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The main reason is the Mutated Cap Battery, having good cap usage stats on other modules. The 69% is also because I do not have the AB activated in the Pyfa overview, if you hit the "legendary" Angel/Cynabal spawn you disable that to conserve cap. The same applies when a heavy neuting vedmak spawn hits you, once they catch-up it helps turning the AB off to save cap.

Hi! That's great to hear. Honestly, the ISK is all in T6. The jump from T5 to T6 is quite significant. It also depends on the weather you choose to run. For instance, the average ISK earnings in Exotics are typically lower than in Darks. However, you can usually complete 5 runs of Exotics within an hour. I have the most experience with Darks. While it does depend on RNG, the usual earnings are around 400-500 million ISK per hour. This can significantly increase if you manage to get a Capital Muta or Unstable Glorfied.

@@2Kraeze Oh ok so Darks are better then excotics the build you lost and are replacing is that the dark fit? kind of coping that one an you never get Nueted? Thats what seems to kill me every time with the gila fits so now going to try the cerb

@@2Kraeze I just lost this build lol about 5 bil down the drain i could not get past last room they was repping damivaks could not break their tanks build seem solid up to that point and it was a t5 was testing the build ran out of time

@@Archeydec sorry to hear! For Cerberus in that room for Darks it's key to immediately take down the "Ghosting Damaviks". When the remote reps start kicking in you should switch to the Vedmaks as they do the RR, then you switch back to Damaviks. Makes sure you use Navy ammo on the Damaviks and switch to Rage for the Vedmaks if it's a good few of them, otherwise just keep Navy as you lose more time reloading vs dps.

@@2Kraeze ty for the advice

I will reply once and depending on your reply I will decide to delete or keep you're reply as you either misunderstood or didn't watch the whole video. This fit works, I will show all difficult spawns and reply to all questions in an upcoming video to share how to handle all. The mutated Aug. Vespa's you only use for Ephi's, check their resistance profile before replying, you use Mutated Valk's for anything else per the video. The main benefit from the Aug. Vespa's in the additional shield, it's not the DPS perse. For Firestorm (different fit) there are more reasons to use mutated Aug. Vespa's. The tank is sufficient, because of the low signature (good LSE's) + good afterburner. I suggest you join the abyssal lurker discord for more details or questions, it's a great forum to discuss and learn before you make comments about fit's not working.

Yes, that should work but maybe add a Pyro for the additional dps on the missiles. Time is everything so the more dps the better, but that should allow you to kill all spawn combinations on time, just keep applying dps as quick as possible.

Yeah added a skill, as well as pyro and a crash booster for better application. Still a few missile and drone skills to add more dps. Couldnt afford mutated damage amps anymore for now haha. 60 dps short of your fit should be fine I guess

Personally I'm not a big fan of a passive fit outside of gamma's, I rather go active but if it works it works ;-)

@@2Kraeze I can explain my point about exotics. Fist gama weather buffs not only your shields, but enemies too, so theit harder to kill, second - vespas get better dps then valkyries, so i can sacrifice one DDA for damage control to make damage even. Killing enemies faster means easer to tank in long period of time. Third triglavs damage is thermal+explosive - so u have better resistances in exotic weather then in gamma weather about triglavs. Avarage run t6 exotic about 14 minutes. I from 90 recorded runs only once drop to 20% of shield. And its was my fault, i managed bad karen wave and get short on time and low on shields at the same time. But overall i am survived. Any way, my main question was how get tag on abyssal tracker that fit is works. I only saw those tags on streames fits.

The drops are pure RNG, sometimes you get 80mil from a run and sometimes a glorified unstable drops that gives you 2 to 3 bil. When running the abyss is always going to be the average over 10/20/30 runs to see what you really made per run. I'd say it's about 500mil/h approx. if you put in those runs. There are cheaper options, either harder to fly and/or adding more risk. This fit is purely to make life as easy as it get's in T6. My cheap Cerberus is a lot cheaper than this, also run T6 extremely well, just more expensive fila's at the moment.

