Don’t disagree but Codemasters have been recycling this game for years now. The same issues that existed years before EA bought them are still here. Needed a massive refresh years ago
@@Ryan97NZ2014 - shit 2015 - entirely new engine, great game 2016 - fixed almost all 2015 bugs, career mode new and improved 2017 - new regs and tech tree 2018 - new contracts and interviews and reg changes 2019 - much better graphics, F2, transfers 2020 - My team, great handling, certain redone tracks 2021 - updates for My team, braking point *EA fully buys Codies* 2022 - 2021 but shit 2023 - 2022 but slightly better 2024 - 2023 but *shit* Look at that! Codies wasn't at fault!
Codies still make the game mate 2017 - Broken safety car entire game and slipstream didn’t exist online if someone left 2018 - online desync was hilariously bad for the first few months of release and tyre temps were insane 2019 - Actually decent game, some weird handling issues but meh 2020 - 2019 but better at everything despite removing some classic cars 2021 - Basically recycled 2020, new co-op career was broken for months. All classic cars and alternate tracks gone 22 - First EA game, handling was super difficult which I personally liked but many didn’t, focussed on the wrong things such as F1 Life 23 - Basically 22 handling but traction was 10 times easier and slightly more overall grip, red flags were broken the entire game 24 - lmao Calling 2015 a great game is just straight banter.
@@Ryan97NZ 2015 laid down the foundation for every game since. That's why it was a great leap. 2017 was good, I never had SC issues. 2018 was also completely fine, the desync was patched. Basically with 2021-2024 you just reinforced my point. If it has EA logo it is shit
Good points mate 👏 Attention to detail is a really good way to put it, as details matter so much to F1 games as unlike other sports games which have bigger scope just with the nature of motorsport vs other sports.
Yeah agree there's lack of detail another problem for me is the lack of content I'm board of driving the same tracks over and over again I mean in F1 2020 someone moded Sapang bring the short tracks back Hockenheim would also be really easy to add it's on the modern ego engine I so regret buying this game but this is my opinion thank you aarava and Alex of speaking about the issues
Ive seen this with every EA franchise they’ve bought: They force developers to prioritize gimmicks (such as f1 world, supercars, story mode, etc). Take out old features and readd them as “new” content. Ignore player base feedback, and release yearly games with countless/familiar bugs and reused assets. EA is nothing but a bunch of parasites and kill every franchise and developers they buy out. They know you’ll buy it. Especially content creators dedicated to their games. Yall just getting straight abused at this point. Golden era is dead and this is what is left: a wasteland. They don’t give a flying fuck about the art of gaming. They just want your money. Respect yourselves and the money you earn.
I am so pissed that they cant make simple things right. Like pit limit boards and drs signs. DRS marking board are way of actual place where you can activate it. Pit lane speed limit board having wrong number on it :ú Keep getting penalties/opening drs later just because I use the real boards on road instead of that ugly hud
I have reported this bug (the missplaced DRS signs) 3 TIMES since the game released and they haven't even cared to respond or acknowledge this glitch a single time, so I gave up reporting bugs. I'm not wasting my free time with this anymore.
@@aloluna1857 Same. I reported this since f1 21/22. They just dont care about it. It isnt something important as I almost everywhere activate drs by memory but I still dont remember speed limits as I go into pits once max twice per race
wanna say when F1 2021 was launching no-one was happy about it, handling was strange, took away short circuits and classic cars. now after 3 years I came back to f1 2021 and in comparison with newer games I have to say it was amazing. F1 franchise is dying and will die in next 2-3 years when ea will see how badly f1 games are selling
I played F1 2020 again. I missed the post race interviews. The unique poses and podium emotes. Sochi 😅. Classic F1 cars. Just do F1 2020 with F1 23 handling, it would be good. Just remake
Ai still trounces you on straights no matter what, either done get off the racing line at all or do get off but get right back on as your trying to pass. It’s a copy paste game every year and they charge full price for what’s basically a piss poor DLC that will have the same problems as the previous 3 games.
The most frustrating part of their newer features like F1 Life and F1 World is how much development time was spent towards an utterly pointless cause. If they spent that same time working on things people actually cared about like Career, Online, Handling, etc then we wouldn't have these lack luster games. Games pre 22 almost never had features as pointless as they do now. The only thing saving these games right now is the popularity of the sport and the licenses, I guarantee if they didn't have the licence or there was a rival game with it they wouldn't be getting nearly the sales they do with the lack of improvements since 2021. A real shame considering every game between 2015 and 2020 came with noticeable improvement in quality.
It is mind boggling that they spend so much time adding "features" that even at face value are incredibly lame and appeal to literally nobody. It's like an F1 team neglecting their car to put their aerodynamicists to task improving the airflow around their paddock building.
And it’s also crazy that they use the OLD F2 GRID FOR CAREER MODE. You can’t Even have Antonelli in your career because they need ages to put in the new F2 Season ffs. MotoGP has Moto2 and Moto3 at Launch since how many years? First Game I played was 2015 and it already was there. Also very good inclusion in career where you start in Moto3 and ur not just doing a random F2 Season like on this years career mode
Can’t wait for all these creators complaining every year to accept EA’s money and feature in their promo videos for F1 25 telling us it’s improved massively as they do every year.
@@sqweeps.03you're defending it. But game reviews pre release from big creators should always be tken with a grain of salt as buying your way out of producing garbage games.
Hi. So way back between 2012 to 2017 I was in QA for Codemasters, mainly focusing on the front end experience and pad functionality. Having kept in touch with a lot of the people there it appears that the QA team has dramatically reduced down in terms of headcount and the testing process from a full end to end point of view has been replaced by getting in influencers to “test”. Obviously these people are not trained QAs and would make sense when you mention bugs are not being fully resolved. For me it sounds like influencers are coming in to test the functionality of an unfinished product which is a massive no no and there feedback is then being considered but not necessarily actioned for whatever reason during the development cycle.
Good video, for me Multiplayer needs a lot of work. - Massive down time between casual races (loading screens). - No option to rent a server with selected rules & track roster to reduce lag against drivers on other side of the world. - If we had rented dedicated servers to play on we could return to those servers for something like a level up system? kind of liked ranked but better - Host can't even kick more than 1 person at a time if dirty drivers join. - Host has to rely on everyone else to ready up to even start the race even if it's an event like scheduled league racing. - If you miss out by seconds in joining a lobby loading screen you miss out on the race and have to sit there doing nothing, maybe let them choose between spectating or practicing a track or start them from the pitlane? - Very boring damage model and nothing happens to the barrier when you hit it. (Even a downgrade from 2021 damage model) - Lack of customization in general, can't make fun rules to race with or change car physics for challenges. - We should be able to start a online lobby by ourselves (not need 2 people) so we can do e.g. league racing practice. These are just some things I've thought of from the top of my head and there's plenty more I've missed
I noticed that if your car gets hit from behind you get a warning for collision with player "X". Why am I getting a warning for collision when the driver behind hit me??. It's the same dumb penalty system from F1 2020. Prolly because they're using the same engine. None of the things you mentioned will make it to the game unless some changes are made to the engine. It needs a complete overhaul. The game has become like those recycled Madden and FIFA games. Haven't bought a F1 game since F1 2021.
I've gone back to F1 2014 for shits and giggles. The visual damage is eons ahead of the current games. If it was possible 10 years ago, 2 console generations back, why isn't it possible now?
14:26 Kinda disagree. Codemasters were not exactly an amazing studio before EA. The games before F1 22 shared many symptoms as the EA governed new ones. The problem is that now EA decides things so even if Codies wanted to rise up and do things properly, they will need the green light (read - funds) from EA.
CodeMasters are just as bad tbh. 2014-15 were god awful and the monetisation was awful after 2018. I think they'd be seeing similar numbers without EA as well tbh
I swear all EA have been doing have just been stripping the game of good features - Classic cars - Wet time trial - Short tracks - A decent handling model And then adding pointless ones no one is going to use - F1 world - Fanzones - Compendium - Supercars So now all the game really is at least for me is practice for league race, do the league race and repeat, it’s so frustrating having nothing fun to do on this game anymore other than league racing and maybe open lobbies, I tried one race of the ‘reformed’ career and all I see it as is a slightly more complex contract system and some goals you need to reach in career, I managed to qualify 4th in a Williams but the AI were ridiculous in the race especially in a straight line So yeah I hope EA get replaced by someone who knows what they’re doing like KUNOS (the developers of ac and acc)
agree , lack of innovation and new features are the more disturbing areas.. also their engine is dog compared to ACC or any other race sim. their not fit to make f1 games
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 in fairness AC was made like what 9/10 years ago so of course the AI aren’t gonna be great and ACC were made in 2020 so the AI still aren’t gonna be AS good as 2024 AI models with how much they progress
@@JensenR12 F1 games have had good AI since 2017. So this is not an excuse. The kunos games have bad AI and ac evo probably will have bad AI as well since the AI in acc has gotten worse over time in some aspects
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 I get F1 AI has been good but this years are pants, backing out every time they’re in a battle, stupidly long DRS zones, stupid straight line speed etc And even in KUNOS didn’t get the ai right the first time I wouldn’t be surprised if generally in MOST aspects the game would be better
I've always said its as if they make the game with the intention of the person only playing less than a couple of hours. F1 23 released with a bug where the contracts expired before the season ended because there was 24 races instead of 23. This just shows that they didn't even bother doing 1 season of career mode before releasing the game. This is INSANELY lazy
Does anyone remember real season start? You could take over from a driver from any race in the season up until the most recent one, and continue it as a career, it was honestly epic, but they took it out after 1 game [2021], and now that I think about it, they will probably add it in f1 26 as a fresh feature 😂
Honestly, as not an F1 fan, but an F1 absolute fanatic nerd: If 2025 is anything like 22-24, I’ll stick to 2020, GT7, ACC and so on, them not seeing a single penny from my side and many others as well. Cheers for speaking up mate!
