VoiD vs Leffen - Singles Bracket: Losers' Round 2 - Smash Ultimate Summit | Pichu vs Pokemon Trainer

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  • CLG VoiD vs TSM Leffen (Pichu vs PT) - Singles Bracket: Losers Round 2 - Smash Ultimate Summit
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 209

  • @TheJMusicNow
    @TheJMusicNow 5 років тому +293

    Leffen literally lost, packed up his controller, and walked straight back home to train. lmao He's actually Vegeta

    • @rickysanchez5030
      @rickysanchez5030 5 років тому +2

      Jacob Britton this comment 😂

    • @user-mz6cm5zk8u
      @user-mz6cm5zk8u 5 років тому +10

      Jacob Britton Zero is Goku

    • @RinkuHeroOfTime
      @RinkuHeroOfTime 5 років тому +3

      @@user-mz6cm5zk8u zero is maji buu, da fuck lol mango is the goku of smash

    • @matrix1760
      @matrix1760 5 років тому +1

      RinkuHeroOfTime no

    • @Midas526
      @Midas526 5 років тому +11

      RinkuHeroOfTime Bro, Mango is Yamcha these days XD

  • @skulphire3679
    @skulphire3679 5 років тому +329

    That last kill broke every bit of trust leffen still had in PT
    RIP leffen PT

    • @isaiahcampbell3992
      @isaiahcampbell3992 5 років тому +7

      That last kill physically hurt me lol.

    • @chrisjackson6149
      @chrisjackson6149 5 років тому +12

      Pokemon Trainer is not the only character that can get spiked by Pichu's Thunder, you know.

    • @celticwind4122
      @celticwind4122 5 років тому +4

      Why? Any character can get thunder spiked. and the stock before it was his own fault for letting go of ledge.

    • @De4daim
      @De4daim 5 років тому +1

      @@celticwind4122 getting gimp spiked like that is also not limited to pichus thunder, i.e. chromes up special can also insta kill you at the ledge while chrome grabs the ledge

    • @HakuzaPK
      @HakuzaPK 5 років тому

      Lol PT sucks

  • @IDubeyI
    @IDubeyI 5 років тому +133

    If Zero does not try commentating for a real tournament it would be a shame.

    • @codysterling9974
      @codysterling9974 5 років тому +15

      He commentates “real” tournaments at home. That way he can continue getting subs and keep the views up.

    • @tripled2505
      @tripled2505 5 років тому +1

      @@codysterling9974 lol

    • @bestimmusmucho
      @bestimmusmucho 5 років тому

      He already has

  • @ace611kw9
    @ace611kw9 5 років тому +279

    Zero is such a good commentator I wish he would do it more

    • @rpsyco
      @rpsyco 5 років тому +26

      Honestly, he's better at this than he is at playing...and that's saying something because ZeRo's amazing.

    • @elifromnowon7430
      @elifromnowon7430 5 років тому +48

      Zero would also be an amazing coach. Look his analysis about Leffen’s play.

    • @rpsyco
      @rpsyco 5 років тому +3

      @@elifromnowon7430 That's actually a good idea for him

    • @newpairofboots
      @newpairofboots 5 років тому +5

      He actually does it quite a bit. For example when he streams tournaments (which he does relatively often)

    • @Lamborgini-gb7gs
      @Lamborgini-gb7gs 5 років тому

      Mmmmm i don’t think so

  • @tearzofthefallen6586
    @tearzofthefallen6586 5 років тому +105

    Leffen is Vegeta irl. Confirmed by that last match.

  • @fredchou123
    @fredchou123 5 років тому +301

    we all know leffen dropping PT after this lmao

    • @johnnyboi331
      @johnnyboi331 5 років тому +1

      @Tangy Oranges he already dropped him for pichu and then dropped him again for young link. i think this time he is gonna drop him for roy.