I'd be the first to agree there are cheaper options, they will always add more risk though. The abyss gives what it wants, a 2 to 3 bil glorified muta can drop at any time as well... it's all about running enough so it averages out nicely ;-)

@ I prob have not done enough abyssal to understand them like u probably..😁😁😁😁

Yeah, sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. I just sold a 3bil Glorified Unstable from another run so yeah, that's rng for you ;-)

@@2Kraeze I trust your work don't worry. The t6 cerb has made me plenty of money lol. Rng giveth

There are cheaper more risky fits, it's all about preference. I didn't start with such setup, just been perfecting based on my wallet size.

I'd suggest a slightly cheaper fit than the one here: gustavmannfred.streamlit.app/Gamma_Gila I've not done any testing in T5 myself, my personal experience is that T5's require a pretty hefty investment so it makes more sense to get a T6 fit, do some testing in T5 and dive into T6.

The safest option is taking out the Arrester Pacifier (frig) first as they web, keep your range (go for a node) and take BS's out and then work on the rest. It does depend how many neuts are around but this will work. This will apply for most weathers/ships. Because of the buffer you've got a easier time vs a Sac in T6 Fire for example.

Although extenders increase the overall shield the regen is a lot lower, from a tanking perspective the regen beats overall shield. I believe the recent vid from Gustav Mannfred talks more about the Purgers vs Extenders reasoning and why they are better. For the Vedmak room it's important to clear Tangling first and then go for the Vedmaks straight away, it depends on the spawn composition but I'm looking for a good recording of that room to share.

There are cheaper options, either harder to fly and/or adding more risk. This fit is purely to make life as easy as it get's in T6. The drops are pure RNG, sometimes you get 80mil from a run and sometimes a glorified unstable drops that gives you 2 to 3 bil. When running the abyss is always going to be the average over 10/20/30 runs to see what you really made per run. I'd say it's about 500mil/h approx if you put in those runs. Check out the Cheap Cerberus vids for a cheaper option ;-)

@@DaaDucktator Yeah, passive Gila makes that easy... only need to adjust angle if it becomes too much 😉

Thanks, it's been busy in real-life... I do still record bits and pieces and hopefully will be able to edit again soon. Happy Xmas! ;-)

@@disekjoumoer Yep, this is where a mwd loki really shines vs this setup. I use that for winter nexus as there is no telescope to kill (so to fly all the way back)

There is no Shipyard in T6, also the gate is always open so you can always just AB/MWD to the gate and jump out. You do not need to complete that one.

@@2Kraeze glad there aren't any in T6 lol I was gonna run T5s till I'm comfy with the fit and was worried but just remembered the fits for darks not exotics 😂 leshaks only have about 32km range in a dark right?

It depends on the effect but to lose a bad roll just clone jump to another / empty clone and back if you need too. Player Structures are the best for this, just be careful they don't get destroyed with your stuff inside.

I've not had issues running out of time but have not had a worst combo yet, however I've been able to complete all those waves within the 6:40 timer. This does mean it can get closer to the timer yes. Changing the the +3's to +5's will help, using Pyro or slightly better BCS's. However if it gets too expensive it makes more sense to go for the Cerberus is my view.

The cerb anyday, but this is cheaper ... so if you're strapped for isk "this is the way" ;-)

That's when you overheat, without that it's 60%

@@2Kraeze oh… ty very mutch. Plz, where can I find this fitting sheat ?

1. I've used several sources when building / testing, Abyssal Lurker Discord, Abyss Tracker, etc. Then just going cheaper and cheaper until it's not longer stable... hitting that sweet spot ;-) 2. If you have the same cap usages for the SB/AB (keep in mind cycle time as well) it should be more or less the same. There are a ton of good SB/AB's but they consume a ton of cap.. which is worse, you don't need more rep.. you need more conserving cap imho. 3. This is due to overheating the harder, which so far I've only had to do once or twice tbh.. the fit is very capable without it.