I'm not an f1 fan but enjoy the racing and im happy playing f1 2019, plus the classic cars are one of my favourite parts and it's not even in the new game. I'm doing laps with 1991 mclaren on interlagos and it's really fun
This is why everyone hates EA. Ever since Andrew Wilson took over, their focus has never been about making an experience that is great for gamers; it has been about how to squeeze as much money out of their players. They can't make more money with a Career mode, or Franchise Mode (If you play Madden, FIFA/FC or NHL). So what do they do? They corner the market by signing an exclusive deal with the league that everyone loves, and then they create a gimmick that they think will get them more money after you purchase the base game. Ever since they bought the license to make F1 games, they have been trying to figure out a way to implement a Ultimate Team style mode for F1 to rake in the money just like they do with Madden, FC, and NHL. They don't care about Career mode or making the AI better. Oh heck no. This is what EA does until the majority of players wake up and stop buying their crap.
The only problem is that their UT model is near impossible with racing games. Racing in itself is supposed to be fair grounds and merit based. Why would anyone bother racing each other with worse cars? The straight line difference alone is enough to turn people off and make them see the game mode as rigged. And it's also optimised for the wheel, rather than the pad. F1 games aren't the same as FIFA, where pad players twiddle thumbs with next to no effort and get results. Pad playing F1 is a massive handicap and a chore to learn and it's why the casual player base never sticks around much.
Jarno told them the handling was shite and they ignored him. If they don't believe or listen to him then you and everyone else is wasting their breath. At this point they could put Ian Bell in charge and the game would be better!
@@davidbanner1020 I think you need to read the tile of the video. You know the part where it says "F1 Game." Jarno Trulli, as far as I'm aware, has never played the game let alone won any F1 Game eSports Series so I don't know why you mention him? Now getting back to the "F1 game" I believe the views of a currently competing F1 eSports driver, who for some reason you describe as "a virgin video game racer who's never driven in F1" were worth listening to by the developers.
@@davidbanner1020 The Jarno you're talking about has raced in formula renault and raced against Bottas and Vettel in an off-road tournament last year. The f**k have you done?
This is what happened with fifa, they ignore the guys who criticise the game and just pretend it's all good and have golden boy content creators who don't say a bad word
I watched you, aarava, tiametmarduk, and co review f123 and decided that i no longer wanted to give my money to a company that is treating the game we love as a cash cow. Theres clearly no love or interest from EA theyre doing what every AAA developer does by making "BIG NEW FEATURE" to sell the game and leaving it in a broken state on launch, firing/laying off development teams for underdelivering when theyre crunching to meet rediculous turnaround times, then having to train new teams only to repeat the cycle. The worst thing to come out of the covid pandemic was the level of corporate greed from upper management positions and CEOs of large companies started growing exponentially year on year, and when people stopped having excess money to spend on things they didnt need, the people in power blamed it on the workers for not delivering a good enough product.
Simple things like changing the garage positions each year make a big difference they could learn alot from what Frontier are doing with the progression of f1 manager each year.
Speaking as a competitive player this is the first F1 game I haven’t purchased since 2015 purely because of the handling model. It’s a complete joke it’s still as bad as it is which makes me believe the guy that replaced Greco needs replacing himself. It’s harsh but this game won’t survive another year like this in my opinion. The playerbase is only getting smaller.
Don't worry, the decline will continue until they don't make enough money with it in their opinion. Then they either actually make a good game or just stop doing F1 games, it is how it works. And not playing and more importantly not buying the next game until something significantly changes is the only language they understand. Forget feedback and bug reports and all that. They only understand money. As long as enough people give it to them, they won't care. Stop throwing money at this series for christ.
The problem is that EA should stop doing ANY KIND OF games, not just F1. FIFA 19 is arguably the start of the EA's decline and when the game got the UEFA license, I was really pissed because PES lost it. And finally EA lost the name FIFA, so I wish only the best for you and everyone who REFUSES to buy any EA product. The only EA game who is consistently good right now is SIMS 4.
You are right, all corporations only speak one language. But it already has designed significantly since EA bought them, so alarm bells are probably already ringing
Spare a thought for us console players. New career mode is irrelevant and no point in playing my team. Why? because Codemasters and EA have taken out the helmets, gloves and cars etc. It’s not my team if I haven’t got anything to customise. There’s more overalls and helmets etc in the characters house than there is in the game. Podium pass isn’t worth anything anymore. In game bugs are soul destroying….😞
the fact we still can't introduce different wing, floor, side pod and so much more complex figurations, baffles me. I could think of so much that could've been slowly introduced into the game and they haven't done. F1 manager has it all. the main series is so lack luster.
14:17 Wrong. EA and you do not have the same target. EA does not want to make the best game possible. They want to make money as much as possible. Back in the day what gave you the most money was creating the best possible game but that does not do it anymore. It is important to understand this. If they tried to actually make the best game possible (applies to other developers as well btw) we would have insanely great games nowadays, much better than the ones we currently call the best game out there today.
Interesting point, but I guess it depends how high you go. EA as a company exists to make money, as do the shareholders and the people that report to the shareholders. The devs themselves though just want to make the best game they can
i agree hot take but i think that the og ps2 Ratatouille is way better than most games now the graphics of Ratatouille are obviously worse but that doesn't matter in a game i recently replayed it and i still enjoyed it same with ac brotherhood brotherhood is an absolute banger love the game and than there are the shit ac games from nowadays except for mirage they did a good job at making it a good game
@@AlexGillon I agree the devs are probably doing their best most likely, you don't become game developer to create mediocre video games. They can only work with what they are given though and it appears nowadays that is not enough - probably talking about time most importantly. And I bet there are marketing analysis and all that fun stuff (which are not actually fun) that prevent the approach to have a base game and improve on that year after year until you get the best product possible - because that is not the shareholders goal ultimately, so the devs have their hands tied and that will likely never change. It literally cannot change when you have to press out a game yearly. I mean look at FIFA... how's that model supposed to work better in any shape or form for F1 games?
@@AlexGillon F1 isn't ea money maker same with NHL, NFL , money is where they want, reason Ultimate team and any places where microtransactions can be put will be FiFa the best exemple it is a huge major money maker and they barely adapted, battlefield and star wars Battlefront both died because of microtransactions and lack of understanding the community behind it. money money money EA CEO and shareholders making all the money is all they care , dev are forced to do this because the money heads only want more money without realizing that good game make more money but it take more time yet that not what they want they want money now and that all they care about maybe a few do care but the bigger heads and shareholders don't
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Oh, well, that case of shipping half-baked "headline features" every itteration is what we call in project management a company turned into a "feature factory", when the main incentive and metric for the teams is on shipping new features regardless of their actual use case or maturity.
Personally, I'm with many of the comments below that EA shouldn't have the license and another dev should be given the rights to it. The game for console players in my opinion is so boring after the first season and now that PC players have less mods to play with, they're seeing the lack of design and longevity the core game actually offers. I know how great this game COULD be, after how long it's been around - how good it SHOULD be but I do not believe that Codemasters or EA have any idea what people playing this game actually want. The sad thing is, what we generally want isn't even outlandish or overly difficult to implement because they are largely little tweaks and refinements. Too many features have been lost that were good, too many pointless features added to show off irrelevant brand collaborations rather than improving playability or enjoyment. The bugs that have persisted year after year are mind-numbing. I have gone from someone who would pre-order the new game the day it was announced to not even bothering with this years at all and only getting 2023 when it was 90% off just to see if it was an improvement. I don't trust the company is willing or able to deliver anything I'd consider worthwhile anymore and the game that I once loved is just a distant memory.
I went back to f1 23 and just starting a new career mode. F1 24 is just not fun. Ai just follow each other, lack of alternative tyre strategies The way the cars handles and just pretends kerbs don't exist on 24 really kills any sense of reward when your trying to put a good lap together. On 23 when u put a good lap in u feel like u did that and not the systems on the handling manipulating the car These things are more apparent when you go back to f1 23 and realise how much better it is. I did back to back races at imola on 23 and 24 and 24 had no battles, a huge train. On 23 we had ai being aggressive and overtaking as soon as they had a chance. The battles on 23 are so so fun and bring the race alive. If you did a blind test on these 2 games im sure most if not all will say 23 is the newer game and 24 is the older one. Which makes u question what are u paying the money for. Being a big f1 fan I will still buy f1 25 and that's the fans ea like to take advantage of. The fans who will buy the game no matter what, same problem with fifa
Who else misses the F1 2020 feature where you can PAUSE DURING THE LOADING SCREEN?! To change wheather settings and time of day? before loading in? instead of loading in first and then again to change all the things you want.....
f1 2020 was such a good game. The ERS was fine. There weren't that bad of DRS trains. But mainly, the handling was so good. I don't understand how it's gone this bad.
Because nobody is saying anything bad about it. Everyone wants to stay on their good side,to get the game 3 days before everyone else. Every year,it's the same game or worse,but everyone praise them and beg them to take your money every year,for the worse game. That slightly change a few things,just so it looks little bit different and like they did something. Remember the hype when they announced red flags? LoL That was funny. Everyone disable it now,because its shit. The same 4 seconds every time and back to the grid. Even safety car is still broken. Steonger leagues, have ghosting on for the quali,because there is no dirty air this year,but DRS amd slipstream is too powerful. And they should run esports on this game? Its a joke. And if you continue to stay silent,nothing will change. In fact,it will only get worse
In the end this is good, Codemasters were never really competent enough to hold the f1 licence, the sales just need to fall below what the licence costs and we'll finally see some other developer pick it up and do it properly. The best outcome would be for us to see the exclusive licence not be a thing anymore.
The slipstream/dirty air balance just ruins racing. Racing should not feel artificial like this year. In real f1 if you are faster u want to pass as soon as possible. In the game you can just sit in the other guys drs save tyres and ers because dirty air is nonexistent. Nobody wants to see 24/7 drs trains and the power of drs/slipstream just limits the strategy options in league races.
I must say Alex, your Email to EA was thoughtful and intelligent, and well written. If EA had any sense (or lack of Corporate greed) they would have taken your advice 🤝
Great points, I bought year on year and my “breaking point” was after getting “My Team” through a hard successful year clawing from the back to mid field, expecting my garage to be moved up and….
F1 22 killed a lot of people’s hope hence the sales drop with 23. Sad part is that 23 was a big improvement. People began to hope again and then 24 game out with its arcade style handling and people just hate it
You never want EA to take control of a series, look at Madden and NHL, they always remove features and rarely improve their games. F1 24 was the first F1 game I refunded
If you think the f1 bugs are bad f2 is even worse. Last year it was impossible to do a full weekend because you had the same hard tyre you already used in the sprint, for the feature. THIS BUG WAS NEVER FIXED.
