Oh Nightmare... the first game, a masterclass. The second, a hard-fought disaster. The third... flashes of brilliance, only for DRG to just steamroller him at the end. Perfect use of Stasis... just... without robo units ready and on the field, it wasn't even close to enough. Thanks for the good games for the fans, Winter.
DRG is so fun to watch and embodies the spirit of why i wanted to learn and play zerg. there is just nothing more satisfying or zerg-y than watching a swarm of lings do their things. and once lings completed doing their things and they are no more...you dont even care because you can replace 1 million lings per second anyways. i mean, yes there are some tech unis and they are useful but man... THE SWARM is why i love zerg
A couple great Ling flanks on the Stalkers in that last game. And yet, when he had all the time in the world to set one up, at 40:45, he doesn't... 🤷♂
Blink stalkers are one of the few protoss units that can keep up with cracklings, speedwise, and can (sort of) kite as long as there's a critical mass. Those, along with oracle stasis traps, are not meant to counter the lings, they're meant to buy time for stronger units (robo or storm templar) to hit the field A better question is why wasn't he making colossi instead of immortals. Yeah, he knows the ultras are coming, but blink stalkers do great against ultras if there's enough of them, however, the mass cracklings are going to prove a serious problem for both the immortals and the stalkers. I would chalk it up to nerves/panic - literally no one but DRG does mass lings these days.
Yet Protoss is still winning the most tournaments overall. You can try explaining to metal league players the reason that if you buff Protoss to perform equally in Katowice, then 99% of GM would be Protoss, GM's would stop playing so there would be no-one interested in Katowice. Metal league players just don't get it lol.
@@Wwillswords The game has been very well balanced every month for the past year or so, and the most recent month Protoss is slightly ahead in both PvZ & PvT. It looks like you don't know where the official monthly Balance Report is? What has "money made" got to do with anything? Why would you ask "by what criteria?" There has only ever been one criteria - monthly win-rates of ALL tournaments. If the MU margins remain outside 50% for many months then Blizzard patches accordingly. So Protoss won't be getting buffed anytime soon lol. If you read my earlier post it answers your last question, inferring where Protoss must be dominating, which shows in the results on the wiki pages. It explains why you can't do anything about it.
@hivetech4903 Money made matters because professional star craft is a profession, which means that this is people's livelihoods. If someone like serral who has made over 1 million usd is competeing with someone who needs a second job because they don't make enough to do starcraft full time then serral will always have a snowballing advantage of time to practice and experience meaning the other person needs to perform significantly better than normal to get the same results. By criteria matters because there are weekly tournaments for each league, meaning low-level metal league wins that are more based on not making a massive blunder which skew balance results. The higher the grade, the better the results show balance and not just, oh yeah, that person was supply blocked for 5 minutes of a 7 minute game. If we include bronze games in balance concerns where someone is floating more minerals than they have spent all game, then that isn't an analysis of balance, but of mmr which will always balance out eventually. Blizzard isn't responsible for balance anymore, and patches tend to be released about a year apart by the balance councils. There are also ways to buff protoss without making them dominant everywhere else. For example, giving them more vision options is a buff that wouldn't really help low-level players but would help people like astrea and maxpax. Giving them a door would be a universal buff that might require a nerf to go along with it. And I don't mean a sentry force field. And yeah, I don't think we should make protoss op, but maybe not quite so brittle would be nice.
Am i wrong or adrenal lings rush + safety roaches can keep you safe from almost everything (except for air units for sure...but queens+spores will deal easily on early/mid game)
Oh Nightmare :( As a casual SC player, watching Nightmare v Byun not only got me into this channel, but into trying to learn how to play well! Nightmare is so fun to watch, but sadly inflexible a lot of the time. Maybe one day Protoss will actually win :,)
Friendly note to all viewers, please get creative with yer after match insights in the comments to not spoil the series for others. (Ex. I can't believe how Spaghett! spooked that guy at such and such time frame)
Since Jay's comment is not here yet. But I need to continue: 3 likes on this comment's comment and I'll comment another Jay's comment. And I'll probably do it anyway!
As a terran, I know I'm contractually obligated to hate protoss to the grave but even I can't deny the absolute utter sickness that was Nightmare's body block blink on the ultras at 13:55.
That 3rd game shows that zerg w/o spellcasters is at least 2 times stronger than protoss w/o spellcastes. And with spellcasters zerg is still much stronger. Time for some protoss buffs. It's dumb watching TvZs in the finals of every tournament.
