End of the line for a cheap Lloyd's mid '70's console stereo
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- I thought this would take up more than one video; but, I decided to edit everything together and make it into one video.
I'm not a fan of destroying a piece of vintage electronics just for the thrill of it; but, some things from back then are, for whatever reason, not worth saving. This cheap Lloyd's stereo console from the mid '70's was one such item.
When I went to look at this, all I knew was that the guy had an "old console stereo" and he couldn't tell me much about it. It could have been a nice tube console from the '60's or it could have been, well, a cheap '70's Lloyd's. As you can see, it turned out to be a Lloyd's.
I figured that there might be some parts I could use; so, I took it. While we were loading / unloading it, pieces fell off the cabinet and we left a trail of sawdust. I wasn't too surprised, as I've seen this happen alot on many brands of cheap '70's consoles.
After getting it to the building, I discover some LP's left in the record storage compartment. Oh, good! Maybe there's some '60's/'70's music of interest here; but, no, it was all the likes of Jimmy Swaggart and other locally produced gospel records. I'm sure they are good if you like that kind of music; but, I'm not much into that style of gospel music.
Looking at the cabinet, I decided that it would not be worth saving because there's not much you can do with particleboard once it turns to dust.
Just for the heck of it, I plugged it in. Radio worked with noisy controls and some obvious bad capacitors, 8-track was dead and the record changer was frozen (no surprise there).
Even though the speakers are cheap, I saved them for use in radio repairs. I also saved the BSR record changer because I can free it up and use it in something else.
The cabinet was no problem to break down. Just a few hard pushes and a few hard kicks was all it took. It was put out to the street and the garbage man has already gotten it out of my life.
It amazes me when I see the number of people trying to sell these cheap things on CL for hundreds of dollars; when, they are not worth over $25 in good shape.
Had the cabinet been in solid condition on this one, I would have probably fixed it; but, in the shape the cabinet was in, it would have been a waste of time.
If you want a quality console, get something made between the mid '50's and the late '60's. Those usually had real wooden cabinets, better electronics, and better speaker systems.
By the early '70's, consoles were starting to fall off in popularity and the ones that were available were usually housed in cheap cabinets with overall cheap imported electronics. Magnavox, Zenith, and RCA still made consoles that were better than this cheap imported junk; but, they were still not as good as pre-1970 models.
If it's from the '70's and branded as Soundesign, Morse, Electrophonic, Juliette, Lloyd's, Truetone, Sears, Emerson, Dumont, Capehart, etc; then, leave it alone.
I love you and Shango 66 because you salvage these relics and keep them out of the landfills and give them.new life
Lloyds was sold in Canada, they went under in the 80s. Mostly cheap stuff. We had candle too. The joke was I walked by it and it blew out
That Elvis record was probably the only one worth having; but, I already have a copy and gave this one, along with the other records, away.
I had a stereo like that when I was 16. My neighbor was throwing it away. It was a console TV with a tuner and turntable but the television was gone. My parents weren't too happy when I dragged it home but the stereo worked fine and had good sound. My parents wouldn't have allowed me to have a TV in my room anyway. I wasn't even allowed to have my radio on after ten PM. Compared to parents these days my parents were pretty strict.
Lol my radio had to be off 11
Hey, thanks for the descriptive phrases! I answer to many names! I'm well aware that these record changers are in demand. Why do you think I saved the one out of this stereo? Next time, pay attention and you might actually know what's going on. And, BTW, I also saved the speakers, as well. I think there's some sawdust left on my basement floor from this stereo. Please tell me if you think that's valuable before I sweep it out in the yard.
Lmaaaaooooo.
What a P.O.S.! Deserving end to it. It's the 1970's Crosley equivalent!
I have a 1963 RCA console with tubes and turntable with Am/FM radeo. I put new tubes in it in 1992 and cleaned up the chassis. It has 12" woofers and 4" tweeters. It still works like a champ! I also have a 1964 Magnavox console with transistor chassis. It still works fine
I wasn't going to mention it; but, I found a dollar bill with some woman's phone number on it stuffed inside one of the Jimmy Swaggert records.
Hilarious!😂
please tell what followed
I had a Lloyds am/fm portable radio. My mom bought it for me because I kept confiscating hers. From about age 11until I was 16,when I finally wore it out. Every night I used it for DXing on AM. Cheapish, but I gave it a real workout!!
Judging by the records, they bought a Lloyds and PRAYED for a Magnavox! ;)
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My grandmother had every Jimmy Swaggart album ever sold. You can't go through boxes of albums at thrift stores and not find at least a few mixed in. That guy always gave me the "creeps". Always kind of reminded me of Jim Jones.
yeah guy had acreepy reputation years on !!!!