It also sucks that games that were really good like f1 2020 aren't even available to buy on steam anymore because they want you to buy the new game at full price.
Great video, you said it all well. Ranked was a nightmare in 23. I am a trophy hunter so I needed to get to Elite. It was a frustrating experience because I couldn't find lobbies. Barely 5 players, everyone would disconnect before the session started. My progress was reset because there was new podium pass season or whatever... For a casual player career mode is unplayable after season and a half because car will become a boat with enough upgrades while AI isn't affected. This thing has been in the game since F1 2021! I wish so much that I could enjoy career mode like I did in 2018, 19, 20. And of course the technical state of the game is horrible every single year. They probably don't even playtest it.
This is the first f1 game I have not bought since f1 97. I refused to waste any money on a rehash of the last 3-4 games. I’m so glad I’ve not wasted my money, based on this review which sums up everything else I’ve read in recent months. F1 manager has been a better purchase in recent years.
My first F1 Game was 21 and I put probably 200+ hours into it. F1 22 and 23 were both massive letdowns for me in comparison. The handling always felt like I was constantly skating around and I never felt comfortable. I eventually had to put flashback on because I got so frustrated never understanding why my car was spinning out even though I was focusing on my throttle control. Obviously you can say skill issue for me but it just never felt good to me. I play sports games usually for career mode and it’s just not good tbh. I didn’t bother picking up 24 this year I might pick it up when it hits under $30 bucks.
The 2020 is the best handling...have all the classic car 😍. You really miss something lol .2021 is really bad .2022 is more bad .and 23 and 24 is like a remix of 21 and 22 😂
Stopped buying the games this year as I’m tired of being let down year after year for extortionate prices. The only way they will realise is if a mass amount of people will just not buy the f1 games that follow in the years to come. Even if that kills the franchise in some ways I think that’s better than constantly kicking and spitting in the faces of fans who care about the game only to fry up a rehashed version of a previous game.
Preface this with saying I'm still on F1 23, but the one thing that I see the most with the lack of polish is the subtitles. Ever since they bought in the female co-commentator, the subtitles don't match what's being said. Crofty will ask her something, but the subtitles will be asking Anthony a completely different question. If they can't be bothered fixing something as small and simple as that, what hope for anything bigger? Nevermind that the game menus are a confusing mess, I don't do single races anymore because they've made it so damn hard to. I cannot navigate nor understand what hoops the game wants me to do. Remember when you could just choose 'Single Race' and in one game at least, even decide the grid order so a Minardi was on pole? That was fun! Let me take my MyTeam car into a single race, and just make that a simple thing to do. People want the ultimate F1 experience, and that's not buying wardrobes, or driving supercars. It's F1. People want F1 cars and tracks, modern and historic. Look at what modders bring to iRacing, the demand is there, but no-one official wants to make that. Games are supposed to be fun and limited only by your imagination, and I don't see why racing games should be any different. Give us historic tracks and let us put 2024 cars on them if we want! Heck, give us world renowned circuits, that F1 would never go to, like Le Mans or Daytona! Let us choose our dream season of historic and crazy circuits. Make racing games fun again, dammit! Sorry for the rant, but this has been building for a while.
Alex thank you so much for being another creator using your platform to thoughtfully articulate this franchise's inadequacies. I am a league racer on this game of several years, and a Texan who like many Americans absolutely fell in love with Formula 1 in recent years (even though I'd like to think I was a bit ahead of the curve lol.) Our league was at one point up to SEVEN divisions with full grids of full time drivers and several reserves in every division showing up every single Thursday night to compete against each other on this game. Now it's down to 2 with 15 drivers each race if we're lucky, almost exclusively because of how quickly this game has fallen off. Our lobbies are almost always glitched out every single week with desyncs being a common occurrence even though we have every player pass an internet speed test. Every single week. Not to mention the lack of customizable liveries, racing suits, helmets.. it's like the game is made by some sort of AI developer with massive adhd and zero awareness of what the actual Formula 1 fans and long term players in this franchise want. IMO the writing was on the wall the minute classic cars were stripped. What a massive "fuck you" to anyone who cares about the rich history of this sport or even casual players who want a challenging extra game mode. This is the official game franchise for, quite literally, the most technologically advanced sport on our planet and it feel's like a step or two above a cheap mobile game. It's fucking sad, honestly. The Formula 1 game, like the teams and drivers, should be an *exceptional* product every single year. We want detail, we want great craftsmanship, we want immersion, we want more. We want an experience with this game. Instead we get mediocrity and a complete lack of respect for our time, resources, and energy from a giant company who seems to just be a shell of what it once was even if the wallets of their executives don't reflect it. I am not exaggerating when I say every time I play this game there is at least always one moment where I wonder if the people who make this game actually despise me. And the wild thing is I know without a doubt a staggering number of other players feel the same. Keep up the honest critique and we will continue to support you. The world needs a great Formula 1 game made by people who actually give a fuck.
I really hope F1 gaming license will be non-exclusive. Best games and most interesting features we've got when there were several licensed F1 games every year from different developers - end of 90s, beginning of 00s
You say it's not EA. As a adamant FIFA player. It is defo EA. They do not care about these smaller bugs like the weather display for example. They use the same code every year this is why you get recurring bugs like the formation lap one or the Equal performance one. I once saw a reddit post from a supposed EA employee who said they space their bugs out into 4 categories 1. Game-breaking highest priority 2. quite annoying and costs the company money (I.E. pitcoin purchase glitches or the equal performance bug, forcing players OFF the game meaning they wont spend money while in there) 3. quite annoying and doesn't cost the company money (i. E. the weather glitch, yes its annoying but it doesn't make you play the game less probably) 4. minor visual bugs etc F1 will fall under the same curse as FIFA where itll deteriorate every year until either they close the studio or someone finds a loophole to create a competitor in the F1 games. Only then will we potentially see changes for the better. I absolutely hate that this is what it became too.
Also there are simple things they could do like, in own team career mode, give options for car design to choose like let's say that if ferrari with the bathtub design body, or the redbull down wash, merc with zero pods, those general designs we can choose for our team car. Not just that different configurations of rear wing for high down force, medium down force, low down force. Exploring the beam wings,
The guys at EA were probably laughing when they read that not changing the handling model will affect the sales of the game. I bet they are not laughing now.
The fact that you can no longer buy the old F1's on Steam makes it even worse. Games like F1 2021 will be lost forever because it hasn't been pirated yet and you can't buy it either
What kills me is how is the official game of F1 not even have accurate tracks. The fanzone is just a waste of space. F1 world waste of space. The series have no new content. They should work side by side with creators and build a game
I agree 100% and what I don’t understand with games is the ps1 and early ps2 where updates wasn’t physically possible it was a finished game on the disc from release, they managed to get everything right and it just worked till the next one was released
If the game wasn't complete, it wouldn't sell. Nowadays people will preorder digital copies... If they can sell it for more and make it for less, they will.
As an NFL fan and F1 fan.. as soon as I saw EA get codemasters I knew it would be over... seen them destroy Madden Franchise year after year and leverage the exclusivity license and its the same for F1 now... FIFA made the right call to seperate from EA. As soon as you give EA an exclusivity license they will do all they can to make mediocre improvements to show 'progress' but keep the game unplayable until you buy the next one under the same hope that things will improve. Its so tiresome as a consumer - I flat out refuse to buy EA games. Only ever download once its free on PS Plus.
Yes please, more creators finally criticising the F1 Game and devs/ EA etc, finally! EA/ Devs just don't even fix long standing bugs any more, even those from past versions. Nothing will change at all. Which is very common with EA products.
Goal is not for us to enjoy it more, but for it to generate more money. I think frustration is intentional, like supermarket queues and music. People spend more when frustrated.
No surprise that once EA got their hands on it it’s gone down the shitter. They don’t care about offline career modes, gameplay, they only care about how much money it makes. Just like they’re obsession with Ultimate Team and FIFA
Me and my mate have played two-player career weekly, almost without fail, since F1 22. We both hop online every tuesday and do the next race on the calendar. It's fun. With F1 22 & 23, we would both play independently during the week in our single player career, time trial, whatever, and that would sort of keep us sharp and act as practice for when we raced. It's been a blast. But 24 is the first time that we both admitted last week that we haven't actually been playing outside of our two-player career this year. I thought it was just me but it turned out he's done the exact same. We don't want to stop our two-player career, but we absolutely wish there was another option than just F1 to do this in. I think if it wasn't for us both genuinely just having fun playing the game with each other, we would have both stopped playing a while ago. I just don't like the feeling of this year's game (for context, we're not hardcore sim racers, just regular controller guys having a good time taking our seasons semi-serious without going overboard), and it's sad. What makes it worse is that each time we play, we both know there is a chance on any given Tuesday that the game will just break, sometimes completely screwing up several hours into our race weekend session and we've had to literally skip races before because they've become broken and unfinishable. For whatever reason, if a race breaks for us once, it's almost guaranteed to break the same way again on a retry, even if we come back another day. Like it's baked into the scripting of that race somehow.
Honestly if the majority of people just didn't buy it one year I guarantee you the majority of the major issues would magically be fixed. As it stands it's an easy guaranteed income for EA and FOM with minimum investment.
Only thing that might really help is buying a buttkicker to feel the rear. I have it under my seat and increased sensitivity which helps. Maybe this years game was focused on how hard they really are to drive?
Diminishing returns that you get with annual releases. Each yearly purchase of a full price game is essentially a software update. Same game new lick of paint. F1 manager has better graphics. Features added then taken away e.g. classic cars.
also the dev teams are split between the years, one team does one year while the other team works on the other that tied with their spaghetti code is why we keep seeing bugs swing back around because they don't know how to manage their source control and publishing, its basic fundamental software engineering stuff that they fail at it's also why we end up with braking point every other year only expect this to get far worse as the business side tries to cut corners by putting in more AI based dev processes to save money i've got very low hope for 25 because its the 23 / 21 team doing it
Yep it's what happened with fifa, more and more bugs each year because the devs who made the original game it's based from (fifa 17) don't work there anymore and they don't even understand the game themselves. And live updates always come with random glitches because of it
I am gonna start with, I DO apreciate this vid.😂 Anyway, here are my points of details they should do for next year atleast! 1. Bring back the handling of F1 23 in the slow corners except for the rear locking meta. 2. Keep the new ERS management system but bring back the deployment/recharge features the previous f1 games had. 3. Get rid of F1 World thus you have more time to upgrade the other game modes. 4. Listen to the community more often! But that is probs everyones point as well😂
I love how the poll result from 9 years ago still pretty much exactly agrees with what you said today. And you're absolutely right. I've been playing the F1 games since 2015 (even though I played F1 2012 in 2015, don't ask) and have spend thousands of hours over the years. Since then I pretty much bought the game every year, sometimes even getting the premium editions in pre-order. Yet, I haven't bought the last three games...
i personally think its partly ea and partly a lack of competition, if multiple studios were given the licence i think the quality would increase substantially.
