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I agree that iGaging produces tools that are generally well-made at a good price. (But there are a few clunkers.) Many people confuse accuracy with precision. Accuracy is hitting a mark exactly. Let's consider a trip to the rifle range. Accuracy is hitting the bullseye in the exact center. Precision is shooting a group, hopefully with the intention of hitting the exact center every time. But if the shooting technique is poor or the sights off, then the grouping may be off-center (precise but inaccurate), or all over the board (imprecise and inaccurate due to poor manufacturing or poor technique, or both). Thus, in the perfect world one hits the center exactly every time. But in the real world,, we hit the center occasionally, but hopefully the grouping is tight and close to center, and that shows that our technique is precise and the rifle manufacturing process had good tolerance. So in choosing a tool, choose one that is precise enough (i.e. the manufacturer's tolerance) to produce the most accurate results required, with the best technique that you can practice.

Does it really make sense to check the accuracy of a square using the edge of a piece plywood? Do we need anything with an accuracy of greater than 1/128 or even 1/64 for woodworking? I think the marketing dudes are laughing all the way to the bank. I have a Stanly tri square that I bought for $2.50 1970. Using these methods, they test "dead on."

Somehow, carpenters somehow managed to make fine furniture 500 years ago without squares accurate to 25 microns.

Fellow Fireman (retired U.K.) here. Vital to show how easy it is to have an accident with power tools. All it takes is a momentary lack of attention or a distraction and you’ve lost a finger or two. My comment is about using the mitre saw using your left hand on the saw and right on the wood. I’m right handed and try to always cut from the other side. My right hand on the saw, it just feels way more comfortable, I feel cramped if I’m on the other side and there is a danger of moving your right hand too close to the blade being right handed. Keep up the good work brother.

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you have either sold your soul to the devil or you actually dont know what the heck you are saying. After watching your video I actually click on your link to buy the set of Grizzly. they are not just a little out of square, they are extremely out of square. WFT dude, so what if i click on your link, I am returning it!!!!!! this is the first and the last of your video I watch. I am so pissed, I dont know who I am pissed at, me, you or grizzly.

This is my first time viewer and enjoyed the video. I am building a French Cleat System that will be combined w/ our current Elfa Garage Organization System that we got 10 yrs ago, which worked well for storage of small tools and stuff. However, since starting my new adventures in woodworking last year, thus getting power tools, their accessories, built JIGs and having residual wood from prior projects, space had decreased exponentially, plus things have become disorganized. Agree w/ you that having the most used tools visually presented in front than in a drawer, cut the time used to look for them. Thanks for the pep talk of not overthinking and just do it as it will make a huge difference in the shop. I am starting building mine this weekend. Keep up the good work!🙂

I guess you’re not still posting videos.

Not to take away from the very important points made in the video - an acceptable tolerance will change depending on the application, Woodpecker's tools aren't going to magically make you a better woodworker (and sadly I speak from experience on that point) - but it's a little disheartening that you admit around the 3:25 mark that your thumbnail image for this video is misleading/clickbait. C'mon.

I’m grateful to you for sharing your accident. I will keep it in mind, especially when I start getting bored a couple hours into making the same cuts again and again.

I do not have any Grizzly tools in my shop. I guess their 'industrial' grade tools are pretty good. Their 'hobby' tools are very hit and miss. Some are good, some need to be sent back, and that to me is a deal killer. I don't want to have to work on a tool I purchase in order to get it working correctly. Harbor Freight is worse. As for Woodpecker tools, I don't have any yet. However, I will be getting some. In part this is because I won't buy knock offs. Having been part of a family owned business that produced high end products and seeing knock offs on the market means I will want to buy from the people who designed and made the tool, not the copy cats.

I appreciate you not editing the accident out of the video. Great safety reminder for others. Glad you didn't hurt yourself. New subscriber here.

Curious, what are the longest boards you've tried running through it?

Well, I'm Going To watch the comparison video.

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Whats tough is being raised in a cabinet shop then going into the tile installation business. I apply the same accuracy in cabinet building to my tile installations, from the prep work to the finished job.

Get some sort of push blocks/sticks etc or you're gonna lose a finger, fingers, or a hand on that table saw!!! I read about a firefighter that had a kickback and the wood dragged his hand across the blade and SHREDDED his hand. No work of several years, and several hundred dollars worth of surgery, and physical/occupational therapy still has limited use of his right hand.

Great video and lots of good information to take in. I’ve been a drummer for almost 50 years. I have owned many pro level drum sets and a collection of over 20 snare drums. 3 of the 4 sets I currently own I have BUILT MYSELF! I bought raw drum shells and did all the processes to make a functional drum. I did so, at the time, with all box store tool. Combination squares are very important to the process, and at the time I had only an Irwin square and a few rulers. I dare anyone to find any imperfections on my drums. A couple of years ago I took up woodworking and have built numerous furniture pieces, that’s when my problems began. I still do not own any measuring tools over $60, and I build some decent stuff. It’s all about skill. I still can’t justify $180 for a square, not to say that I won’t treat myself someday. Thanks!

Is cost for Accuracy or Consistency? If the Grizzley squares are DIN 875-1 as they claim then there shouldn't be, as you mentioned, "mixed reviews". Maybe price isn't a reflection of accuracy but the labor for additional quality assurance to ensure consistency? I noticed the same issue of mixed reviews with IGaging as well. Because you received one that is square doesn't mean I will. Of course, it's also possible that it's not a mfg issue but fakes being sold on Amazon.

