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Good video. I used the train for many years to get to school in Georgetown. It was reliable and also a great place to meet people as you could move freely from one carriage to the next even when the train was in motion. Once the train reached Georgetown, my classmates and I would form a group and gingerly walk to school together. If you went to school in Georgetown but lived east of the city, you went to school by train. You got to meet and make friends with students from other schools and other villages. The train was not just a means of transportation but also a way to bring people together. The train ride was never boring since there were always people to talk to or if you preferred, a good place to read or study. Most students purchased a pass that was good for the school term. The driver blew the horn before the train reached the station. Nevertheless, people were often late for the train and it was not unusual to see people, running in overdrive behind a moving train trying to get on. I remember doing so myself one Saturday and consider myself lucky to have caught the train without loss of life or limb. Of course, there were the "pros" who waited until the train was moving rapidly before jumping on. The same "pros" would wait until the train was travelling even faster before jumping off. Some trains were Express and travelled non-stop from Georgetown to Mahaica. The trains would then stop at all of the remaining stations to Rosignol. Most rail cars were classified as "third class". They were fine and had comfortable wooden seats. However, if you wanted softer seats, and a greater chance of a seat on a crowded train, you could pay more and opt for "first class". I loved when "Smokie" pulled the train. Smokie was what we called the steam powered engines. Smokie huffed and puffed. It belched smoke and steam and had a steam whistle. If the load was too heavy, its wheels would slip as it tried to grip the rails and start pulling the rail cars along. Smokie was determined not to let you down. There were diesel powered engines as well. They were more powerful but not as "sexy". Rail cars of different vintages had their own character. You could often tell the type of car you were in just from listening to the sound made by the wheels. The sound was different if the axle spacing on the cars was not the same. When Guyana became independent in 1966, Canada gave it two diesel locomotive as a gift and they were put into service on the East Coast railway system. The names of the locomotives were Ottawa and Maple Leaf. They had more power and faster acceleration and were a great addition to the system. The decision to close the railways was not a popular one and very shortsighted. Even though a lot of time has passed, serious thought should be given to putting parts of it back into service. Railways are subsidized all over the world and are not meant to be cash cows. The country needs an efficient and reliable transportation system and such a system does not currently exist. A railway would be a step in the right direction. I am surprised that you were not aware that Buxtonians stopped the train. No history of Guyana is complete without it. Maybe they don't teach it in history class anymore. Anyway, a google search of "Buxton People Stop Train Guyana" should provide you with lots of information on that topic.
Wow. That sounds like a beautiful experience. Unfortunately, I was too young to have an opportunity to ride the train. But I agree fully, we should bring it back into service, that is the direction the world is going. Also thanks for the heads up about the Buxtonians. You are correct, they do not teach that story. It's a pity.
I caught the 6:00am train to get to Georgetown to school. And yes, I jumped on at the back of the train as it was leaving the station because I was late.
Wow, your history of the trains brought good memories for me. We traveled from Plaisance to Georgetown. My father bought us a monthly pass, which if I remember correctly was called a contract. My brother and sister and myself traveled with cousins in first class.
Watching from Queens 👸 NY USA 🇺🇸. Many people never knew there were ever passenger & freight trains 🚂 in Guyana. Many years ago, the Queen 👸 visited Guyana 🇬🇾. She travelled on the train 🚂 standing at the back & waving 👋 to the crowd along both sides of the railway 🚃 line. I was also in that crowd with my family. I also rode the train 🚂 on a school trip from vreed-en-Hoop to Parika Market & back the same day. The freight train used to transport molasses. I love ❤️ your video. Thank you 🙏 for uploading. Appreciate it. I’ve subscribe.
For The Culture Guyana: That’s so true. For instance, Cheddi Jagan International Airport was originally the British Army Airport Base. It was also known as The Base. Also, the location was chosen because of it’s height.
I worked that railroad for years now you know my age , the kids that went to school in Georgetown daily there was a food train that came in and T&HD allowed them to eat in the carriages of the Bermuda trains . Look what you have today thousand of mini buses and high fare no food
It was truly a unique experience for everyone who was there to have experienced it. Do you think the government should consider building a new rail system to match current population areas?
Burnham didn't have any regards for the preservation of history and culture. He had other plans!....plans that failed consistently. Today his legacy lives on thru' APNU. Thumbs up to you for this very informative video.
Sorry to say I'm neither of the two. But let's be fair if you have any sense of fairness, the PPP preserved democracy to a greater extent than did the PNC now called APNU. And let me point out here that the PPP is not without its faults! So, yes it's true local elections were absent since '94, not 23 years! DO you know the reason why? Please find out. However, when the PPP lost the elections in 2015 they packed up and left office peacefully. That's democracy by international standards. Now, in May 2020 what is APNU still doing in office after having lost the elections abysmally in March in front of the world ! Is this your definition of the preservation of democracy? Just be fair. I wear no political hat. Peace.