If only she would have done that with Elvis or Beatles albums and not Jimmy Swaggart
Thanks for the comment and I am a member of ARF.
I would keep that Elvis Presley How Great Thou Art album.
The Elvis record looked like it was the only one that had been played, the rest belong at a church jumble sale for someone to buy and give to someone else who'll never play them.
i found a 1960's $20 bill in an old christmas album i got a thrift shop,so now i always look in the covers for money,lol
BSR's get stuck sometimes, with some cleaning, they happen to be vey good quality turntables.
BSRs maybe robust, they're not the best on performance, I now play my 78s on a DJ tt an AT-LP120
I had already repaired a Lloyd's stereo console that has that turntable (BSR) jam! So, I had only used some WD40 and turned the turntable manually and the turntable has been fixed! This console has a beautiful finish despite dammage at its base!
I love your honesty on this piece of crap. (And it was). Great video.
As for any of this middle class debris I've long been disinclined to do repairs on any of it. I recently dug out the equipment to troubleshoot a stereo for a member of a church for which I occasionally tune pianos. The member pleaded with me, and I looked at a Sears console with a big composition cabinet like you show here. The power transformer I can ball my fist around. I said to the guy after a brief examinating, "I can fix it for you for $350 MINIMUM. I would like you to take a couple of weeks and think about it. And after a couple of weeks don't do it!" He certainly recoiled at the figure I gave, and said I was right for him to give it thought. The console belonged to his recently departed father, and it did have some sentimental value. He waited only a week, and then called me back in. I did the work, collected the agreed amount, and to the best of my knowledge it still plays as well as it ever did. That's not saying much...
Dude, you are funny. Love your honesty
LOL This guy trips me out, I agree with him on the cheap crap. I knew that when I was a kid and i'm 39 now, I always steered clear of the cheap crap. Always saved for something good! Save your money people and buy quality!
To that console, I say Aaaaaaaa Men! There weren't enough gospel records and tapes made to overcome the devil inside. Ever notice the correlation between the brand of the console and the records inside it? Of the crazy number of Magnavox consoles I've rescued, only one had Gospel LPs in it, most have classical or "show off your stereo" LPs in them.
Speaking of Lloyds, i happen to own two Lloyds alarm clocks. One of them, i got from a thrift store for $6 and the other i got from a flea market for $2
They do have a bit of a cheap feel, but at least they both perform and work better than the crappy modern alarm clock both units replaced. Both have excellent radio reception and have a pretty loud max volume that either can be heard across the hallway when the alarm goes off.
I'll probably make a video of them one day.
Back in the 1980s I was doing tech work for 3 stores and a TV repair shop, and one of the stores was sending me Soundesign and RJMacDonald stuff for warranty repair. The repair bulletins for those brans would have recommended procedures that were atrocious. One that sticks in my mind was for tape record bias failure on cassette sections of several models of compact stereos. The procedure involved bypassing the dead oscillator and running direct current to the head coils for DC bias. Phooey on that; I never would do such shoddy work. BTW the store paid me for my work, but stopped doing service work eventually, because neither company would reimburse for the repair expenses--not one dime!
I love those 80s replica cathedral radios I try to buy them at flea markets,thrift stores and garage sales I modify them to be used as extension speakers if the electronics are fried in them. They still make great conversation pieces'!!!!!
At first I cringed when you threw the records on the floor like that, but then I realized you had a bunch of skeet targets.
I'm not a fan of modern junk, but the BSR turntable is pretty cool. Thanks to Fisher, the company thay made stereo amplifiers, consoles and receivers as well as this one. The company was founded by audio enthusiest and NY Philharmonic member Avery Fisher. He also founded the Avery Fisher Hall at Lincoln Center, and that's what the name "The Fisher" came from.
out of all those records the Elvis one is pretty good I have a copy
+James Blomberg "How Great Thou Art" was a decent album by Elvis. It features "Crying in the Chapel".
You cant beat elvis that's why!
i like this guy excellent video and comedy skills 😀
JVC/Nivico consoles from the 60's have particle board cabinets that crumble but decent electronics and speakers. The one I have (4TR-990 Deluxe Solid State) has 8" woofers and 3-1/2" tweeters in acoustic suspension enclosures with felt sheets for dampening. The sound is actually very good and clean with decent bass and top end. Discrete not IC electronics too. They certainly don't sound thin and flabby like the 70's consoles with the speakers in free air like the Lloyd's or Montgomery Ward's.
