’s His kindness that leads to repentance. Not Him holding the law over our heads.

    • @sowhat1191
      @sowhat1191 2 роки тому

      🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @justinboyd1986
    @justinboyd1986 2 роки тому +1

    I’m a little confused, you’re upset because Billy Porter is clapping for Maverick city music on a song. They have no control of that. Also how do you know Billy Porter is not a believer everybody is a sinner it gives me more of your judging like your God.

  • @JereanafolloweroftheWay
    @JereanafolloweroftheWay 2 роки тому +13

    You did a great job on this brother! The question is who is the object of worship? It’s clear the Lord is not the object of worship here. In essence this is idolatry, which should not be named among true believers.

    • @ByTheBookMinistries
      @ByTheBookMinistries  2 роки тому +3

      That’s a great question! It’s important we remember who we are worshiping and why we worship!

  • @anthonychildress1737
    @anthonychildress1737 2 роки тому +5

    Our command is to love not make people uncomfortable 😊

    • @julietchuya9178
      @julietchuya9178 2 роки тому

      Thank you I am like the gospel is not reserved to believers. We may not agree with everything but correct what is wrong but do not judge.

    • @GuitarforHISGlory
      @GuitarforHISGlory 2 роки тому

      Our command is to go into all nations and preach the gospel of Christ. The good news makes sinners uncomfortable; it forces a choice. Repent and believe or harden your heart and remain an enemy of God.

  • @jrhaydon939
    @jrhaydon939 2 роки тому +11

    Honestly,I’m not surprised,this is what a lot of Christian artist have done before in times past and we will continue to see more do it,because at the end of the day to a lot of them it’s business,unfortunately.

  • @SswagMovement
    @SswagMovement 2 роки тому

    who are you to determine who claps for gospel music or a gospel performance? and what does that have to do with Maverick City?

  • @poeticwisdom6420
    @poeticwisdom6420 Рік тому +2

    I agree with everything you said, except when it came to Billy Porter. We can't control how people reacts to the Gospel. Where is the critique to those who didn't even stand up? Now I'm definitely praying for Maverick City, because they are losing their touch but I will reserve my judgement and let God deal with them. #ezekiel33

  • @Itunuomooba
    @Itunuomooba 2 роки тому +8

    By the Rivers of Babylon there we sat down and there we wept when we remembered Zion😭😭😭.... Lord have mercy Gospel musicians🙏🙏

    • @jovannalbrad
      @jovannalbrad 2 роки тому

      Have you heard Joshua Aaron's song by that name? By the Rivers of Babylon. The best one is live at the Tower of David. The whole concert is wonderful!

  • @faith2faithconnections448
    @faith2faithconnections448 2 роки тому +70

    Interesting! Definitely something worth praying about! I love, Love, many of their worship songs! I don’t think we can assume that while a person appears to be clapping and enjoying their music that God is not convicting them. I have definitely been convicted by a song or lyrics and appeared very comfortable! Father knows what the ❤️ heart is saying. I do agree that compromise will weaken your anointing and impact!!! We have to be so careful who we get in the mix with!!! Lord be Merciful 🙌🏽

    • @carlycandace
      @carlycandace 2 роки тому +10

      I was thinking the same thing. We don’t know what’s going on in the heart 🙌🏾

    • @senamarieglobal2021
      @senamarieglobal2021 2 роки тому +2

      @@carlycandace 100% correct

    • @senamarieglobal2021
      @senamarieglobal2021 2 роки тому +2

      I absolutely agree with you. Pray on it

    • @chumps7974
      @chumps7974 2 роки тому +6

      I had similar thoughts. An artist really can't control who does what when people hear their music. God can however and he does minister to people thru music. I will pray for Maverick City that they will let GOD use them.

    • @thedangerousbeauty
      @thedangerousbeauty 2 роки тому +1

      This...agreed 🙏

  • @DECARLTONARMSTRONGSr
    @DECARLTONARMSTRONGSr 2 роки тому +5

    I was hurt because of their message. I play their music to my youth in my house even time I play b4 I served God's manna but then I began to pull away not even knowing what was going.

  • @MegaStream001
    @MegaStream001 2 роки тому +1

    That’s not your place to say who can or can not worship God, we suppose to teach the word God to everybody, that’s for God to judge not you

  • @taronharris4721
    @taronharris4721 2 роки тому +1

    I’ve stopped the video at 2:44. As a queer woman who loves the lord, and I am assured he loves me back your “God like” judgements are the problem with the Christian community today and why so many people have strayed away from God completely. You should be ashamed pastor because you are no one’s GOD.!!! This is a new day and Gods posture of love is showing up boldly in this world weather you choose to see it or not!

  • @stephaniedukes9913
    @stephaniedukes9913 2 роки тому +15

    Good afternoon. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I must admit I get caught up sometimes with the cooled sound of gospel music. But then, I find myself searching the lyrics looking for anointing and God’s Word. Lately gospel music has been lacking in those areas. I find my self falling back on the Word of God in Romans 12:2 - “Don’t copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will learn to know God’s will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect.”
    ‭‭Romans‬ ‭12:2‬ ‭NLT‬‬
    In essence, I wish the believers and followers of Christ’s precepts would for once lead the world and not be a follower of the world. Sigh….keep praying saints.

    • @kirkfranklin9647
      @kirkfranklin9647 2 роки тому

      Hello, how are you doing? Are you one of my Fans??

  • @Jackie.Verchot
    @Jackie.Verchot 2 роки тому +59

    Thank you for this video. At one time, MAV was on my playlist all day. When they partnered with Kirk Franklin, they changed completely. I miss the Maverick City that could bring me to tears with the songs that exuded their love for God…it makes me sad to see what they have become.

    • @tyeishaleisure
      @tyeishaleisure 2 роки тому +4

      Sadly, Kirk Franklin will corrupt anyone he partners with. And now they’re on tour with him again currently. And sadly, even if their partnership with Kirk Franklin comes to an end, I don’t think they’ll go back to the way they used to be. They got a lot of attention and a lot of notoriety with him involved, and usually those that are corrupted by Kirk Franklin tend to stay corrupted. I follow a couple artists that work with Kirk Franklin, however, they didn’t let them take over. Meditating music, full joy with anyone that will give them a platform even if those people aren’t good.

    • @joshuaejovi3722
      @joshuaejovi3722 2 роки тому

      @@tyeishaleisure What's wrong with Kirk franklin though? Genuinely curious cos I haven't followed any recent stuff

    • @d1mples91
      @d1mples91 2 роки тому +1

      @@joshuaejovi3722 His musical is more worldly, and low-key gay rumors

    • @darrickgay3628
      @darrickgay3628 2 роки тому

      i agree 100% i stop listening when they joined him too

    • @darrickgay3628
      @darrickgay3628 2 роки тому +1

      i went from listening to them everyday to not at all because of it

  • @TheYoulante
    @TheYoulante Рік тому +3

    This opened my eyes even more. I've been feeling differently about them and other artists, and I was going to have my praise team and I sing their songs at Sabbath Divine Worship, I'll pray for discernment over this.

  • @joegirard4237
    @joegirard4237 2 роки тому +1

    Why are you condemning them because a non believer is singing the music?!?!?
    Am I missing something... It's so easy to judge others...

  • @Durantbphresh
    @Durantbphresh 2 роки тому +1

    So I can understand the stance. However what would you suggest as a better way to reach people at scale? All I am hearing is Mav got it wrong. But I’ve yet to hear any advice on how to be just as effective in terms of scale without sacrificing what you view as doctrinally sound.