@@2Kraeze ok I’ll search where this cap dripping come from.

I always lose them... I try to stay away from them and usually by moving around you negate some DPS. But it's all about preference and play style. The MTU is def. worth it to increase isk/h

How are you feeling about firestorms? Dark prices are climbing

@@IscariottActual Gila performs well but the damage to drones (armor) is something I hate. If you have a Cerb it might be easier to switch to Exotics (you can do 5 in an hr) if those are cheaper. I'd still stick with Darks tbh, prices go up an down... just buy when they are on the lower end ;-)

Who knows, RL is pretty busy atm and going on holiday for a few weeks so not anytime soon. But gotha finish that Muninn stuff first... wish there were more hrs in a day!

I have not had issues so far for T5's tbh, however skills / experience does make a big difference sometimes.

None of my runs on Caldarijoans Munin were more than 15 mins. Cheap and consistent fit.

@@MrQuidy That's how it works for all higher end combat site income.. I have over 2k runs with my other cerb, so.. it is very viable 😉

@@2Kraeze That is not my expirience - maybe you can do 2k runs on a single ship, for me 50-100 was usually breaking point. Good luck anyway

@@MrQuidy Ah, with the Cerb? The Cerb is not the fastest runner but extremely stable compared to drone boats for example.

Yes, if a fit runs a specific weather T6 it will run all of the below as well. However, most of the times there are cheaper alternatives, for example the Muninn can go up to T5 and be a lot cheaper for those. But to practice the ship it's always good to run like a few T4's, a good bunch of T5's and then make the move to T6.

@@2Kraeze Thank you for the info! I'm interested in that Muninn fit as I have a hull sitting around, do you have one?

@@Mortechai caldarijoans.streamlit.app/Dark_Muninn However, I have not flown this one myself so I cannot guarantee this survives all waves at this stage.

I flew it more than I expected because of the cost & risk with gankers than my expensive one tbh. Especially at the peak server hours it's a lot more relaxed to fly it. I netted like 10bil so def. isk positive. This is the first ever cerb that I lost since I got back to EVE 3/4 years ago so overall I'm up massively anyway :-)

Yes, I changed it already a while ago (the other 2 fits videos) and mainly because of the Angel wave indeed and the PDS helps with the fitting (making it cheaper). The applied DPS is still enough, especially if you upgrade clone / more dps. The ADC Dual Rigor is still valid, but the EM reinforcer makes the runs easier imho.

@@2Kraeze Thanks for your response. I changed it too, but left the ADC in fit cos of ganks. I survived 3 ganks with it already...0.6 tier5 with an abyssal one (12,5 sec) and the cap is still good, almost 70% stable.

It depends on the room and experience, with the cheap setup it's harder than with the pimped for sure. That's because of the limited range with the LG Hydra vs HG.

The Gila is easier to fly for sure, bit more buffer en cap so it's more suitable. This ship is more the alternative if you don't like to use drones ;-)

There are a lot of people in the Abyssal Lurker Discord that know way more about the lower tiers than me, I'd really suggest to take a peak there for any questions as you'll get more specifics than I could ever give ;-)

Not sure about the number but I only received crap tbh, looks like it's better to get components through nullsec for example imho.Better drops there it seems.

Well you can already jump into the lower tier abyss as a beginner and start earning pretty decent isk early on. Then slowly skill into the higher tiers if it's something you like doing. Although unrealistic but if you skill all the right skills for just this you'll need around 40mil sp I think. I've injected an alt before and I think it's somewhere around that mark.

With the trig gun nerf the Iki is just a expensive ship that can barely make T5's, so I'd suggest to re-skill thanks to CCP as the Iki is easily replaced for a cheaper Gila for example. Maybe a Sac might be good, but it will go into the expensive territory as well, even for T5 I think.