I have a cheap Lloyd alarm clock/radio, when I turned on the radio the display started losing power and then when I turned up the volume the display was blinking and the speaker blew
I have a Lloyd's 10 band radio from around 69 or70 and it works and picks up good. It is also mostly made of wood and all inside is so interesting. .I have never seen a radio with so much going on inside.
I got an Emerson table top stereo for my 13th b-day in 1978. BSR TT ran a little fast and the Tetrad ceramic cartridge had limited frequency response. My parent's 1970 JVC console had a ceramic cartridge which ran circles around the Tetrad in the Emerson and the TT ran at the correct speed. Less distortion too. More thought put into all in one systems back then.
Makes good firewood
1:06 The sound of pulling the records out - I related that sound to things that I made up in my mind to crack myself up.
I agree. Despite the sad cabinet, the electronics are superior to a current Crosley. Had the cabinet not been trashed on this one, I would have probably picked it up.
The Elvis album is probably the only good album in this pile, it’s worth about $5 if it’s in minty shape.
You should save the 8 track player and the radio. You could probably fix the belt.
Weisheng Zhang yup
Yes, I thought that too
I have a 1976 Lloyds Montiverdi console. It has 8" speakers, 8-Track, BSR changer and the am/fm radio combo like this one. My is in considerbly better shape and sounds great for it's age. If I don't play the turntable for a year or two it will seaze up like this one. I have 2 videos of mine playing if you want to check it out.
boy what an all around onion.ive seen those on graigs list like you say.it is funny last week here in ok a woman wanted 300 for a tg& y stereo cube...and it said fixer upper lol.grt vid God bless from Oklahoma city
It has a cue lever and an anti-skate control. I looked up the cartridge model and it can track at four grams. Not light be today's standards; but, I've seen cartridges that tracked much heavier. And, this one does have a rubber platter mat.
How often you find 8-track bits and bobs? I might want to have one for my 1965 positive earth heap :)
Never mind
Hi my name is Ed. Turentine, and I am a true lover of old stereos and record changers... and I have a agree ,there were certain types I did not like,I love Magnavox,RCA Orthphonic,Admiral,I dislike Zenith with a passion!! I would love to talk to you about phonographs, I don't work on them,but they fansinate me!!
Particle Board - really Durable stuff - Soaks the Humidity UP -like sponge!! BSR turntables -A collectors market for them - Thats surprising !! A DUAL turntable - yES - had a BSR once - tore it apart as a 13 year old!!!!!!! really wanted a DUAL.
I had not expected that the tweeters would be 45 Ohms.
It's cheaper than them putting a crossover cap on an 8 ohm squalker
I thought soundesign was a good brand? But now I think about it, and they were just throwaways.
Thanks for the comment and yours looks much nicer than mine.
Really like your channel. Are you a member of the Antique Radio Forum?
Candle made a good multiband portable radio in a black leatherette case that is worth bucks today. It worked on ac and batteries and had a four inch front firing speaker
I agree. The main issue I have with them is that they run a little too fast.
the grill cloth could have come in handy somewhere as well
This is about all I ever see, along with 101 strings LP's and Christmas music, at the thrift stores. They never have any good records. Many of these religious records were either given away or sold cheaply at concerts. One of those records was put out by a local church that's still going strong.
Why do all these consoles you buy have at least one Jimmy Swaggert 8 track?
I wish more people would listen to this guy, he certainly knows what he is talking about. I have to admit, that I got my Grandfather back into liking records and music. I'd go to the local flea markets and pick up records like Ray Conniff, and big bands like Glenn Miller. Yes I am 27 years old and like this old music. The first thing my Grandpa did was go out and buy 3 or 4 of these Crosley units. The one even transported records onto CD's, I liked the idea of that, but clearly that thing is a
You have good taste in music!
I wish this had been a Magnavox. Even a mid '70's Magnavox would have been better than this one! Had this been a Maggie in decent shape, you wouldn't have seen it suffer the same fate as this Lloyd's.
I suspect that water did as much damage to that fine furniture as you did. It certainly wasn't heirloom quality. But I have to add that most '60s consoles sounded worse to me than their '70s counterparts, despite more real wood in their cabinets and more substantial hardware. This was probably due to advances in speaker technology during that era and maybe the maturing of solid state tuner and amplifier technology. I'm going to guess that even those cheap woofers had cloth or foam suspensions, which were rare in the '60s. '70s consoles also sounded better than most of the "compact" systems from the same manufacturers, only because the giant cabinets made better speaker enclosures than picture-frame shaped shoe-boxes designed to look big from a distance. So they served a purpose in their own cheesy way. In fact, if I had to listen to Jimmy Swaggart, hearing him on that home-jukebox might actually be a relief compared to the clear reproduction of a real stereo.
