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Thanks. Yep, his starting point was definitely 🌍 wasn't it.

Fair enough but thanks for checking it out anyway. All any of us can do is take it onboard and fact check it to the best of our abilities. Thanks again 👍

@ I’ll keep my eye on your content man. I’m always trying to figure out the truth the best I can and if I am ever wrong I will always admit to it like a man. Thanks for understanding

Yep. It seems all the basic stuff gets us most of the way there!

You are a prisoner in a prison made by maths. And you celebrate said maths that imprison you and make fun of anyone who escaped your reality. It isn’t real. The heliocentric model is a religion.

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@@Petey194 That's the type of reply that I would expect from a deceiver. We see your BS.

@@IvanMectin You don't need me to deceive you when you do a good job of that yourself. I'm just showing the basic geometry of a rotating globe, tilted on its axis as it orbits a point in space and it explains so much. It explains why we have seasons. It explains why there is a 24 hr sun for months at a time in both the arctic and antarctic. It explains the why Jeran and Witsit will observe the sun at solar noon at around 33.5° elevation and around 13.5° 12hrs later. At no point did I make this about orbital speed which is entirely irrelevant for this demonstration, hence the 🥱. It's like you didn't even try to debunk the presentation. There's no trickery here and I'm very transparent as I included the link where you can use and explore the geometry yourself. I'd say this matches reality very accurately and it's not complex at all. Put it together with my last video about length of day, direction of sunrise/sunset etc, for different places around the world and I'd say this model stands up to scrutiny extremely well. If you have a better model then I'd like to see it.

@@Petey194 No, mate. You're showing the earth's 67, 000 mph orbit of the sun while showing an inaccurate title. Seasons are irrelevant over 24 hrs, The sun is FIXED over a 24 hr period You DID make it about the 67,000 mph orbital speed! What's to "debunk" apart from the fact that you're not showing what your title claims? That IS the "DEBUNK I did not claim "trickery" I said deception. The sun is FIXED over a 24 hr period. You did not make that clear. You showed the earth's full year (67,000 mph) orbit of the sun. If you were genuine. If! You would have shown that the sun does NOT circle the earth over a 24 hr period. It's a small merry go round motion of the earth as it rotates at 1000 mph. An illusion! That's what your graphics should have shown. You are trying to give the impression that the sun orbits like the FE model. It does NOT! THAT's the deception!

@@IvanMectin Genuinely sorry but you're making no sense to me 😒and I'm really trying to understand. I have the sun fixed for the whole YEAR, not just 24hrs. It's there in the middle and it doesn't move. The thing I think you're not getting is the 23.5 degree tilt remaining the same direction throughout the yearly orbit. It's this tilt that explains the seasons, why the tropics and the polar circles are where they are. The other thing I think you're not getting is I have the earth rotating ALL THE TIME throughout the whole year. You see the meridian lines rotating don't you? Well that is how I depicted the earth's rotation. The earth is continuously rotating to face the sun. At any one time half of the earth will be illuminated and the other half will be in darkness. During march and september equinoxes, all places on earth including the polar regions will experience roughly 12hrs of a day and 12hrs of night. And during the June and December solstices, one of the polar regions in its entirety will experience a 24hr sun while the other will be in complete darkness. Where you get this notion of me trying make it look like FE model? That's outrageous. FE is bonkers and nothing about it matches reality. If you want me to respond to you again then you're going to have to be a lot more precise in your wording. I honestly don't understand the points you're making. And again, I don't care about the how big the orbit is or how fast the earth is travelling or how far away the sun is. It is irrelevant. Why is it irrelevant? Well I could make the sun 150 million km away and the earth of radius 6371km would still have one side lit as it turns, meanwhile the tropics, the polar circles and the subsolar point won't change. Neither will the Union Glacier solar noon sun altitude angle of 33.5 degrees or the midnight sun of 13.5 degrees 12hrs later.

Union Glacier. "The-Final-Experiment" ⬅ Google

hehe, thanks, 😋

@@Petey194 Are you going to be covering "The Final Experiment"? It's in December when they will prove the Earth to be spherical with a bunch of these Flerf goons present :) I am looking forward to it.

@@DailyCorvid Well I've sort of done 3 videos that touch on it already. The first one was explaining the 24 hour sun in Antarctica. I made that back in June. The pinned comment of that video takes you to a youtube short for the flat earth side of things. My last video was in September and that explained the length of day based on latitude and time of year. I might do something depending on what the FE'ers come up with. I'm really looking forward to all the excuses 😝

It's 1 revolution per day. Spin your roundabout so it completes one revolution in 24 hours. You'll have to really look closely to even see it move. 1 revolution per day is 0.00069 rpm. So fast!

What a ridiculous comparison, like always from pseudoscience FEs.

