I wanted to thank you for the tip. Today I picked up my 24’ Street Glide. I had added Stage 2 Faring speakers and Stage 3 Sddlebag speakers, so there was no way I would listen to music on my SENA. I had heard about the Maedhawk on another channel, it I learned about the BClink on your post. I also began watching your posts, because you have some topics near and dear to me, like the OS upgrade. Thank you for your through posts, they are great and appreciated.
@@ITFZone as I posted on your “Winter” video, I did run into a problem, these 24’s are sooo touchy. I detached the Maedhawk temporarily to see if it caused my issue with no sound after a couple hours of working perfectly or it’s something else. I’ll keep you posted.
For CarPlay as long as a headset is connected it should stay working. So you might keep you device manager screen open and see if the headset is dropping out or the headset icon is going dim. I have noticed with the bike connected to my personal hotspot my music was clipping and then would work for awhile to clip again. To me a map update may have been downloading or just the WIFI connection is in the way. @@alanincentraljersey
@@ITFZone I will keep an eye on that ITFZ and let you know. Thanks again. I did see the headphone icon at all times, but I didn’t have the Device Manager open at all times. Once I had no sound, I tried unsuccessfully while I was riding to get anything Audio working, but there was no sound coming from FM either, so I assumed the fuse was blown. It wasn’t blown per se, but it did have to be reset.
Thanks to you (and this and all your excellent videos), I just started using CarPlay; and somehow, it works perfectly for me now. As noted, the SENA headset and the iPhone must be bluetooth paired to the bike (but NOT to each other!!). With the motorcycle off, I plug my iPhone into the USB in the glovebox, and tuck it in (I'm using my old 11Pro as an iPod, no longer an active phone line; and I turn bluetooth off on my new iPhone). Still with the bike off, I turn on the headset. Then I switch the ignition to the on position, and I watch the boot-up sequence... I wait until the system recognizes the phone connection with a message, and then the SENA 50S with a message; and then CarPlay (magically) starts by itself. And then, after all that, I hit the start button. And it's working!!
About the wireless CarPlay, I had a similar issue with a wireless dongle and the solution turned out to be setting the dongle software with a 10 second delay before it actually boots up. The issue is the HD BoomGTS isn’t all booted up before the wifi connection would start. Not sure if you can adjust CarPlay delay start on the 2023 CVO but this may place you on a road to resolving the inconsistent startup issue.
Yes its a combo of headset first, bluetooth and then WIFI. My hope is that the device manager can be changed to look for devices in this order. Supposedly there are some fixes in the '24 version of the software but not seen any confirmation if these fixes work or not.
I will not buy a CVO if it will not connect to my android phone . I am planning on buying a new 24 Street Glide Special if it comes with the new large dash . However , if I can not use Android Auto , no way am I going to spend that much money for a brand new 24 Harley if I can not use Android Auto to ride across the country using GPS ETC . I currently connect my android phone from inside my saddlebag using a wireless dongle . Works perfect . My current bike is a 21 Street Glide Special .
It does appear that Google is not supporting motorcycles going forward, none of the new bikes have it like Honda, BMW or Indian. However I don't think an official Google announcement has ever been found so really not sure what the issue is. The good thing is that it would be software so I would bet if it does become possible we will see it appear on these new bikes. I do think the built in system works well for navigation and it fills the most the screen vs just being in a square box. But I agree with you its all frustrating!
Don't hold your breath for the new screen and Android Auto compatibility. It's not going to come that way from the factory. The only possible solution for Android users wanting to use Android Auto is going to be the aftermarket.
Not a big CarPlay fan. Wanted a 2D view of the map not 3D. CarPlay does that. Then I found, if you zoom out using your two little fingers it will go 2D on the CVO Nav, but you're out so far you can't distinguish street names, etc. So CarPlay it is. I have never lost connection. The map or music stays there until I turn it off. @@ITFZone
Interesting. I haven't tried, but heard you can use car play wireless if you have HD WHIM set up with no issues. IMO Harley rushed this new CVO before all the kinks worked out. Luke from Fueling has a video where his 23 CVO was leaking oil around the VVT cover on his trip to Sturgis. I guess time will tell. Still a very sweet bike, hopefully will have fixes soon. Thanks for your content!