    • @tehemail.7062
      @tehemail.7062 5 років тому +8

      I think that would be a mistake. As void alluded to postgame, PT actually seems really good against pichu. Combos don't work well on squirtle. Also both squirtle and Ivysaur don't suffer from whiffing moves as much as other characters given how low they are to the ground, which allows them to actually exploit Pichu's weakness of being really light.

    • @elzilcho222
      @elzilcho222 5 років тому

      @@johnnyboi331 wolf*

    • @TheMari0123
      @TheMari0123 5 років тому

      DANG IT

    • @veledwin1
      @veledwin1 5 років тому +3

      @@tehemail.7062 Yeah, it would be a mistake. Leffen lost the match, not PT. Nothing there seemed like it was the character holding him back. He just lacked experience against Pichus, let alone the _best_ Pichu. He just needs to prioritize Squirtle more in that matchup.
      I doubt that he'll make that mistake tho.

  • @robindominguez854
    @robindominguez854 5 років тому +38

    pichu bair doesn't have set knockback but high base knockback... set knockback doesn't scale with damage...

  • @unknownsoldier6731
    @unknownsoldier6731 5 років тому +33

    It’s kinda funny to see chillen commentating on a set with Leffen.

  • @J9Power4
    @J9Power4 5 років тому +105

    11:33
    I believe what zero meant was *He's TOXIC*

    • @charlesahweyevu
      @charlesahweyevu 5 років тому +5

      Ahhh. His accent is so good now that you forget it's his second language.

    • @JecIsBec
      @JecIsBec 5 років тому

      wow thnx I don't think anyone would've got it otherwise

    • @tallanddark89
      @tallanddark89 5 років тому +1

      Def high toxicity in that leaffy boi

  • @magnificify
    @magnificify 5 років тому +34

    Streams and YT channels showing smash tournaments need to show the bracket more often so we have a better understanding of the tournament.

    • @bubrub23
      @bubrub23 5 років тому +3

      Hey Im not sure if you know but you can go to Smash.gg to view most tournament brackets. :-)

    • @magnificify
      @magnificify 5 років тому +2

      @@bubrub23 haha yes, it's just that I am a tad lazy

    • @bubrub23
      @bubrub23 5 років тому +1

      @@magnificify I understand 😂

  • @jonathansinner5085
    @jonathansinner5085 5 років тому +17

    These guys are soo much fun to watch against each other, my god

  • @zhang6754
    @zhang6754 5 років тому +7

    void politely waits his turn to speak 15:59

  • @Cless
    @Cless 5 років тому +29

    Leffen always look serious damn. I'm sure he acts like this at his birthdays

    • @sergioraulwilo
      @sergioraulwilo 5 років тому +4

      The must of players looks serious while playing in a tournament my dude, Leffen was just concentrated.

    • @dimebagsanchez
      @dimebagsanchez 5 років тому

      LOL

  • @def48gaming
    @def48gaming 5 років тому +127

    Leffin
    Leffout :(

  • @KidAL0
    @KidAL0 5 років тому +23

    3:37 _smoker voice_ *SQUIRTLE- SQUIRTLE- SQUIRTLE-*

  • @Docdamn111
    @Docdamn111 5 років тому +11

    Lmao void stay lookin like he hopped outta bed threw an outfit on and came to the tournament

  • @swixhayes3877
    @swixhayes3877 5 років тому +16

    I freaking love void personality 😂😂

  • @Rave.-
    @Rave.- 5 років тому +8

    This commentary was fantastic. Can we replace all future shoutcasters with this calm, insightful, funny crew?

    • @JamesExcell-InterJex
      @JamesExcell-InterJex 5 років тому +1

      I like this. But the funny commentators are just the best.

  • @paranoidhusky5783
    @paranoidhusky5783 5 років тому +9

    Void looks like he just woke to play

  • @kriscrossx122
    @kriscrossx122 5 років тому +11

    Leff uses squirtle to rack up quick dmg than look for spikes with Ivy and up smash's with Charizard. Its good but predictable, like void said if he just stuck with squirtle Pichu would of had a much harder time, cept leffen isn't nearly as polished with the rest of PT outside of Ivy. If he drops PT entirely that would be a shame.

