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Thanks a lot mate! ❤️❤️

Ok just terrible moderaters

I’m sorry you feel that way! Most viewers really enjoyed and gave positive feedback. With that said, we agree that we want to be a bit more analytical going forward.

It works on any aircraft, and the more slots the more benefits you will get for setting up a 3 line system. //TheRealBoppus

Haha, did I smash it somwhere?

@@hyggegaming you didn't. it just looked so animated and expressive. very fun. also the sound seems a bit "far away" there's a lot of room sound. but it's not distracting. at least with headphones.

Its been like this for a long time, feels like Paradox is fine with it :) //TheRealBoppus

Hmm. I can’t really remember (not by the computer now). But maybe you can hover the enemy division in one of the mapmodes to see the effect

Yeah, it’s absolutely somewhere at the cheese-scale, for me im totally fine with it :) //TheRealBoppus

"Using mechanics exactly as designed is an exploit", apparently.

@@TheMelnTeam coversion is ment to Improve existing airframes or chassis by adding newly researched models and not to have a billion production lines to save resources

@@Spielkind104 Conversion is meant to do what the game and official wiki tells you: change one design to another, at a defined cost premium. Pdox is well aware of it. You will find elsewhere in these comments that he tried to make non-strategic materials work, but changing it out costs too much even with the tech. Same is true for changing some tank modules and ship modules. Calling something that works *exactly as described/defined* an exploit because you didn't think of it/don't like it is nonsense. You can argue whether it's properly balanced. Calling it an exploit implies you don't have a coherent working definition of what that word means.

@@TheMelnTeam only because there aware of it dosent mean that they need to patch it. No one is forced to use exploids, in singleplayer no one cares how much you're cheating and in mp you can instantly tell when someone does it anyways.

@@Spielkind104 I mean they're aware if it in that they clearly & deliberately made some things worth converting and not others. Making ~11% fewer vehicles to expend fewer resources might be an imbalanced tradeoff in your mind, but calling it an exploit while the player is using the mechanic exactly as it says on the tin and getting exactly the purported output values is a head scratcher.

Happy to be of service! //TheRealBoppus

I haven’t actually set it up with three lines before so I learned some new things as well, and its always nice to be able deliver news to you :) //TheRealBoppus

Many thanks, i had two possible spellings to fall back to but failes anyways. Its corrected now :) //TheRealBoppus

@@hyggegaming the 2 Possible spellings are a myth. IUPAC is very clear in all their material.

Oh, then I probably messed up, sorry for that and you where totally right :) //TheRealBoppus

@@hyggegaming definitely wasn’t trying to be right, but bringing it up for further thought. Glad it turned out to be accurate.

I didn’t in any way mean it in a bad way :) //Boppus

Well see how it goes this time, it was really interesting last game to see him go up againt Jaakob! //TheRealBoppus

Yeah, its absolutely in some kind of exploit greyzone, but I wouldn’t say its straight up cheating. There are probably a lot of ways to roleplay this to being just an effective management if your industrial complex:) //TheRealBoppus

We'll see if Paradox considers it as such and fixes it. Maybe they'll just nerf it by reducing the amount of rubber saved but not remove it completely. I do kind of like it, it adds a layer of strategy to production lines where there previously wasn't one. If you want an in-universe explanation, maybe conceptualize it as a boost in the efficient use of resources as a result of proper vertical integration.

@@Fusseliko it's dumb tho, you still should pay the same price in resources

I wouldn't say it's cheating, it's just taking advantage of HOI4 economy where some PTSD from prior versions made Paradox get rid of resources as assets, and put them in as rates. This exploit wouldn't exist if one plane required 10 units of rubber, as opposed to 2 rubber per day. The way HOI4 economy works, resources are essentially fuel for factories rather than stuff weapons are made of, and that opens the door to all kinds of exploits. Another one is building planes from non-strategic materials, and then upgrading them to not use non-strategic materials.

You are paying a cost premium to use fewer resources. You might think the cost increase is insufficient, but that's a matter of balance opinion. Doing this is strictly worse than free market trade-backs commonly used in MP games, unless you can't produce or trade for enough of the resource. AKA, it's situational, because it requires multiple extra techs and a non-ideal situation to become the best option. It is 100% consistent with how the mechanics work as written. If a host were to ban someone for using this in MP using a broad "no exploit" rule without first writing a rule about it specifically, that host is a cheater and should himself be banned.