Hey Steve, what did you think of today with everyone landing in Antarctica? The model is looking pretty good right now! The Sun got down to about 13° at solar midnight, as predicted! But don't feel bad. Celebrate being wrong so you can move forward!!

Hiya 😀. Yeah, I haven't opened up GeoGebra since the last video and wasn't intending to do anything else this year if I'm being honest. FE can be really depressing sometimes and I find listening to those people spout nonsense has a negative effect on me. It's good to get away from it sometimes. Really looking forward to Will Duffy's TFE though so that's a positive that might yield something if Fe'ers are willing to make some claims. But don't you think they've gone a little quiet lately. I do. That's probably down to TFE and they're no doubt waiting for the results. Anything that shuts them up has to be a good thing 😊. What's your idea?

@@Petey194 I'm going to totally agree with you about the depressing part. So please don't allow me to drag you back into this if you are free of it all. But if you want to take a look, I would like to hear your opinion anyway tinyurl.com/4w2c3jfj I have used Tinyurl because You tube can block comments with links. To cut a long story short I live 90 miles from Skegness, and I have some camera equipment, I was looking to recreate the original video to either prove/disprove the windfarm or globe. I have another person interested in this, as a technical adviser, but he is in Austrailia. If you want to check out his channel it is Andrew Johnston or Edurado Igrisu. I will be shocked if you haven't seen him around or if he hasn't commented on your work before. If you can just take a look at the link and tell if you think there is any value in mapping it out in 3D, would be good enough. If you wanted to join in fully you are more than welcome :)

@@Hold_My_Pocket Ah, I just seen this! I was checking back for about a week after my reply and couldn't see anything so hope you don't think I ignored you on purpose. You know, I did actually try mapping this out at the time. I went to all the wind farm maps Andrew and Wally used, put the coordinates etc into excel and I did put something together in geogebra but I couldn't see a way to make it visually appealing due to its scale and 3d camera limitations etc. I had the project files on my desktop for a good couple of months too so I didn't give up on the idea straight away but eventually deleted it when decluttering. Yeah, I've been a fan of AJ since he did that survey presentation on Flatzoid's channel. He's very knowledgable. It was from that survey presentation that gave me a better understanding of spherical excess which led to me making the video, _"Measuring Spherical Excess: FE Tests & Jeranism"_ I was pleasantly surprised he used this video to do his livestream predictions the other day. If I learn any techniques that will help with this I'll be sure to let you know.

Which part in particular is wrong?

Actually, that never occurred to me 🤣🤣

haha, 😋

I figured it out. Gonna get me a Flobel Prize. See, the sun disappears at night because everybody closes their eyes when they go to sleep. How ya gonna see the sun with yer eyes closed? Ya can't.

The Flobel Prize is something that I really need to see now. We need categories, rules, judging definitions, … and what of the prizes????

Thanks Chris. Good of you to say! 😊

...they would need Walter Bislin's help. You can bet shane st. plagiarizer would be ready to steal it.

I see this one! Thanks Cargy. This one was actually quite challenging for me for a while. I also have some self-criticism about the presentation in general. But best not be too hard on myself. It's a decent step in the right direction and a stepping stone to something else.

“Nuh uh.” -some flat earther Consistently getting the correct answer doesn’t mean you’re right. You can only be right if it allows for fe. If everything that allows for fe model consistently fail, then it must be some massive conspiracy…because it has to be flat.

The body was entombed near sunset the evening of the Crucifixion without proper preparation. Next day was the Sabbath so nothing could be done that day. Early the following morning the Women who were to properly prepare the body found the tomb open and the body missing.

Simple... a majority of Christians don't think the earth is flat.. case closed. As for the rest of your post..Faith is for some hard to grasp..I does require.. Faith. FYI..as a Christian no offense taken. You just asked what is on your mind. Oh I routinely point out to Cristian FEs that God's very creations sun moon & starts contradict a flat earth & science relies on taken observations of those very same creations to validate science's ideas.