+No Name Magnavox Concert Grands late 50's used 16 6V6 for grand total of around 100 watts. These stereos were bi amped using horns and 15 inch woofers. Nothing could touch them at the time. Early solid state were Germanium transistors. These actually have a "tube" like sound to them. I hate to tell you this, but until you start looking at mid to top of the line consoles, the same electronics/speakers were often used in both the cheap all in one units, or in the console units. 95% were still paper surround. Fisher, Magnavox (the high end units had sealed, air suspension enclosures. ), Stromberg Carlson (However S-C was a different animal, their units were designed to operate as seperate components in a console case. Their speakers were essentially stand alone and could be pulled out of the console and placed elsewhere.) were one of the few that used foam surrounds.
It's all about total output amp power and matching the speaker to the amp. My 1963 Packard Bell stereo uses 4 6BQ5 for 18 watts per channel, but it also has the correct speakers. The stiff cone 12 " speakers are designed to operate most efficiently with the amp. This the reason why this stereo can outperform, with two speakers, those so called "1000 watt" home theater systems, it literally shakes the walls and can be heard roughly a block away when it's really rocking.
well you never heard a good quality stereo from the 60s then, they made some cheap junk in the 60s too. You can't beat the old Magnavox Astrosonic stereos from the 60s, we had one when I was a kid and that dammed thing would rattle the walls and had great sound.
found a console dumped out on its back behind a flea mkt....flipped it over and got the speakers out of it. 12"magnavox with horn tweeters in a Styrofoam box. electronic was solid state so I left it. hooked the speakers up at homeand they work fine.
Classic Rock... Elvis Presley
I recently got my 1968 Ampex Micro 85 cassette recorder at a yard sale for free, I was trying to get it working and get it restored, but it was too late. It happened earlier tonight and I was so disappointed that my staff and the house manager got crazy and ends up with an attitude and then, one of the staff took it and threw it in the dumpster while heading out to Shop Rite. I was very upset, and now, my Ampex Micro 85 cassette recorder is now EOL. I also got shocked and and what happened is that I cannot plug it in while is fixing, but that causes a fire hazard and ends up getting an electrical shock. That means, I'm not going to any of the yard sales to buy worthless vintage audio junk ever again for free. I have other stuff that still works to this day. So I will not going to buy it ever again. I have EOL any of the item that is not working anymore for many years now, but the Ampex Micro 85 is no more.
Why is there an atari inside that console? :P
Crap, but still better than a Crosley.
Yep
Actually, Zenith in the late 70's wasn't much better. My parents bought one new---the cabinet was as cheap as that one, including an all-plastic front, and the only speakers were dual 6x9's. No transistors to be found---Zenith proudly touted their all-IC construction on the control bezel
I sold a ton of Morse consoles back in the day. Same particle board.
It might have survived, had they made the whole thing out of plastic. Of course, it would have then rattled like a son of a gun while it was playing. I had a cheap GE console that was mostly plastic and it had a bad rattle while it played.
from the 70s weren't too bad, but I agree with the ones from the 60s being the best. As soon as my Grandpa died, I sold the Crosley's. I didn't want them, and certainly wasn't going to use them, I'm interested in old stuff only. I can't wait until I get a decent video camera so I can upload video's of the Imperial Maganavox. I tell everyone, if you want a good quality console stereo, go with a Magnavox from the early to mid 60s
Despite that's a crap from mid '70's but I think its BSR turntable (8:48) is better than the one used by today's crossley.
Hey Radiotvphononut, when you say these used cheap electronics, where about were they imported from, China, Japan? In which case what do you think about the Japanese made stereos themselves such as Sony, Denon, JVC , Hitachi and others? didn't know they were making stuff out of MDF in the 70s I wasn't exposed to 70s stuff much, and in Britain these consoles weren't as common around where I live, atleast not that I saw , there weren't many who had them, still think they look ok from the front, even this cheap pile a sh'te.
have turntables from the 40 50 and they are the best
Back then the electronics had more thought put into the design whereas in the 70's they started using ICs so much of the electronic design was already done for them. And K-Mart and Montgomery Ward's with their flimsy speakers in free air with no thought put into the acoustics of the cabinet. I've heard much better from consoles like mine with it's speakers being acoustic suspension and excellent ceramic pickup TT. Later ceramic pickups had limited frequency response.
Ah, a BSR record shredder in a cabinet styled in Mid 70s Ugly.
What! No Shango dramatic EOL ending? Probably someone low in funds back in the day that was all they could afford.
They paid too much for junk.
