In my experience, you must have over 650 hps passive tank in order to survive some tough spawns (like 6 Vedmaks for example). IMHO, 524 hps - as in your case - looks pretty risky.
Yes, that should work but maybe add a Pyro for the additional dps on the missiles. Time is everything so the more dps the better, but that should allow you to kill all spawn combinations on time, just keep applying dps as quick as possible.
Yeah added a skill, as well as pyro and a crash booster for better application. Still a few missile and drone skills to add more dps. Couldnt afford mutated damage amps anymore for now haha. 60 dps short of your fit should be fine I guess
I curently experiment with passive gila in t6 exotic. What do u think overall? Its less dps required because of weather, faster runs. Instead of one dda i put damage control and 4 shield exenders. Against big neuts i manualy put on shield hardeners between neut cycles. I record 20 runs currently, including 2 karens and one full ephialtes rooms in sequence. And i feel good about overall. T6 gamma i feel i can go short on time.
@@2Kraeze I can explain my point about exotics. Fist gama weather buffs not only your shields, but enemies too, so theit harder to kill, second - vespas get better dps then valkyries, so i can sacrifice one DDA for damage control to make damage even. Killing enemies faster means easer to tank in long period of time. Third triglavs damage is thermal+explosive - so u have better resistances in exotic weather then in gamma weather about triglavs. Avarage run t6 exotic about 14 minutes. I from 90 recorded runs only once drop to 20% of shield. And its was my fault, i managed bad karen wave and get short on time and low on shields at the same time. But overall i am survived. Any way, my main question was how get tag on abyssal tracker that fit is works. I only saw those tags on streames fits.
Although extenders increase the overall shield the regen is a lot lower, from a tanking perspective the regen beats overall shield. I believe the recent vid from Gustav Mannfred talks more about the Purgers vs Extenders reasoning and why they are better. For the Vedmak room it's important to clear Tangling first and then go for the Vedmaks straight away, it depends on the spawn composition but I'm looking for a good recording of that room to share.
I'd suggest a slightly cheaper fit than the one here: gustavmannfred.streamlit.app/Gamma_Gila I've not done any testing in T5 myself, my personal experience is that T5's require a pretty hefty investment so it makes more sense to get a T6 fit, do some testing in T5 and dive into T6.
The safest option is taking out the Arrester Pacifier (frig) first as they web, keep your range (go for a node) and take BS's out and then work on the rest. It does depend how many neuts are around but this will work. This will apply for most weathers/ships. Because of the buffer you've got a easier time vs a Sac in T6 Fire for example.
There are cheaper options, either harder to fly and/or adding more risk. This fit is purely to make life as easy as it get's in T6. The drops are pure RNG, sometimes you get 80mil from a run and sometimes a glorified unstable drops that gives you 2 to 3 bil. When running the abyss is always going to be the average over 10/20/30 runs to see what you really made per run. I'd say it's about 500mil/h approx if you put in those runs. Check out the Cheap Cerberus vids for a cheaper option ;-)
The drops are pure RNG, sometimes you get 80mil from a run and sometimes a glorified unstable drops that gives you 2 to 3 bil. When running the abyss is always going to be the average over 10/20/30 runs to see what you really made per run. I'd say it's about 500mil/h approx. if you put in those runs. There are cheaper options, either harder to fly and/or adding more risk. This fit is purely to make life as easy as it get's in T6. My cheap Cerberus is a lot cheaper than this, also run T6 extremely well, just more expensive fila's at the moment.
I'd be the first to agree there are cheaper options, they will always add more risk though. The abyss gives what it wants, a 2 to 3 bil glorified muta can drop at any time as well... it's all about running enough so it averages out nicely ;-)
Its a cool game. Space pilot and grafics and all. But by far the worst monatized game i have ever seen. Extreemly grindy and insanly expensive. PVP has any and every advantige over anything, everything and every one. A typical pay to win game. Keep hiding behind behind the elution "This is EVE". Yes, the eve of every players bank account. Thats the truth about this game. A money grab like nothing you have ever seen in your life.
In my experience, you must have over 650 hps passive tank in order to survive some tough spawns (like 6 Vedmaks for example). IMHO, 524 hps - as in your case - looks pretty risky.
You reckon one can run it with similar tank and 784 dps on valks and 930 dps with vespas?
Yes, that should work but maybe add a Pyro for the additional dps on the missiles. Time is everything so the more dps the better, but that should allow you to kill all spawn combinations on time, just keep applying dps as quick as possible.