For the culture guyana, I use to live in kitty not too far from the railway and as a little boy in the 1960s l would get up at 4 am to see the first train and to listen for the whistle. Also, as wicked little kids, my friends and l use to put Milo and Ovaltine cans on the railway line so as to derail the trains, lol.
Great video my friend, my grandpa used to tell us about the railroad when we were small. Would like to see it up and running again. Thanks for the info.
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Good story. I remember going to the Plaisance station for bread in the afternoon from harlequin bakery in the city, and stealing molasses from the tank when the train rolled in. Those were the days living in Plaisance.
@@ForTheCultureGuyana some of the best days of my childhood. Going into the back dam for picnics, fishing and swimming in the cane field canal or at the beach. Stealing a ride from someone's animals or the fruit trees. Every time I come home, I have to spend time in Plaisance.
Good info. I rode it from Newtown Kitty to Mahaica as child around 1970. Nice memories. You forgot to tell the tale of how the Buxtonians stopped the train 😃
Do some reviews of the food culture. It's one of the most interesting aspects of Guyana and you can't go wrong because all the political parties love food!
You're right everybody loves good food and we have alot of it in Guyana! We touched on it lightly in a previous video ua-cam.com/video/w6NQN39XjbQ/v-deo.html . But we'll definitely do some reviews in the future.
Crazy to think that upgrading from steam to Diesel locomotives were deemed ‘too expensive’ of an upgrade for England back then. I think maybe they were beginning to understand that guyana wanted independence and just decided to stop spending money on the railway. Great video, very informative. Trains would be very beneficial to our country today, especially with the increasing traffic congestion and fatalities of the current public transportation system.
I travelled on that railway with my mother the 1950's up to 1962, they were steam driven locomotives at that time. We travelled from Georgetown to Golden Grove, east coast Demerara to visit my grandmother. We then continued up to Rosignol where the railway ended on west bank of the Berbice river, and then took a ferry across the river to New Amsterdam and onto Plantation Albion by a taxi to visit my Aunt and Uncle. At that time the railway was efficiently operated. The problem began when Guyana became independent; Forbes Burnham saw it as a symbol of British Imperialism and made a colossal mistake( one of many) and dismantled it. Canada gave us two brand new modern diesel locomotives as an Independence gift, but Burnham sold it along with all the railway lines to an African country. It was a slap in the face of the Canadian government. Railways are one of the most efficient ways in transporting goods and people as can be seen worldwide, the only person with a limited ability to comprehend this was Forbes Burnham.
He had to scrap the railroad because T&HD was a strong brotherhood Which he used to bring down the jagan government , he decided that will never happen to him
Great video. All the worlds rich economies depends on reliable transportation for its population. And they all have their own rail way system. In New York we have The subway, LIRR etc. As the video shows villages along the rail way prospered. It needed to be properly run to remain sustainable. But revenues generated went else where. The decision to close the railway was made by some one who never thinks about the future economy of Guyana. Had No insight. Those are the worst politicians who don’t think ahead. Sadly we still have them in 2020. I honestly believe the rail way today would have been a major part of Guyana’s economic development.
Every day I would see the rural children walking in groups from/to the Train station (Lamaha/Carmichael sts.) to their schools at Central High/ Muslims College, etc. The british/americans messed up Guyana. Unfortunately, power is more important than progress
@@harrypaul7329 Great rhetorical question? The "Mea Culpa" belongs to the arrogance and "self-opinionated ness" of a couple power-drunk, political oligarchs of that era; neither the British nor US-Americans are responsible - SOLELY.
@@israelkingston2635 Let's modify: The Dutch Europeans, British Europeans and the United States Europeans - the so-called "white" peoples - were solely responsible for initially sowing the tempestuous seeds of Racism (1846/1847) especially among Guyanese Africans and Guyanese East Indians. Those days of European socio-economic strangulation are lessened comparatively; they will never be eradicated totally; capitalism will not permit the annihilation - never. Those seeds of racial discord had reignited (1955-1962, 1964), and have blossomed into gigantic trees of Apaan Jaat prejudices, biases, bigotry, political corruption, police brutality, and self-hatred specifically among one ethnic group of Guyanese - the Guyanese Africans. Guyana is now infested with pockets of (political) oligarchs whose duty is to cling to power by all means available and unavailable, to amass wealth to the Nth degree and effect racial superiority while the Guyanese citizenry exists below the poverty index. Blame not the British and United States Europeans for the PRESENT, abysmal decadence that threatens the very lives of the Guyanese poor. By the by, to what documents do you allude? To those documents presented by Mike Pompeo, United States ex-president Trump's secretary of state and by Barbados Mia Mottley, who had directed the resolution of the 2018-2020 electoral controversy in Guyana? If yes, then you are partially in the right! Lohvissimo, my friend.
