I enjoy how you try to show the topics you are discussing rather than just using math so people who have trouble visualizing how something might work can actually see it for themselves. It is a bonus that you then give a link so that people can also do the movements themselves and try to get an intuitive understanding of how the topics relate. Too bad flat earthers aren't willing to put in the effort to actually learn.
@@Isolder74 While that's certainly true, nobody can beat the ignorance of another person, only the person himself. However showing the actual concepts visually how and why the angle between the two great circle arcs are indeed 90°, it becomes quite hard to stay that ignorant. They either come up with even crazier ad hoc explanations or just deny it. This hopefully will help others which may not be as ignorant to not fall for the FE nonsense. Many tiny bits of evidence pile up. And most importantly, all the bits of evidence support the same theory and not a gazillion ad hoc explanations that contradict each other.
I worked with a guy who told me once or twice a month "You can't do that," quite often even as he was watching me do it. I can only figure he must have meant that he couldn't do it.
Another nice explanation Petey. And just so someone like Nathan doesn't start ranting about 'curved adjacent', it was great that you pointed out the measurement was between the intersecting planes.
They don't care. It is all about having something to let them ignore the truth they don't like, nothing more. NO has to know it means nothing but he has his word play and he thinks it looks good enough to fool the gullible who don't check his claims.
Hi all. I know that I do not have to say this but please appreciate that Brian is not representative in any way of the Irish people in general or the Irish education system in particular (especially as has he has freely admitted that he did not interact with it very much). Irish students score reasonably highly in maths and science on standard international tests such as PISA. and the Irish education system is generally highly regarded internationally. In the new Junior Certificate (lower high school in US) the science syllabus now contains a large element of astronomy and earth science. Students learn about the Solar System, the Big Bang, Solar and Lunar eclipses, the seasons, space exploration and satellite motion. It is always a topic that gathers great attention and interest. Brian, of course, missed out on all this and thus seems to be baffled by anything that involved 3 dimensions. Take care.
Brian, to me at least, comes across as a good guy and quite a character. I think half the time he puts his videos out, he's asking his "opposition", to reply with alternative explanations. That's got to be a good thing. It keeps the conversation going at least. He's certainly not getting the full picture from the cowardly Mr NO who -can't- won't put out any content trying explain reality. 🇮🇪 ❤
Too bad he can’t be honest even with himself. He clings onto the idea that math is nothing more that a parlor trick with numbers. Until he can admit to himself he’s wrong nothing can help him. Part of the problem is that NO encourages him to not want to learn as he likes being treated like an expert.
@@Petey194 Hi Petey, hope that you are well. I would agree with you up to a point. Brian does not block or delete comments on his channel (even though the vast majority expose his lack of understanding and some even ridicule him) which is to his credit. However he seems to be immune and immutable to basic logic, reason and evidence up to the point of total denial. In my experience, such total denial of reality is not a good thing for an individual to engage in. Yes he does ask for "alternative explanations" but we all know that he is never going to listen to any. He is trapped in a delusion and I do not think that he is in a healthy place unfortunately. Take care.
@@TheWokeFlatEarthTruth He’s trapped because he feels good having NO and the rest of his panel call him an expert. He can feel important and not have to do any work to do it.
@@TheWokeFlatEarthTruth yet he is gauging whether he should go behind a paywall. Because the of all the ‘liars’ correcting him. He wants his ignorance to be paid for by the gullible it would seem.
And it’s clear they want stay that way. They have the correct information right in front of them and they ignore it. It’s only mathematical, AKA math is magic so I’ll just ignore it.
Nice job as always. & that sure af makes it quite clear IMO. It's hard to say what exactly is wrong with poor Brian but he just doesn't seem to ever notice that he is shown to be completely wrong like every single time he opens that hole in his face. Same goes for Flatz. If I was forced to bet, I'd say Brian is a true believer. Whereas Failzoid has been outright busted intentionally lying. Oakley seems to really have him convinced that he is their resident very very expert.
Thanks real. Appreciate it. I think Brian has more courage in his little finger than Oakley has in total. I just hope BL takes onboard some views that counter his current position. Yeah, Flatz is full-time denialist. He lives the lie and is in it for the grift imo. There's no way one person can deny that much science. 😆
@@Petey194 Brian’s problem is that he likes being held up as some kind of expert so he’s not going to learn. Even better he can play an expert and the only work he has to do is talk a lot.
