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Indeed. That one I do have in the 2014 version.

Thank you, I am. And yeah, I was gonna mention the absence on the inner groove sound loop in the Sgt Peper episode that will follow sometime soon. I think it is the only version of Sgt Pepper I have had so dar that did not have it.

300 bucks

@@BurgundySkies $38.00 per record? I'll take my chances on finding originals at Jerry's for about $5.00 a piece.

Well technically speaking each main record is 30 dollars (standard price). If you multiply 30 by 6 (which is the no. of the albums) you get 180 dollars. Then you are basically paying 120 bucks for The Beatles Story and the box.

@@BurgundySkies The ad says 8 records.

Yes, it's cause of the Beatles Story which is 2 discs. Not really an album though (at least not to me).

Thank you... x3. Regarding the Japanese Red Mono collections a corrected way to put it (according to Discogs) would be that they were pressed using the UK mono masters.

@BurgundySkies Discogs unfortunately isn't always correct. They let users amend the information without having any factual information to back it up. The Japanese were given second generation mix downs. EMI almost never sends their masters out to any other territory, and especially not the Beatles. Germany has has new mix down masters made on occasion, which is why the Magical Mystery Tour LP from there was the only true stereo LP up until the mid 90s. Japanese LPS were originally pressed from the US masters, which in some cases were even third generation tapes. In the late 70s and early 80s Japan upgraded their masters with second generation tapes, which are duplicates from the original EMI UK mix down masters, and that's when their sound quality really went up. Japan also used virgin vinyl and the red wax editions used the Everclean vinyl, a high end vinyl which I believe was exclusive to Japan, so the sound quality really improved with Japanese pressings at a time every other territory was starting to use lower quality vinyl. Keep up the good work!

Thank you very much. Indeed it did seem a bit out of character of Apple or EMI to ship original master tapes all the way over to Japan, but I must admit I did not think much of it, those being the 80s I just assumed maybe they hadn't yet realised how extra careful they had to be with these. Was also thinking about how they had lost/damaged some of the earlier tapes as well, so... Anyway... I hope to have a chance to compare the sound of these Japanese beauties with some of the 2014 ones. The one comparisson I managed to already make, but will not have a chance to repeat is between a 1969 UK Mono export pressing of Sgt Pepper's and the Japanese one I got. It's true the Japanese one was cleaner (as expected I guess), but overall I did not feel like the 69 UK one was significantly better. Obviously this is very subjective but... there it is. Thanks again for being here and for the clarifications. As a very green collector... this world is a thick and tricky jungle.

Yeah most films were either poorly cast or with low production value, or were suffering from quick cash grab syndrome. Birth of the Beatles was the Pete Best leaning one, no? PS: "wider berth" - nice, I'm gonna use that.

It’s not the U.S. configurations I dislike, it’s the sound quality. Some big wig at Capitol decided he could do a better job than George Martin at mixing their records. I’m so glad the U.S. Albums box set fixed those problems by not including the Re channeled versions of the singles. By including both mono and stereo mixes, they gave us the choice of which tracks we can put in the playlist. Deirdre also remixed Please Please Me, With the Beatles and the non album singles and B-Sides in super three dimensional stereo. And if that isn’t enough, another company remixed Rubber Soul, so we’re good to go. I also might add that the latest Deirdre remixes include the film edit version of I’ll Cry Instead in stereo (this is the one where the first verse is repeated after the third verse); the U.S. Rarities version of I Am the Walrus with the deleted extra bar of music just before the yellow matter custard verse and a new stereo mix of I’m Only Sleeping with all guitar solo placements in tact. Life is good.

I for one started with UK variations back in the 90s, so I guess it would be even harder for me to gravitate to the US albums. And the sound differences are a turn off for me as well, but I do have to admit that a couple of those US compilation albums are well built in terms of tracklistings. Meet the Beatles is one of them.

It is very probable. It's just... nowadays they could do so much better!

...is enough

Not so readily available anymore as of last year. I mean they are not rare. But will be less and less available new as they get replaced by the 2023 editions.

I agree, god bless the musicians who made it.

Thank you for being here and for the corrections, they are welcomed.