I would like to see you do one for the LBI sugar estate and not much people living to say about those past generations or generations the logee at LBI estate please do it early
The sugar industry has a rich and long history in Guyana, and the sugar estates of the East Coast were once an integral part of it. Thanks for the suggestion, we'd love to do a video on it. But you are also correct. There are few who are alive to speak on it. Do you know of anyone who would like to share? Be sure to contact us.
@@ForTheCultureGuyana go in the village of LBI and ask the have a woman on the second street name aunty finee and the last street his name is uncle bogo or check the LBI mosque in the evening and then you have one more hard working person by the name of joyce
Rising Cost of fuel does not add up to scrapping the cheapest form of transportation, it meant to adapt to using more expensive gasoline to fill that void...not many will buy into this excuse, while the rest of the world was building and refining their railway systems.
It can come back just a little clean up with in the county Burnham made a lot of mistake. When the british build something leave it do not broke it. Past government officials do not know the value
Just cleaning it need and good craftman to rebuild the box car you think india yangon and those place get ridden of them it still exits and working today
@@johnadam3707 I believe that I just read it today that they are in fact doing this. I support it, because it keeps the originality of the place. Such as cities like New Orleans, San Fransisco.
@@trevelcanterbury5348 Hopefully we see better behavior on the roads from them as they will have to compete with a safer and similarly priced travel option if trains return.
Many memories of riding the WCD (DeKendren to Parika) railway. This young man (presenter) speaks clearly and has good diction. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for many TV hosts and presenters in Guyana. Mohamed R.
That is an experience we wish we could've had. Thanks for watching the video and I'm glad you liked it. Be sure to subscribe for more videos and share with your friends and family so they can also learn more about our country.
I am disgusted with persons who seem at most times like to turn a good historic or cultural discussion into a political hate speech for person who they dislike because of a different political persuasion. Many who are condemning Burnham with hate, would have possibly done exactly what he did to save themselves from bankruptcy or continue the business into continual bankruptcy. Then who they will force to pay for the bankruptcy, you and me and the future generation. Who knew that there would have been an oil crisis, not even the haters, if they knew they would have been creating a stink. So the British didn't even want to upgrade those deteriorating irons, too costly, they weren't condemned, but Burnham had the guts to condemn the same iron- he had more money than the British or because he was Burnham we hate him. So some are not hated but others are hated for doing the same thing. Jagdeo wisely closes some sugar estates because it made economic sense, no hate, Granger closes some too, he must be hated. This is really sickening, we cannot have a healthy discussion, without politicizing it. I will recommend that FIC do an Episode next on "The Second Rise of South America First Railroad," it was publicly mentioned as in the making and let the truth of the balanced mind be seen. I think a healthy critical approach is needed, rather than hate political speeches.
Culture Freedom when you speak how that Prime Minister ruled its racial you just can’t speak the truth you just have to listen and turn a deaf ear.Sorry.
This was the biggest mistake that the Government in Guyana made - how stupid. All development countries are improving on their train service. Another way that deprived the country of valued Revenue.
@Swamp Dog Did you watch the video and listen to the narrator? You surely didn't or you wouldn't be commenting such ignorance. You clowns are so ready to critic the government without looking at the facts.
king Tutankhamun My comment is not of ignorance Sir, but pure facts. Your mind is stifled by the mere thought of anyone critiquing the poor decision of the Guyana Govt. whether it was the PPP or PNC, do not give a damn but my concern remains the same, that it was not a wise decision to scrap the Railway system.
Officially, best parts were given to the TAZARA Railway project , but it was paid for in full, rest sold as scrap iron. Where did the money go? There will never be any "revival" of any railroad, there is simply no infrastructure, such as electricity etc, for it. Keep dreaming... For example, look at the Amaila Falls Project!!! Guyana has the largest and best waterfalls in the world, today, 2020, no hydropower at all... Guiana has top modern Petit-Saut (EDF) in the middle of the swamp, Suriname has Afobaka since 1964 with artificial lake, NO waterfalls.