Brian doesn't want to understand it. All he wants is any excuse he can find to ignore it. It's clear by now that he assumes any math is a parlor trick to hide his 'truth' so he can just ignore it. He just hides that with a pile of words hoping no one will notice.
oh its painful watching people that really have no idea what they are talking about yet do so with such confidence. look at a globe or imagine you are walking along the earth, go to the equator and walk dead west after a few thousand miles (1/4 way around to be exact) turn and walk dead north to the north pole, spin 90 deg, then walk dead south until you get to equator again, you just trace out a triangle on a globe with 3 - 90 deg corners
Hi Petey. Do you know if it is possible to create a surface from a spherical triangle so that you can colour that portion of the sphere? I found someone creating a custom tool that nearly did this, but it didn't work properly.
I'm not sure Jim. I suppose a custom surface could be made but that would be complicated and far beyond anything I could do currently. There are help forums and a forum on reddit. Maybe you could ask in one of those. If you do find out how, let me know ;-)
@@Petey194 @Petey194 I found the answer On Geogebra the code is hevgukmy. You Tube doesn't;t want me to post the URL. It's in Spanish, but I eventually figured it out. The trick is to create a parameterised surface and pass it an expression for a curve that generates spherical coordinates. the arg and alt are required for the curve used by the Surface.
@@Petey194 I replied last night but UA-cam keeps deleting it. Yes, I did find a solution. You create a parametric surface and for the expression you create a curve where the bounding parameters are supplied defined as spherical coordinates. I'm going to leave this comment as is and see if I can post some reference to the relevant link that YOuTube does not delete.
This is similar to some arguments where someone states a definition of a word has only the one meaning/context. So by using that they try to determine that whatever point you’re making is wrong. Words like theory or image are common examples it’s anti science or flat earth arguments. Here it’s a case that he’s arguing a triangle can only exist on a two dimensional plane. Spherical geometry is make believe and doesn’t exist.
The key is Surface( ( 1.02 T ; arg ( st A + (1 - s) t B + (1 - t) C ) ; alt ( st A + (1 - s) t B + (1 - t) C ) ) , s , 0, 1, t, 0, 1) the first argument to the surface: ( 1.02 T ; arg ( st A + (1 - s) t B + (1 - t) C ) ; alt ( st A + (1 - s) t B + (1 - t) C ) ) is. a Curve, if you input it on its own you'll see it defines a curve. using spherical/polar coordinates. The arg and alt identifiers are required for the function.
@@LukeFilewalker Seems more like a merry-go-round as it always starts and stops in the same place. Edit: and the calliope has a stuck key and only plays one note.
That’s funny as I didn’t say that spherical triangles don’t sum to more than 180, I said that they DONT EXIST BECAUSE THEY DONT ???? What I showed from the centre point is how these things are formed, you thought that you some how debunked it because you didn’t listen to what I said, plus the diagram was not even mine SMH…. Spherical Excess I had to teach all you guys about that lol…. ua-cam.com/video/oYk3D5x0wk8/v-deo.htmlsi=TG213nlXwIelPzR8
@@BriansLogic No, you don't. It's the Dunning-Krueger effect. You think you know, you don't. A sunset alone proves you wrong and I disintegrated one of your videos, After that you Simply ran away. So much for your precious Logic.
You say they don't exist but then you say what you show is how they are formed. There's no better debunker of your material than yourself. Keep up the good work.
I enjoy how you try to show the topics you are discussing rather than just using math so people who have trouble visualizing how something might work can actually see it for themselves. It is a bonus that you then give a link so that people can also do the movements themselves and try to get an intuitive understanding of how the topics relate.
Too bad flat earthers aren't willing to put in the effort to actually learn.
Thank you Tsudico for this kind comment.
You can't teach someone who doesn't want to learn.
@@Isolder74 While that's certainly true, nobody can beat the ignorance of another person, only the person himself. However showing the actual concepts visually how and why the angle between the two great circle arcs are indeed 90°, it becomes quite hard to stay that ignorant. They either come up with even crazier ad hoc explanations or just deny it. This hopefully will help others which may not be as ignorant to not fall for the FE nonsense. Many tiny bits of evidence pile up. And most importantly, all the bits of evidence support the same theory and not a gazillion ad hoc explanations that contradict each other.
I worked with a guy who told me once or twice a month "You can't do that," quite often even as he was watching me do it. I can only figure he must have meant that he couldn't do it.
Another nice explanation Petey. And just so someone like Nathan doesn't start ranting about 'curved adjacent', it was great that you pointed out the measurement was between the intersecting planes.
Thanks Mike 😋
They don't care. It is all about having something to let them ignore the truth they don't like, nothing more. NO has to know it means nothing but he has his word play and he thinks it looks good enough to fool the gullible who don't check his claims.