  • @27wootwoot
    @27wootwoot 5 років тому +6

    Gahdamn chillindude still not lawful but now he’s bigdude

  • @Hispano_1
    @Hispano_1 5 років тому +16

    Leffen got 3 stocked, but that last stock though.

  • @fireemblemaddict128
    @fireemblemaddict128 5 років тому +9

    Leffen might just main Pichu now lol

  • @tannerarmstrong1496
    @tannerarmstrong1496 5 років тому +1

    If I could change Pokemon Trainer, I would remove the feature where pokemon switch automatically after each stock, and I would make selecting the pokemon work the same way Shulk selects his monado art. That seems like a fair buff to me. I imagine you could get some cool options by switching rapidly between two pokemon without having to use the 3rd

  • @bandit6556
    @bandit6556 5 років тому +10

    15:55 VOID LMFAOOOO

    • @meltenvy
      @meltenvy 5 років тому

      @Kirk Miller waiting for zero to shut up so he can talk lmao

  • @ShawnChair
    @ShawnChair 5 років тому +2

    me after seeing that thumbnail:
    DID I HEAR POKEMON BATTLE!!!!

  • @livelyoh8816
    @livelyoh8816 5 років тому

    I'm really loving these videos where Zero's commentating!!

  • @LeahLuciB
    @LeahLuciB 5 років тому

    Good analysis on this one. Zero has good insights too. Love it when he's on the mic

  • @austinpowers3659
    @austinpowers3659 5 років тому +7

    Summit is amazing

  • @DBZSeanzie
    @DBZSeanzie 5 років тому +8

    The thumbnail makes it look more like stoners bracket

  • @Succubus_L0li
    @Succubus_L0li 5 років тому

    15:35 zero's comment right there is on point

  • @GordKeen
    @GordKeen 5 років тому +12

    Leffen needs to step his game up even his roy isnt that hot. Hope he decides to just play a top tier instead of choosing a character and then saying they are top tier when they are not "looks at kid link"

    • @wobblesman4316
      @wobblesman4316 5 років тому +1

      Dreage You mean young link?

    • @johnnyboi331
      @johnnyboi331 5 років тому

      @@wobblesman4316 youre thinking of toon link i think.

    • @always_serpico
      @always_serpico 5 років тому

      That’s the problem; people picking characters because they are top tier. You end up seeing the same couple of characters over and over. You have a roster of over 70 characters, it’s ridiculous that only a few are ever seen because no one wants to not be without a top tier. I get not wanting to take an awful character to a tournament, but the top tier mentality needs to stop.

    • @johnnyboi331
      @johnnyboi331 5 років тому

      in a roster of 70 characters young link is top tier. so is roy. leffen made the right move not picking a main until 3.0. he doesnt have to start over. he has a main now regardless of who gets nerfed.

  • @evanduffy8130
    @evanduffy8130 5 років тому +5

    Zero should coach leffen. Would make a great team.

    • @skaionex
      @skaionex 5 років тому +12

      Lol you really think leffen would allow anyone to coach him?

    • @xmachuuu
      @xmachuuu 5 років тому

      Especially after Armada lol

  • @evann5900
    @evann5900 5 років тому +2

    I didn't know zero was such a good commentator

  • @MR-im9ve
    @MR-im9ve 5 років тому

    How did Leffen do that roll/dip off the ledge as Ivysaur at 4:47 , 4:48? Like what is the button input? ty

    • @CaptainSlowpoke
      @CaptainSlowpoke 5 років тому

      Literally just walks off, fast falls (taps down to fall faster) and immediately jumps

  • @eiyuu257
    @eiyuu257 5 років тому +3

    I haven’t finished the match but game 2 I feel like leffen could’ve taken it if he hadn’t stayed as charizard.

  • @tobimakkura
    @tobimakkura 5 років тому +1

    Switch Pichus grab range with Piranha Plants, we instantly we have a more balanced game.

