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@@treeskier802 yes the car had a set of lightly used Goodyear Winter command Ultras (an upper-mid range winter tire as far as the winter tire market goes) and it still does pretty well to this day, even in the deeper stuff.

@@Lafue108 when was I "wondering" anything? The 6th gen civic chassis isn't gonna get the back end to come around unless you put a thicker rear sway bar to compensate. My car doesn't have that. It's a nose heavy, FWD platform. I even state possibly wanting to make suspension upgrades in the future because of this, but in reality, when I also own another vehicle that is already more balanced out of the box, it's hard to justify. I'm fine with it as is.

@@kevinandrew_ I'll just note that I never found it to understeer just driving around town unless I was on junk tires. I'm just pointing out that you're complaining about understeer, while on allseasons on a cold day.

@@Lafue108 I haven't watched this video in awhile, but I think what I was trying to say was that you can feel that it *would* understeer if you pushed it really hard. At no point in the video though am I ever driving it hard enough for the tires to be complaining and for that to actually happen, but I do say that you can feel the front weight bias, which is certainly true. People defend this car too much imo and I say that as a happy owner. This isn't a hardcore track toy, nor is it anywhere near as balanced as a true sports car, but people act like I should see it as such and ignore that other vehicles exist. I refuse to judge it that way though, especially given how much money some of these go for now. The EM1 never got the attention to detail that the Type R's got. It's a civic with some impressive engineering, but still a civic on 20+ year old chassis. I love it for its nostalgia and 90's Honda charm, but this car, in the 2020s and beyond, is best as a fun commuter imo, which is why I willingly put all seasons on it (just got a new set) and save the sticky Michelin's for my MX-5.

@@kevinandrew_ Fair enough, Honda definitely leaned towards understeer on this platform out of the box... i suspect as it is generally safer for everyday driving. Although, it never seemed pervasive on decent tires. Not sure anyone ever thought my EM1 was track worthy without modifications though. I mean, K series was an improvement over the B's and that was clear in the 2000's. I still have mine for the OG factor.

@@Lafue108 Agreed and there's been a couple other people who have commented that I'm too harsh on this car, but I think the disconnect is pretty simple. They're coming at it from the perspective of how good it was in it's time period. I'm coming at it from a 2020s perspective of how it compares to other enthusiast cars in this price range, many of which are far newer. Just the simple engineering advancements in material+chassis stiffness has made newer cars have more handling potential and better body control and that's without even talking about HP, TQ, and modifying, or making comparisons to more focused sports cars. I think what I'm trying to communicate to the viewer is that I love this car for its old school character, the nostalgia, reliability/simplicity, and that special Honda magic the brand had going on in the 80s/90s. If you buy the car for those reasons, I have no objections. I just wouldn't want someone seeing the price tag and popularity of this platform thinking they're getting something with game-changing performance.

@@dusterpl6093 You're free to disagree. I clearly still love it given that I've owned it for a very long time, but I'm looking at it through the lens of where we're at now, and how it is in mostly stock form. Most people next to you on the road aren't driving cars this old anymore. Compared to all the modern GTIs, Focus ST/RS's, Honda's own Si and Type-R, etc, this car just can't keep up with the modern players without extensive modifications. You're not racing anyone in this. Yes it is fun, but yourself named a bunch of modifications required to make it better. Even just the chassis stiffness being well behind where we are today with the even more pronounced front bias is enough to feel that it's dated and not as capable. On top of all the engineering advancements, at the end of the day, this is a hopped up commuter car that still has to make concessions to practicality, not a from-the-ground-up sports car. There was some impressive engineering Honda decided to put in it in doing that, but it cannot ever get away from it's underpinnings fully. A car being fun does not = it being a sports car. It's a fun Civic. (Also if you think I'm some horsepower junkie you must have missed that my other car is a Miata lol) Lastly, no one drives an air cooled 911 because it can outperform the newer ones, you have it because it has more character, is more raw, and more visceral of an experience. I would say the same about this car compared to it's newer rivals. Edit: I think this also comes down to variety. If this was your only car you could have a really good time in it, but most people aren't dailying things of this age. If you own something more serious at the same time as this, this will never feel like a sports car

@@kevinandrew_ Yea, that's fair tbh. Thanks for such a detailed response. That horsepower bit was mostly an offtop, it just reminded me of those kind of people saying "everything below XYZ hp is slow". I should've been more specific about that.

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Canadian Si = US EX Canadian SiR = US Si

Are you referring to the 7th gen civics? (2002-2005) Because if so yeah the si in Canada were the same as the USDM civic ex. The SiR is the ep3 which was known as the si in the US.

@@holup7025 Honda Canada went with this naming structure for both the 6th and 7th gen and then went back to making it equivalent for gen 8. I still to this day don't get why Honda decided to do it, just causes confusion.

It's fairly light. Catch point is near the top of the pedal travel which isn't my preference, but other than that, definitely daily driveable.

USDM? yes. If it's a Canadian si, hope you like sohc noises

Yup, making a whole lotta noise to go nowhere 😂. Beating on a car and still being around the speed limit is fun in it's own way though!

Nice! I'm in Winnipeg

theres one going for around $7000 and its in pretty good condition do you think its worth it?

Appreciate the positive words, but these can definitely be polished and a little bit better. Considering I just do these for fun cause I like playing around with editing software though, thanks!

@@mfdoom4358 As long as the underbody isn't rusted to hell and the engine is running strong, yes. These are never gonna be 6 figure collector cars, but they're super reliable and on top of that, values seem to be either holding steady or going up ever so slightly. Even if you don't want it after awhile, take care of it and you won't be losing tons of money on it.

@@kevinandrew_ yea the audio lagged a bit but as a review of the car, you are the only one that explained it in full details

At times, but overall not really. If you care about racing people then I can see it being disappointing, but imo it has enough power to get out of it's own way, and the lightweight playfulness makes up for it. I had a Golf R before this (not the fastest car, but far more hp/tq than Miata), and I have no desire to go back.

Highly recommend going with the 205/55/16 winter tires if you do! Bit of extra height and I didn't experience any rubbing all winter. It's obviously no SUV, but with winter tires and as long as it's not storm/blizzard conditions, it's doable just like any other car.