Moreover, I just realized a couple more mistakes I've made. One was an editing error I seem to have missed, where I made an edit that cut a few seconds off a sentence. Another one is saying that Across the Universe was mainly released in Stereo as part of Abbey Road. Obviously it was mainly stereo but on Let it Be, as well as the Noone'a gonna change our world charity compilation

Thank you. It does seem like at the origins there was an intent to make justice to the character, but there is also an apparent difference between intent and result.

@BurgundySkies I agree. The film really speeds up the pace (to it's detriment) in the second half and makes use of much more exposition, presumably because of budgetary constraints.

You are absolutely right. I fell in the trap of the americanization of the name I think. The whole movie did as well.

I agree with all your points. I think the Lennon actor (despite being good and clearly trying to give a good performance) was just not equipped to relay the dimension of John's personality. My view is that it's similar to the situation of Ramy Malek in Bohemian Rhapsody. Awesome actor, totally involved and strong performance, but not able to relay the force and larger than life dimension of the character.

lol, he seems like a good actor though, just a bit out of place given the very engrained image of the band

A pair of lifts would've helped.

Thank you.

Yes, most of the additions were absolutely the right choices. Enjoy your CDs!

Right on, I was looking over articles and rankings done by Rolling Stone and other publications over time and it's interesting to see how this shifted.

Yes, I think I mentioned the differences in track listings, but indeed not the dif. mixes. Thanks!

It's super interesting how diametrically opposed opinions on these albums can be, but this only means one thing: the music is timeless!

Meh, don't know about that. The clarity and dynamics are superb with the Giles mix IMHO.

I can't help but agree. Proof that tech can be used to great effect even on 60 years old recordings.

@@BurgundySkies Enjoy your presentations. I can't wait until your Sgt. Pepper analysis.

Thank you very very much. I really appreciate it. The Sgt Pepper episode will come in the following weeks.

Uffff, it is not here anymore as it will become apparent soon. I have to say though, as much as I listened to it, it was pretty nice. I will dig the matrixes, I know I had written them down at the time. As I (vaguely) recall... I think I had a mix, where 3 sides were from a version and 1 side from another. But not 100% sure, will double check.

So these apparently were the matrixes I had for The White Album: Matrix / Runout (LP09 Side A (etched)): YEX 709 //36405-1-Y 08-21652-1A-1 ⦸ A E Matrix / Runout (LP09 Side B (stamped)): YEX 710 138-04 173-B--36408-4Y Matrix / Runout (LP09 Side C): 04 174 A-1 (stamped) U (etched) Matrix / Runout (LP09 Side D (stamped)): YEX-712//43028-1Y B 08_21653_1B_1

I mean it's all a matter of personal preference. To be honest thought, my view on this album has shifted a bit since last year. So...

@@BurgundySkies I understand it is a matter of taste. Hopefully as your view shifts you will see the marvelous eclectic and hap hazard track listing as a work of art - whether It was intended that way or The Beatles just got lucky. In '68 it was not reviewed well but over the years more have come to appreciate it and I think among big fans like myself it ranks up there with Abbey Road for the most fans. Who'd a thunk it way back when. lol

At a certain point I will attempt to do a personal ranking. I tried to put one on paper a year ago, and then again a couple of months ago. They look kinda different. I do appreciate the unique build of this album, albeit one of the reasons for it being quite so eclectic is also their need to push put as many tracks as possible to get them out of their previous engagements. But beside that... when I will do my ranking there will be a couple of things that will influence my choices: 1. How many songs of each album I like (percentage wise)? 2. Does the track sound pleasant to me? Beyond this there dozens of other reasons, many of which very specific or personal, but those above are my main.

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Congrats on that!!! That is damn good price, and totally worth it. Enjoy it to the max! To be honest, the realistic prices for both this and the vinyl version should be much lower than they are, but obviously are inflated due to them not being produced anymore. But always good to see someome getting one at a decent price.

As you should, because despite mamy arguments between audiophiles, collectors or just regular fans with regard to sound quality or the proper way to listen to an album, much of what came in the past 15 years was qualitative.

That is correct. And it's normal given the state of stereo at the time.