There are exactly 60 likes on this comment at the moment, so I don't want to like it now :) PS, there isn't a Jimmy is there... I'm late to the party :)
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You know you've made it to the top tier when Winter makes you a hearthstone card. Congrats Nightmare!
Meaning of DRG:
D-
R- Refusal to build energy based spellcaster that isn't a queen
G-
D - Definite
Now we need someone to come up with a G
Well you can add another G
He's turning into Brenda with that short term memory loss
Now that you mention it, he can't even fly 🤔
Oh Nightmare... the first game, a masterclass. The second, a hard-fought disaster. The third... flashes of brilliance, only for DRG to just steamroller him at the end.
Perfect use of Stasis... just... without robo units ready and on the field, it wasn't even close to enough.
Thanks for the good games for the fans, Winter.
This is some of the gameplay of all time
Every time I glance up at the production tab I'm like, "Oh, sure. 30 more lings. That makes sense. Why would I expect anything else?"
When will DRG finally be renamed The Lord of the Lings?? So accurate
"Like and subscribe so I can afford help" 🤣
DRG is so fun to watch and embodies the spirit of why i wanted to learn and play zerg. there is just nothing more satisfying or zerg-y than watching a swarm of lings do their things. and once lings completed doing their things and they are no more...you dont even care because you can replace 1 million lings per second anyways.
i mean, yes there are some tech unis and they are useful but man...
THE SWARM is why i love zerg
Was not sure what to expect from these two. Must say, pretty entertaining series
Thanks!
that second game with that terrible blink of all those stalkers into the zerglings what such a grand mistake...
appreciate u winter. Alot. Plz keep it coming.
Nightmare, master of sleep 40:31
Yes another video. I am addicted to these. 😂
DONG RAE GU
DONG RAE GU
DONG RAE GU
DRG might be my sole motivation to play this game. You really can just play like that and still be quite good, if you know what you're doing
Ahhh nothing like waking up with a cup of coffee and some high level sc2 right in the morning
A couple great Ling flanks on the Stalkers in that last game.
And yet, when he had all the time in the world to set one up, at 40:45, he doesn't...
🤷♂
the match was entertaining and the commentary too.
DRG is a madman and Nightmare shows high iq with low execution sometimes
"Like and subscribe so that I can afford help"
Haha first time i laughed out loud openly in front of a browser ^^
Oh no age is starting to take affect
Thank You
Om nom nom
The only thing that makes me happier than PvZ that ends in mass carriers is PvT that ends with mass carriers/tempest.
Why go mass blink vs +3 only cracklings ?! ^^
Blink stalkers are one of the few protoss units that can keep up with cracklings, speedwise, and can (sort of) kite as long as there's a critical mass. Those, along with oracle stasis traps, are not meant to counter the lings, they're meant to buy time for stronger units (robo or storm templar) to hit the field
A better question is why wasn't he making colossi instead of immortals. Yeah, he knows the ultras are coming, but blink stalkers do great against ultras if there's enough of them, however, the mass cracklings are going to prove a serious problem for both the immortals and the stalkers. I would chalk it up to nerves/panic - literally no one but DRG does mass lings these days.
I realized literally the only Protoss to have won a series is herO.
Maxpax surely won something
Yet Protoss is still winning the most tournaments overall. You can try explaining to metal league players the reason that if you buff Protoss to perform equally in Katowice, then 99% of GM would be Protoss, GM's would stop playing so there would be no-one interested in Katowice. Metal league players just don't get it lol.
@hivetech4903 over what time period? By what criteria? Because based off of money made protoss is ridiculously behind. At what level of tournament?
@@Wwillswords The game has been very well balanced every month for the past year or so, and the most recent month Protoss is slightly ahead in both PvZ & PvT.
It looks like you don't know where the official monthly Balance Report is?
What has "money made" got to do with anything? Why would you ask "by what criteria?"
There has only ever been one criteria - monthly win-rates of ALL tournaments. If the MU margins remain outside 50% for many months then Blizzard patches accordingly. So Protoss won't be getting buffed anytime soon lol.
If you read my earlier post it answers your last question, inferring where Protoss must be dominating, which shows in the results on the wiki pages. It explains why you can't do anything about it.
@hivetech4903 Money made matters because professional star craft is a profession, which means that this is people's livelihoods. If someone like serral who has made over 1 million usd is competeing with someone who needs a second job because they don't make enough to do starcraft full time then serral will always have a snowballing advantage of time to practice and experience meaning the other person needs to perform significantly better than normal to get the same results.
