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Extremely Rare Walter Johnson Card. Do We Need A Rarity Scale For Cards?
Extremely Rare Walter Johnson Card. Do We Need A Rarity Scale For Cards?
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looking great my very handsome friend! Sorry to see the oddball plates go. Glad to have my friend back where he belongs! In the captains chair of all things oddball! I am going to start using a scarcity & rarity scale with every purchase I make from here on out. I think I'd be better off?
@@BringingTheHeat-VBC yep! If it’s not rare it’s worthless
Great video and love that Johnson. I’m on the lookout for a Vance from that set. About the topic, David at cardboard history made a great video on this topic ua-cam.com/video/4JwmFEVWxyw/v-deo.htmlsi=XKcc_4d5INLke6FX
Just a beauty! No rarity scale please.....lol....no way to truly gauge it.....Pop Reports very sketchy as many cards have been crossed over from one grading company to the next and maybe back again....many cards dont get slabbed as you mentioned...sales good way but lots of the rare stuff in big collections that never see the light of day....
Great pickup, Rick! You know I LOVE that card!
Awesome cards, Rick! I love that Walter Johnson! I like that it's an actual photo and not an artists rendition. I live prewar cards, but I'm not ready to dip my toe in at this point. I do think some kind of scale or guide would be nice with prewar. There are so many sets out there. I think any tools we as collectors can use for education is a good thing. Awesome video!
I hope to come up with some kind of scale. Love doing the research. Thanks for watching
Great card. Dazzy Vance's rookie is in this set....as is Ted Lyons, I believe.
Yep! Thanks for watching
Is there a best estimate of the number of cards produced? Maybe a reverse logarithmic scale would help. If there’s only 1, then it gets a score of 10. If there are 10, it gets a 9 , down to if there are a billion, it gets a 1. Just an example without much forethought. A 1 of 1 made in 2024 is ineligible to participate. By the way, I loved seeing the “rare” Walter Johnson card!
Thanks Rick! I’m going to attempt the impossible
Awesome discussion! THanks for sharing and showing. I think that rare would also depend on a persons collecting habits as well.
Yes! Everybody is going to have an opinion on what is rare. It’s impossible to tell how many cards are really out there
Great vintage cards! Thanks for sharing. Congratulations on the newest addition.
Thanks!
Good video
Thanks
Bring back the plates !! 😂😂😂 awesome pick up Rick and love if there was a scale for scarcity 👊👊
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Rick you never cease to amaze with your collection. All of those are beyond incredible and based on the history and numbers I would say extremely rare to borderline extinct. Take care
Thanks David! I’m glad you took the time to watch. Hope you have a great rest of the week
The problem with a rarity scale is that there would be no way to gauge what a "rare" card is. Not everyone grades or authenticates their collections. Theres very few cards qualifying for that rare criteria, anyhow. Ironically, on another note, PSA doesnt even authenticate alot of truly rare collectibles, like photo slides, negatives, laserphotos, etc. So basically, theyll authenticate any other photo, but suddenly stopped authenticating laserphotos. How do you accept authenticating a type 1 photo and suddenly stop with the (laserphoto) type III? It seems to me that PSA has a ton of kinks to work out of their authentication methods before even bothering with anything else. Imagine this: you have a type 1 Bird rookie PSA authenticates, then you have a type III of the same photo that PSA rejects. How does this make any sense? Am I missing something here?
Thanks for your comments. Yes photos are difficult for even the experts to evaluate. I sure Henry Yee misses all the time.
@@vintageoddballcards6103 Isn't that concerning, though? Everytime I think PSA is doing better, they take a step back. I've even seen many Jordan photos from the 1980s labeled as 1990s. Their levels of expertise isn't very impressive, especially considering the fact they stopped authenticating laserphotos, and also continue to mislabel alot of photos they authenticate. It just doesn't seem sustainable, and I can't be the only one noticing this as a big problem. Sure, they're rare, but accurate labeling still matters.