Hi all. I know that I do not have to say this but please appreciate that Brian is not representative in any way of the Irish people in general or the Irish education system in particular (especially as has he has freely admitted that he did not interact with it very much). Irish students score reasonably highly in maths and science on standard international tests such as PISA. and the Irish education system is generally highly regarded internationally. In the new Junior Certificate (lower high school in US) the science syllabus now contains a large element of astronomy and earth science. Students learn about the Solar System, the Big Bang, Solar and Lunar eclipses, the seasons, space exploration and satellite motion. It is always a topic that gathers great attention and interest. Brian, of course, missed out on all this and thus seems to be baffled by anything that involved 3 dimensions. Take care.
Brian, to me at least, comes across as a good guy and quite a character. I think half the time he puts his videos out, he's asking his "opposition", to reply with alternative explanations. That's got to be a good thing. It keeps the conversation going at least. He's certainly not getting the full picture from the cowardly Mr NO who -can't- won't put out any content trying explain reality. 🇮🇪 ❤
Too bad he can’t be honest even with himself. He clings onto the idea that math is nothing more that a parlor trick with numbers. Until he can admit to himself he’s wrong nothing can help him. Part of the problem is that NO encourages him to not want to learn as he likes being treated like an expert.
@@Petey194 Hi Petey, hope that you are well. I would agree with you up to a point. Brian does not block or delete comments on his channel (even though the vast majority expose his lack of understanding and some even ridicule him) which is to his credit. However he seems to be immune and immutable to basic logic, reason and evidence up to the point of total denial. In my experience, such total denial of reality is not a good thing for an individual to engage in. Yes he does ask for "alternative explanations" but we all know that he is never going to listen to any. He is trapped in a delusion and I do not think that he is in a healthy place unfortunately. Take care.
@@TheWokeFlatEarthTruth He’s trapped because he feels good having NO and the rest of his panel call him an expert. He can feel important and not have to do any work to do it.
@@TheWokeFlatEarthTruth yet he is gauging whether he should go behind a paywall. Because the of all the ‘liars’ correcting him. He wants his ignorance to be paid for by the gullible it would seem.
As Brian might say: These triangles don’t have straight loins! They have tenderloins!
"The Stupid is strong in this one!" - re-formulated to match Brian's (Il)Logic
Nice video. Flerfs love to demonstrate they are mathematically illiterate.
Thanks MC. ☺
And it’s clear they want stay that way. They have the correct information right in front of them and they ignore it.
It’s only mathematical, AKA math is magic so I’ll just ignore it.
Nice job as always. & that sure af makes it quite clear IMO. It's hard to say what exactly is wrong with poor Brian but he just doesn't seem to ever notice that he is shown to be completely wrong like every single time he opens that hole in his face. Same goes for Flatz. If I was forced to bet, I'd say Brian is a true believer. Whereas Failzoid has been outright busted intentionally lying. Oakley seems to really have him convinced that he is their resident very very expert.
All he cares about is playing word games so he can have an excuse to deny information he doesn't like.
Thanks real. Appreciate it. I think Brian has more courage in his little finger than Oakley has in total. I just hope BL takes onboard some views that counter his current position. Yeah, Flatz is full-time denialist. He lives the lie and is in it for the grift imo. There's no way one person can deny that much science. 😆
@@Petey194 Indeed. You've been killing it via short & clear examples without even harshly mocking them, & it seems to be a great approach IMO. 👍
@@Petey194 Brian’s problem is that he likes being held up as some kind of expert so he’s not going to learn. Even better he can play an expert and the only work he has to do is talk a lot.
Very good demonstration of spherical excess.
But Brian will not understand it anyway
Thanks Stefan. I'm sure they'll have a little fun at my expense denying it all. 😆 But I do honestly get a kick out of that 🤣🤣
@@Petey194 Their attempt to deny It is going to be hilarious.
Can`r wait
Brian doesn't want to understand it. All he wants is any excuse he can find to ignore it. It's clear by now that he assumes any math is a parlor trick to hide his 'truth' so he can just ignore it.
He just hides that with a pile of words hoping no one will notice.
He’s just going to read that cherry-picked definition of an angle NO spoon feed him and ignore it.
Yep, he's convinced that any math is a parlor trick. That's kind of pathetic and QE has taught him well in the game of playing word games.
Agree with that Isolder74. I did include the sine rule to help me check for mistakes in the construction but that was it really.
@@Petey194 Notice he keeps talking about chords while clearly having no clue what one is. Seems to be his favorite math ‘trick.’
@@Isolder74 "he keeps talking about chords..."
And clearly his banjo ain't even in tune...
Brian have his own kind of logic that defy normal logic.
Yeah that first dude was completely nuts.
Oops. Another one in the “L” column for Brian.
He always has the same argument, it’s all mathematical, nothing more. Math isn’t real so I can ignore it.