    • @meltenvy
      @meltenvy 5 років тому +1

      @@pauloportas6706 pichu is fine as he is you nerds, he has clear strengths and weaknesses. just adapt

    • @kbreezy2025
      @kbreezy2025 5 років тому

      Pichu is just a very electrifying character.

  • @MagicianCamille
    @MagicianCamille 5 років тому +17

    stop void he's already dead

  • @the_bookworm8281
    @the_bookworm8281 5 років тому +33

    VoiD downloaded Leffen very hard during this set.

    • @UnsweetTea
      @UnsweetTea 5 років тому +18

      Autumn Lizard character doesn’t matter much in this game there are many characters that are viable it’s the player and learning the match up plus void just a better player at this time leffen just gotta let’s just say “git gud”

    • @noahenriquez4436
      @noahenriquez4436 5 років тому +3

      Yeah the difference between game 1 and the rest of the set is crazy

    • @aarongutierrez7705
      @aarongutierrez7705 5 років тому

      YizTheBoss Gaming yes except pichu is top tier and pt is trash

    • @UnsweetTea
      @UnsweetTea 5 років тому

      @@aarongutierrez7705 he's been playing the character as long as void playing Pichu at this point leffen could have won if he played it better he's a usable character and squirtle does good againt pichu but he didn't even use them

    • @falexie7802
      @falexie7802 5 років тому +4

      @@UnsweetTea Leffen would have lost no matter what. No johns

  • @arsenaltg1
    @arsenaltg1 5 років тому +1

    He’s dropping PT for sure after this

  • @ECamp77
    @ECamp77 5 років тому +1

    btw, pichu's fair shield pokes young link at full shield. wuh?

  • @sharsasuke01
    @sharsasuke01 5 років тому +9

    BIG Leff got BIG spiked.

  • @Heezer_cros
    @Heezer_cros 5 років тому

    Whats the song on the 2nd match?

  • @thomaslayman9487
    @thomaslayman9487 5 років тому +1

    But we're not going to talk about how hard leffen bodied void in the first game holy fuuuuuu

    • @yourtrappedinmygenjutsu
      @yourtrappedinmygenjutsu 5 років тому +2

      Why does it matter when he lost the set lol

    • @thomaslayman9487
      @thomaslayman9487 5 років тому

      @@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu because he pretty much outperformed void for the rest of the set even if void ended up winning

    • @kbreezy2025
      @kbreezy2025 5 років тому

      He got stomped the rest of the time so I’m sure it doesn’t matter. Also I’m pretty sure void was just getting a feel for how Leffen plays.

    • @Osmosis-jy6xp
      @Osmosis-jy6xp 5 років тому

      Out performed? Game 1 yeah games 2 and 3 no sir he did not.he got butt blasted.

  • @silversolarfire5473
    @silversolarfire5473 4 роки тому +1

    Those vods look different these days....

  • @tripled2505
    @tripled2505 5 років тому +17

    I cant be the only one who is creeped out by voids smile in the thumbnail

    • @KidAL0
      @KidAL0 5 років тому +8

      *turned on

    • @tripled2505
      @tripled2505 5 років тому +1

      @@KidAL0 nooooo

    • @Mr.L9
      @Mr.L9 5 років тому

      illuminachos cringes

  • @mrpinguimninja
    @mrpinguimninja 5 років тому +4

    A sitcom about Leffens's hard times trying to make it as a the best ultimate player in the world maining only PT. It would be called "razor leffen"

  • @tannerbrodt8419
    @tannerbrodt8419 5 років тому +4

    I’m always rooting for Void. So hard not to when Red Pichu is my favorite

  • @pelagiusseptim3454
    @pelagiusseptim3454 5 років тому

    Why does leffen still play PT? He said he's gonna drop him.

  • @temoharri8848
    @temoharri8848 5 років тому

    Void looks to have wrapped up Leffen's Pokemon Trainer.