Love that card Rick. I’m collecting HOF pitchers and want to pick up a Big Train for my collection. I always appreciate the information you give. Between you and Mangini class is always in session.
Hope everything is going well with you and your family. Say hi to your parents for me.
Awesome find right there, congrats!!!
Thanks Brad! Sorry about your Dolphins.
Gave a video like. Great Walter Johnson card!! I have been slowly working on completing a Frankenset consisting of mostly vintage cards. I have one card that I have been searching for that is a modern card of a legend which there are ten or less copies of known to exist. One which I know is in another collectors' collection. I have been searching for a copy for some time and have never seen another copy. Even though it's technically manufactured scarcity, I know I may never see one for sale. They all may remain tucked away in collections somewhere. Since it would also be one of the top five most valuable cards in my collection. I would consider it rare. I tend to connect rare with extremely scarce and also valuable. And tend to think of scarce as something that is hard to find yet can still expect to find one and may or may not necessarily be deemed valuable. Just my take, these terms are more individualistic. They don't have clear boundaries because they can be based on personal experiences. I liked hearing you talk about graded pop reports aren't everything, because many may not be graded. Such a great point! Terms can be fun to discuss. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and inviting other perspectives.
It’s impossible to really come up with a rarity scale
Great looking image on that Big Train. I never saw anything from that set
Thanks Joe!
Rick - I love the idea of a Scarcity scale! I think it would be very popular, and a useful reference for all collectors. In fact, I can't believe it hasnt been done already. After all, to own a scarce item is a very special thing, and it is a feeling many collectors seek. I am really glad you started this conversation, Rick. Next, we need to define criteria for different degrees of scarcity. And, no, this does not mean the modern "Superfractor", 5/25/50/199 etc.
lol no superfractors!
great card. I would love a rarity scale !!
Thanks! I might come up with something
Great backdrop Rick. Love that Mays and Mathewson are greatly represented. I think a rarity scale is fun and have no issue with using that term. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but are you saying that using the term rare for graded cards that collectors would generally not grade should not be applied so strongly? If so, I can somewhat agree. I can agree if the card can be commonly found raw (with a low pop report for that reason). It would be easy for you to go and grade it yourself after buying it. However, a non-star card that is tougher to find raw with a low pop report, I would classify that as rare.
I guess what I’m saying is just because a card has a low pop doesn’t always mean the card is rare. You need to look at the set itself. Might be other factors why that card hasn’t been graded. Like your mays oversized card. I don’t know what the pop is but, I’m sure it’s low. But, because of the size, some collectors will not grade it. You need to research other avenues to figure out its rarity
Great cards Rick! Like the new background!
Thanks Scott!
Amazing cards! I usually use the word rare when there are 100 or less and less than 20 is where I consider it super rare or ultra rare, or whatever. How we determine the real population is a good guess of course as you mentioned. Great topic!
Thanks! I going to come up with some kind of scale. Stay tune. lol
Great background Rick. The Johnson card is fantastic. I would love to talk to you more about the rarity topic.
Thanks John!
We don't need a rarity scale....we need a ODDBALL scale!
How about an oddball scale for collectors. I can think of plenty of oddball collectors
Very cool card, Papa Rick. Another I have never seen before today. I agree with your thoughts on rarity. Mangini is just addicted to the word "rare". Haha
He is! I’m becoming an alcoholic watching his videos
Hi Rick! Beautiful cards as always! Really love the Walter Johnson! I think it would be tough to come up with an accurate rarity scale for pre-war cards especially. It would be nearly impossible to find out how many cards were issued originally then to figure out how many are squirreled away in collections. To me if I can’t go out and buy one somewhere within the next week or two it’s at the very least scarce! 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks Jim! It would be very tough
Hi Rick. Wow, what a real beauty. Thanks for sharing my friend. Talk soon pal.