The little things are stacking up. Why aren't we able to switch between cars in the showroom while having the HUD invisible? Why are there only a handful helmets? Why are the DRS boards at the wrong places? Why can't we preview the unlockables in the season pass? They just do not care anymore.
Much like with the FIFA/FC series, each year's release is revolution not evolution. They add new shiny features without refining the game and fixing existing issues. I can name you glaring problems in FC 24's career mode that have been around since FIFA 14.
I moved to iracing a year or so ago and have not looked back for a single second. The actual F1 car in iracing is not heavily used but the Super Formula (Formula B, SF23) and SFL Light are both fantastic series with really good participation.
While I agree with much of what you say I genuinely don’t agree with what you’ve said about listening to creators and esports players. There’s been plenty of examples of developers fucking up games for normal people by acting on the whims of ‘pros’.
Why couldn't they code into the game Lewis going to Ferrari? It's the little things that they miss but this one thing is a huge deal that needed to be implemented into the game
Thanks for the video, mate! Totally agree with you-attention to detail is key, and they really need to do something about the bugs! I've seen the same bugs over and over again. And like you said, if only they'd play the game, they would've seen those bugs. I’d also love it if they brought triple screen support, but that's more of a wish😄
@@Zeverinsen 😞 as the song goes that's so... "sad but truuuuuue"
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I can't help but draw parrallel with the Forza situation. Both tried to go for "headline features" but due to lack of focus (probably derived from time and ressources constrains) couldn't get the fundamentals right. Yes, I like added features that give some spice, but the core experience done right is what makes people go back and play again. Else, the game looks like a Potemkine village with a lot of flash but little substance. I'd take Gran Turismo rather than Forza because even with half the cars, no "builders cup", no car-RPG system, it still does the fundamentals better, it feels polished and you feel like you're immersed in a car with lots of coherent details made by passionnate people. I'd have more fun playing ACC than F1 even without a career mode or "F1 World" because once again, the fundamentals of driving and immersion are done better. Doesn't need to be exactly "more realistic" (hence my GT, hardly a full-sim, example), it just need to be a more cohesive experience.
Honestly as a not only a F1 fan as a racing fan in general seeing this downfall of most racing games is sad EA bought Codemasters and they destroyed all their hard work they did codies were goated the Dirt rally series the old ones collling mcrae the F1 2012 F1 2013 F1 2018 F1 2020 all those games are goated in they own respective way bcs codemasters made them for the fans for the experience of the fans it was not just a cash grab like it is right now with EA they are doing the same with Need for Speed series the only good NFS game they made in the last 10 years in my opinion is Heat and it had flaws before that most of the other NFS games were utterly terrible they stopped making games for the sake of fans it's all just a fking cash grab and that is sad in the day where the technology is at it's peak where racing games should be thriving they are falling off big time
I'm still quite happy playing F1 2019 - I never bothered with the newer ones just due to the reviews 😂 might upgrade to 2020 at the end of my current career mode, but probably won't go much further..
The issue with the handling is that ea or Codies doesn’t know how a balanced handling works or can’t make one a f1 car has arguably the most downforce from any racing car so it’s unbelievable to me that the car doesn’t turn in at all or straight up understeer from entry to exit iracing brings out the merc from 21 and 22 and I instantly see that the car turns in and response Like what a f1 car should do …. And imo what’s a complete no go is changing the handling 3 times and also tweaking the assist . Using assist should never help no assist user gaining lap time or be able to get close to there no assist time … assist should punish a player 0.7 at least casual players I believe wouldn’t be annoyed but you seriously can’t cry about it if you compete in league racing with assist against no assist users and they smash you in quali by 0.7 and in the race best you by 30sec … its seriously time we get the changes we want simple this is f1 and not Ea Fc 24 you need to put effort in to make better sells and more money and not add pitcoins add a Store with random stuff because people don’t care if the handling is good and there are nearly no bugs (like f1 2018) the game is fine and the sells are good win/win situation
Simpe answer, EA - Focus more on microtransactions, not on actually to imrpove the game. Charge full prize for a re-skin of the game and slide upgrade. They are really far away to undarstand what fans wants.
This is what EA does. They take good games and suck them dry. Sims 4 & Madden are prime examples. EA ignores their fan base and pumps out new features, While ignoring bugs and gameplay issues with the game. This isn't a new thing. EA does this because they know the fanbase will keep buying the game regardless. While It's the same with sims 4. They keep releasing expansion packs and other DLC, but never fix the bugs. The game is so broken that it is impossible to fix now. With Madden it is the same game each year just reskinned. F1 is experiencing the same thing. Honestly, I don't see the F1 series dying out completely...It will suffer the same fate as Madden and other EA games. There will be just enough diehard fans that will keep buying the game to keep it alive. The fans wanting an F1 experience will keep it going. Unless F1 Manager gives EA enough competition there is really no motivation to make better games if they can keep money flowing without having to spend more money on making a better game.
And also in f12020 the gradual acceleration and handling for keyboard players was good, but since 2021 they forgot about keyboard players. There are a lot of ppl who can afford game but not the sim setup
F1 24 released way too early in the year, these games should be released no earlier than mid-June - just look at the AI issues, the handling model, the tire model (realistic to an extent, but still) and the ERS systems which the AI can't even use to their fullest. F1 25 needs to be a big step forward for the series.
Unless there is some sort of massive rule or technical change, there is almost no reason to be putting out these yearly releases. Make them every 2 years with a discounted upgrade / patch / DLC in the off year to account for driver / team / livery changes. That way they can spend the time to make each full release new, FULLY COMPLETED and with unique modes / scenarios
Your next video should be about the pattern of even numbered F1 games being awful…and that ERS system needs reverting for the next game, it doesn’t even work like that IRL, that & the excessive understeer in the dirty air of other cars contribute to the worst F1 game since 2015 imo. i’ve gone back to playing 23 & will only come back to 24 for the new F2 cars in a few months & then bin it again.
They do have 2 different teams working on the odd and even games, but I don't think it's fair to say one is inferior to the other, especially as certain things don't have that split, like handling. Codemasters have always tended to over react every other year as well, it predates the 2 separate development teams
I get your point more recently but thinking further back even numbered F12020 was arguably the best F1 game ever whereas odd numbered F12015 didnt even have career mode
EA absolutely destroys anything good they touch. They should see this video and try to actually change instead of continuing on their ruinous course. Make the handling as realistic as possible. Fix basic bugs. Stop adding stupid “features” to try to sell the game - and actually just make the core mechanics better. LISTEN TO PRO ESPORTS DRIVERS!!!!
I loved playing ranked as a change up from career, ranked has ruined the fun of this game for me, sit at a waiting screen for a lobby for a couple of mins at bronze and the start of silver but I got into the top tier silver level and suddenly it became impossible to find a lobby, so it meant I fell all the way down the table on points unless I spent hours on end waiting at loading screens then eventually playing a noob bronze lobby because apparently no one is playing at my level when theirs players gaining points above me ??? Then after one noob lobby race I’m back to sitting at screens telling me i can’t find a lobby, I miss pre ea f1 games so badly, and I’ve been playing since 2015
It's the EA playbook: take popular series, buy the studio out, the game quality degrades, sales will fall, EA will close the studio they bought.
Don’t disagree but Codemasters have been recycling this game for years now. The same issues that existed years before EA bought them are still here. Needed a massive refresh years ago
@@Ryan97NZ2014 - shit
2015 - entirely new engine, great game
2016 - fixed almost all 2015 bugs, career mode new and improved
2017 - new regs and tech tree
2018 - new contracts and interviews and reg changes
2019 - much better graphics, F2, transfers
2020 - My team, great handling, certain redone tracks
2021 - updates for My team, braking point
*EA fully buys Codies*
2022 - 2021 but shit
2023 - 2022 but slightly better
2024 - 2023 but *shit*
Look at that! Codies wasn't at fault!
@@olegpetrovic tbf it started worsening since f1 2021
Codies still make the game mate
2017 - Broken safety car entire game and slipstream didn’t exist online if someone left
2018 - online desync was hilariously bad for the first few months of release and tyre temps were insane
2019 - Actually decent game, some weird handling issues but meh
2020 - 2019 but better at everything despite removing some classic cars
2021 - Basically recycled 2020, new co-op career was broken for months. All classic cars and alternate tracks gone
22 - First EA game, handling was super difficult which I personally liked but many didn’t, focussed on the wrong things such as F1 Life
23 - Basically 22 handling but traction was 10 times easier and slightly more overall grip, red flags were broken the entire game
24 - lmao
Calling 2015 a great game is just straight banter.
@@Ryan97NZ 2015 laid down the foundation for every game since. That's why it was a great leap.
2017 was good, I never had SC issues. 2018 was also completely fine, the desync was patched.
Basically with 2021-2024 you just reinforced my point. If it has EA logo it is shit
Good points mate 👏 Attention to detail is a really good way to put it, as details matter so much to F1 games as unlike other sports games which have bigger scope just with the nature of motorsport vs other sports.
Even here you can’t escape the shed comments
Completely agree. It’s good to see some of the larger creators bind together to voice change.
Yeah agree there's lack of detail another problem for me is the lack of content I'm board of driving the same tracks over and over again I mean in F1 2020 someone moded Sapang bring the short tracks back Hockenheim would also be really easy to add it's on the modern ego engine I so regret buying this game but this is my opinion thank you aarava and Alex of speaking about the issues
The shed needs some Attention
You did way more with mods in the last few seasons of my teams than they did. You deserve way more credit for that mate.
Ive seen this with every EA franchise they’ve bought:
They force developers to prioritize gimmicks (such as f1 world, supercars, story mode, etc).
Take out old features and readd them as “new” content.
Ignore player base feedback, and release yearly games with countless/familiar bugs and reused assets.