By criteria matters because there are weekly tournaments for each league, meaning low-level metal league wins that are more based on not making a massive blunder which skew balance results. The higher the grade, the better the results show balance and not just, oh yeah, that person was supply blocked for 5 minutes of a 7 minute game. If we include bronze games in balance concerns where someone is floating more minerals than they have spent all game, then that isn't an analysis of balance, but of mmr which will always balance out eventually.
Blizzard isn't responsible for balance anymore, and patches tend to be released about a year apart by the balance councils. There are also ways to buff protoss without making them dominant everywhere else. For example, giving them more vision options is a buff that wouldn't really help low-level players but would help people like astrea and maxpax. Giving them a door would be a universal buff that might require a nerf to go along with it. And I don't mean a sentry force field. And yeah, I don't think we should make protoss op, but maybe not quite so brittle would be nice.
Zealots in game 3: “am i a joke to you?”
That was great :)
DRG is the new Dark
comon Winter it wasnt just ultra ling bane at 40.m mark a couple of ravagers were involved to
Do the stat cards actually represent a game modified?
Jimmy! Put em on camera, Winter!
Am i wrong or adrenal lings rush + safety roaches can keep you safe from almost everything (except for air units for sure...but queens+spores will deal easily on early/mid game)
Doing something cool and winning game 1 into the 1-2 series loss is the Protoss ultimate true combo
Oh Nightmare :(
As a casual SC player, watching Nightmare v Byun not only got me into this channel, but into trying to learn how to play well! Nightmare is so fun to watch, but sadly inflexible a lot of the time. Maybe one day Protoss will actually win :,)
where is the 300 Supply from the thumbnail?
You're okay buddy, it's just DRG
“Like and subscribe so I can afford help” 😅
Fine, have it
Has anyone noticed that ultralisks still suck?
Winter is the best SC2 streamer so entertaining
DRG my man
I typically think of Ultras as the fanciest way to lose the game but DRG made them look so good.
Friendly note to all viewers, please get creative with yer after match insights in the comments to not spoil the series for others. (Ex. I can't believe how Spaghett! spooked that guy at such and such time frame)
The videoqualitiy is very bad. I can t change rhe video settings
Don Ragu strikes again?
Since Jay's comment is not here yet. But I need to continue: 3 likes on this comment's comment and I'll comment another Jay's comment. And I'll probably do it anyway!
well is it fair if i eat a very nicely baked pizza and he eats raw dog ? he clearly has the upper hand in a 1v1
You telling me a Dong Rae'd this Gu?
Que bueno DRG, aunque me hubiera gustado que ganara el Protoss.
Immortals for the win!
Two bots, no proper comments - here's one to at least make the ratio 2:1
The first player literally looks like an older version of the second, wtf?
I beat the bots like a bronze league hero.
As a terran, I know I'm contractually obligated to hate protoss to the grave but even I can't deny the absolute utter sickness that was Nightmare's body block blink on the ultras at 13:55.
Liked so you can get help winter, already subbed 👍
If there's more Winter Glitching, he can run for US President!
"If it doesn't scratch with claws, then that's a flaw." -DRG probably.
the dong! jimmy be more PC... hahaha most pro!
That 3rd game shows that zerg w/o spellcasters is at least 2 times stronger than protoss w/o spellcastes. And with spellcasters zerg is still much stronger. Time for some protoss buffs. It's dumb watching TvZs in the finals of every tournament.
Aligulac reports this month's PvZ tournament balance at 53%... slightly Protoss favored 😂l2p.
The shear number of larva you need to produce in order to play DRG's style of zerg is kind of mindboggling.
60 likes on this comment and I’ll comment on another video… aaaaand I’ll probably do it anyway. Thank you for reading! JIMMY!
If i get 8 likes on this reply, i’ll reply to another comment because truly, is there anything else in life?
*th-the fans like it, Jimmy!*
I like how this comment is always on top. I would like and subscribe if possible
3 likes on this comment's comment and I'll comment another Jay's comment. And I'll probably do it anyway!
@@sample_sam9045shut up
There are exactly 60 likes on this comment at the moment, so I don't want to like it now :)
PS, there isn't a Jimmy is there... I'm late to the party :)
When he says "just.. a little bit better.. 🥵
2 much misscontroll = low pro players
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