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I agree.

Totally agree re Toyota, Colin. See my other video on 'Toyota can kiss my ass'. I have a GWM Ora and it's a great car. You can easily go long distances with an EV... many have travelled all around Australia (inc towing a caravan). Join some of the EV groups on FB (inc the EV Towing one). Will be much cheaper and nicer to drive than your Diesel (especially with the Model Y being so cheap now).

@@stormjuice I took your advice and did not go through with the purchase of a Mitsubishi Outlander Plug In. Purchased a Kia Sportage instead, it has a full size spare tyre which is a requirement for country driving. I can recommend the Kia Sportage as it such a great car. I would leave the driving an EV around the country especially towing to others as life is too short and regularly recharging the EV would be a form of torture. My current view on EVs is it great to have one, but I would always have the second car as a diesel. This keeps your options for travel open. I try to avoid charging our EV at the public charging stations as They use fossil fuels to operate. That is why I have a very large solar system on my roof.

I try my best. What should I cover next?

Not totally sure what you mean to be honest. Here's the manual though: gwmora.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Ora-Funky-Cat-owners-manual.pdf

I found this, which may be helpful (it's a setting you can change): Creep function Turns the creep function on or off. When this function is on the vehicle has been started (the light is illu- minated), switch into Drive gear and release the hand brake and the brake pedal. The vehicle will slowly crawl for- ward without needing pressure on the accelerator pedal.

hahahaha! If only I could put a hand-sign 'ROCK' emoji on this comment.

hahahaha, you wish :) I wear my Mankini backwards.

It would be nice, but it's not terrible. They saved money by not including it, and can sell it cheaper here than in the UK.

@@stormjuice ya I agree but when all the controls are in the display - voice control helps with not having to navigate through the menu.

It's definitely useful at times..... in the Tesla it's brilliant.

It's very comfy in a Tesla, thanks to the 'Camp Mode', mattress and blackout things. The base wasn't necessary for me, but my partner sleeps much better with it.

@stormjuice I saw a brilliant bed design for Tesla on a NZ site. It slides into full bed, but still fits in boot when seats are up. I would remove rear seats and build my own. Like in my present ICE 4WD.

Tonnes of different options out there, for sure.

It's a bit more squishy in the 3, thanks to that damn rear bar, and the seats don't go down as flat as they do in the Y, but give it a go and maybe do a video or article for the rest of us

Cheers! It just went down to $34k yesterday (I bought it for $40k). The more ppl get into EV's, the merrier.

My video isn't an ad, that's for sure. I'm brutally honest.

@@stormjuice Sure. But did you see the new ad.? Its not your video.

aaah, no I haven't seen it. link?

To be fair, they are all really easy to drive, but yeah, the Ora is great to drive (not as great as the MG4, but it's nowhere near as well featured or value for money).

Cheers! Hope it helps. I'll need to do an updated one, as the prices are much cheaper now. You can get a 30kWh Leaf for around $12k now, and a 40kWh for around $17k. When I bought mine it was $20k (30Kwh). I did sell it a year and a half later for $20k though, so all good (dealers were selling the same car for $30k).

Thanks! Means a lot to me. I don't publish too often (too busy working, or life, or just lazy.... mixture of all 3 I think :) ), so I'm glad some ppl get something out of my research and thoughts. And Toyota are STILL claiming they will be doing amazing X things in EV's within X years.... like clockwork. At least they've eventually realised that hydrogen in cars is a joke... so they are transitioning hydrogen to trucks instead (which makes more sense to me, as long as they are the HUGE trucks, not the medium or small ones). Anything you'd like me to do a video on next? How's the Dacia software btw (as it's also VW)?

The services may be 2 years apart, but wow, the price in year 4 is crazy! Possibly the most expensive EV to service (?). $299 in year 2, then $906 in year 4? Then repeat. Vs $0 per year for a Tesla, $99 per year for GWM Ora. There's bugger all to do for an EV. And if you say they have to change the fluid for X every 4 years.... they obviously have shit fluid or engineering. I think I'm pretty fair... I list all the good points (of which there are many), and also the bad points (just a few), but I couldn't actually go through and buy an MG4, no matter how great it is to drive (apart from the dodgy Cruise Control, but like I said... I might have been unlucky), and how many great reviews it's gotten elsewhere.... the lack of features in the base model (which come standard in the Dolphin and Ora), underpowered infotainment (with fuzzy touch sensitivity), plus the kerrazy ongoing costs (services).... it was a NO from me. I bought a GWM Ora instead, because for $40k it has all the safety features, better materials, seemed better build quality, responsive infotainment (Snapdragon processor.... and infotainment speed is a big deal to me.... can totally change the joy of owning an EV) and the total cost of ownership is WAY less.