Flerfs can't think in 3D your visualizations give them a chance. But, you can lead a horse to water...
What boggles my mind is that they say you cant have a straight line on a curve, or a ball.
Ok please, WHA-????
oh its painful watching people that really have no idea what they are talking about yet do so with such confidence. look at a globe or imagine you are walking along the earth, go to the equator and walk dead west after a few thousand miles (1/4 way around to be exact) turn and walk dead north to the north pole, spin 90 deg, then walk dead south until you get to equator again, you just trace out a triangle on a globe with 3 - 90 deg corners
Lol yea they really don't get spherical geometry at all do they.
At least they have a go at it which is a good thing, unless they're being deliberately dishonest with it. 🤔
Hi Petey. Do you know if it is possible to create a surface from a spherical triangle so that you can colour that portion of the sphere? I found someone creating a custom tool that nearly did this, but it didn't work properly.
I'm not sure Jim. I suppose a custom surface could be made but that would be complicated and far beyond anything I could do currently. There are help forums and a forum on reddit. Maybe you could ask in one of those. If you do find out how, let me know ;-)
@@Petey194 @Petey194
I found the answer
On Geogebra the code is hevgukmy. You Tube doesn't;t want me to post the URL.
It's in Spanish, but I eventually figured it out.
The trick is to create a parameterised surface and pass it an expression for a curve that generates spherical coordinates. the arg and alt are required for the curve used by the Surface.
@@Petey194 I replied last night but UA-cam keeps deleting it. Yes, I did find a solution. You create a parametric surface and for the expression you create a curve where the bounding parameters are supplied defined as spherical coordinates. I'm going to leave this comment as is and see if I can post some reference to the relevant link that YOuTube does not delete.
@@Petey194 On Geogebra put in the main URL and then m/hevgukmy - it must have the m/
@@JimACornelius Cool, thanks. I've just made it so you can post links. Hope it works!
This is similar to some arguments where someone states a definition of a word has only the one meaning/context. So by using that they try to determine that whatever point you’re making is wrong. Words like theory or image are common examples it’s anti science or flat earth arguments.
Here it’s a case that he’s arguing a triangle can only exist on a two dimensional plane. Spherical geometry is make believe and doesn’t exist.
Did they notice that it's worse on a Gleason projection map?
That implies they’ve even tried. He’s part of the NO crew whom refuse to commit to any model.
Did Brian's Logic disprove Gauss's theorema egregium?
Does he even understand the proof of it?
Thanks for the math your good at it. Thanks
Ask Brian logic about scotch mist 😭😂😂😂 he did respond
Hi Petey. Every time I post something UA-cam deletes it. I'm going to try to tell you how to Google for it.
Polígonos esféricos geogebra
The key is Surface( ( 1.02 T ; arg ( st A + (1 - s) t B + (1 - t) C ) ; alt ( st A + (1 - s) t B + (1 - t) C ) ) , s , 0, 1, t, 0, 1) the first argument to the surface: ( 1.02 T ; arg ( st A + (1 - s) t B + (1 - t) C ) ; alt ( st A + (1 - s) t B + (1 - t) C ) ) is. a Curve, if you input it on its own you'll see it defines a curve. using spherical/polar coordinates. The arg and alt identifiers are required for the function.
i think you lost brian by "unit sphere" XD
He can’t get past the unit circle.
@@Isolder74 I guess he can't get past curved lines in the first place xd
@@LukeFilewalker he does have quite the character arc.
@@Isolder74 I honestly can't await the next plot twist in this roller-coaster xd
@@LukeFilewalker Seems more like a merry-go-round as it always starts and stops in the same place.
Edit: and the calliope has a stuck key and only plays one note.
Huh?
That’s funny as I didn’t say that spherical triangles don’t sum to more than 180, I said that they DONT EXIST BECAUSE THEY DONT ????
What I showed from the centre point is how these things are formed, you thought that you some how debunked it because you didn’t listen to what I said, plus the diagram was not even mine SMH….
Spherical Excess I had to teach all you guys about that lol….
ua-cam.com/video/oYk3D5x0wk8/v-deo.htmlsi=TG213nlXwIelPzR8
You? Teach? Exilarating.
@@AlexFoxthrot That’s correct I teach you guys about your own paradigm ?
@@BriansLogic No, you don't. It's the Dunning-Krueger effect. You think you know, you don't. A sunset alone proves you wrong and I disintegrated one of your videos, After that you Simply ran away. So much for your precious Logic.
You say they don't exist but then you say what you show is how they are formed. There's no better debunker of your material than yourself. Keep up the good work.
@@Petey194 In Reality Petey not in diagram form, and they’re Not triangles you have zero understanding of this obviously ?