EA is nothing but a bunch of parasites and kill every franchise and developers they buy out. They know you’ll buy it. Especially content creators dedicated to their games. Yall just getting straight abused at this point. Golden era is dead and this is what is left: a wasteland.
They don’t give a flying fuck about the art of gaming. They just want your money. Respect yourselves and the money you earn.
Codemasters were already lazy devs before EA bought them out though
@@idexpro8263 Incorrct, you schmuck.
Let’s be real
It’s because they are a part of the cult making everything lame and ghay
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@idexpro8263 Exactly. Codemasters were the ones to introduce the podium pass and micro-transations before ea bought them out for example.
I am so pissed that they cant make simple things right. Like pit limit boards and drs signs. DRS marking board are way of actual place where you can activate it. Pit lane speed limit board having wrong number on it :ú Keep getting penalties/opening drs later just because I use the real boards on road instead of that ugly hud
Very good example of a lack of attention to detail!!
Track limits as well. Singapore has been busted since F1 2015
To this day, you can't physically drive around the run-off boards at Monza's turn 1
I have reported this bug (the missplaced DRS signs) 3 TIMES since the game released and they haven't even cared to respond or acknowledge this glitch a single time, so I gave up reporting bugs. I'm not wasting my free time with this anymore.
@@aloluna1857 Same. I reported this since f1 21/22. They just dont care about it. It isnt something important as I almost everywhere activate drs by memory but I still dont remember speed limits as I go into pits once max twice per race
wanna say when F1 2021 was launching no-one was happy about it, handling was strange, took away short circuits and classic cars. now after 3 years I came back to f1 2021 and in comparison with newer games I have to say it was amazing. F1 franchise is dying and will die in next 2-3 years when ea will see how badly f1 games are selling
I think F1 2021 was pretty well liked, it was 22 where it really started to fall off
I played F1 2020 again. I missed the post race interviews. The unique poses and podium emotes. Sochi 😅. Classic F1 cars.
Just do F1 2020 with F1 23 handling, it would be good.
Just remake
Ai still trounces you on straights no matter what, either done get off the racing line at all or do get off but get right back on as your trying to pass. It’s a copy paste game every year and they charge full price for what’s basically a piss poor DLC that will have the same problems as the previous 3 games.
F1 2021 was my first F1 game but I started a few months before 22 game out and It made me a fan of the series
@@MrWarhead16 F1 2020 handling is far superior compared to F1 23
The most frustrating part of their newer features like F1 Life and F1 World is how much development time was spent towards an utterly pointless cause. If they spent that same time working on things people actually cared about like Career, Online, Handling, etc then we wouldn't have these lack luster games. Games pre 22 almost never had features as pointless as they do now. The only thing saving these games right now is the popularity of the sport and the licenses, I guarantee if they didn't have the licence or there was a rival game with it they wouldn't be getting nearly the sales they do with the lack of improvements since 2021. A real shame considering every game between 2015 and 2020 came with noticeable improvement in quality.
It is mind boggling that they spend so much time adding "features" that even at face value are incredibly lame and appeal to literally nobody. It's like an F1 team neglecting their car to put their aerodynamicists to task improving the airflow around their paddock building.
They dont even want to update circuits year to year. In OFFICIAL game.
It took them 10 years to laser scan SPA
@@pooternutterduken8658which you can download for free anywhere online btw
@@pooternutterduken8658 Another 10 years to probably revamp Monza kerb, like did u see those monza kerbs, barely fits the fat tyres
And it’s also crazy that they use the OLD F2 GRID FOR CAREER MODE. You can’t Even have Antonelli in your career because they need ages to put in the new F2 Season ffs. MotoGP has Moto2 and Moto3 at Launch since how many years? First Game I played was 2015 and it already was there. Also very good inclusion in career where you start in Moto3 and ur not just doing a random F2 Season like on this years career mode
Can’t wait for all these creators complaining every year to accept EA’s money and feature in their promo videos for F1 25 telling us it’s improved massively as they do every year.
Not defending it, but if EA was throwing me cash all the time it would be hard to ignore.
@@sqweeps.03you're defending it.
But game reviews pre release from big creators should always be tken with a grain of salt as buying your way out of producing garbage games.
HAHAHAHAHAH fax
Hi. So way back between 2012 to 2017 I was in QA for Codemasters, mainly focusing on the front end experience and pad functionality. Having kept in touch with a lot of the people there it appears that the QA team has dramatically reduced down in terms of headcount and the testing process from a full end to end point of view has been replaced by getting in influencers to “test”. Obviously these people are not trained QAs and would make sense when you mention bugs are not being fully resolved. For me it sounds like influencers are coming in to test the functionality of an unfinished product which is a massive no no and there feedback is then being considered but not necessarily actioned for whatever reason during the development cycle.
Good video, for me Multiplayer needs a lot of work.
- Massive down time between casual races (loading screens).
- No option to rent a server with selected rules & track roster to reduce lag against drivers on other side of the world.
- If we had rented dedicated servers to play on we could return to those servers for something like a level up system? kind of liked ranked but better
- Host can't even kick more than 1 person at a time if dirty drivers join.
- Host has to rely on everyone else to ready up to even start the race even if it's an event like scheduled league racing.
- If you miss out by seconds in joining a lobby loading screen you miss out on the race and have to sit there doing nothing, maybe let them choose between spectating or practicing a track or start them from the pitlane?
- Very boring damage model and nothing happens to the barrier when you hit it. (Even a downgrade from 2021 damage model)
- Lack of customization in general, can't make fun rules to race with or change car physics for challenges.
- We should be able to start a online lobby by ourselves (not need 2 people) so we can do e.g. league racing practice.
These are just some things I've thought of from the top of my head and there's plenty more I've missed
I noticed that if your car gets hit from behind you get a warning for collision with player "X". Why am I getting a warning for collision when the driver behind hit me??. It's the same dumb penalty system from F1 2020. Prolly because they're using the same engine.
None of the things you mentioned will make it to the game unless some changes are made to the engine. It needs a complete overhaul. The game has become like those recycled Madden and FIFA games. Haven't bought a F1 game since F1 2021.
I've gone back to F1 2014 for shits and giggles. The visual damage is eons ahead of the current games. If it was possible 10 years ago, 2 console generations back, why isn't it possible now?
14:26 Kinda disagree. Codemasters were not exactly an amazing studio before EA. The games before F1 22 shared many symptoms as the EA governed new ones. The problem is that now EA decides things so even if Codies wanted to rise up and do things properly, they will need the green light (read - funds) from EA.
CodeMasters are just as bad tbh. 2014-15 were god awful and the monetisation was awful after 2018. I think they'd be seeing similar numbers without EA as well tbh
Codemasters were amazing... when they weren't doing the F1 game. TOCA, Race Driver Grid... these guys knew how to make a fantastic racing game.
I swear all EA have been doing have just been stripping the game of good features
- Classic cars
- Wet time trial
- Short tracks
- A decent handling model
And then adding pointless ones no one is going to use
- F1 world
- Fanzones
- Compendium
- Supercars
So now all the game really is at least for me is practice for league race, do the league race and repeat, it’s so frustrating having nothing fun to do on this game anymore other than league racing and maybe open lobbies, I tried one race of the ‘reformed’ career and all I see it as is a slightly more complex contract system and some goals you need to reach in career, I managed to qualify 4th in a Williams but the AI were ridiculous in the race especially in a straight line
So yeah I hope EA get replaced by someone who knows what they’re doing like KUNOS (the developers of ac and acc)
agree , lack of innovation and new features are the more disturbing areas.. also their engine is dog compared to ACC or any other race sim. their not fit to make f1 games
Ac and acc are not as great as you think. The AI is crap in acc and no sc or red flag
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 in fairness AC was made like what 9/10 years ago so of course the AI aren’t gonna be great and ACC were made in 2020 so the AI still aren’t gonna be AS good as 2024 AI models with how much they progress
@@JensenR12 F1 games have had good AI since 2017. So this is not an excuse. The kunos games have bad AI and ac evo probably will have bad AI as well since the AI in acc has gotten worse over time in some aspects
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 I get F1 AI has been good but this years are pants, backing out every time they’re in a battle, stupidly long DRS zones, stupid straight line speed etc
And even in KUNOS didn’t get the ai right the first time I wouldn’t be surprised if generally in MOST aspects the game would be better
I've always said its as if they make the game with the intention of the person only playing less than a couple of hours. F1 23 released with a bug where the contracts expired before the season ended because there was 24 races instead of 23. This just shows that they didn't even bother doing 1 season of career mode before releasing the game. This is INSANELY lazy
Yep and they can even do short races / weekends etc. so it's not like it needs to take them forever to test a season.
2.1 hours of play time is the optimal mark, just long enough that you can't refund it and boring enough that you dont play it much and find bugs.
Played f1 2020 after 4 years, decided to not play the current series ever again
Does anyone remember real season start? You could take over from a driver from any race in the season up until the most recent one, and continue it as a career, it was honestly epic, but they took it out after 1 game [2021], and now that I think about it, they will probably add it in f1 26 as a fresh feature 😂
That is classic EA strats. lol
It was in F1 22 as well. The problem is that many people try to forget F1 22 because the game was a mess compared to f1 2020 and 2021.
@@sennescholten7278 It was not in 22. I know because I looked for it
I’d love for Studio Liverpool to magically exist again and pick back up the F1 games
F1 Championship Edition back on the PS3 was magic
Feels like my dad just sat me down and gave me a stern talking to
😐…😜😝😂 110%
“He’s probably right”
He certainly a VIP isn’t he . You think he has a mrs ?
Think he needs a cuddle
He’s not angry.. just disappointed
Honestly, as not an F1 fan, but an F1 absolute fanatic nerd: If 2025 is anything like 22-24, I’ll stick to 2020, GT7, ACC and so on, them not seeing a single penny from my side and many others as well. Cheers for speaking up mate!
Oh are you still here? I gave up 4 years already. Not regretting it, at all.