Btw I liked your post, because I appreciate your opinion, even if I don't agree with it. You are correct, though, that if I had been able to test the car for more than a day, I could have discovered even more (good and bad). And no, I don't know why the service costs are so expensive in year 4.... I will ask. Don't forget, that apart from those few things (which some people may not care about as much as I do), I did really like the MG4... it's a brilliant car for the price (well, they could have included all the safety features, instead of making people by the premium version just to get them), and the look of joy I had at the amazing turning circle (thanks to being RWD) and the brilliant one-pedal-driving (WOW, only Tesla's is as good).....

@@stormjuice It may be that the cost seems excessive but the central issue is how do you know. When it comes to servicing I would rather it was thorough than skimpy. I would love to know what it is they have included at the 4 year service. Is it brake servicing, coolants, parts, control units? I have no issue with the claim - I would just like to challenge you to justify it beyond what others do. From my point of view the 6 year costs for servicing the MG is less than I was paying per year for my aging ICE. Understanding what EV systems are and exactly how they work is so often overlooked and on one seems to be basing their analysis on specific qualifications or insights. How does traction control on the MG 4 work? Who builds the motor and drive system? It looks like a Borg Warner unit. How exactly does the electronic differential actually function?

I don't think it's necessary to go into all the minute details of the construction (although I do find it interesting) and what exactly is included in a service, for a general thoughts and review video. You can't compare ICE service costs to EV.... EV should be MUCH cheaper. Tesla is $0. Ora is $99. Same basic components. Anything more than $99 per service on an EV is gouging, imho.

@@stormjuice Utterly insignificant compared to the service costs of a VW diesel over a similar time period. I will certainly ask for a detailed breakdown of the reasons for the charges for me it’s not something that is worth worrying about.

Yeeeeep! If you are around Bedford you'll see my Ora on the road (it has the Stuttgart Stripes, as the Ora was designed by Emanoel Derta (ex Porsche), who got inspiration from the Porsche 911, which is made in Stuttgart (each cities factory has it's own stripe design).

Are you talking about Darwin Awards being handed out? :) The update is a minor 'just in case some idiots manage to do it somehow'. For DC charging apparently. Took 20 min to update. I've never had a problem though (I'm still here!) :)

I thought it wasn't in there (cost cutting). I'm glad though.... rather not have it annoy me every time it thinks I'm asleep while driving (I need my beauty sleep).

Yes, fair enough. I didn't realise they'd renamed it Essence 64.

Cool! Did you go Orange?

yeah we've found the inflatables a PITA. Much prefer the hard foam and topper.

EV Meets on FB have regular shit going on, check it out.

Will do in a few months. Efficiency is pretty good actually. Even got home the other day with 3% after doing about 300km (70% highway)... surprised me.

It's a brilliant car. Bear in mind it doesn't have Voice, OTA updates, or an app in AU/NZ.

@@stormjuice Just hoping that forces other Chinese EV to also drop their prices.

Battery prices are coming down (as lithium is coming down), so they should come down a bit, just for that.... plus, competition, of course.

A friend of mine owns a Kona electric, Tesla M3 and Nissan Leaf. The Kona is his favourite to drive, even though it's on an ICE chassis.

btw I think the Ora is better, overall. MG4 is a better drivers car, but cheaper build and rip-off service costs were a major negative for me.

BUY THE MG

Nah, I bought the Ora.... $40k. Better equipped. Great design (I don't need a bigger boot or RWD.... save that for the Cybertruck :) ), and reasonable service costs ($99 per year, vs $1200 every 4 years with an MG).