I am not aware of the WHIM supporting wireless CarPlay, it only supports a wireless headset. You can purchase the CarPlay hack on Amazon that provides the WIFI network capabilities to the Boom systems. John on his Cycle Fanatix channel has information about it. www.youtube.com/@CYCLEFANATIX
Tom - Really appreciate your videos! I just picked up my 23 CVO SG and am trying to figure everything out. It appears I've paired my iphone to the bike. It also appears that i've paired the Sens 50S headset as well. My question is: can i charge both my SENA and my Iphone at the same time? DO you have a recommendation on how to split the USB C on the bike into 2 with an adapter? Thanks!
Yes! See this video: ua-cam.com/video/hBWlt_4YN6I/v-deo.html I have confirmed the USB C port on the adapter will charge your Sena and the USB A will charge your phone. However I would recommend considering a USB headset adapter noted in this video: ua-cam.com/video/XVWmEA81fo0/v-deo.html Will require a lot less storage space.
@@ITFZone - thanks Tom! I having difficulties getting the Apple Maps to work, the Apple Music app keeps cutting out, the factory nav forgets where I am and when I switch to FM there’s no sound! Other than that, the system works great! 😂
Wow after the update. I have noticed the sound cutting out when my phone is busy or I think possibly the embedded maps may be updating while the NAV is open. I have not had any sourcing issues after the update but limited time with it for sure.@@Dandre01
what a bummer. I have a '21 Touring bike, a Cardo headset, and an Android phone and it has always worked great. This past year I even added into the mix a wireless adapter so that it all connects automatically. It works great with Android Auto. I know on the new CVO Harley says that Android is not supported, but it's ironic how many videos I see with people trying to do hacks and jumpers to get Carplay to work. How frustrating that the new state of the art CVO head unit is dysfunctional with this. Maybe Apple is the problem, who knows, good luck with this.
I think much of the issue with all automobile and now motorcycle companies is that none of them are software companies. They are teaming up with vendors that are in between Apple and Google. I also think for whatever reason Harley released the CVO's early. The Boom sure caused frustration and later became known as mostly reliable so hopefully will see some updates and improvements. For all vehicle manufactures I think we need a true software company to create a common operating system. But currently its the wild west as each tries to get the bigger better screen with their logo embedded into the experience. Appreciate your comment!
On my side, I have a headset connected to the bike, iPhone connected with bluetooth and cable but the sound refuses to go through the headset only through speakers 😭 I’ll try with only cable. Cvo 2023 street glide
When do you think if you could guess when they will come out with the patch to remove the bike to look for a headset and just allow CarPlay to boot? The old gen with the boom first use to require the headset before allowing CarPlay but the dealers ended up getting a patch for it. Hoping Harley can come out with a patch for it so we don’t need to keep using the headset
The response from HDMC is that this an IOS requirement and nothing to do with the infotainment OS. Time will tell but my gut says this requirement will remain in place. I would like to see Google help the android users out with an update to allow Android!
@@ITFZone yes but older models (I had a 22) dealers could add the patch and it would not look for headset. I think Harley needs to create one for the new systems
Yes you can use any Bluetooth headset with the new infotainment system. There are no limitations and all features work with any headset option. Headset is REQUIRED to get CarPlay to open.
Can we use (and get familiar with) Apple CarPlay turning on Accessories Mode? Or must be ignition switch on? Can we still see the tachometer while using CarPlay?
Ah great call out! I am using CarPlay wirelessly and leaving the headset on the USB connection. Works great as long as I don't have Bluetooth turned on. I suspect a USB splitter that support charging would work but it may not allow the CarPlay data to pass through. On my list to test!
I have ordered a couple of USBC splitter options but I also am thinking we could just use the battery tender connecter with an SAE to USB adapter. Plug your headset into this and just secure it under the seat. Example: amzn.to/4aPp7yk
No WHIM in this bike or cable to jumper. The new infotainment system is really a self contained unit. The belief is that this an Apple requirement and there is no current way to get around it. Appreciate your channel and your service!