I bought a Lloyds stereo/8track at a garage sale the right side audio was dead and it was playing two tracks at once with some tinkering though I fixed the 8 track and the right side audio fixed itself I guess some capacitors woke up.
Should save the radio for parts. No places to buy caps and resistors transistors anymore. All radio shacks are gone
Radio Shack still online, also Mouser and Digikey
was I the only on that saw the Elvis record?
Save the BSR changer , these woks well and are built solid , yours just needs to be unseized and new grease . If you don't want to keep the BSR sold it on line , there certainly a collector man as me who wants to by it to rescue a vintage stereo , you'rs looks very clean ( no scrathes on the paint ) , It desserve to have a second life .
I have the same changer in my table top model of the same quality. It is basicly held together by hot glue. I have had to work alot on basicly every part of it. Mechanicly and electricly. It was a fun project and I actually use it. Have to agree. All of those are a piece of junk.
Trow it out geesh lol lloyds. Geesh those records you can't even give those away not even to goodwill
n each speaker has has its on sepreate inclosure i can make things fall off shelfs in the front of the house with it n its also got a tube warmer i know cause theres a switch on the radio n it has a pilot light on the bottom of the unit
I got an old magnavox from 1960s I thank it is a 67 modal it works but the readio likes to pick up the same station
Can i have the speakers?
I see those cheap consoles everywhere for as cheap as 20....almkst bought one for the Garrard turntable....
ive got a old console radio ive had forever n ive never heard of the brand its 1964 least thats what the paper work says it was bought its a Pencrest its a full tube set n like u said the old console radios will stand the test of time i lost count of the tickets i got cause of it the odd thing bout it has 2 oval 12 inch subs n there 3 way tri power speakers theres no external tweaters there all built into the 4 12 inch oval subs any help id be greatfull for
MS
Lloyds was one of the cheaper brands.
That being said, it's MDF board. Commonly used for all sorts of cabinets including arcade. This unit is crumbling because it has water damage.
Still, not worth effort to save.
its not MDF that's a better material but still suffers badly at the slightest bit of damp its like a sponge this is made from chipboard which is what a dog leaves behind after its been eating wood left in neat piles dried out you can shape it into whatever planks you need its crap board
thehappylittlefox aka benji MDF is much denser and stronger than chip board
I agree its much stronger I have TV cabinet made from it and it takes varnish very well but untreated it soaks up water like a sponge, pity about the cabinet on those old stereos if it was made of real wood and had some quality electronics in it it would be much better
i bin trying to find a consul stereo
Those Album Covers had great Graphics /Photos (much like a lot of Country stuff from the 60,s GREAT GLOSSY PHOTOGRAPHY/SPLASHY COLORS!!!!!) - But as for the Music - Blah, Blah ,Blah -- Iam not much of a Gospel Fan myself -only Elvis or Black Gospel singers had any real Drive ~Talent in that Department .
Best place for that load of old......is recycling! Note that most are still in plastic film. Owner must have got them as gifts and not liked them.
Oh No .....No Beatles...Who....or CCR!!!!☹️..... strange how many Records of.. unpopular artest show up?😞
foxy says it probably looked ok from a distance still a polished turd though get a cabinet maker to copy the design put some decent 70's hifi gear in there and a separate pair of speakers to match and then take this polished turd out in the boon docks with a couple of sticks of dynamite under it
I noticed the records have never been opened.
+childofgod140 Actually, if you look closely, most (if not all) of the records HAVE been opened. They have been opened carefully so as to keep the outer shrink wrap intact. The outer shrink wrap serves to protect the cover from wear and tear. Outer sleeves can be purchased to protect records that have had their outer shrink wrap removed.
Quality
Yeah, right. 😆
I take that 8-track player
La pondria ala venta???
it got wet
Toss the records, sell the documentation to recoup some moo-law.
The Elvis is a decent album, it’s worth $5 any day. The rest are junk. The manuals could make good money on eBay!
Lloyd's was always junk I remember when I was a child the advertising for them in magazines directed at old people.
Thanks for the E O L videos....Lloyds was good with Multi Band Radios back in the 60s...just like them Alll...when the 80s came. .thay all went down...So Sad Great Brands Are No More....thay are a shell of what thay were....i believe thay were brought by Companies in China....time to let it burn!!!!....Mayfair....And Airline....was far better than this Junk!!!!
Meh, mine runs a little slow
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Wow what bass responsive speakers . LOL , NOT ! Cool video 👍
Drove thru Meridian 2 days ago with a load going to New Jersey. I would have liked to meet you at the flying j or Starbucks I am a electronics tech and raised old school just like yourself. I have no way of getting in touch with you. I have an internet radio that works but do not know how to set it up It is a Squeezebox internet radio