I had an idea like that decades ago but didn't have the money or equipment to build it. One time I just used an old wore out chainsaw blade alon an electric chainsaw to cut a trench
Ground conditions dependent... a superb bit of kit. It won't beat a mole-plough in stoney ground, but if you've got pretty clear soil this will go in places you couldn't plough. Looks really good for doing spurs from main lines of water, power or whatever. I think this tool will do best here - Wales, UK - with the hire-tool and contractor buyers.
on a channel renowned for top inventions, this may in fact be the greatest i have seen here. back in the dark ages when i used a cut-off saw for a living, if i was doing a long cut along the ground, to save my back i would sit on a milk crate and move it backwards or forwards as i pulled or pushed the saw. this might be a cheap alternative to the jig with straps. the jig looks very useful though.
Good morning, Tim, all I can say, OMG, I had to dig by hand the trenches between my gates and they never got as deep as that unit can do. We are just about to embark on building a new chook house and pen. That unit will be ideal for the heavy mesh that I want to put into the ground alongside the main mesh. I will look into getting a unit, Cheers
very interesting, deffo more practical for the tight runs between the gates but for the long 50m plus runs i think the single tyne ripper is still the go however the ripper seldom gets 700mm deep.
Great concept. I have been waiting for it since 1973. I doubt it will last very long. Trenching can beat the crap out of any kind of trencher. I remember a machine called The Mole in the 70's. It had a rotating 'wheel" with four prongs maybe 8 to 10 inches long. It seemed dangerous as hell and it flung the dirt everywhere so you didn't have enough to backfill with. It was small on a heave duty wheeled frame.
We had one 40 years ago called a Trench Wench. A rather un-PC name by today's standards & while we did use it a few times, I can't recall if it was sold or is hiding in a dark corner of the shed
@@FarmLearningTim yeah, ok. I use Gallagher, but maybe being a dairy with more foot traffic in and out of the gate twice a day etc when in those paddocks created the issue (especially in wet years like last year). You know when its shorting, because the cows wont walk through the open gate. Sleeving it in some old agline takes care of it.
Well, I wonder if I could get similar equipment here in Brazil! And in my farm, there are also rocks and still roots underground. But would be nice for me if the chain would be a little width. So, I could install pipes for irrigation of 1 inch and over. This would be my purpose.
The protection bar looks like you could replace with a pipe and lay the cable while you trench like a full size trencher. Only a though. Keep up the reviews also where can we get those work shirts you wear? They need TT branding.
Gday Tim old M8ty, another good vid thank you. You did seem to enjoy yourself with this one - did you mentioned you had a small rock jam ? - does it kick when this happened ? or does it kick back at all, like a chainsaw when cutting with the nose ?
Hi mate. No kicking. The stone was just the right size to jam into a link of the chain. I went through an old gravel track from about 50 years ago. Only two minutes and I was going again.
I,ve used it on heavy clay and crappy shale (the first one) but if I get a chance to use it in different situations I will update on social media with short videos.
Thanks for the vid...interesting piece of kit indeed...could have used it recently putting down half a k of blue line, but not sure it would be wide enough for 25mm pipe and I'm guessing not close for 32mm...can they go wider than shown? Pretty expensive though...over $5000 for the Stihl 500mm model with cart - hope the hire companies pick them up. Do you know how they go with tree roots? Depends on the size I guess. The 38mm of chain slack is interesting / frightening...
Hi Ross, we do wider chains as well but 1 1/2 fits the 38mm easily enough. Dryer or rocky soil ends up with a slightly wider trench. Most roots under 35mm are fine, bit less if they are hard woods but then a crowbar or recip saw works well 👍🏻.
ross holmes, you'd be best avoiding using a stihl for this. i used cut-off saws for a living 30 years ago and i hated the stihls. i was forever having to lift them out of the cut so they could build up revs again. 8 hours a day of lifting a stihl in situations where i only ever had to give a husky more throttle. i spoke to a bloke who works for the local council about the stihl cut-off saw i spotted on the back of his truck. he used to run his own business and said they are still gutless. after 30 years stihl still bludges off an undeserved "reputation" of quality instead of improving their product to keep pace with the competitors. if geo trencher recommends echo, thats good enough for me.
Does it work in hard clay? But yeah had always wondered if a chain saw equivalent would work, given trenchers are just overgrown chainsaws. Plus with the Geotrencher the trench is right for cabling or small pipe, trenchers I have hired do 200mm or so and then the backfill has usually never hidden the work you can see where the trench was or need additional soil.