Hey John, thanks for being here. Which version do you own?

@@BurgundySkies The original.

No, what I meant was: do you have the mono or the stereo? When you say the original you mean the UK first press, or subsequent ones?

@@BurgundySkies U.K. stereo

There's an online store in my own country that imports them, but the one which seems to have the best selection of good products in Europe are the guys at protected.de/ from Germany.

Thank you so much!!!

Thank you very much! Sounds like you have a solid system there. Any details on the components you'd care to share?

Thank you so much!!!

Thank you very much for being here and you are right, otherwise it would have not made sense for them to include the original mixes on the mono discs. And I guess these were the only two not using original stereo mixes, since only these had been re mixed by Martin in 87.

@@BurgundySkies Thank you for replying and being so welcoming! I must apologise- you speak about the original mixes being on the Mono CD - I wrote my comment while watching - I should have waited until the end - I’m sorry 🙏 I read that when the catalog was remastered in 2009, they continued to use the George Martin remixes for Help! and Rubber Soul, rather than revert to the original 1965 mixes, as they didn’t want to offend George Martin. But when he was asked about it he said that he didn’t remember remixing those albums in the 80s. To be fair, when you consider the amount of music that he worked on over the years, I think he can definitely be forgiven for that:) I really appreciated you showing the Cassettes too - according to another Beatles-focussed channel, the official Cassette releases from EMI also sometimes had the track listing rearranged - apparently it was to do with song lengths and making sure the tracks fit onto either side 1 or side 2, so not just something the unofficial releases did:)

Yes, the tracklisting on cassettes was altered for time, similar to what they did for 8 track. I was just confused why that Pirate Label tape had a different order even than regular original tapes.

@@BurgundySkies Yes that is strange. 🤔

No, I mean it depends what you're refering to. The original UK cover with the iconic picture and the font of the album title was used for both from the getgo. But since the album was released in both countries at the same time, they applied specifics to both covers, the parlophone logo and full cover picture for UK and rest of the world, and the white band at the top of the cover with Capitol Logo for the US one. The 87 CDs were made with the UK covers mostly, except MMT. But there were separately some US Captiol covers issues as well.

@@BurgundySkies All albums had the UK cover except for MMT and Rubber Soul. Every copy I've seen has the copper colored letters with Capitol logo. They screwed it up. Do a Google search for 1987 Rubber Soul CD, and see if the US cover isn't on the CD.

@@BurgundySkies Every 1987 CD I've see has the US cover, with the copper letters, and Capitol logo. It has the UK track listing. It was a screw up. Even the long boxes the CD came in had the US cover.

@@BurgundySkies Search here on UA-cam for 'The Beatles - Rubber Soul CD unboxing' and look at Unbox Kings International's video. It shows the 1987 CD, with the US cover, and UK track list. I've honestly never seen a 1987 Rubber Soul CD with a UK cover.

There definitely was an issue with some batches released like that, but generally speaking for Europe (including UK), the regular widely distributed issue was with the original UK cover. Check discogs and you will find around 5-6 issues in 1987 for Europe all with original UK cover. The one I have is this one: www.discogs.com/release/10421437-The-Beatles-Rubber-Soul But here are others as well: www.discogs.com/search/?q=rubber+soul&type=all&format_exact=CD&decade=1980&year=1987&country_exact=Europe

Hey there, thank you for being here. To answer your questions: 1. Yes, I do like the new mixes very much. I know overall on the two Red and Blue albums from 2023 there were a couple of mixes that people did not love, I do think that the Rubber Soul ones are excellent. Overall yes the 2014 Mono remains the best overall, at least until we get a full re-issue of Rubber Soul with all new mixes. Hopefully that will be this year. And you know... I would love for them to replicate original records and covers, incl for Mono Mix, New Stereo etc. But... your idea is great. It would be awesome if they included a copy of the US album as well. At least for Rubber Soul and why not A Hard Day's Night and Help whenever those might come. They lost that opportunity with Revolver.

With Nowhere Man maybe it makes sense to a certain degree. It's a very special type of song. But on the other hand I still feel like the album overall benefits more from less reverb.