Hi T, hope are doing well. I’m really struggling. I took the BCLink off and just added the Maedhawk, because with the BCL, I keep losing sound and had to pull the main fuse. I just got my sound back on, without the Meadhawk. I’ll try adding it back in in the morning. Do you have any idea why the Maedhawk is causing the sound to go out on me? Thank you. Alan
If the bike is changing the routing to speakers or the MaedHawk is losing power would be my initial thought. Do you see the headset icon on the screen go dim? I have not had this issue thus far. If it works directly to the bike I would verify it works out of the USB A port on the BCLink. Process of elimination here. Easier to troubleshoot via email: ITFZoneEmail@gmail.com
@@ITFZone update, I deleted the MaedHawk and phone, reinstalled them both and then uninstalled the phone and reinstalled it and it worked. I ride for 2 hours and no issues. Thank you for the reply.
I am having trouble with google through my head set on my cvo . When it announces a turn, it makes a loud crack I can’t work it out.Why is this happening?can you show the setup for the sound that you are using. Thanks
Not with the stock screens. You can Bluetooth connect your android phone to any of them and use the built in OS. Which is what I have opted for even though I have an iPhone.
I wanted to thank you for the tip. Today I picked up my 24’ Street Glide. I had added Stage 2 Faring speakers and Stage 3 Sddlebag speakers, so there was no way I would listen to music on my SENA. I had heard about the Maedhawk on another channel, it I learned about the BClink on your post. I also began watching your posts, because you have some topics near and dear to me, like the OS upgrade.
Thank you for your through posts, they are great and appreciated.
You are most welcome, I think the technology of these bikes is my niche. I truly enjoying trying to help the community so don't hesitate to reach out!
@@ITFZone as I posted on your “Winter” video, I did run into a problem, these 24’s are sooo touchy. I detached the Maedhawk temporarily to see if it caused my issue with no sound after a couple hours of working perfectly or it’s something else. I’ll keep you posted.
For CarPlay as long as a headset is connected it should stay working. So you might keep you device manager screen open and see if the headset is dropping out or the headset icon is going dim. I have noticed with the bike connected to my personal hotspot my music was clipping and then would work for awhile to clip again. To me a map update may have been downloading or just the WIFI connection is in the way.
@@alanincentraljersey
@@ITFZone I will keep an eye on that ITFZ and let you know. Thanks again. I did see the headphone icon at all times, but I didn’t have the Device Manager open at all times. Once I had no sound, I tried unsuccessfully while I was riding to get anything Audio working, but there was no sound coming from FM either, so I assumed the fuse was blown. It wasn’t blown per se, but it did have to be reset.
@@ITFZone your passion is very obvious and we are all lucky to have you in out corner.
Thanks to you (and this and all your excellent videos), I just started using CarPlay; and somehow, it works perfectly for me now. As noted, the SENA headset and the iPhone must be bluetooth paired to the bike (but NOT to each other!!). With the motorcycle off, I plug my iPhone into the USB in the glovebox, and tuck it in (I'm using my old 11Pro as an iPod, no longer an active phone line; and I turn bluetooth off on my new iPhone). Still with the bike off, I turn on the headset. Then I switch the ignition to the on position, and I watch the boot-up sequence... I wait until the system recognizes the phone connection with a message, and then the SENA 50S with a message; and then CarPlay (magically) starts by itself. And then, after all that, I hit the start button. And it's working!!
The order in which devices are powered on is key, but really it should not be so picky. I have hope we will see improvements here!
And again, thank you very much for going deep down the rabbit hole for all of us!
Of course! Hope you get your bike back soon!
Changing iPhone wifi setting to auto-join the bike’s access point “H-D Ride_####” will help wireless CarPlay connectivity issues.
Agree!
Appreciate the 2023 CVO content. Please keep it coming!
You are welcome, stay tuned!
thanks for your videos pal! there are awsome and so fruitful for me
You are most welcome! Appreciate your support of the channel!
About the wireless CarPlay, I had a similar issue with a wireless dongle and the solution turned out to be setting the dongle software with a 10 second delay before it actually boots up. The issue is the HD BoomGTS isn’t all booted up before the wifi connection would start. Not sure if you can adjust CarPlay delay start on the 2023 CVO but this may place you on a road to resolving the inconsistent startup issue.
Yes its a combo of headset first, bluetooth and then WIFI. My hope is that the device manager can be changed to look for devices in this order. Supposedly there are some fixes in the '24 version of the software but not seen any confirmation if these fixes work or not.