Thanks! It’s not a Jackie but it’s the next best thing
Do we really need a Mangini Meter for how rare these cards are? 🤪
No we don’t!!!
I’m loving the new display Rick. Lots of cool stuff back there. Very sweet Walter Johnson. Even with a hole in his face.😁 Maybe we need to have a secondary grading company place stickers on slabs, like CAC in the coin world, that signify rare or scarce. Interesting thought my friend.
Yes more stickers on slabs. Lol
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I would definitely use a rarity scale....but at the same time, don't care enough to put it together myself.
Love the Diaz Johnson Rick , what a great and an excellent representation of a rare card in my humble opinion. I would be very excited to see a scale of scarce to different degrees of rarity developed but that would be a daunting project to quantify. This would be a great project for you and the new hobby president 😂. LOL
Thanks Doug! I really enjoyed your video with Dan. Wow! You got a great collection of Joe wood cards
@vintageoddballcards6103 Thanks Rick !!
Amazing cards Rick! Love the Walter Johnson card as well as the Propagandas cards!
Thanks Jason!
Let Mangini take on that project Rick. He can put a rare to super rare stickers on the back of slabs. Awesome card.
lol yes all we need is a Mangini sticker on a card
Incredible Johnson card, congratulations on the rare pickup. Thank you for sharing the beautiful Cuban issues.
I thought you might like the card. I’m really happy to add it to my collection
Wow Rick what a find! Extremely rare card - never seen these before! Congratulations on the rare find!!
Thanks!
Let’s creat that scale Rick!
Sweet pickup . Thankful to have a Walter Johnson in my collection now too . Rare is overused/ loosely used term in the hobby today . But that card is most definitely rare
Thanks Adam!
Great rare oddball cards Rick.
That is a beautiful fruitcake card! 😂
Iol
Awesome Diaz Johnson Rick! Congrats on the pickup! Really liked the Ruth and Joe D as well!! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Darren!
Very interesting. I wouldn't call Wagner's t206 rare just scarce. Your Walter Johnson obviously rare. I have 3 Tabacelera La Morena cards, Cardinals and Washington team cards total 4 each graded by PSA and SGC and a Pennock /Meadows only 3 graded by SGC. Though they are rare,, not sure how desirable. I just won a 1916 BF2 Ferguson Pennant Jennings on VCP only one has sold in the past. Are they rare or people just do not grade them. Anyway love that Williams never seen it.
Congrats on the Ferguson pennant. Your right it’s tough to determine what is truly rare
Glad to see you back in the card room. Would love to see more items you have on display in future videos.
Thanks!
Hey Hey my friend! Nice to see a video! Always enjoyed your content! Happy collecting all!
I appreciate the kind words.
Nice new background! Interesting set.
Thanks!
Hey Rick, beautiful Walter Johnson. I watched a video by Nuf Ced Cards maybe a year ago (made 3 year ago) when he picked up Diaz cards. ua-cam.com/video/YobpQmaHTN0/v-deo.htmlsi=K7Ej6pSFVqbYe9ps I have the search saved on my Ebay in the event they pop up. Great Card!
@@TheDadsAreHere wow! Thanks for sharing! Looks like Andrew has the only other PSA graded Johnson card.
@@vintageoddballcards6103 so glad I read this comment as I went to the video link and watched Andrew’s video from 3 years ago. Just amazing stuff.
There's only 1 rick...you are rare my friend
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Very cools card nice video
Thanks!
Awesome collection!!!
@@jonssportscards6052 thanks!
Amazing Ruth and Alexander oddball transfers. Love the Plates by the way😉 Love that Vobb stamp! Never seen it.
Dont change anything! Love your channel Rick! And the name! This s**t has gotten out of hand. It's a shame. Love your collection!
i like the strategy, and i LOVE the Ruth transfer… crazy that the ‘Ol Pete and Ruth ended up together again 😂 Thanks for sharing Rick!