The only one's which have two-toned interiors elsewhere are the Aurora and Red one's. We still have the Aurora two-toned in Australia. I don't like sunroofs.... especially in Australia. Too hot, can't tint them (risk of cracking), and can leak after time.

yes that is a really good point. I like the price of the small battery, and I like that it is LFP. But I do also like the sunroof... so a dilemna

You must love it even more now that it's $36k on the road. The Ultra or GT (or both) have a sunroof. They'd be a fair bit cheaper now as well. If you are in QLD then you also get another $6k off.

eh? :)

The hard base isn't really needed... was just an added extra for the hell of it. Top sheet also not really needed.... just extra comfort. We don't like the inflating mattresses as (a) they aren't as comfy, and (b) a PITA to pack away again. Much better to have the fold-out mattress imho. Either way, it's a brilliant (best) car to sleep in.

Yeah will need a software update. No other car I've driven (EV or ICE) does this though.

Built to a price, so didn't want to spend on a decent CPU.

@@stormjuice you know someone in Russia could probably get crysis running on that

lol

I appreciate that!

Well, I've only ever heard of snow falling on that 'mountain' (large hill)... Bluff Knoll, and it's barely any snow at all... melts pretty quickly on the rare occassions it snows there.

Good question. I'll ask.

That's excellent. So it's just getting used to them being a bit vague. Android Auto should be available in Feb in Australia.... though GWM has over-promised and under-delivered before on the carplay and android.

Yes you will get used to them.@@stormjuice

And now you should be pissed off that it's $5k cheaper!

That is odd about the no voice control as the one we test drove late last year it had voice control. It was not the same as the one that ended up being released, but the salesperson at the time said the only difference would be that our one would get heated seats. The new Ultra and GT have a lot more extras like ventilated, massage, and even memory drivers seat, even a powered tailgate and auto parking, so it's possible those 2 could get voice control as well? They are due very soon

Not for us in Aus :)

Cool! What other choices do you have there for EV's? I heard some brand (VW?) was selling a cheap EV in South America, but it has NO safety features so is a bit of a death trap. I'll try to find the video.

We have the BYD Dolphin, Volvo ex30, MG4, Seal, ioniq, many Leapmotor, Chery, and Dongfeng ev models, bestune nat, seagull, hozon neta v and upro, several JAC models, and there must be some others in this price range I'm missing ​@@stormjuice

You talking in China? No Leapmotor, Chery, Dongfeng and others here yet.

Fair enough... also a great car (better to drive and brilliant one-pedal-driving). It was very close.... I think the warranty service costs killed it for me, and also the lack of features in the base spec vs the Ora or Dolphin. If they'd had blind-spot assist at least, in the base, I might have been persuaded.... actually, no... would have to have birds-eye-view to have made me try to forget the warranty costs.

Nothing wrong with that, it's all about your priorities as to which one is more suitable. I think those who find MG4 lacking will definitely find the ORA fills the gaps and vice versa. They do the opposite things really well, but both still EVs meeting a price that more people can get into. Style will have a lot to do with which is selected. Some will find the ORA too out there and others will appreciate it's style. I think you will fall into one of those boxes. I thoroughly compared the Standard Range MG4 and ORA as that was the budget for a second EV and not a cent more before landing on the ORA, but not by a huge margin.

Totally agree. Both great cars, but in different ways. When I first went to pick up the first Ora for review, I took a car-nut friend (who is an architect and loves good design/styling, so he's owned Audi TT etc and now has some 3-cylinder BMW hatchback). He has a sarcastic soh and made me laugh when he said the Ora looked very MANLY. Funnily enough, he loved the MG4 (styling and drive), and wasn't bothered by the cheap plastics. He lives in an apartment though so isn't as easy for him to charge if he did get an EV. You are right... I like cars with personality. I have owned 2 Nissan Cube Z11's (the squarer one than the Z12).... my favourite car design of all time (if only it was affordable to convert one to EV). So what made you choose the Ora, if they were so close? The service warranty costs?

@@stormjuice my daughter is the primary user, so that was a factor. Safety tech was important. I know I'll be a passenger more than driver for this car, so accepted that was important. They loved the look of the car, whereas I liked the look of the MG4. We all drove (the licensed ones) and were passengers in both cars. Basically we all came to the same conclusion. The comfort and tech in the ORA edged out the nice driving feel in the MG4 and it's darn nice, the steering feedback is excellent in the MG4. We wanted a bit of both, but strangely enough that's what a Tesla has the best of both in many aspects. The ORA is darn cute, but yet not tiny in the cabin so a family of 4 without young babies, it just was the right choice. Both can do many things better and I don't think a Tesla is perfect either. First of all, wanted to go to all EVs. It's pretty easy to get $0.08 per kWh electricity plans at the moment (if you can schedule charging). We have some solar, a Tesla Wall Connector and off street parking sorted. So it all just makes senses right now and I've been watching the EV space for a while. It made sense for ride share/taxi a while ago to get into an EV. Now I think makes sense for more than just early adopters. Super early adopters often pay a large price for entry and that seems to be over or on the cusp of finishing up.