Thanks so much for the advice. I’m sure this will be a big help for all of us. Your the man and love following your page😊😊
Awesome! Appreciate your support of the channel!
I will not buy a CVO if it will not connect to my android phone . I am planning on buying a new 24 Street Glide Special if it comes with the new large dash . However , if I can not use Android Auto , no way am I going to spend that much money for a brand new 24 Harley if I can not use Android Auto to ride across the country using GPS ETC . I currently connect my android phone from inside my saddlebag using a wireless dongle . Works perfect . My current bike is a 21 Street Glide Special .
It does appear that Google is not supporting motorcycles going forward, none of the new bikes have it like Honda, BMW or Indian. However I don't think an official Google announcement has ever been found so really not sure what the issue is. The good thing is that it would be software so I would bet if it does become possible we will see it appear on these new bikes. I do think the built in system works well for navigation and it fills the most the screen vs just being in a square box. But I agree with you its all frustrating!
Don't hold your breath for the new screen and Android Auto compatibility. It's not going to come that way from the factory. The only possible solution for Android users wanting to use Android Auto is going to be the aftermarket.
Hi Tom, great information again, thanks. BTW, I connect to via blu ray and have not had any connection problems using car play.
It's not consistent for sure. If you are a CarPlay fan I advise disconnecting the BlueTooth connection.
Not a big CarPlay fan. Wanted a 2D view of the map not 3D. CarPlay does that. Then I found, if you zoom out using your two little fingers it will go 2D on the CVO Nav, but you're out so far you can't distinguish street names, etc. So CarPlay it is. I have never lost connection. The map or music stays there until I turn it off. @@ITFZone
Excellent! What are you using for a headset?
Cardo Edge @@ITFZone
Interesting. I haven't tried, but heard you can use car play wireless if you have HD WHIM set up with no issues. IMO Harley rushed this new CVO before all the kinks worked out. Luke from Fueling has a video where his 23 CVO was leaking oil around the VVT cover on his trip to Sturgis.
I guess time will tell. Still a very sweet bike, hopefully will have fixes soon. Thanks for your content!
I am not aware of the WHIM supporting wireless CarPlay, it only supports a wireless headset. You can purchase the CarPlay hack on Amazon that provides the WIFI network capabilities to the Boom systems. John on his Cycle Fanatix channel has information about it. www.youtube.com/@CYCLEFANATIX
Tom - Really appreciate your videos! I just picked up my 23 CVO SG and am trying to figure everything out. It appears I've paired my iphone to the bike. It also appears that i've paired the Sens 50S headset as well. My question is: can i charge both my SENA and my Iphone at the same time? DO you have a recommendation on how to split the USB C on the bike into 2 with an adapter? Thanks!
Yes! See this video: ua-cam.com/video/hBWlt_4YN6I/v-deo.html I have confirmed the USB C port on the adapter will charge your Sena and the USB A will charge your phone. However I would recommend considering a USB headset adapter noted in this video: ua-cam.com/video/XVWmEA81fo0/v-deo.html Will require a lot less storage space.
@@ITFZone - thanks Tom! I having difficulties getting the Apple Maps to work, the Apple Music app keeps cutting out, the factory nav forgets where I am and when I switch to FM there’s no sound! Other than that, the system works great! 😂
Wow after the update. I have noticed the sound cutting out when my phone is busy or I think possibly the embedded maps may be updating while the NAV is open. I have not had any sourcing issues after the update but limited time with it for sure.@@Dandre01
what a bummer. I have a '21 Touring bike, a Cardo headset, and an Android phone and it has always worked great. This past year I even added into the mix a wireless adapter so that it all connects automatically. It works great with Android Auto. I know on the new CVO Harley says that Android is not supported, but it's ironic how many videos I see with people trying to do hacks and jumpers to get Carplay to work. How frustrating that the new state of the art CVO head unit is dysfunctional with this. Maybe Apple is the problem, who knows, good luck with this.
I think much of the issue with all automobile and now motorcycle companies is that none of them are software companies. They are teaming up with vendors that are in between Apple and Google. I also think for whatever reason Harley released the CVO's early. The Boom sure caused frustration and later became known as mostly reliable so hopefully will see some updates and improvements. For all vehicle manufactures I think we need a true software company to create a common operating system. But currently its the wild west as each tries to get the bigger better screen with their logo embedded into the experience. Appreciate your comment!