Howard Johnstone..........I agree that it is difficult to re-establish the railway in the near future. Apart from being costly , the old space from GT to Mahaicony has been replaced by the new highway and residences. I guess that i have been lucky to use all the railways except the one from Wismar to Rockstone.
amazingly, india and other places where western countries implemented(& invested lots of money) still run today to benefit countries in many ways. sad, communist idealist leader burnham tore up the rails. jagan, i would not have trusted either. both burnham & jagan walked hand & hand in support of communism. SMH. when jagan got power, it was After the communist USSR fell; jagan's communist utopian ideal for guyana was done; so he changed a small bit - not much. jagan should have got disgusted with communist Jim Jones who left USA to live with his cult in guyana. but communists never learn, they are dogmatic to the deteriment of the individual.
You are the type of Guyanese that bring the country down...instead of building all you can do is criticize....where is your video on Guyana???????? Exactly
5:49 burnham did not just close rails down; the rails were destroyed by burnham. a few minutes later you say a couple years later burnham wanted to use rails again because of increased oil price but rails were "dug up" long ago. telling half truths won't win: burnham had those rails destroyed. others will put up truthful vids so it doesn't benefit you not saying it. burnham and jagan were both communists. us and others chose a 'lesser evil' idea is a lie too. both equally bad. hopefully, guyana puts issues aside and gets business people in office.
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Peace be with you,my dad took me on the last train ride from Vreedenhoop to Parika in 1974, which was awesome.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤.
That’s awesome. I wish I could’ve been there
I loved riding the trains with my father.
Good video. I used the train for many years to get to school in Georgetown. It was reliable and also a great place to meet people as you could move freely from one carriage to the next even when the train was in motion. Once the train reached Georgetown, my classmates and I would form a group and gingerly walk to school together.
If you went to school in Georgetown but lived east of the city, you went to school by train. You got to meet and make friends with students from other schools and other villages. The train was not just a means of transportation but also a way to bring people together. The train ride was never boring since there were always people to talk to or if you preferred, a good place to read or study. Most students purchased a pass that was good for the school term.
The driver blew the horn before the train reached the station. Nevertheless, people were often late for the train and it was not unusual to see people, running in overdrive behind a moving train trying to get on. I remember doing so myself one Saturday and consider myself lucky to have caught the train without loss of life or limb. Of course, there were the "pros" who waited until the train was moving rapidly before jumping on. The same "pros" would wait until the train was travelling even faster before jumping off.
Some trains were Express and travelled non-stop from Georgetown to Mahaica. The trains would then stop at all of the remaining stations to Rosignol.
Most rail cars were classified as "third class". They were fine and had comfortable wooden seats. However, if you wanted softer seats, and a greater chance of a seat on a crowded train, you could pay more and opt for "first class".
I loved when "Smokie" pulled the train. Smokie was what we called the steam powered engines. Smokie huffed and puffed. It belched smoke and steam and had a steam whistle. If the load was too heavy, its wheels would slip as it tried to grip the rails and start pulling the rail cars along. Smokie was determined not to let you down.
There were diesel powered engines as well. They were more powerful but not as "sexy". Rail cars of different vintages had their own character. You could often tell the type of car you were in just from listening to the sound made by the wheels. The sound was different if the axle spacing on the cars was not the same.
When Guyana became independent in 1966, Canada gave it two diesel locomotive as a gift and they were put into service on the East Coast railway system. The names of the locomotives were Ottawa and Maple Leaf. They had more power and faster acceleration and were a great addition to the system.
The decision to close the railways was not a popular one and very shortsighted. Even though a lot of time has passed, serious thought should be given to putting parts of it back into service. Railways are subsidized all over the world and are not meant to be cash cows. The country needs an efficient and reliable transportation system and such a system does not currently exist. A railway would be a step in the right direction.
I am surprised that you were not aware that Buxtonians stopped the train. No history of Guyana is complete without it. Maybe they don't teach it in history class anymore. Anyway, a google search of "Buxton People Stop Train Guyana" should provide you with lots of information on that topic.
Wow. That sounds like a beautiful experience. Unfortunately, I was too young to have an opportunity to ride the train. But I agree fully, we should bring it back into service, that is the direction the world is going. Also thanks for the heads up about the Buxtonians. You are correct, they do not teach that story. It's a pity.
I caught the 6:00am train to get to Georgetown to school. And yes, I jumped on at the back of the train as it was leaving the station because I was late.
Thats an experience the youth of this country may never have
Wow, your history of the trains brought good memories for me. We traveled from Plaisance to Georgetown. My father bought us a monthly pass, which if I remember correctly was called a contract. My brother and sister and myself traveled with cousins in first class.