  • @luisTorres-sz7mc
    @luisTorres-sz7mc 5 років тому +22

    Zero acts like he has a phd on smash

    • @bestimmusmucho
      @bestimmusmucho 5 років тому +11

      luis Torres he does

    • @Colechil
      @Colechil 5 років тому +2

      That kid is Smash...

    • @masonwolfgod
      @masonwolfgod 5 років тому

      luis Torres mans prob got more than 8 years of smash school just sayin’

    • @chocobro___
      @chocobro___ 5 років тому +1

      “Thinks” if you could get a PhD in he would definitely have it

    • @Dance1617
      @Dance1617 5 років тому

      Have you ever heard him talk about the mechanics of the game? Yeah, he does haha

  • @rpsyco
    @rpsyco 5 років тому +4

    I really like ZeRo as a commentator. Holy crap...

  • @luther2669
    @luther2669 2 роки тому

    I like voiD playing Multiversu, TOM & JERRY

  • @nicholaspatino2427
    @nicholaspatino2427 5 років тому

    Here we are 4 months later and Pokémon Trianer is a good ass character. Ahhh Meta development mmmmhmm

  • @michaelparenti9496
    @michaelparenti9496 5 років тому

    Chillin ain’t a ghost yet boys

  • @frewtlewps1152
    @frewtlewps1152 5 років тому +3

    Pichu getting his revenge towards everyone talkin smack about him in Melee

  • @thesaxiest4480
    @thesaxiest4480 5 років тому +1

    That last play was soooo dirty

  • @EbonySeraphim
    @EbonySeraphim 5 років тому +1

    Zero had a really good point he never finished during the last game. Leffen does generally play aggressive (he is always applying pressure), and the thing about Void is he wasn't playing defensive (as some might think) but rather playing patiently and trying to feel out what his opponent is trying to do before really unleashing what he is capable of. That's why as these games progressed, it seemed like Void flipped and switch and suddenly the two players were in a different class. I think this is an element of fighting games some players grasp - that is, sometimes you need to step back from getting hyper focused on executing something really difficult, or minutia game knowledge like hit boxes and frame data and just realize something a lot more basic. Void said it himself - that Squirtle alone looked like it could deal with Pichu alone. But Leffen stuck with convention and switched to Ivysaur even if it wasn't necessary - and according to Void, he was trying to force things to happen.
    I like what Zero offered and it's something I do at my (ignorable) level of play which is not going for critical or flashy plays early on in a match. It serves a good purpose to lull your opponent to sleep on your capabilities so you can use it at a more valuable time to take a stock off of them and win like Void did. If he had attempted that down-b lightning earlier in the match, Leffen would have remembered and respected it to mix up his recovery. Instead, he very stupidly just went there and got hit.
    I think to Leffen a "better player" is one who executes better and maybe faster. Any competitive situation like this requires observation, orientation, and decision making as well. In other words the "OODA loop" -- as coined by United States Air Force Colonel John Boyd. (execute -> act)

  • @fierypickles4450
    @fierypickles4450 5 років тому +1

    Was hoping to see leffens young link

  • @BenJones1127
    @BenJones1127 5 років тому +1

    Void.exe stopped working

  • @magnificify
    @magnificify 5 років тому +13

    Zero best commentator. Coming at us with real analysis

  • @bibigreen6533
    @bibigreen6533 5 років тому +24

    Leffen has made a whining video yet?

  • @jermainetalaepa8463
    @jermainetalaepa8463 5 років тому +1

    anyone else kinda hoping pokken tournament would be like this though? . . . :/

  • @tehemail.7062
    @tehemail.7062 5 років тому +1

    Despite these particular results, PT actually seems to be a really good answer to pichu. Both Ivysaur's and squirtle's moves are all really low to the ground. You don't whiff like other characters which takes away one of his greatest strengths and brings to the forefront his weakness of being ridiculously light.