I'm not an f1 fan but enjoy the racing and im happy playing f1 2019, plus the classic cars are one of my favourite parts and it's not even in the new game. I'm doing laps with 1991 mclaren on interlagos and it's really fun
This is why everyone hates EA. Ever since Andrew Wilson took over, their focus has never been about making an experience that is great for gamers; it has been about how to squeeze as much money out of their players. They can't make more money with a Career mode, or Franchise Mode (If you play Madden, FIFA/FC or NHL). So what do they do? They corner the market by signing an exclusive deal with the league that everyone loves, and then they create a gimmick that they think will get them more money after you purchase the base game. Ever since they bought the license to make F1 games, they have been trying to figure out a way to implement a Ultimate Team style mode for F1 to rake in the money just like they do with Madden, FC, and NHL. They don't care about Career mode or making the AI better. Oh heck no. This is what EA does until the majority of players wake up and stop buying their crap.
The only problem is that their UT model is near impossible with racing games. Racing in itself is supposed to be fair grounds and merit based. Why would anyone bother racing each other with worse cars? The straight line difference alone is enough to turn people off and make them see the game mode as rigged.
And it's also optimised for the wheel, rather than the pad. F1 games aren't the same as FIFA, where pad players twiddle thumbs with next to no effort and get results. Pad playing F1 is a massive handicap and a chore to learn and it's why the casual player base never sticks around much.
Jarno told them the handling was shite and they ignored him. If they don't believe or listen to him then you and everyone else is wasting their breath. At this point they could put Ian Bell in charge and the game would be better!
Nobody should listen to someone about handling who is living outside of the track limits.
Jarno who? Trulli? Don't think so. Or are you talking about a virgin video game racer who's never driven in F1?
@@davidbanner1020 I think you need to read the tile of the video. You know the part where it says "F1 Game." Jarno Trulli, as far as I'm aware, has never played the game let alone won any F1 Game eSports Series so I don't know why you mention him? Now getting back to the "F1 game" I believe the views of a currently competing F1 eSports driver, who for some reason you describe as "a virgin video game racer who's never driven in F1" were worth listening to by the developers.
@@davidbanner1020 The Jarno you're talking about has raced in formula renault and raced against Bottas and Vettel in an off-road tournament last year. The f**k have you done?
This is what happened with fifa, they ignore the guys who criticise the game and just pretend it's all good and have golden boy content creators who don't say a bad word
I watched you, aarava, tiametmarduk, and co review f123 and decided that i no longer wanted to give my money to a company that is treating the game we love as a cash cow. Theres clearly no love or interest from EA theyre doing what every AAA developer does by making "BIG NEW FEATURE" to sell the game and leaving it in a broken state on launch, firing/laying off development teams for underdelivering when theyre crunching to meet rediculous turnaround times, then having to train new teams only to repeat the cycle. The worst thing to come out of the covid pandemic was the level of corporate greed from upper management positions and CEOs of large companies started growing exponentially year on year, and when people stopped having excess money to spend on things they didnt need, the people in power blamed it on the workers for not delivering a good enough product.
Simple things like changing the garage positions each year make a big difference they could learn alot from what Frontier are doing with the progression of f1 manager each year.
Speaking as a competitive player this is the first F1 game I haven’t purchased since 2015 purely because of the handling model. It’s a complete joke it’s still as bad as it is which makes me believe the guy that replaced Greco needs replacing himself.
It’s harsh but this game won’t survive another year like this in my opinion. The playerbase is only getting smaller.
Don't worry, the decline will continue until they don't make enough money with it in their opinion. Then they either actually make a good game or just stop doing F1 games, it is how it works. And not playing and more importantly not buying the next game until something significantly changes is the only language they understand. Forget feedback and bug reports and all that. They only understand money. As long as enough people give it to them, they won't care. Stop throwing money at this series for christ.
The problem is that EA should stop doing ANY KIND OF games, not just F1. FIFA 19 is arguably the start of the EA's decline and when the game got the UEFA license, I was really pissed because PES lost it. And finally EA lost the name FIFA, so I wish only the best for you and everyone who REFUSES to buy any EA product. The only EA game who is consistently good right now is SIMS 4.
You are right, all corporations only speak one language. But it already has designed significantly since EA bought them, so alarm bells are probably already ringing
I even think F1 will stop racing at some point. Just bubbles and cheating.
Every single person who watched this video could stop buying the game and it will do precisely jack point fucking shit.
If you buy EA games, you are the problem, nobody cares about a negative reviews if you give them $70 bucks anyway
Spare a thought for us console players. New career mode is irrelevant and no point in playing my team. Why? because Codemasters and EA have taken out the helmets, gloves and cars etc. It’s not my team if I haven’t got anything to customise. There’s more overalls and helmets etc in the characters house than there is in the game. Podium pass isn’t worth anything anymore. In game bugs are soul destroying….😞
the fact we still can't introduce different wing, floor, side pod and so much more complex figurations, baffles me. I could think of so much that could've been slowly introduced into the game and they haven't done. F1 manager has it all. the main series is so lack luster.
They haven't even updated custom sponsors man in near 5 years! Different configurations is a fantasy 🤣
14:17 Wrong. EA and you do not have the same target. EA does not want to make the best game possible. They want to make money as much as possible. Back in the day what gave you the most money was creating the best possible game but that does not do it anymore. It is important to understand this. If they tried to actually make the best game possible (applies to other developers as well btw) we would have insanely great games nowadays, much better than the ones we currently call the best game out there today.
Interesting point, but I guess it depends how high you go. EA as a company exists to make money, as do the shareholders and the people that report to the shareholders. The devs themselves though just want to make the best game they can
i agree hot take but i think that the og ps2 Ratatouille is way better than most games now the graphics of Ratatouille are obviously worse but that doesn't matter in a game i recently replayed it and i still enjoyed it same with ac brotherhood brotherhood is an absolute banger love the game and than there are the shit ac games from nowadays except for mirage they did a good job at making it a good game
@@AlexGillon I agree the devs are probably doing their best most likely, you don't become game developer to create mediocre video games. They can only work with what they are given though and it appears nowadays that is not enough - probably talking about time most importantly. And I bet there are marketing analysis and all that fun stuff (which are not actually fun) that prevent the approach to have a base game and improve on that year after year until you get the best product possible - because that is not the shareholders goal ultimately, so the devs have their hands tied and that will likely never change. It literally cannot change when you have to press out a game yearly. I mean look at FIFA... how's that model supposed to work better in any shape or form for F1 games?
Microtransactions make alot of money reason Fifa and ultimate team make alot of money and game barely changes
@@AlexGillon F1 isn't ea money maker same with NHL, NFL , money is where they want, reason Ultimate team and any places where microtransactions can be put will be FiFa the best exemple it is a huge major money maker and they barely adapted, battlefield and star wars Battlefront both died because of microtransactions and lack of understanding the community behind it. money money money EA CEO and shareholders making all the money is all they care , dev are forced to do this because the money heads only want more money without realizing that good game make more money but it take more time yet that not what they want they want money now and that all they care about maybe a few do care but the bigger heads and shareholders don't
Oh, well, that case of shipping half-baked "headline features" every itteration is what we call in project management a company turned into a "feature factory", when the main incentive and metric for the teams is on shipping new features regardless of their actual use case or maturity.
So glad I didn’t waste my money this year.
F1 20 F1 23 👌
Personally, I'm with many of the comments below that EA shouldn't have the license and another dev should be given the rights to it. The game for console players in my opinion is so boring after the first season and now that PC players have less mods to play with, they're seeing the lack of design and longevity the core game actually offers. I know how great this game COULD be, after how long it's been around - how good it SHOULD be but I do not believe that Codemasters or EA have any idea what people playing this game actually want. The sad thing is, what we generally want isn't even outlandish or overly difficult to implement because they are largely little tweaks and refinements. Too many features have been lost that were good, too many pointless features added to show off irrelevant brand collaborations rather than improving playability or enjoyment.
The bugs that have persisted year after year are mind-numbing. I have gone from someone who would pre-order the new game the day it was announced to not even bothering with this years at all and only getting 2023 when it was 90% off just to see if it was an improvement. I don't trust the company is willing or able to deliver anything I'd consider worthwhile anymore and the game that I once loved is just a distant memory.
I went back to f1 23 and just starting a new career mode. F1 24 is just not fun. Ai just follow each other, lack of alternative tyre strategies The way the cars handles and just pretends kerbs don't exist on 24 really kills any sense of reward when your trying to put a good lap together. On 23 when u put a good lap in u feel like u did that and not the systems on the handling manipulating the car
These things are more apparent when you go back to f1 23 and realise how much better it is. I did back to back races at imola on 23 and 24 and 24 had no battles, a huge train. On 23 we had ai being aggressive and overtaking as soon as they had a chance. The battles on 23 are so so fun and bring the race alive.
If you did a blind test on these 2 games im sure most if not all will say 23 is the newer game and 24 is the older one. Which makes u question what are u paying the money for. Being a big f1 fan I will still buy f1 25 and that's the fans ea like to take advantage of. The fans who will buy the game no matter what, same problem with fifa
Who else misses the F1 2020 feature where you can PAUSE DURING THE LOADING SCREEN?! To change wheather settings and time of day? before loading in? instead of loading in first and then again to change all the things you want.....
And difficulty i think right?
f1 2020 was such a good game. The ERS was fine. There weren't that bad of DRS trains. But mainly, the handling was so good. I don't understand how it's gone this bad.
Because nobody is saying anything bad about it. Everyone wants to stay on their good side,to get the game 3 days before everyone else. Every year,it's the same game or worse,but everyone praise them and beg them to take your money every year,for the worse game. That slightly change a few things,just so it looks little bit different and like they did something. Remember the hype when they announced red flags? LoL That was funny. Everyone disable it now,because its shit. The same 4 seconds every time and back to the grid. Even safety car is still broken. Steonger leagues, have ghosting on for the quali,because there is no dirty air this year,but DRS amd slipstream is too powerful. And they should run esports on this game? Its a joke. And if you continue to stay silent,nothing will change. In fact,it will only get worse
In the end this is good, Codemasters were never really competent enough to hold the f1 licence, the sales just need to fall below what the licence costs and we'll finally see some other developer pick it up and do it properly. The best outcome would be for us to see the exclusive licence not be a thing anymore.
The slipstream/dirty air balance just ruins racing. Racing should not feel artificial like this year. In real f1 if you are faster u want to pass as soon as possible. In the game you can just sit in the other guys drs save tyres and ers because dirty air is nonexistent. Nobody wants to see 24/7 drs trains and the power of drs/slipstream just limits the strategy options in league races.