I feel already a bit like abusing the comment thread and therefore am reluctant to expand it too much. But I also feel misunderstood and to owe an apology, or rather an explanation, to all the good people in the world, whatever religion they have ... given they don't use their belief to claim superiority for themselves, which in turn gives them the right to carry out violent acts against "non believers". My point was 100% not about whether Christians - in their vast majority - belief the earth is flat. NOT AT ALL. OK, then what was the point I wanted to make. It was rather that no matter what evidence you present to flat Earthers (or pointing out the improbability of the deep-going conspiracy necessary to 'hide the true shape of the Earth") they will not be convinced. They tell that every day and in that point they are exactly the same as someone who takes up a religious believe (eg. based on a claim of "personal revelation") and because of that tells you blankly no argument ever will convince him or her otherwise. So just don't try. Take that "Final Experiment". Already now theories are flying around to "protect" the belief in a flat Earth even if the sun should be visible.circling close to the horizon 360° around a person, visible for 24 hours without interruption. It is quite obvious they won't accept ANY other much more rational explanation, requiring from them to give up that believe: THEY THEMSELVES are the ones having the superior knowledge and once everybody accepts the truth hidden so desperately by the powers that be, once that is unveiled, the world will be a much better place. So my main point is more or less I expect some day a hard core group of them will take the last resort _"I JUST KNOW it's flat, no matter whatever you show me to convince me that it isn't."_ You can replace the ressuraction I took as an example with any other wondrous storiy of some "holy book" used to indoctrinate children, hammering into their brains "everything written there is the truth, the only truth, nothing but the truth" and they will defend these stories with the last resort _"yes, I know, it sounds unbelievable all that has happened that way, but then just take it as a miracle by which a 'higher power' shows it's superiority."_ As I said, I don't want to offend Christians, not in the least. But if today, at a crime scene a corpse would first be brought away early (potentially bribing the guards) and 36 hours later has completely vanished, but then comes back alive again, a very probable explanation would be "maybe that corpse had been not the person it has been believed or said to be in the first place" espacially if decades go by during which the events were only reported by the word of mouth. Again, I really don't want to offend Christians by writing that, but from the same perspective we also shouldn't tell flat Earthers they believe in a fiction. If they want so, they should do it. We have no more or lesser right to hurt their feelings than an atheist has to tell a Christian or Muslim or whatever they believe in a fiction. That brings me back to the beginning: there are places on Earth were (claimed) "religions of peace" are commonplace but where you risk to be lynched by a mob if you bring up thoughts like that in public, which makes me quote E,.O. Wilson: _We humans have paleolythical emotions, medival institutions, and god-like technology, and that has become horribly dangerous for the future of all mankind."_ (rephrasing the end a bit, which I don't remember word by word).

Why you’d lump flat earth with historical Christianity is beyond me: the bible doesn’t say the earth is flat despite any desperate attempts to make it do so. The resurrection has plenty evidence and testimony to support it, plus you just have to ask why people were prepared to die rather than deny it, and did so in horrifying numbers.

@@Hirsutechin first if all: Thanks for taking the time to respond, I appreciate that. This is not the platform to discuss the ressuraction in depth but I'd be glad to meet you elsewhere if you want to defend the "plenty of evidence for the resurrection". In my judgement there is little to none. Eg. some other "holy books" on which widespread religious believes of other religions are based, most prominently Islam and Mormonism, do not say Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected. And wrt. the gospels in the Bible you probably know they were written between years 60 and 80 or 90 and may have assumed the form in which they became part of the NT even later, with additions made up to 100 years after the event they report. Furthermore the author's names were assigned arbitrarily at a point and do not refer to apostles with the same name. Last not least, If you primarily take the Bible as evidence for the resurrection, you have also to defend why you believe ONE holy book but not eg. the Book of Mormons and the Quran. Shouldn't any source claiming to be God's word or written by people inspired by a superior being given the same weight to prove the validity of the stories told?

But I bet it took you 2 minutes 🤣 My waste paper bin was full before I figured out how to get the angle I wanted. 😋

@@Petey194 It was quite some time ago, so I can't really tell you how long it took me, but it definitely wasn't 2 minutes 😅 Getting this right isn't that straightforward!

In conspiracy land, independently arriving at the same result is signs of a conspiracy. Instead we should feel proud when nobody understands what’s going on and there’s a million, inept competing (how they’re competing when none achieve anything is unknown) guesses. That’s the real sign that it’s not a conspiracy and we’re on our way to truth. Not getting the correct answer, but having a bunch of non answers. Seems legit.

I expect some may have something to say about it though …

You may have gotten the correct answers but I’m gonna say you’re categorically wrong because I believe it’s really some other geometry that works in incomprehensible ways to reproduce precisely what the globe geometry did. But how does it do any of that, and do I even have a map to illustrate what’s happening, hell no. In fact, none of us can agree on anything beyond globe wrong, it has to be flat. Flatties summed up.

Won't, or can't?

@@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 Both...

That was great. Regarding a different post when I said I’m keen to have a go with Geogebra, I think I’ll start with something waaaaaaaay simpler.

Thanks and appreciate you saying this. 😊 It's free which is great. That's my price range! You're can be the first to know that I have a new video coming out this weekend about estimating day length because it's a globe! I'll post the thumbnail on my community page in a bit. 😲

@@Petey194 I'll try to get the live release, but my shifts can be a nightmare!

I'm reminded of this ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx9K2ek7wk9pKUBzvrUhNjBwr1zV0aa5DP 😂