  • @shadowofchaos41
    @shadowofchaos41 5 років тому

    Zero is such a great commentator

  • @Imgengarrr
    @Imgengarrr 5 років тому

    Why tf are there people here asking to have zero to stop talking? When he speaks you listen. Maybe y’all wouldn’t be scrubs if you knew good commentators/game knowledge WHEN it’s presented to you. BY THE WAY! His commentating skills are actually really good. Y’all on some other shit fr lol

  • @thomas-isaacarcino2081
    @thomas-isaacarcino2081 5 років тому +2

    I actually dislike Leffen big time lol

  • @HopperDragon
    @HopperDragon 5 років тому +3

    Always frustrating to see leffen bring out charizard and lose a whole ass stock cause of it

  • @JCElzinga
    @JCElzinga 5 років тому

    Zer0 looking like sam tully.

  • @mecca8270
    @mecca8270 5 років тому +1

    why does zero look homeless

  • @user-qb2do6lm2p
    @user-qb2do6lm2p 5 років тому

    ピチュー対策されすぎてvoidぐらいのレベルじゃないと通用しない…

  • @boryontotheleader2328
    @boryontotheleader2328 5 років тому +2

    Yeah, pichu definetly is in need of a nerf

  • @12azam28
    @12azam28 5 років тому +1

    is that chillin' on the far left commentating? lmaoo

  • @mikaelrivacov5705
    @mikaelrivacov5705 5 років тому

    Seriously? Pichu... XDDDD. 9:28 10/10

  • @Matthew.Morcos
    @Matthew.Morcos 4 роки тому

    Zero is the worst commentattor. He really pulled out the type advantage comparison multiple times. That some day 1 Ultimate shit.

  • @bradleymeyer9069
    @bradleymeyer9069 5 років тому +2

    The other announcers are way too condescending to zero who is actually giving great commentary

  • @TheTrajanValoris
    @TheTrajanValoris 5 років тому

    Leffen! Stop fucking around bro, pick up a new main!

  • @tallanddark89
    @tallanddark89 5 років тому

    Damn, Leffen still isn’t winning in ultimate?

  • @HammerHeadFootball
    @HammerHeadFootball 5 років тому

    leffen the past rip

  • @maxy589
    @maxy589 5 років тому

    Fear pichu.

  • @jermjerm610
    @jermjerm610 5 років тому

    Watches last set..... welp time to become a pichu main lmao

  • @tallanddark89
    @tallanddark89 5 років тому

    Wait wtf

  • @always_serpico
    @always_serpico 5 років тому

    Why does Void always looks so spaced out? Dude is either on something, or has some shortness upstairs.

  • @さらたそ
    @さらたそ 4 роки тому

    cute guys fight

  • @adamice2526
    @adamice2526 5 років тому +3

    We're all gonna miss leffen's trainer :(

  • @tigerv117
    @tigerv117 5 років тому

    2 dbzf players play smash bros

  • @IDubeyI
    @IDubeyI 5 років тому

    Oh Bruno Mars.... 💜

  • @Tippssy
    @Tippssy 5 років тому

    Wow Pokemon Sword/Shield looking pretty good!

  • @spiralanimations7736
    @spiralanimations7736 4 роки тому

    8:10 I see why leffen hates charizard so much now

  • @Chris-dy1cb
    @Chris-dy1cb 5 років тому

    Void IRL Goku

  • @kabritu.
    @kabritu. 5 років тому +9

    is void trying to grow freeform dreads or something, bruhh just comb your hair out.

    • @thatdude3977
      @thatdude3977 5 років тому +3

      Calm down

    • @gabington8990
      @gabington8990 5 років тому +15

      I think it looks cool tbh

    • @Jaime-ni7sw
      @Jaime-ni7sw 5 років тому +3

      No smash players have drip

    • @andrew8658
      @andrew8658 5 років тому

      Jaime what about samsara doe

    • @trevorharmon1
      @trevorharmon1 5 років тому

      Some people's hair can't be combed or brushed

  • @furretthefuzzynoodle3896
    @furretthefuzzynoodle3896 5 років тому +1

    Anyone else dislike leaden he’s very cocky and toxic from what I have seen of him

  • @daggiedrop7108
    @daggiedrop7108 5 років тому

    Zero should play less ultimate and smash the gym a little.