Watching from Queens 👸 NY USA 🇺🇸. Many people never knew there were ever passenger & freight trains 🚂 in Guyana. Many years ago, the Queen 👸 visited Guyana 🇬🇾. She travelled on the train 🚂 standing at the back & waving 👋 to the crowd along both sides of the railway 🚃 line. I was also in that crowd with my family. I also rode the train 🚂 on a school trip from vreed-en-Hoop to Parika Market & back the same day. The freight train used to transport molasses. I love ❤️ your video. Thank you 🙏 for uploading. Appreciate it. I’ve subscribe.
Guyana has such an interesting history that few even know of. Thanks for watching and subscribing Locknath Singh.
For The Culture Guyana: That’s so true. For instance, Cheddi Jagan International Airport was originally the British Army Airport Base. It was also known as The Base. Also, the location was chosen because of it’s height.
Very true. Well be sure to cover that in another video.
I wish they can bring that back now, for it's the #1 transportation in the early day.
We do too
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Great video man, I'm wondering why we never learn this in our schools. I always wonder what happened to our railroad.
Thanks Demarcus. That's why we made the video. Are there any other topics you'd like to see in later videos?
Yes things like history behind our national monuments, national songs, villages/communities, and other things that the don't teach in schools.
Good stuff.
I worked that railroad for years now you know my age , the kids that went to school in Georgetown daily there was a food train that came in and T&HD allowed them to eat in the carriages of the Bermuda trains . Look what you have today thousand of mini buses and high fare no food
It was truly a unique experience for everyone who was there to have experienced it. Do you think the government should consider building a new rail system to match current population areas?
Great video...👍👍🇬🇾
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Burnham didn't have any regards for the preservation of history and culture. He had other plans!....plans that failed consistently. Today his legacy lives on thru' APNU.
Thumbs up to you for this very informative video.
Had to have one in the bunch, big question what ppp preserves for the 23 years?????? They couldn’t even preserve local election in the country
Sorry to say I'm neither of the two. But let's be fair if you have any sense of fairness, the PPP preserved democracy to a greater extent than did the PNC now called APNU. And let me point out here that the PPP is not without its faults! So, yes it's true local elections were absent since '94, not 23 years! DO you know the reason why? Please find out. However, when the PPP lost the elections in 2015 they packed up and left office peacefully. That's democracy by international standards. Now, in May 2020 what is APNU still doing in office after having lost the elections abysmally in March in front of the world ! Is this your definition of the preservation of democracy? Just be fair. I wear no political hat. Peace.
Since those days the pnc ruining Guyana
Good job, keep it up
Many thanks
Very educational. Keep up the good work👍👍👍
Nice, Burnham said that was his greatest blunder.
My grandma took me to Berbice as a kid on that railway. Great memories.
It's great that you had the opportunity to ride it. That's something many Guyanese alive today have never had the privilege of experiencing.
For the culture guyana, I use to live in kitty not too far from the railway and as a little boy in the 1960s l would get up at 4 am to see the first train and to listen for the whistle. Also, as wicked little kids, my friends and l use to put Milo and Ovaltine cans on the railway line so as to derail the trains, lol.
@@ianbynoe6515 Wow that must've been an experience. Also that was very wicked indeed! lol
Burnham made a lot of money selling off rail lines, etc.
@@frankjones3508, shut up, you don't know history. Our rails and trains were given away to poor African countries.
Thanks for the history, gonna share this with my Guyanese group
Yes, and please share with your non-Guyanese friends too. We are Guyanese citizens who are proud to share our beautiful culture with the world!
Great video my friend, my grandpa used to tell us about the railroad when we were small. Would like to see it up and running again. Thanks for the info.
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Great video guys I find it very interesting more please 😎💪💯❤🇬🇾
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True
Thanks for these info bro.
Thank you for watching
Hi George, great video!!
Many thanks Leota
Excelentissimo info. via research.
Thanks, my sire.
*. *. *. *. *. *
(Who is/was Ashton Chase?
Who was Hubert Nathaniel Critchlow?
Who was Archibald Codgrinton (sp)?
Who was Peter D'Aguiar?
Who was Michael Ford?)
Wyndhl Eodumegwu........These were outstanding personalities in Guyana history.
@@essarroyrupchand4007 NICE, ON POINT.
BLESSED FATHER'S DAY 🎉 🎂 TO ALL OF THEN, THEIR SOULS!
And to you, too!
All individuals who we will cover in future episodes. Thanks for the suggestions.
Excellent video 👍
Thank you. We try. Is there a topic you'd like for us to cover?
Good story. I remember going to the Plaisance station for bread in the afternoon from harlequin bakery in the city, and stealing molasses from the tank when the train rolled in. Those were the days living in Plaisance.