This spins faster than a trencher so the soil particles are finer and go back in easy. My soil (second half) is heavy clay and quite compacted where I was trenching (see ground cover).
Seems like a great little machine, however the asking price of between 3k and 5k depending on the model, plus $700 for the cart. Think it's a bit over priced.
Remember this Boys and Girls. Using a handheld tool like this while digging thru a Buried electric line without a ground will end your fun in a few seconds. A ride on freestanding trencher is safer when you can't verify what's underground where you need to Dig. I've been electrocuted once and hit by Lightning once. Neither one is pretty, I had to change my drawers and pants because it made me piss myself but at least it left me alive both times.
Only downside, cost . Was halfway there when they had chainsaw adapters, but couldn’t justify it now , but if you are doing a lot of it . For sure . On saying that , I’ve gone from a heavy duty mechanic to a farmer and have over 50 grand in specialty tools doing nothing,, What’s another toy 🤣🤣🤣
My solution to keeping the horses in, is to not have horses. Save thousands on hay and labor hauling and stacking hay, building a hay barn, vet bills, feeding twice a day and paying people to feed when you travel. Even if you pay someone to feed, they'll say they fed, but actually didn't. They'll feed every other day or once a day. They dont care.
Looks like common sense, instead of a gigantic hole and machine. Its probably suitable for 90 percent of what needs done. The new zealanders are probably doing it right by the looks of it BUT i think the concrete saws should be 4 stroke gas or diesel.
What's it cost ? Okay if you're digging miles of skinny trench , no good for anything over 2 inches from the look of the trenches you dug . Could be more cost effective to hire a ditcher for that once in a blue moon job . That said , it is a very clever Kiwi gadget .
@@FarmLearningTim I forgot to ask , It looked as though the dirt you were trenching through was very sandy . Have you tried it in harder ground ? I think it would be very hard pressed to cut my hard clay / shaley horrible stuff .
@erikhouweling1552 depending on how wide your after there are a few options including buying the wider chain. Most people find two cuts but deaper than you need is the way to go - any loose soil from the second cut ends up below where you need to lay your cable / pipe etc so no need to clean out.
I had an idea like that decades ago but didn't have the money or equipment to build it. One time I just used an old wore out chainsaw blade alon an electric chainsaw to cut a trench
I like it, I could see myself using one to install small diameter poly pipe for irrigation.
Ground conditions dependent... a superb bit of kit. It won't beat a mole-plough in stoney ground, but if you've got pretty clear soil this will go in places you couldn't plough. Looks really good for doing spurs from main lines of water, power or whatever. I think this tool will do best here - Wales, UK - with the hire-tool and contractor buyers.
Yep, spot on and a well considered and balanced evaluative comment. Thanks so much.
on a channel renowned for top inventions, this may in fact be the greatest i have seen here. back in the dark ages when i used a cut-off saw for a living, if i was doing a long cut along the ground, to save my back i would sit on a milk crate and move it backwards or forwards as i pulled or pushed the saw. this might be a cheap alternative to the jig with straps. the jig looks very useful though.
Good morning, Tim, all I can say, OMG, I had to dig by hand the trenches between my gates and they never got as deep as that unit can do. We are just about to embark on building a new chook house and pen. That unit will be ideal for the heavy mesh that I want to put into the ground alongside the main mesh. I will look into getting a unit, Cheers
I’ve cost you money again! At least you get a bonus code this time…..
very interesting, deffo more practical for the tight runs between the gates but for the long 50m plus runs i think the single tyne ripper is still the go however the ripper seldom gets 700mm deep.
Great concept. I have been waiting for it since 1973. I doubt it will last very long. Trenching can beat the crap out of any kind of trencher. I remember a machine called The Mole in the 70's. It had a rotating 'wheel" with four prongs maybe 8 to 10 inches long. It seemed dangerous as hell and it flung the dirt everywhere so you didn't have enough to backfill with. It was small on a heave duty wheeled frame.
Put the wire through the protection bar pipe above the blade. Laying the wire in the bottom as you go .
Just borrow your neighbors chain saw.
KKKK I ve done it with my EX father in law!