  • @garbagez0ne74
    @garbagez0ne74 5 років тому

    Pichu his a hard character to play. Kills at 25% lol

  • @thefuture3007
    @thefuture3007 5 років тому

    Pichu is ez af

    • @benyancey6454
      @benyancey6454 5 років тому +5

      Nah man, Picchu requires perfect precision or u die at 60. One whiffed move and your done

    • @thefuture3007
      @thefuture3007 5 років тому +3

      Mr.bonco man pichu is a really strong character the downside of him dying easily doesn't cover that fact that the little dude is faster than sonic and stronger than its evolved form pickachu😂

    • @ultraaran15
      @ultraaran15 5 років тому +3

      I just dont understand who coded pichu’s fucking forward tilt. Why does that little foot have so much knockback/kill threat and have such a huge hitbox ITS A STUB A LITTLE PICHU STUB

  • @jessiem.8301
    @jessiem.8301 5 років тому

    Now all that criticism from leffen to zero.. now zero is critiquing leffen. Hmm.. Zero's critiquing sounds more valid. Not to mention leffen is a loser so.. 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @elefanamir9087
    @elefanamir9087 5 років тому +3

    Zero is that guy at the party that rambles on about stuff and no one is really listening.

    • @ThatStepmaniaGuy
      @ThatStepmaniaGuy 5 років тому +14

      Maybe if you listened to those rambles you wouldnt be trash at the game. Food for thought.

    • @duran9799
      @duran9799 5 років тому +5

      Elefanamir He’s very knowledgeable. I listen when he talks.

    • @BigZach77
      @BigZach77 5 років тому +2

      Elefanamir is that guy at parties who tries to quietly talk trash on someone and it ends up going really poorly.

  • @Yokai_Yuri
    @Yokai_Yuri 5 років тому +2

    I remember when people said the Melee gods were going to dominate Ultimate and that guys such as Leffen were going to top every single time and destroy the competence, and here we are, 3 months later and the guy can't even beat one of the top players without getting bodied hard. Leffen is NOT on that level as of right now. Ultimate is pretty competitive but a whole different game than the glitchy melee. No glitch means you have to rely on skills WITH your character, rather than be more knowledgeable than other player when using a glitch or exploit.
    I can already see the Melee fans "yOU DoNt UnDeRsTanD MeLleE, FoX ReQuIrE a LoT oF sKilL ETC ETC"

    • @druminjames119
      @druminjames119 5 років тому +8

      This ain’t it chief

    • @lemobyte3235
      @lemobyte3235 5 років тому +2

      What’s the point in trying to churn up arguments.

    • @ThatStepmaniaGuy
      @ThatStepmaniaGuy 5 років тому

      I dont agree with you but i do think we will see a lot of the melee god go back to melee. Still 2 very different games.

    • @fireemblemaddict128
      @fireemblemaddict128 5 років тому +1

      Thing is a lot of these god players are getting old and can’t adapt as quickly as they could when they were young. If you’re 20+ your brain isn’t in its flexible state anymore.

    • @ultraaran15
      @ultraaran15 5 років тому +4

      I like how everyone takes the “fans” words to represent what the players are suppose to think. I dont think at any point Armada, Mango, Plup, leffen and especially M2k ever said they would unironically dominate the scene. Mango is trying it out purely because he think it would be fun and he wants to try and get good/give a non melee smash a try. M2k would never say soemthing like this. Armada would never speak above his skill level he doesnt self hype his play he shows that he plays well and practices to get better when he doesnt. Plup is plup im pretty sure hes just doing this cuz hes having fun and is probably bored. And leffen probably cockily says he can be good but every time he talks on mic or in stream hes always critical of his own play and says he needs to practice and improve win or loss. I really dont think you should base the perception of players of their fans rather how they act and speak because melee fans tend to be more toxic and stupid than the actual players because they are stuck in the 2013-2015 melee era