That is a great point about the 2014 1962-1966 Red & 1967-1970 Blue albums as their mixed directly from the original master tapes. They are readily available and a great way to start an analog Beatles collection.
Not so readily available anymore as of last year. I mean they are not rare. But will be less and less available new as they get replaced by the 2023 editions.
Great video. That was very informative and entertaining. Regarding Magical Mystery Tour, there is a 1972 German reissue as "Club-Sonderauflage" or club edition with the normal "international" cover (no gatefold) , for which they have used the same stamper as for the HörZu or Apple editions - but look out for the matrix on Side b for the "B-3". There is also an other version with "B" and the mono songs on side B available. This version is a little bit cheaper as the HörZu. I also noticed, that at least in Germany prices on Ebay go down for the BC13 sets again. Currently UK and Dutch BC13 are sold for approx. 190 EUR.. some are more, some are less expensive. And it always depends who else is bidding. With my luck, it always goes more expensive. BR from Munich
Forgot to mention: Your vintage system is great and I am sure it has a fantastic sound. It could be worth considering upgrading the stylus, but keep the system as long as it works. It's a great system!
Thank you very much. Yeah I kinda knew that at least the turntable is decent, although unfortunately bought it with some issues. But I never know when comparing to others since I was so disconnected from this world for so long. Firstly audiophiles are always talking about pieces in which only the turntable costs more than my entire collection. Then even regular collectors may have better ones, so that's why I thought I would not assume.
Thanks a lot for checking it out. Yeah, there are some variations, and as you also mentioned, the important thing is to track the right matrices. On the other hand the -1 -3 generally have high prices, especially for NM records, although it is clear that you have better chances of snagging a decent one if it's not that early 2nd press. But I still stand by that the early 80s UK presses should be good, if you forgo the fake stereo for those 3 tracks.
Nice video, thank you. The 2014 red and blue albums were all made in Germany here in the US. That MMT is really cool, never seen one with that cover. I find eBay very reliable, never used Discogs. My local whole in the wall record store is full of US Capital pressing, very cheap also if you want some 😆
Thank you for being here. It's interesting that being in the US you still see the EU version, I would have expected you would see the Canadian pressing of which some people complained (there seemed to be two more pressing versions from Germany and Netherlands). With the local stores yeah, that is kinda what I was saying also about the UK, much easier to get good stuff if you're in one of these countries, although prices are roughly the same as I mentioned. In my part of Europe though... it's not impossible but just... harder and more expensive due to transport and import costs.
Regarding Ebay... I tend to find buying there more expensive especially when buying stuff from the US. And the thing is... most of the things I find there that I would want, are either from US, UK or Japan, and all come with hefty shipping costs, even if the base price of the product is ok.
I have couple of the stereo 2012 reissues made in Canada and I had no problem with those. Bought as replacements for the black vinyl box, which had some bad pressing. Those Gile Martin remixes also from Canada and were very good. I hear you about the shipping cost. Same for me, very expensive from Europe unfortunately.
The 1987 pressing with the "digitally mastered tape" textbox in the gatefold should be in true stereo too. This was released along the CD version (true stereo) and all the other albums. Probably same source since these reissues include the CD/CS cat. no. on the back.
That was analog. It started in 1980 and was produced up until the end of 80s, I am not 100% sure about the very late versions but it is probable those remained analog. The only issue is that the Beatles Box was effectively a compilation, not full albums.
If you are okay with the US configurations and just want your Beatles for listening and not for collecting the US and Canadian 70's and early 80's reissues are pretty well regarded. There's fun variants to look for too like having early Beatles titles with Apple Records labels, the green Capitol record club pressings, the short lived red/ reddish orange Capitol label, and the later retro labels, purple Capitol and then the return of the 60's black and rainbow label.
Oh, I am sure that especially for serious collectors there are many variants to consider, although this was definitely intended with listening in mind as well, and it seems like generally when people talk about that they do seem to agree that many European pressings are preferable . Now there are a few reasons (at least for me) to go with the UK catalogue: it was their intended and curated catalogue (well if you consider most of the main albums at least), the quality on some of these EU pressings (from UK, Germany or even Netherlands) seems to be some of (if not) the best, mathematically I believe it takes buying less records than if you were to use the US catalogue, and thus potentially cheaper (although I acknowledge that maybe buying US re-presses from the 80s you might get some good prices), and finally sound wise the changes done on a big chunk of the main albums for the American market might not be everyone's cup of tea. That is not to say that I can't appreciate it would be fun going the NA route, and probably the idea collection has both anyway. But you know... budget. 😁😁😁 For the US fans though, it probably makes sense that if you have to absolutely choose and then stay within 600 USD, your choice might be the NA pressings, if not for anything else at least for ease of access and why not for the fact that you might have grown up on them. Fully understandable.
The US reissues from 1978 are definitely the best in terms of SQ! Another set of reissues that get overlooked are the very brief 1995 UK albums released on Capitol's purple label. Those are, from what I remember, the only set that uses the 1987/88 digital masters. Just a neat curio.
I mean considering digital masters and remasters, choices are plenty. Or at least you can say you have more affordable options that would potentially be in excellent condition.
That is a great point about the 2014 1962-1966 Red & 1967-1970 Blue albums as their mixed directly from the original master tapes. They are readily available and a great way to start an analog Beatles collection.
Not so readily available anymore as of last year. I mean they are not rare. But will be less and less available new as they get replaced by the 2023 editions.