It sounds like it was a fun time back then. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe to our channel
@@ForTheCultureGuyana some of the best days of my childhood. Going into the back dam for picnics, fishing and swimming in the cane field canal or at the beach. Stealing a ride from someone's animals or the fruit trees.
Every time I come home, I have to spend time in Plaisance.
If only the current youth of Guyana could have such a childhood. Maybe things would be different?
What I would like the know is what class of steam train ran in Guyana besides to diesel train only the steam trains
Good info. I rode it from Newtown Kitty to Mahaica as child around 1970. Nice memories. You forgot to tell the tale of how the Buxtonians stopped the train 😃
We never came across that in our research. That sounds interesting. If you have any info please don't hesitate the let us know.
I rode the train every summer as a kid to Clonbrook for family picnics.
@@Bantu-King Do you have any pictures of the railroad that you'd like featured on our facebook page?
@@ForTheCultureGuyana I may still have a video of the Queens trip to Guyana in the sixty's. If this would be of use let me know how to send it.
I was lucky I rode the train from vreed en hoop to paprika. How I enjoy the ride wish to do it again now in my 50s
Never knew that..great history.
Thanks!
Great job George!
Thank you very much Miss. We hope to always keep it coming.
Nice video
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Great video
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Wish if was still in operation ...i must say I was lucky to have a ride ,,,from v...n...h...2 parikaz
Interesting video, I was Rail worker
Thanks Don
They should build the rail back we need it .
We agree 100%
Do some reviews of the food culture. It's one of the most interesting aspects of Guyana and you can't go wrong because all the political parties love food!
You're right everybody loves good food and we have alot of it in Guyana! We touched on it lightly in a previous video ua-cam.com/video/w6NQN39XjbQ/v-deo.html . But we'll definitely do some reviews in the future.
The Eastern end of the railway was at Rosignol, not New Amsterdam.
Crazy to think that upgrading from steam to Diesel locomotives were deemed ‘too expensive’ of an upgrade for England back then. I think maybe they were beginning to understand that guyana wanted independence and just decided to stop spending money on the railway. Great video, very informative. Trains would be very beneficial to our country today, especially with the increasing traffic congestion and fatalities of the current public transportation system.
Yes a cross country rail system would bring development nationwide
I travelled on that railway with my mother the 1950's up to 1962, they were steam driven locomotives at that time. We travelled from Georgetown to Golden Grove, east coast Demerara to visit my grandmother. We then continued up to Rosignol where the railway ended on west bank of the Berbice river, and then took a ferry across the river to New Amsterdam and onto Plantation Albion by a taxi to visit my Aunt and Uncle. At that time the railway was efficiently operated. The problem began when Guyana became independent; Forbes Burnham saw it as a symbol of British Imperialism and made a colossal mistake( one of many) and dismantled it. Canada gave us two brand new modern diesel locomotives as an Independence gift, but Burnham sold it along with all the railway lines to an African country. It was a slap in the face of the Canadian government. Railways are one of the most efficient ways in transporting goods and people as can be seen worldwide, the only person with a limited ability to comprehend this was Forbes Burnham.
He had to scrap the railroad because T&HD was a strong brotherhood Which he used to bring down the jagan government , he decided that will never happen to him
Fascinating. They don’t discuss any of these points in the history books.
Great video.
All the worlds rich economies depends on reliable transportation for its population. And they all have their own rail way system. In New York we have The subway, LIRR etc. As the video shows villages along the rail way prospered. It needed to be properly run to remain sustainable. But revenues generated went else where. The decision to close the railway was made by some one who never thinks about the future economy of Guyana. Had No insight. Those are the worst politicians who don’t think ahead. Sadly we still have them in 2020.
I honestly believe the rail way today would have been a major part of Guyana’s economic development.
Thank you Robert and we agree with your point 100%
Is the stretch between 4:55 and 5:01 by Guyana?
I was told by my dad that trains ran infront our house always wanted to know what happen....
And now you know.
What happened to R.H.Carr, the steamer?
Yes, the famed steamer ferry. The story of it is definitely worth doing an episode about.
Good job, but a pic should've been shown of the Lamaha Street Terminus
Thats a good idea. You can even send us one if you have a good one. We'll be sure to feature it on our facebook page facebook.com/forthecultureguyana.
Every day I would see the rural children walking in groups from/to the Train station (Lamaha/Carmichael sts.) to their schools at Central High/ Muslims College, etc. The british/americans messed up Guyana. Unfortunately, power is more important than progress
how did the British and Americans meds up Guyana ?
@@harrypaul7329 because you ask you are not Guyanese
@@harrypaul7329 Great rhetorical question?