In MP right now i usually dont, armored recon gives much better buffs to other things so the slight speed bonus of the AC is not worth it. //TheRealBoppus

Nice to see you in the comments Jos and im happy to help, I hope the next game goes smoother :) //TheRealBoppus

He did it for Light Fighters, and explains why he only does it with two steps instead of three. It's halfway through the video.

- Concentrated vs dispersed industry isn't relevant to whether you decide to use this. - It works with tanks, but remember some modules are more expensive to convert or replace than others. Similar to non-strategic materials in planes, swapping to cast armor adds significant extra cost to the point of not being worth. More likely you'd try to economize tungsten/chromium or (in edge cases) steel usage, if those are problems. If you're playing South America without DLC, you really might have a steel shortage, though you also won't have many factories to create a huge shortage. Still, making lots of tanks for 1 steel and then converting them could be worth maybe.

@@TheMelnTeam according to wiki, the conversion speed bonus is more efficent on a higher output % this way concentrated is better if you have a good growth and all the materials. Dispered can be also good if you dont have the materials and a higher base provide better gain if you choose new models. Hygge should test :D I will start and make medium heavy fighter without aluminum and rubber :D Lets see how it will go

Now that I think about it a bit, a clearer way to say what I mean is : instead of having the material cost being the cost per factory assigned, I think it should be the cost per plane produced. I take CIV6 as an example: before some of the DLC, you needed to have 3 iron mines to have 3 units of iron. If you wanted to make 2 knights which would use 2 iron each, you couldn't make them simultaneously because you only had 3. That's pretty much the system we have now : you need a certain number of material for a period of time for each mil you have on the plane. Back to civ : this was reworked in a DLC : now you stock up on ressources, if you have 2 iron mines you get two per turn. If you know you'll want 2 knights in a few turns, (15 iron each) you know you should wait to have 30 iron in reserve before spending some extra. In hoi4 this can't be done, the ressources extracted are just wasted if not used right there and then. One system in Hoi which uses this is fuel : your surplus gets stored and you don't need to have more fuel income daily than usage, you only need to have some in reserve, which does make absolute sense. So why not have this for other ressources ?

You pay resources for the amount of Mils on the line, with 2 lines you need to pay a lot more rubber since you need to pay it for both lines instead of just 2 rubber in the last line //TheRealBoppus

Absolutley, all comments regarding this on the conversion guide and rubber on the figther guide pushed this up the ladder. But this was in mind from start with the figther and convesion guides, just wanted to build the framework first :) //TheRealBoppus

The vast majority of time Aluminum cost can be ignored but I can only imagine how insane this would be for countries like Japan or Romania.

Hey mate! We have one guide like that for Hungary (in patreon) but in terms of prepping for MP. But not in general, no. This might be something we will do more of if there’s a demand for it :) what did you have in mind?

That’s why I think some mods are doing some of the balancing really well :)

Haha! Thanks a lot mate! They actually Have sent us actual medals.. twice 😂🫡

Turns out it actually was 10x damage for NAVs and 5x for fighters. I’m not 100% sure but if I recall they don’t do extra damage on regular air missions

Another thing. I think NAVs flying missions from a carrier always cover the full zone they fly into, even though their range isn’t enough. Test it a little bit, but I’m quite sure it works like that

@@hyggegaming if that's so it's a shame. I think they should probably have range impact sortie efficiency or something. Range should definitely be an important stat on aircraft operating from carriers.

I agree!

Yeah! I agree :) thanks!

Very interesting! That deserves some investigation :)

Water calculator, WTF is going on in this game?? <3 :)

Tackar :)

Thanks as always mate! I really appreciate your comments!!

Haha! Thanks a lot mate! Really ❤️

Yepp! Or you at least be very cautious of where to make needle strikes :)

@@hyggegaming absolutely, when I play as Finland, I wait until the Germans attack to start my push, then I stop by October-November. Consolidate my frontline and start building supply lines for the next push. Sadly, I haven’t been able to take Moscow faster than the Germans this way.

Very reasonable way of playing :)

That makes me really happy to hear! Thanks! :)

​@hyggegaming what mods do you recommend?

Happy to be of service :) //TheRealBoppus

If you play TFB or similar you can train it via the academy.

Oh, I’m not sure tbh

Thanks mate :)

😂😂 poor Poland always gets it in my guides

After staying up way too late, finishing this guide, this was the first thing I read waking up. Thank you so much. It really made my day! ❤️

4:24 i think it went off-screen

I think in broad strokes you can keep an eye on the season, and adapt to that rather than looking at actual tiles :) unless you play a country like Finland, then you should use this constantly to your advantage

Yeah, I completely forgot to post it…