I must say Alex, your Email to EA was thoughtful and intelligent, and well written. If EA had any sense (or lack of Corporate greed) they would have taken your advice 🤝
Great points, I bought year on year and my “breaking point” was after getting “My Team” through a hard successful year clawing from the back to mid field, expecting my garage to be moved up and….
F1 22 killed a lot of people’s hope hence the sales drop with 23. Sad part is that 23 was a big improvement. People began to hope again and then 24 game out with its arcade style handling and people just hate it
F1 24 it's just such an awful arcade handle, horrible indeed
You never want EA to take control of a series, look at Madden and NHL, they always remove features and rarely improve their games.
F1 24 was the first F1 game I refunded
If you think the f1 bugs are bad f2 is even worse. Last year it was impossible to do a full weekend because you had the same hard tyre you already used in the sprint, for the feature. THIS BUG WAS NEVER FIXED.
It also sucks that games that were really good like f1 2020 aren't even available to buy on steam anymore because they want you to buy the new game at full price.
I forgot about that, I still can't believe it. I was so pissed because I was never able to get f12020 on steam
@@MBF120 yeah same here. Super annoying!
Great video, you said it all well. Ranked was a nightmare in 23. I am a trophy hunter so I needed to get to Elite. It was a frustrating experience because I couldn't find lobbies. Barely 5 players, everyone would disconnect before the session started. My progress was reset because there was new podium pass season or whatever... For a casual player career mode is unplayable after season and a half because car will become a boat with enough upgrades while AI isn't affected. This thing has been in the game since F1 2021! I wish so much that I could enjoy career mode like I did in 2018, 19, 20. And of course the technical state of the game is horrible every single year. They probably don't even playtest it.
We are league racing again on F1 2020 now😅 Still is just so complete, shame they drifted in such a direction
Classic cars were one of the best additions ever. Instead of adding to it or even adding classic tracks they replaced it with supercars🫠
@mobux-dk3yj Which then got removed for 2024
u guys on xbox?
This is the first f1 game I have not bought since f1 97. I refused to waste any money on a rehash of the last 3-4 games. I’m so glad I’ve not wasted my money, based on this review which sums up everything else I’ve read in recent months. F1 manager has been a better purchase in recent years.
My first F1 Game was 21 and I put probably 200+ hours into it. F1 22 and 23 were both massive letdowns for me in comparison. The handling always felt like I was constantly skating around and I never felt comfortable. I eventually had to put flashback on because I got so frustrated never understanding why my car was spinning out even though I was focusing on my throttle control.
Obviously you can say skill issue for me but it just never felt good to me. I play sports games usually for career mode and it’s just not good tbh. I didn’t bother picking up 24 this year I might pick it up when it hits under $30 bucks.
My first game was 2020 with over 400 hours played, then I played 100 hours in 21 and haven't played newer ones at all.
The 2020 is the best handling...have all the classic car 😍. You really miss something lol .2021 is really bad .2022 is more bad .and 23 and 24 is like a remix of 21 and 22 😂
Stopped buying the games this year as I’m tired of being let down year after year for extortionate prices. The only way they will realise is if a mass amount of people will just not buy the f1 games that follow in the years to come. Even if that kills the franchise in some ways I think that’s better than constantly kicking and spitting in the faces of fans who care about the game only to fry up a rehashed version of a previous game.
Preface this with saying I'm still on F1 23, but the one thing that I see the most with the lack of polish is the subtitles. Ever since they bought in the female co-commentator, the subtitles don't match what's being said. Crofty will ask her something, but the subtitles will be asking Anthony a completely different question. If they can't be bothered fixing something as small and simple as that, what hope for anything bigger?
Nevermind that the game menus are a confusing mess, I don't do single races anymore because they've made it so damn hard to. I cannot navigate nor understand what hoops the game wants me to do. Remember when you could just choose 'Single Race' and in one game at least, even decide the grid order so a Minardi was on pole? That was fun! Let me take my MyTeam car into a single race, and just make that a simple thing to do.
People want the ultimate F1 experience, and that's not buying wardrobes, or driving supercars. It's F1. People want F1 cars and tracks, modern and historic. Look at what modders bring to iRacing, the demand is there, but no-one official wants to make that.
Games are supposed to be fun and limited only by your imagination, and I don't see why racing games should be any different. Give us historic tracks and let us put 2024 cars on them if we want! Heck, give us world renowned circuits, that F1 would never go to, like Le Mans or Daytona! Let us choose our dream season of historic and crazy circuits. Make racing games fun again, dammit!
Sorry for the rant, but this has been building for a while.
Alex thank you so much for being another creator using your platform to thoughtfully articulate this franchise's inadequacies. I am a league racer on this game of several years, and a Texan who like many Americans absolutely fell in love with Formula 1 in recent years (even though I'd like to think I was a bit ahead of the curve lol.) Our league was at one point up to SEVEN divisions with full grids of full time drivers and several reserves in every division showing up every single Thursday night to compete against each other on this game. Now it's down to 2 with 15 drivers each race if we're lucky, almost exclusively because of how quickly this game has fallen off. Our lobbies are almost always glitched out every single week with desyncs being a common occurrence even though we have every player pass an internet speed test. Every single week. Not to mention the lack of customizable liveries, racing suits, helmets.. it's like the game is made by some sort of AI developer with massive adhd and zero awareness of what the actual Formula 1 fans and long term players in this franchise want. IMO the writing was on the wall the minute classic cars were stripped. What a massive "fuck you" to anyone who cares about the rich history of this sport or even casual players who want a challenging extra game mode.
This is the official game franchise for, quite literally, the most technologically advanced sport on our planet and it feel's like a step or two above a cheap mobile game. It's fucking sad, honestly. The Formula 1 game, like the teams and drivers, should be an *exceptional* product every single year. We want detail, we want great craftsmanship, we want immersion, we want more. We want an experience with this game. Instead we get mediocrity and a complete lack of respect for our time, resources, and energy from a giant company who seems to just be a shell of what it once was even if the wallets of their executives don't reflect it. I am not exaggerating when I say every time I play this game there is at least always one moment where I wonder if the people who make this game actually despise me. And the wild thing is I know without a doubt a staggering number of other players feel the same.
Keep up the honest critique and we will continue to support you. The world needs a great Formula 1 game made by people who actually give a fuck.
I really hope F1 gaming license will be non-exclusive. Best games and most interesting features we've got when there were several licensed F1 games every year from different developers - end of 90s, beginning of 00s
mods are just a given at this point mate. turn off the in game osd and set up an overlay on sim hub, u can change the names that way too
Knew this would happen as soon as EA got their dirty hands on this… got my copy of 22 refunded and havent gone back…
You say it's not EA. As a adamant FIFA player. It is defo EA. They do not care about these smaller bugs like the weather display for example. They use the same code every year this is why you get recurring bugs like the formation lap one or the Equal performance one. I once saw a reddit post from a supposed EA employee who said they space their bugs out into 4 categories
1. Game-breaking highest priority
2. quite annoying and costs the company money (I.E. pitcoin purchase glitches or the equal performance bug, forcing players OFF the game meaning they wont spend money while in there)
3. quite annoying and doesn't cost the company money (i. E. the weather glitch, yes its annoying but it doesn't make you play the game less probably)
4. minor visual bugs etc
F1 will fall under the same curse as FIFA where itll deteriorate every year until either they close the studio or someone finds a loophole to create a competitor in the F1 games. Only then will we potentially see changes for the better. I absolutely hate that this is what it became too.
Also there are simple things they could do like, in own team career mode, give options for car design to choose like let's say that if ferrari with the bathtub design body, or the redbull down wash, merc with zero pods, those general designs we can choose for our team car. Not just that different configurations of rear wing for high down force, medium down force, low down force. Exploring the beam wings,
The guys at EA were probably laughing when they read that not changing the handling model will affect the sales of the game. I bet they are not laughing now.
Ea is renowned for terrible games. Of course it’s going to be crap, they don’t even have pit stops that aren’t a joke
The fact that you can no longer buy the old F1's on Steam makes it even worse. Games like F1 2021 will be lost forever because it hasn't been pirated yet and you can't buy it either
I don’t understand why the games aren’t just live service with a new one coming out each regulation change
Just remember the ultra realistic driving physics when the game released and everyone defended it.
What kills me is how is the official game of F1 not even have accurate tracks. The fanzone is just a waste of space. F1 world waste of space. The series have no new content. They should work side by side with creators and build a game
F1 zone and F1 world, what a joke. Along with the furniture shit 😂
I agree 100% and what I don’t understand with games is the ps1 and early ps2 where updates wasn’t physically possible it was a finished game on the disc from release, they managed to get everything right and it just worked till the next one was released
If the game wasn't complete, it wouldn't sell.
Nowadays people will preorder digital copies...
If they can sell it for more and make it for less, they will.
As an NFL fan and F1 fan.. as soon as I saw EA get codemasters I knew it would be over... seen them destroy Madden Franchise year after year and leverage the exclusivity license and its the same for F1 now...
FIFA made the right call to seperate from EA.
As soon as you give EA an exclusivity license they will do all they can to make mediocre improvements to show 'progress' but keep the game unplayable until you buy the next one under the same hope that things will improve. Its so tiresome as a consumer - I flat out refuse to buy EA games. Only ever download once its free on PS Plus.
Yes please, more creators finally criticising the F1 Game and devs/ EA etc, finally!
EA/ Devs just don't even fix long standing bugs any more, even those from past versions.
Nothing will change at all. Which is very common with EA products.
Goal is not for us to enjoy it more, but for it to generate more money. I think frustration is intentional, like supermarket queues and music. People spend more when frustrated.
No surprise that once EA got their hands on it it’s gone down the shitter. They don’t care about offline career modes, gameplay, they only care about how much money it makes. Just like they’re obsession with Ultimate Team and FIFA
Me and my mate have played two-player career weekly, almost without fail, since F1 22. We both hop online every tuesday and do the next race on the calendar. It's fun. With F1 22 & 23, we would both play independently during the week in our single player career, time trial, whatever, and that would sort of keep us sharp and act as practice for when we raced. It's been a blast. But 24 is the first time that we both admitted last week that we haven't actually been playing outside of our two-player career this year. I thought it was just me but it turned out he's done the exact same. We don't want to stop our two-player career, but we absolutely wish there was another option than just F1 to do this in. I think if it wasn't for us both genuinely just having fun playing the game with each other, we would have both stopped playing a while ago. I just don't like the feeling of this year's game (for context, we're not hardcore sim racers, just regular controller guys having a good time taking our seasons semi-serious without going overboard), and it's sad. What makes it worse is that each time we play, we both know there is a chance on any given Tuesday that the game will just break, sometimes completely screwing up several hours into our race weekend session and we've had to literally skip races before because they've become broken and unfinishable. For whatever reason, if a race breaks for us once, it's almost guaranteed to break the same way again on a retry, even if we come back another day. Like it's baked into the scripting of that race somehow.