Great over view!
Thank you very much!!!
Great video. That was very informative and entertaining. Regarding Magical Mystery Tour, there is a 1972 German reissue as "Club-Sonderauflage" or club edition with the normal "international" cover (no gatefold) , for which they have used the same stamper as for the HörZu or Apple editions - but look out for the matrix on Side b for the "B-3". There is also an other version with "B" and the mono songs on side B available. This version is a little bit cheaper as the HörZu. I also noticed, that at least in Germany prices on Ebay go down for the BC13 sets again. Currently UK and Dutch BC13 are sold for approx. 190 EUR.. some are more, some are less expensive. And it always depends who else is bidding. With my luck, it always goes more expensive. BR from Munich
Forgot to mention: Your vintage system is great and I am sure it has a fantastic sound. It could be worth considering upgrading the stylus, but keep the system as long as it works. It's a great system!
Thank you very much. Yeah I kinda knew that at least the turntable is decent, although unfortunately bought it with some issues. But I never know when comparing to others since I was so disconnected from this world for so long. Firstly audiophiles are always talking about pieces in which only the turntable costs more than my entire collection. Then even regular collectors may have better ones, so that's why I thought I would not assume.
Thanks a lot for checking it out. Yeah, there are some variations, and as you also mentioned, the important thing is to track the right matrices. On the other hand the -1 -3 generally have high prices, especially for NM records, although it is clear that you have better chances of snagging a decent one if it's not that early 2nd press. But I still stand by that the early 80s UK presses should be good, if you forgo the fake stereo for those 3 tracks.
Nice video, thank you. The 2014 red and blue albums were all made in Germany here in the US. That MMT is really cool, never seen one with that cover. I find eBay very reliable, never used Discogs. My local whole in the wall record store is full of US Capital pressing, very cheap also if you want some 😆
Thank you for being here. It's interesting that being in the US you still see the EU version, I would have expected you would see the Canadian pressing of which some people complained (there seemed to be two more pressing versions from Germany and Netherlands). With the local stores yeah, that is kinda what I was saying also about the UK, much easier to get good stuff if you're in one of these countries, although prices are roughly the same as I mentioned. In my part of Europe though... it's not impossible but just... harder and more expensive due to transport and import costs.
Regarding Ebay... I tend to find buying there more expensive especially when buying stuff from the US. And the thing is... most of the things I find there that I would want, are either from US, UK or Japan, and all come with hefty shipping costs, even if the base price of the product is ok.
I have couple of the stereo 2012 reissues made in Canada and I had no problem with those. Bought as replacements for the black vinyl box, which had some bad pressing. Those Gile Martin remixes also from Canada and were very good. I hear you about the shipping cost. Same for me, very expensive from Europe unfortunately.
Good work man, keep it up.
Thank you! I appreciate it!
I have all analog versions of my, I know the 2012 is digital but it’s sound great
Indeed, I only have it on CD, but sounded very nice to my ears.
Also the uk mmt was cut from capital tapes in 1976. So it’s fake stereo. 2012 is real stereo
Indeed, I was refering to the 80s ones though as being fairly accesible and decent quality pressings.
The 1987 pressing with the "digitally mastered tape" textbox in the gatefold should be in true stereo too. This was released along the CD version (true stereo) and all the other albums. Probably same source since these reissues include the CD/CS cat. no. on the back.
what about liverpool wood looking box is that analog or digital/
That was analog. It started in 1980 and was produced up until the end of 80s, I am not 100% sure about the very late versions but it is probable those remained analog. The only issue is that the Beatles Box was effectively a compilation, not full albums.
If you are okay with the US configurations and just want your Beatles for listening and not for collecting the US and Canadian 70's and early 80's reissues are pretty well regarded. There's fun variants to look for too like having early Beatles titles with Apple Records labels, the green Capitol record club pressings, the short lived red/ reddish orange Capitol label, and the later retro labels, purple Capitol and then the return of the 60's black and rainbow label.
Oh, I am sure that especially for serious collectors there are many variants to consider, although this was definitely intended with listening in mind as well, and it seems like generally when people talk about that they do seem to agree that many European pressings are preferable .
Now there are a few reasons (at least for me) to go with the UK catalogue: it was their intended and curated catalogue (well if you consider most of the main albums at least), the quality on some of these EU pressings (from UK, Germany or even Netherlands) seems to be some of (if not) the best, mathematically I believe it takes buying less records than if you were to use the US catalogue, and thus potentially cheaper (although I acknowledge that maybe buying US re-presses from the 80s you might get some good prices), and finally sound wise the changes done on a big chunk of the main albums for the American market might not be everyone's cup of tea.
That is not to say that I can't appreciate it would be fun going the NA route, and probably the idea collection has both anyway. But you know... budget. 😁😁😁
For the US fans though, it probably makes sense that if you have to absolutely choose and then stay within 600 USD, your choice might be the NA pressings, if not for anything else at least for ease of access and why not for the fact that you might have grown up on them.
Fully understandable.
The US reissues from 1978 are definitely the best in terms of SQ! Another set of reissues that get overlooked are the very brief 1995 UK albums released on Capitol's purple label. Those are, from what I remember, the only set that uses the 1987/88 digital masters. Just a neat curio.
I mean considering digital masters and remasters, choices are plenty. Or at least you can say you have more affordable options that would potentially be in excellent condition.