The "Mea Culpa" belongs to the arrogance and "self-opinionated ness" of a couple power-drunk, political oligarchs of that era; neither the British nor US-Americans are responsible - SOLELY.
@@wyndhleodumegwu253 they are and they have documents stating that they did smh
@@israelkingston2635 Let's modify:
The Dutch Europeans, British Europeans and the United States Europeans - the so-called "white" peoples - were solely responsible for initially sowing the tempestuous seeds of Racism (1846/1847) especially among Guyanese Africans and Guyanese East Indians.
Those days of European socio-economic strangulation are lessened comparatively; they will never be eradicated totally; capitalism will not permit the annihilation - never.
Those seeds of racial discord had reignited (1955-1962, 1964), and have blossomed into gigantic trees of Apaan Jaat prejudices, biases, bigotry, political corruption, police brutality, and self-hatred specifically among one ethnic group of Guyanese - the Guyanese Africans.
Guyana is now infested with pockets of (political) oligarchs whose duty is to cling to power by all means available and unavailable, to amass wealth to the Nth degree and effect racial superiority while the Guyanese citizenry exists below the poverty index.
Blame not the British and United States Europeans for the PRESENT, abysmal decadence that threatens the very lives of the Guyanese poor.
By the by, to what documents do you allude?
To those documents presented by Mike Pompeo, United States ex-president Trump's secretary of state and by Barbados Mia Mottley, who had directed the resolution of the 2018-2020 electoral controversy in Guyana?
If yes, then you are partially in the right!
Lohvissimo, my friend.
I would like to see you do one for the LBI sugar estate and not much people living to say about those past generations or generations the logee at LBI estate please do it early
The sugar industry has a rich and long history in Guyana, and the sugar estates of the East Coast were once an integral part of it. Thanks for the suggestion, we'd love to do a video on it. But you are also correct. There are few who are alive to speak on it. Do you know of anyone who would like to share? Be sure to contact us.
@@ForTheCultureGuyana go in the village of LBI and ask the have a woman on the second street name aunty finee and the last street his name is uncle bogo or check the LBI mosque in the evening and then you have one more hard working person by the name of joyce
@@khemrajsukhram1538 Thank you. Your response was specific and timely. We'll be sure to take a trip to LBI soon.
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Rising Cost of fuel does not add up to scrapping the cheapest form of transportation, it meant to adapt to using more expensive gasoline to fill that void...not many will buy into this excuse, while the rest of the world was building and refining their railway systems.
It can come back just a little clean up with in the county Burnham made a lot of mistake. When the british build something leave it do not broke it. Past government officials do not know the value
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I’m glad that the government is considering to bring it back! (According to sources) It would be beautiful to see and to experience
Thanks for watching. We have our fingers crossed that you are correct.
Just cleaning it need and good craftman to rebuild the box car you think india yangon and those place get ridden of them it still exits and working today
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@@johnadam3707 I believe that I just read it today that they are in fact doing this. I support it, because it keeps the originality of the place. Such as cities like New Orleans, San Fransisco.
@@SonoranTel ...Where did you read this?????
Would the Government bring back train?
Do you believe there are potential benefits to bringing the train system back? If so, should it be expanded beyond its previous lengths?
When apnu won the last elections they had plans to bring it back but minibus drivers and conductors were complaining and protesting
@@trevelcanterbury5348 Thats unfortunate. Would you want to see the railroad rebuilt?
@@ForTheCultureGuyana what about those who work taxi's and bus
@@trevelcanterbury5348 Hopefully we see better behavior on the roads from them as they will have to compete with a safer and similarly priced travel option if trains return.
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Many thanks!
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Many memories of riding the WCD (DeKendren to Parika) railway. This young man (presenter) speaks clearly and has good diction. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same for many TV hosts and presenters in Guyana. Mohamed R.
That is an experience we wish we could've had. Thanks for watching the video and I'm glad you liked it. Be sure to subscribe for more videos and share with your friends and family so they can also learn more about our country.
I am disgusted with persons who seem at most times like to turn a good historic or cultural discussion into a political hate speech for person who they dislike because of a different political persuasion. Many who are condemning Burnham with hate, would have possibly done exactly what he did to save themselves from bankruptcy or continue the business into continual bankruptcy. Then who they will force to pay for the bankruptcy, you and me and the future generation. Who knew that there would have been an oil crisis, not even the haters, if they knew they would have been creating a stink. So the British didn't even want to upgrade those deteriorating irons, too costly, they weren't condemned, but Burnham had the guts to condemn the same iron- he had more money than the British or because he was Burnham we hate him. So some are not hated but others are hated for doing the same thing. Jagdeo wisely closes some sugar estates because it made economic sense, no hate, Granger closes some too, he must be hated. This is really sickening, we cannot have a healthy discussion, without politicizing it. I will recommend that FIC do an Episode next on "The Second Rise of South America First Railroad," it was publicly mentioned as in the making and let the truth of the balanced mind be seen. I think a healthy critical approach is needed, rather than hate political speeches.