​@@BurgundySkies- I will have to listen to the whole album to make a judgment. Thank you for responding.

Yeah, do try that. If you have the option try to compare one of the mono CDs or vinyl, or even one of the pre 87 stereos against the 87 CD.

​@@BurgundySkies - I don't have mono on cd. My vinyl is all packed away in storage. I don't have a working turntable now. I listened to the 1987 cd & found most of it didn't have reverb on it except for NOWHERE MAN, IN MY LIFE & IF I NEEDED SOMEONE. I could be wrong.

Thank you very much!!!

Yeah, there were releases of the UK albums back in 87 for the US market. Was a bit weird them puting the Capitol logo on the UK version but... Anyway, mine is the UK issue.

Thank you very much. This means a lot!

it's the one mentioned in the description: Marvin's Dance by Silent Partner

Thank you very much!!!

I guess they kept them cheaper, although they are clearly setup for scuffs. However, I noticed that even the poli inners can be problematic if they are too tight and also depend on temperature and the material they're produced from

Indeed, too bad since 2014 Apple did not get the memo that people really would have bought Mono pressings if they re issued them.

Indeed Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Bulgaria were (fortunately) places where people could actually procure Beatles albums during the Communism. Romania unfortunately was not. :( How do those Czechoslovakian pressings sound?

Hello. And how is that sound-wise. When looking for affordable pressings I often run into Mexican or Brazilian pressings, and I am always unsure of how they sound, as well as being a bit deterred by the distance.

Yeah, I mention the alternate mixes for Rubber Soul and Help in later videos when I had both to compare. Well Rubber Soul is still pending. To be honest in headphones some of these mixes are jarring. In speakers at a certain distance they sound quite nice, but I have to say I slightly prefer the 2009 CDs to the original 87 ones, at least for some albums. Also tend to prefer some of the recent new mixes by Giles.

@@BurgundySkies I'm not surprised. with a fresh new set of ears, George Martin put more dimension and fullness into those '87 mixes. Add the 2009 touch for the modern speaker set and bam! The best way for me to listen to The Night Before is the 2009 version!

This!!! You mention The Night Before, but it goes for almost any song, meaning if you put all versions of a song side by side, I doubt anyone would ever choose one year/version of the album/pressing/cd. You have songs that sound excellent on the 2009 remasters, some which sound pretty nice on the 87 cds, some which sound better in Mono, some in Stereo, some original mixes still stand, but Giles did an excellent job on some tracks and made more recent versions of albums the go-to for me (vinyl and CD). One one hand it's nice, multiple versions can sometimes mean different but still pleasant experiences. One the other hand... having to own "n" versions of an album just to get the best variations is a big frustrating.

Thank you for this. Additional context and info will always be welcomed, if not always for me, at least for other people visiting. I became familiar in the past couple of years with all the elements that shaped the original mixes, and this demix tech that has been out for the past two years should allow for stronger stereo mixes. Of course, given that any mix is a personal thing for the engineer/producer, and the fact that anyone can make mistakes, there will always be results that do not please everyone (see the new mix of Magical Mystery Tour from the 2023 Blue album). But, at least for Stereo, some of these were sorely needed.

@@BurgundySkies Good point: some Beatles could use a stereo refresh for a full sounding, wide stereo image. That Magically Mystery Tour remix is likely a cut and paste job from the MMT box set that came out in I think 2012. Unless they tinkered with it recently, most 2023 Blue album tracks are a cut and paste of the Giles Martin/Sam Okell anniversary editions. I've never heard the MMT box set (it contains a replica double EP as one of its goodies) so im curious.

Yeah that MMT boxset is kinda winking at me, especially since (despite not having a new mix) it makes it less likely that another deluxe edition of it is coming any time soon. :(

@@BurgundySkies 2017 would have been an anniversary year and that has come and passed. they're making business decisions, and MMT is not an Abbey Road or Sgt. Pepper from a recognizable, popular and high selling point of view, so it got overlooked, just like the Yellow Submarine album!

In terms of how these compilations were built and how at least some of their variations sound, I totally agree. Music of course is subjective, quality of sound can be to a certain extent, but here to me it's quite clear.