On my side, I have a headset connected to the bike, iPhone connected with bluetooth and cable but the sound refuses to go through the headset only through speakers 😭 I’ll try with only cable. Cvo 2023 street glide
You want to change the audio routing to headset vs speaker. When music is playing tap the gear icon (Settings).
When do you think if you could guess when they will come out with the patch to remove the bike to look for a headset and just allow CarPlay to boot? The old gen with the boom first use to require the headset before allowing CarPlay but the dealers ended up getting a patch for it. Hoping Harley can come out with a patch for it so we don’t need to keep using the headset
The response from HDMC is that this an IOS requirement and nothing to do with the infotainment OS. Time will tell but my gut says this requirement will remain in place. I would like to see Google help the android users out with an update to allow Android!
@@ITFZone yes but older models (I had a 22) dealers could add the patch and it would not look for headset. I think Harley needs to create one for the new systems
Only if we could get our hands on a digital technician tool! If the opportunity comes up I will inquire..
Can you confirm if the new stereo works with a non-HD branded SENA? My current bike (2019) requires a Harley branded Sena to work properly.
Yes you can use any Bluetooth headset with the new infotainment system. There are no limitations and all features work with any headset option. Headset is REQUIRED to get CarPlay to open.
Can we use (and get familiar with) Apple CarPlay turning on Accessories Mode? Or must be ignition switch on? Can we still see the tachometer while using CarPlay?
For sure you can play CarPlay in accessory mode and yes you still get a tachometer when using it, smaller version but its there.
Love the video thank you. How are you charging the HD BT Headset and plugging in the phone for carplay at the same time?
Ah great call out! I am using CarPlay wirelessly and leaving the headset on the USB connection. Works great as long as I don't have Bluetooth turned on. I suspect a USB splitter that support charging would work but it may not allow the CarPlay data to pass through. On my list to test!
I have ordered a couple of USBC splitter options but I also am thinking we could just use the battery tender connecter with an SAE to USB adapter. Plug your headset into this and just secure it under the seat. Example: amzn.to/4aPp7yk
Does the jumper not work ? This way you don’t need the whim
No WHIM in this bike or cable to jumper. The new infotainment system is really a self contained unit. The belief is that this an Apple requirement and there is no current way to get around it. Appreciate your channel and your service!
@@ITFZone thx for getting back with me ! Keep up the grind
Hi T, hope are doing well.
I’m really struggling. I took the BCLink off and just added the Maedhawk, because with the BCL, I keep losing sound and had to pull the main fuse. I just got my sound back on, without the Meadhawk. I’ll try adding it back in in the morning.
Do you have any idea why the Maedhawk is causing the sound to go out on me?
Thank you. Alan
If the bike is changing the routing to speakers or the MaedHawk is losing power would be my initial thought. Do you see the headset icon on the screen go dim? I have not had this issue thus far. If it works directly to the bike I would verify it works out of the USB A port on the BCLink. Process of elimination here. Easier to troubleshoot via email: ITFZoneEmail@gmail.com
@@ITFZone update, I deleted the MaedHawk and phone, reinstalled them both and then uninstalled the phone and reinstalled it and it worked. I ride for 2 hours and no issues.
Thank you for the reply.
Good to know. I am not sure why Bluetooth is so difficult with the bike vs a car.
It is puzzling@@ITFZone
I am having trouble with google through my head set on my cvo . When it announces a turn, it makes a loud crack I can’t work it out.Why is this happening?can you show the setup for the sound that you are using. Thanks
Yes I had this issue initially as well. I lowered the headset volume. Under Settings, select sound then application volume.
Thanks it worked
Good info again... If you can critique an Android connection??? BTW I finally got a vin# on my order
Congrats, the VIN implies it’s on its way! Enjoy that first ride!
I hope so... BTW If you ever get to the geographic middle of California we will have to meetup and have a beverage or two..@@ITFZone
I will be LA first week of the year, offer stands if you ever find your way to Colorado.
Hi, is there a system to use Android Auto?
Not with the stock screens. You can Bluetooth connect your android phone to any of them and use the built in OS. Which is what I have opted for even though I have an iPhone.