One more factor for heavy consideration, is the model 3 refresh was potentially also a very good choice, but this was substantially cheaper and available within days. I waited almost 4 months for a Tesla. Nobody likes waiting :) and didn't need something that big for this job.

That's what I was told, but happy to be corrected. Another viewer is thinking the NMC's are supplied by CATL. Either way, they are good batteries.

If you can find out, that would be great. I asked the dealer, who asked GWM.

Reuters "gwm ora" search has a article see the second last paragraph

The newer Cherry Cat has nmx by svolt, on Pushevs site.

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Can't trust many of the resources though, which is why I went direct to GWM. They didn't specify anything except Svolt. I don't think they would outsource NMC as they already make their own, anyway. Probably a big part of the reason BMW went to them to make the new Mini.

Cheers Rob. Ended up being done much later than planned. I had the blue one for a couple of days, nearly 2 months ago, but it had an issue charging at ABB chargers (known issue in UK and fixed via a software update), then I went on holiday for 2 weeks, then borrowed the white Ora (got some better footage with the DJI Action 3 I bought). Then borrowed the blue one again to take it to the World EV Day in Mandurah, and filmed a fair bit more, but the damn sd card got corrupted while I was copying files across (!). So eventually got it done with less footage (sorry), and then edited it wrong so it was 34 min (when you leave a bit of footage on another layer in Prem Pro it encodes the whole lot... anyway... dumb mistake), so had to re-edit, re-export and re-edit the posts on FB. Sorry, I'm ranting :) Glad you enjoyed it. Ludicrous Feed also released a review on the same day... it's very good (and more detailed on the settings). He also had an issue with the indicators, but explained it much better than I did :) ua-cam.com/video/nfblKByJ2AM/v-deo.htmlsi=0TIyopBIWHYydRHl

@@stormjuice a remarkably accurate review. Very good you touched on all the things someone who has spent more than 1 week with it will also pickup.

Cheers :) Got it done in the end, in spite of all the technical issues (inc the horrible sound on the final video (sorry)... sounds like I recorded it on the toilet (I can neither confirm nor deny :) ). Well, now I've gone and bought one (SR) on novated lease through my work. 4 years. Scary! My partner was telling me to just stick with my 150km range Leaf, but I guess I wanted a change, and I hope it's worth it. Anyway, I'll be doing more in-depth stuff on the Cat when I get it (already bought some 'interesting' badges from AliExpress as it's not got much in Australia (badge-wise). Tom did a great job of looking through the menu's/options, and I'll do something like that in a separate video (inc playing Mp4's, which is footage I lost, otherwise, would have been included on this video).

I thought so too, but it's not.... it's still based on the cost of replacing the car, the area you live in, where you have it parked, your driving history, the number of km you'll do each year, etc..... same as ICE. There are also discounts on finance AND insurance (e.g. RAC in WA have 25% off for EV's).

Absolutely.... some things have to go, or be cheaper, in order to meet a target price. The Ora is better value imho as it has all the fruit, good quality materials and drives well (the MG4 is better to drive, but has very little features). The Ora does the same thing re settings being reset when the car is turned off. Tesla doesn't forget the drivers settings (and you can add multiple drivers, all with their own settings), so I don't think it's an ANCAP thing.

It is a bit cheap (built to a price, inc removing a bunch of features for the Excite 51), but it's not tooooo bad. The infotainment unit is faster than the ZS EV, that's for sure, though it's still a slug compared to most others.

All cars are cheap inside if you look well enough. Unless of course you are prepared to shop in a different category

I really don't know, but it's not all down to the cars... it's also what the chargers can dish out.

If you bought the 51kW model, no. If you bought the 64 or 77, absolutely

140KW

@@warrenstewart3645on the essence LR yes

And Ora Cat is a better car too then (as they are about the same price). MG4 Excite drives great, but lacks features. Cat has all the features/quality and drives well. imho.