LOL
Uhhhmm
.... Not quite the same 🤔🤔🤔
We had one 40 years ago called a Trench Wench. A rather un-PC name by today's standards & while we did use it a few times, I can't recall if it was sold or is hiding in a dark corner of the shed
Trench Wench? Was she related to the last PM of NZ? The Stench Wench?
Nice one Tim, that'll save us hauling a excavator just for underground electric fence wire..
You don't run your insulated cable inside poly Tim? Seems to save the insulation eventually getting stone chipped and shorting the fence
Honestly not had that problem before mate. I’ve got 30 year old fences that are still working fine. The Gallagher stuff is pretty good
@@FarmLearningTim yeah, ok. I use Gallagher, but maybe being a dairy with more foot traffic in and out of the gate twice a day etc when in those paddocks created the issue (especially in wet years like last year). You know when its shorting, because the cows wont walk through the open gate. Sleeving it in some old agline takes care of it.
I agree with Mr Morse .. yes a cable spool bracket and tube guide to rear of the chain guard lay cable as you go 🤙
Well, I wonder if I could get similar equipment here in Brazil! And in my farm, there are also rocks and still roots underground.
But would be nice for me if the chain would be a little width. So, I could install pipes for irrigation of 1 inch and over. This would be my purpose.
The protection bar looks like you could replace with a pipe and lay the cable while you trench like a full size trencher. Only a though. Keep up the reviews also where can we get those work shirts you wear? They need TT branding.
They do!! I get them embroidered in Lilydale by a local supplier…. And I reckon you could easily run the cable as suggested!
Pretty cool trencher... Nice video Tim
Wow, any chance that will be available in the states?
I reckon. Hit them up on the link in description
Gday Tim old M8ty, another good vid thank you. You did seem to enjoy yourself with this one - did you mentioned you had a small rock jam ? - does it kick when this happened ? or does it kick back at all, like a chainsaw when cutting with the nose ?
Hi mate. No kicking. The stone was just the right size to jam into a link of the chain. I went through an old gravel track from about 50 years ago. Only two minutes and I was going again.
Nice bit of kit!
good job, keep em coming
Any idea how this would work in stony/rocky ground? We’re on old river bed so lots of rocks.
I,ve used it on heavy clay and crappy shale (the first one) but if I get a chance to use it in different situations I will update on social media with short videos.
Search for some videos with rocks, sites surprisingly well! Can use a sawing motion and rocks come to the surface that could be 100mm in size 👍🏻
@@GeoTrencher awesome, thanks, will have a search.
Thanks for the vid...interesting piece of kit indeed...could have used it recently putting down half a k of blue line, but not sure it would be wide enough for 25mm pipe and I'm guessing not close for 32mm...can they go wider than shown? Pretty expensive though...over $5000 for the Stihl 500mm model with cart - hope the hire companies pick them up. Do you know how they go with tree roots? Depends on the size I guess. The 38mm of chain slack is interesting / frightening...
Hi Ross, we do wider chains as well but 1 1/2 fits the 38mm easily enough. Dryer or rocky soil ends up with a slightly wider trench. Most roots under 35mm are fine, bit less if they are hard woods but then a crowbar or recip saw works well 👍🏻.
ross holmes, you'd be best avoiding using a stihl for this. i used cut-off saws for a living 30 years ago and i hated the stihls. i was forever having to lift them out of the cut so they could build up revs again. 8 hours a day of lifting a stihl in situations where i only ever had to give a husky more throttle. i spoke to a bloke who works for the local council about the stihl cut-off saw i spotted on the back of his truck. he used to run his own business and said they are still gutless. after 30 years stihl still bludges off an undeserved "reputation" of quality instead of improving their product to keep pace with the competitors. if geo trencher recommends echo, thats good enough for me.
I read the thumbnail as french toast. Think im hungry
Tim you are just a little bit scary, Texas chainsaw massacre! Looks a very good tool thanks for sharing
omg! what a great horror movie premise!
Thanks. Cheers.
Very interesting machine Tim and well demonstrated👍
How quick can you create back issues in one shot. That's pretty impressive!
Or spend a little more on the trolley that you probably didn’t see 🤷♂️
Does it work in hard clay? But yeah had always wondered if a chain saw equivalent would work, given trenchers are just overgrown chainsaws. Plus with the Geotrencher the trench is right for cabling or small pipe, trenchers I have hired do 200mm or so and then the backfill has usually never hidden the work you can see where the trench was or need additional soil.