Spot on Dennis. You are exactly correct.
Culture Freedom when you speak how that Prime Minister ruled its racial you just can’t speak the truth you just have to listen and turn a deaf ear.Sorry.
A railroad would be excellent for Guyana East Bank Demerara. Just contact me, I know how to build a railroad
Of course forbes had a better "Vision". Great informative video.
Much appreciated
This was the biggest mistake that the Government in Guyana made - how stupid. All development countries are improving on their train service. Another way that deprived the country of valued Revenue.
It was a mistake to get rid of it. Do you believe itll be worth the cost to rebuild it?
@Swamp Dog Did you watch the video and listen to the narrator? You surely didn't or you wouldn't be commenting such ignorance.
You clowns are so ready to critic the government without looking at the facts.
Burnham destroyed Guyana. Burnham was only concerned about power for himself . as walter Rodney said : everything that Burnham touched turned to shit.
king Tutankhamun My comment is not of ignorance Sir, but pure facts. Your mind is stifled by the mere thought of anyone critiquing the poor decision of the Guyana Govt. whether it was the PPP or PNC, do not give a damn but my concern remains the same, that it was not a wise decision to scrap the Railway system.
Need to build railroad in guyana again with the oil money P PP C
No matter who wins Dave, we support the rebuilding of the railroad
No apnu will do it
APNU/PNC ruined Guyana
@@kavitadreams8259 wrong
Anything Burnham put his hands on flap. Worst president ever.
No! jagdeteefman is just as bad!
Great video, but you kinds butchered some of the village and river names lol.
Thanks for watching Amir. As for the names, you are right. Being raising in the US, I was never fortunate enough to have the accent of my father. lol
@@CaptainAmerica-xl7gp he didn't say anything I didn't already know. If you don't have manners you shouldn't be out in the public talking to humans.
I was laughing to my self when they pronounced the names incorrectly.
Officially, best parts were given to the TAZARA Railway project , but it was paid for in full, rest sold as scrap iron. Where did the money go?
There will never be any "revival" of any railroad, there is simply no infrastructure, such as electricity etc, for it. Keep dreaming...
For example, look at the Amaila Falls Project!!! Guyana has the largest and best waterfalls in the world, today, 2020, no hydropower at all...
Guiana has top modern Petit-Saut (EDF) in the middle of the swamp, Suriname has Afobaka since 1964 with artificial lake, NO waterfalls.
Howard Johnstone..........I agree that it is difficult to re-establish the railway in the near future. Apart from being costly , the old space from GT to Mahaicony has been replaced by the new highway and residences. I guess that i have been lucky to use all the railways except the one from Wismar to Rockstone.
O not South America North America is Guyana in
Nope. Guyana is located on the Guiana shield on the northern coast of South America.
My sister had to get to the train from Bellaire to go to school at Cummings Lodge high school.We lived in Prashad Nagar.
amazingly, india and other places where western countries implemented(& invested lots of money) still run today to benefit countries in many ways. sad, communist idealist leader burnham tore up the rails. jagan, i would not have trusted either. both burnham & jagan walked hand & hand in support of communism. SMH. when jagan got power, it was After the communist USSR fell; jagan's communist utopian ideal for guyana was done; so he changed a small bit - not much. jagan should have got disgusted with communist Jim Jones who left USA to live with his cult in guyana. but communists never learn, they are dogmatic to the deteriment of the individual.
I can't take the accent serious !!
This is youtube... It aint that serious bruh.
You are the type of Guyanese that bring the country down...instead of building all you can do is criticize....where is your video on Guyana???????? Exactly
Thanks Kwesi
And that's what "you guyanese" don't get that, everyone has an opinion !! Kwesi luke
5:49 burnham did not just close rails down; the rails were destroyed by burnham. a few minutes later you say a couple years later burnham wanted to use rails again because of increased oil price but rails were "dug up" long ago.
telling half truths won't win: burnham had those rails destroyed. others will put up truthful vids so it doesn't benefit you not saying it.
burnham and jagan were both communists. us and others chose a 'lesser evil' idea is a lie too. both equally bad. hopefully, guyana puts issues aside and gets business people in office.
Educational
Thanks Oral.
Overhead costs were to high for a country where people hardly paid taxes in an independent nation
Good point