Yeah added a skill, as well as pyro and a crash booster for better application. Still a few missile and drone skills to add more dps. Couldnt afford mutated damage amps anymore for now haha. 60 dps short of your fit should be fine I guess
I curently experiment with passive gila in t6 exotic. What do u think overall? Its less dps required because of weather, faster runs. Instead of one dda i put damage control and 4 shield exenders. Against big neuts i manualy put on shield hardeners between neut cycles. I record 20 runs currently, including 2 karens and one full ephialtes rooms in sequence. And i feel good about overall. T6 gamma i feel i can go short on time.
Personally I'm not a big fan of a passive fit outside of gamma's, I rather go active but if it works it works ;-)
@@2Kraeze I can explain my point about exotics. Fist gama weather buffs not only your shields, but enemies too, so theit harder to kill, second - vespas get better dps then valkyries, so i can sacrifice one DDA for damage control to make damage even. Killing enemies faster means easer to tank in long period of time. Third triglavs damage is thermal+explosive - so u have better resistances in exotic weather then in gamma weather about triglavs. Avarage run t6 exotic about 14 minutes. I from 90 recorded runs only once drop to 20% of shield. And its was my fault, i managed bad karen wave and get short on time and low on shields at the same time. But overall i am survived. Any way, my main question was how get tag on abyssal tracker that fit is works. I only saw those tags on streames fits.
Why do you prefer the purger vs the extender fit? Karen took you down to half shield I wonder what a really bad vedmark room would do?
Although extenders increase the overall shield the regen is a lot lower, from a tanking perspective the regen beats overall shield. I believe the recent vid from Gustav Mannfred talks more about the Purgers vs Extenders reasoning and why they are better.
For the Vedmak room it's important to clear Tangling first and then go for the Vedmaks straight away, it depends on the spawn composition but I'm looking for a good recording of that room to share.
Hey, can you recommend some passive fit for a t5 ?
I'd suggest a slightly cheaper fit than the one here: gustavmannfred.streamlit.app/Gamma_Gila
I've not done any testing in T5 myself, my personal experience is that T5's require a pretty hefty investment so it makes more sense to get a T6 fit, do some testing in T5 and dive into T6.
That loot was not a rousing endorsement of the investment lol. Good vid though.
Yeah, sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. I just sold a 3bil Glorified Unstable from another run so yeah, that's rng for you ;-)
@@2Kraeze I trust your work don't worry. The t6 cerb has made me plenty of money lol. Rng giveth
What do I do if I see a marshal room?? -Abyss noob
The safest option is taking out the Arrester Pacifier (frig) first as they web, keep your range (go for a node) and take BS's out and then work on the rest. It does depend how many neuts are around but this will work. This will apply for most weathers/ships. Because of the buffer you've got a easier time vs a Sac in T6 Fire for example.
What the hell was that face tanking Karen 😐
@@DaaDucktator Yeah, passive Gila makes that easy... only need to adjust angle if it becomes too much 😉
T6 passive Gila is only 30bil
There are cheaper more risky fits, it's all about preference. I didn't start with such setup, just been perfecting based on my wallet size.
15b ship farms nothing, very cool
There are cheaper options, either harder to fly and/or adding more risk. This fit is purely to make life as easy as it get's in T6.
The drops are pure RNG, sometimes you get 80mil from a run and sometimes a glorified unstable drops that gives you 2 to 3 bil. When running the abyss is always going to be the average over 10/20/30 runs to see what you really made per run. I'd say it's about 500mil/h approx if you put in those runs.
Check out the Cheap Cerberus vids for a cheaper option ;-)
just like the 4 nestors farm havens , 10b makes a website for 30 million, cool
The drops are pure RNG, sometimes you get 80mil from a run and sometimes a glorified unstable drops that gives you 2 to 3 bil. When running the abyss is always going to be the average over 10/20/30 runs to see what you really made per run. I'd say it's about 500mil/h approx. if you put in those runs.
There are cheaper options, either harder to fly and/or adding more risk. This fit is purely to make life as easy as it get's in T6. My cheap Cerberus is a lot cheaper than this, also run T6 extremely well, just more expensive fila's at the moment.
Loot is not as good for such expensive fit.., would need to run sooo many just to make back the cost…. But gg…. Ur a demon in this ship 💪💪💪💪💪💪
I'd be the first to agree there are cheaper options, they will always add more risk though. The abyss gives what it wants, a 2 to 3 bil glorified muta can drop at any time as well... it's all about running enough so it averages out nicely ;-)
@ I prob have not done enough abyssal to understand them like u probably..😁😁😁😁
Its a cool game. Space pilot and grafics and all. But by far the worst monatized game i have ever seen. Extreemly grindy and insanly expensive. PVP has any and every advantige over anything, everything and every one. A typical pay to win game. Keep hiding behind behind the elution "This is EVE". Yes, the eve of every players bank account. Thats the truth about this game. A money grab like nothing you have ever seen in your life.