Honestly if the majority of people just didn't buy it one year I guarantee you the majority of the major issues would magically be fixed. As it stands it's an easy guaranteed income for EA and FOM with minimum investment.
Only thing that might really help is buying a buttkicker to feel the rear. I have it under my seat and increased sensitivity which helps. Maybe this years game was focused on how hard they really are to drive?
Diminishing returns that you get with annual releases. Each yearly purchase of a full price game is essentially a software update. Same game new lick of paint.
F1 manager has better graphics.
Features added then taken away e.g. classic cars.
also the dev teams are split between the years, one team does one year while the other team works on the other
that tied with their spaghetti code is why we keep seeing bugs swing back around because they don't know how to manage their source control and publishing, its basic fundamental software engineering stuff that they fail at
it's also why we end up with braking point every other year
only expect this to get far worse as the business side tries to cut corners by putting in more AI based dev processes to save money
i've got very low hope for 25 because its the 23 / 21 team doing it
Yep it's what happened with fifa, more and more bugs each year because the devs who made the original game it's based from (fifa 17) don't work there anymore and they don't even understand the game themselves. And live updates always come with random glitches because of it
I am gonna start with, I DO apreciate this vid.😂
Anyway, here are my points of details they should do for next year atleast!
1. Bring back the handling of F1 23 in the slow corners except for the rear locking meta.
2. Keep the new ERS management system but bring back the deployment/recharge features the previous f1 games had.
3. Get rid of F1 World thus you have more time to upgrade the other game modes.
4. Listen to the community more often! But that is probs everyones point as well😂
I love how the poll result from 9 years ago still pretty much exactly agrees with what you said today.
And you're absolutely right. I've been playing the F1 games since 2015 (even though I played F1 2012 in 2015, don't ask) and have spend thousands of hours over the years. Since then I pretty much bought the game every year, sometimes even getting the premium editions in pre-order. Yet, I haven't bought the last three games...
Exactly. 9 years and nothing has changed. It didn’t just suddenly become a problem when EA took over
i personally think its partly ea and partly a lack of competition, if multiple studios were given the licence i think the quality would increase substantially.
I dont enjoy the 24 game. I used to like the 23 game until i got a new wheel that has no support for it.
The little things are stacking up. Why aren't we able to switch between cars in the showroom while having the HUD invisible? Why are there only a handful helmets? Why are the DRS boards at the wrong places? Why can't we preview the unlockables in the season pass?
They just do not care anymore.
Well said Alex…I haven’t bought F1 24 and don’t intend to!
Instead, I bought a CD Key for F1 2019 and play my brother with the Classic Cars…
its the same with ea wrc so lackluster its so bland and generic minimum effort thats what happens when ea take over i guess
Much like with the FIFA/FC series, each year's release is revolution not evolution. They add new shiny features without refining the game and fixing existing issues. I can name you glaring problems in FC 24's career mode that have been around since FIFA 14.
I moved to iracing a year or so ago and have not looked back for a single second. The actual F1 car in iracing is not heavily used but the Super Formula (Formula B, SF23) and SFL Light are both fantastic series with really good participation.
While I agree with much of what you say I genuinely don’t agree with what you’ve said about listening to creators and esports players. There’s been plenty of examples of developers fucking up games for normal people by acting on the whims of ‘pros’.
Why couldn't they code into the game Lewis going to Ferrari? It's the little things that they miss but this one thing is a huge deal that needed to be implemented into the game
Thanks for the video, mate! Totally agree with you-attention to detail is key, and they really need to do something about the bugs! I've seen the same bugs over and over again. And like you said, if only they'd play the game, they would've seen those bugs. I’d also love it if they brought triple screen support, but that's more of a wish😄
I've said this many times: EA seems to have absolutely NO QA team. It's borderline ridiculous
They don't need that for the sports games, as the same idiots buy them annually anyway...
@@Zeverinsen 😞 as the song goes that's so... "sad but truuuuuue"
I can't help but draw parrallel with the Forza situation. Both tried to go for "headline features" but due to lack of focus (probably derived from time and ressources constrains) couldn't get the fundamentals right. Yes, I like added features that give some spice, but the core experience done right is what makes people go back and play again. Else, the game looks like a Potemkine village with a lot of flash but little substance.
I'd take Gran Turismo rather than Forza because even with half the cars, no "builders cup", no car-RPG system, it still does the fundamentals better, it feels polished and you feel like you're immersed in a car with lots of coherent details made by passionnate people. I'd have more fun playing ACC than F1 even without a career mode or "F1 World" because once again, the fundamentals of driving and immersion are done better. Doesn't need to be exactly "more realistic" (hence my GT, hardly a full-sim, example), it just need to be a more cohesive experience.
Honestly as a not only a F1 fan as a racing fan in general seeing this downfall of most racing games is sad EA bought Codemasters and they destroyed all their hard work they did codies were goated the Dirt rally series the old ones collling mcrae the F1 2012 F1 2013 F1 2018 F1 2020 all those games are goated in they own respective way bcs codemasters made them for the fans for the experience of the fans it was not just a cash grab like it is right now with EA they are doing the same with Need for Speed series the only good NFS game they made in the last 10 years in my opinion is Heat and it had flaws before that most of the other NFS games were utterly terrible they stopped making games for the sake of fans it's all just a fking cash grab and that is sad in the day where the technology is at it's peak where racing games should be thriving they are falling off big time
I'm still quite happy playing F1 2019 - I never bothered with the newer ones just due to the reviews 😂 might upgrade to 2020 at the end of my current career mode, but probably won't go much further..
The issue with the handling is that ea or Codies doesn’t know how a balanced handling works or can’t make one a f1 car has arguably the most downforce from any racing car so it’s unbelievable to me that the car doesn’t turn in at all or straight up understeer from entry to exit iracing brings out the merc from 21 and 22 and I instantly see that the car turns in and response Like what a f1 car should do …. And imo what’s a complete no go is changing the handling 3 times and also tweaking the assist . Using assist should never help no assist user gaining lap time or be able to get close to there no assist time … assist should punish a player 0.7 at least casual players I believe wouldn’t be annoyed but you seriously can’t cry about it if you compete in league racing with assist against no assist users and they smash you in quali by 0.7 and in the race best you by 30sec … its seriously time we get the changes we want simple this is f1 and not Ea Fc 24 you need to put effort in to make better sells and more money and not add pitcoins add a Store with random stuff because people don’t care if the handling is good and there are nearly no bugs (like f1 2018) the game is fine and the sells are good win/win situation
Not to mention, they made Max cheating
EA just doesn't listen
Simpe answer, EA - Focus more on microtransactions, not on actually to imrpove the game. Charge full prize for a re-skin of the game and slide upgrade. They are really far away to undarstand what fans wants.
This is what EA does. They take good games and suck them dry. Sims 4 & Madden are prime examples. EA ignores their fan base and pumps out new features, While ignoring bugs and gameplay issues with the game. This isn't a new thing. EA does this because they know the fanbase will keep buying the game regardless. While It's the same with sims 4. They keep releasing expansion packs and other DLC, but never fix the bugs. The game is so broken that it is impossible to fix now. With Madden it is the same game each year just reskinned. F1 is experiencing the same thing.
Honestly, I don't see the F1 series dying out completely...It will suffer the same fate as Madden and other EA games. There will be just enough diehard fans that will keep buying the game to keep it alive. The fans wanting an F1 experience will keep it going. Unless F1 Manager gives EA enough competition there is really no motivation to make better games if they can keep money flowing without having to spend more money on making a better game.
And also in f12020 the gradual acceleration and handling for keyboard players was good, but since 2021 they forgot about keyboard players. There are a lot of ppl who can afford game but not the sim setup
Two letters: EA
Codies are still the developers
The amount of times Alex stares into my soul in this video
F1 24 released way too early in the year, these games should be released no earlier than mid-June - just look at the AI issues, the handling model, the tire model (realistic to an extent, but still) and the ERS systems which the AI can't even use to their fullest.
F1 25 needs to be a big step forward for the series.
Unless there is some sort of massive rule or technical change, there is almost no reason to be putting out these yearly releases. Make them every 2 years with a discounted upgrade / patch / DLC in the off year to account for driver / team / livery changes. That way they can spend the time to make each full release new, FULLY COMPLETED and with unique modes / scenarios
Yeah, but that wouldn't be as profitable for them now, would it?
That's all they card about.
Your next video should be about the pattern of even numbered F1 games being awful…and that ERS system needs reverting for the next game, it doesn’t even work like that IRL, that & the excessive understeer in the dirty air of other cars contribute to the worst F1 game since 2015 imo. i’ve gone back to playing 23 & will only come back to 24 for the new F2 cars in a few months & then bin it again.
They do have 2 different teams working on the odd and even games, but I don't think it's fair to say one is inferior to the other, especially as certain things don't have that split, like handling. Codemasters have always tended to over react every other year as well, it predates the 2 separate development teams
I get your point more recently but thinking further back even numbered F12020 was arguably the best F1 game ever whereas odd numbered F12015 didnt even have career mode
EA absolutely destroys anything good they touch. They should see this video and try to actually change instead of continuing on their ruinous course.
Make the handling as realistic as possible. Fix basic bugs. Stop adding stupid “features” to try to sell the game - and actually just make the core mechanics better.
LISTEN TO PRO ESPORTS DRIVERS!!!!
I loved playing ranked as a change up from career, ranked has ruined the fun of this game for me, sit at a waiting screen for a lobby for a couple of mins at bronze and the start of silver but I got into the top tier silver level and suddenly it became impossible to find a lobby, so it meant I fell all the way down the table on points unless I spent hours on end waiting at loading screens then eventually playing a noob bronze lobby because apparently no one is playing at my level when theirs players gaining points above me ??? Then after one noob lobby race I’m back to sitting at screens telling me i can’t find a lobby, I miss pre ea f1 games so badly, and I’ve been playing since 2015