This spins faster than a trencher so the soil particles are finer and go back in easy. My soil (second half) is heavy clay and quite compacted where I was trenching (see ground cover).
Hi Tim - can you review the cheaper Stihl TS420 GeoTrencher V's the Echo? it would be great to see if I need to spend the extra $$
Hi mate. Same machine different power head. I’ve used the same Stihl saw since I was 18…. First power tool I bought. I think you’ll be ok….
Seems like a great little machine, however the asking price of between 3k and 5k depending on the model, plus $700 for the cart. Think it's a bit over priced.
How much for portable trencher?
Honestly not sure but the link in the description has all those details. I deliberately ignore price
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How well does it handle tree roots.
Did you dial before you dig Tim?
Yeah
Este equipamento pode ser enviado ao Brasil ?
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How would it go near trees?
How does it work against roots?
Small roots fine. Larger ones require removal. I use a digging stick.
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Where was that when I was growing up?
I know! Think of all those ruined weekends!
Meet my new friend lol love it. 😂
Cool hat
I could only imagine how shitty it would be to use here in the mountains of NC where you hit rock everywhere!
How does it work with tree roots
Ok with small ones need to cut larger ones.
How wide is that chain? Is there different width options?
38mm. All details and stats are available on the link in the description
wow awesome
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Looks like it might be dodgy in ground with roots.
Nah, it chopped through roots ok. Went through some gum tree and oak roots in the shoot.
Would have liked to see it in action across a graveled driveway.
Good idea. I’ll see what I can do
The PRICES 😵
AWWWW Looks nice
I envy folks who have dirt. Maybe some carbide teeth on that thing and I could try it out.
Remember this Boys and Girls. Using a handheld tool like this while digging thru a Buried electric line without a ground will end your fun in a few seconds. A ride on freestanding trencher is safer when you can't verify what's underground where you need to Dig. I've been electrocuted once and hit by Lightning once. Neither one is pretty, I had to change my drawers and pants because it made me piss myself but at least it left me alive both times.
사고십은대
파는곳이 어딘지
가격은 얼마인지
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Only downside, cost . Was halfway there when they had chainsaw adapters, but couldn’t justify it now , but if you are doing a lot of it . For sure .
On saying that , I’ve gone from a heavy duty mechanic to a farmer and have over 50 grand in specialty tools doing nothing,, What’s another toy 🤣🤣🤣
The reason they went to a demo saw is the clutch. Much better than a chainsaw.
Seems like hell on your back.
Not with the trolly. I’d only use without on short quick jobs.
My solution to keeping the horses in, is to not have horses. Save thousands on hay and labor hauling and stacking hay, building a hay barn, vet bills, feeding twice a day and paying people to feed when you travel. Even if you pay someone to feed, they'll say they fed, but actually didn't. They'll feed every other day or once a day. They dont care.
Hmmm..... Considering there were no actual horses in the video.... I'd 😂say you were triggered. Sorry for your pain....
@@FarmLearningTim Oh,LOL, sorry about that venting there. No pain here, I just have chickens and cats.
YOUR MUSIC VOLUME IS WAY TOO LOUD!
WHAT? I CAN"T HEAR YOU!
Great tool..but seriously over priced 😒😒😒
Looks like common sense, instead of a gigantic hole and machine. Its probably suitable for 90 percent of what needs done. The new zealanders are probably doing it right by the looks of it
BUT i think the concrete saws should be 4 stroke gas or diesel.
dry non oiled chain will last much longer, > just my moto X experience
What's it cost ? Okay if you're digging miles of skinny trench , no good for anything over 2 inches from the look of the trenches you dug . Could be more cost effective to hire a ditcher for that once in a blue moon job . That said , it is a very clever Kiwi gadget .
Yeah it’s not an excavator. It just does what it does really well. Many trades never need more than a 2’ trench.
@@FarmLearningTim But what does it cost ?
@@FarmLearningTim I forgot to ask , It looked as though the dirt you were trenching through was very sandy . Have you tried it in harder ground ? I think it would be very hard pressed to cut my hard clay / shaley horrible stuff .
@@erikhouweling1552 Yep spot on. I accidently did exactly that when crossing over on one of the ends of the trench.
@erikhouweling1552 depending on how wide your after there are a few options including buying the wider chain. Most people find two cuts but deaper than you need is the way to go - any loose soil from the second cut ends up below where you need to lay your cable / pipe etc so no need to clean out.
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