Accurate to .001 MAKES NONE SENSE AT ALL!!,, AND you could have got the exact set under a name other than Grizzly for 1/3rd that price.. Grizzly puts their name on them as does many other companies.. If you want to drop actual knowledge,, try this: 1 degree is approx .017 PER INCH that's 17 thousandths PER INCH,, So in a 10 inch span, 1 degree is almost 3/16" out (actual number .170) ,, You can NOT tolerance an angle with measurements with out including all factors... Perhaps an actual understanding would be of use here....

Funny video with lots of provoking thoughts about accuracy vs. cost. Thanks for sharing.

Many occasions, fear is a mind-alerter, not a mind-killer. Everything in proportion. Stay (proportionally) afraid of powertools! Thanks for keeping the footage and scaring us straight, so we hopefully don't have to experience it. Btw, I had a similar moment with cutting a too-short piece of wood on a miter saw. It had too little registering surface on the bed, reducing the moment-arm advantage you usually get. Nearly sucked in my left hand, which was holding the keep-part.

Basically a 4’x8’ sheet covers a 4’x8’ wall area.

This is the first of your videos I’ve seen. Well done. Thank you.

Nice vid. The tables are aluminum - no rust, but the paste wax does make wood slide easier.

Love your video, man. I've been woodworking for more than 30 years and I still only consider myself "pretty good." You are absolutely spot-on right when you say the only thing that matters is the ability to cut or drill accurately. I own a number of squares of various types, but honestly the ones I use 99 percent of the time are a six inch machinist square, a six inch Starrett combination square and a tape measure. As for Woodpeckers, I don't believe anything they claim and I don't buy from them any more.

I watched a guy walk up to me on the back stage of a theater set with all four of his right hand fingers dangling off the back of his hand by skin only. It was a real life horror movie and I went into shock just seeing it. I can't begin to say how grateful I am for your integrity on this platform. You really earned a huge deposit at the trust-bank of Michael Amos. You are the real deal, sir.

Subscribed; stopped by for your French Cleat take but staying because First Responders have my heart, several on both sides of my family. You guys and gals have been there for me too on 3 occasions (just aging medical, not shop related at least yet). I appreciate your occupation so I'll hang around for your side hustle, or encore, or whatever the beaver is angry about, thanks again!

i like your value based approach to tool reviews. I don't use my tools to make a living. I have a Makita track saw. It is a fine tool and makes extremely nice cuts. But, it does lack all of the polish and system integration of the Festool saw. As I get older the Festool approach is more and more appealing.

Bro just so you know the handle screws are spring loaded. They did make a great design you didn’t need to unscrew anything. Just lift up on the plastic handle and reposition so they don’t come in contact with one another

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Good job on the safety emphasis.

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What type blade did you use to get that clean of a cut? Did you notice any wobble in the sled on the rail?

Good luck getting the blade screws out when you need to change the blades.

Been thinking of doing the same. Came out great..!

I’m in the process of trying to plan out my shop vac and what that entails I would like to have it run to each tool for collection and then an area that I can sweep it up into for the floor.

I bought I-Gaging straight edges and learned two things 1) thei customer service do not exist 2) Even those AliExpress cheap tools are more accurate.

ROFLMAO. First thing i bought 20+ years ago But not the first time ive used them. 35 years ago i used them in a machine shop, the really good stuff too, as well as 1 2 3 blocks and Joe blocks. But you don't need to hold .0001 in woodworking news for you wood moves, so does metal yep metal moves just not as much. Heat and cold play a role in metal movement. You can take your combination square unless your positive it true and throw it in the trash. You buy a cheap combo square your wasting your money.

Two of my walls are cement!?!

Thank you so much for your service as a firefighter and for being honest about the complacency that can lead to very serious injuries. Are you happy with your choice of French Cleats, or would you have installed the double bevel instead?

Howdie great l ain't the only dummy that does dum things were human things happen we are in hurry gotta get it done another project to do thanks for sharing what ya did but life goes on ya got this hopefully we learn from this l,m mecnec not carpenter so will be watching more on tools that can hurt ya like mechanics tools can so thks joined up for more !! Oppss cause they do from Canada 🇨🇦 SK later keep it up 😊

Well, to begin with, a speed square is a CARPENTRY tool and will not usually give the accuracy of a good quality square. I have engineering squares that are DEAD accurate. My speed square would take a lot of work to match the accuracy. There may be accurate ones but all my Starrett squares are SPOT on and are more accurate than any carpentry tools. I do cabinet work and the accuracy is got to be good. Right tools for the job.....

Nicely done

Thanks for keeping it real.

I had to revisit this video - saw it before. First, great job. Second, precision ain't no good if my own skills and tools aren't up to snuff. Third, many's a time a woodworker "fudges" on an item that doesn't quite sit flat (I see this all the time on posted videos - you don't always need 100% precision. Fourth, having a square that costs as much as some power tools.. ludicrous. Finally, the average sheet metal shop can hardly build to a tolerance of +/- .005".. and .01" is considered industry standard - if you don't want to pay a fortune for your item as a customer.. the rejection rate grows by a LOT.. necessitating expensive, time consuming rework. Yep, why woodpeckers is SO expensive. BTW, the Mechanic's square is my shop standard.. a infinitesimal cost.. Thanks again for your sanity post!

Spot on. I've done the torsion box method for 35 years.. in part for portability/weight issues. The double 3/4" layer, glued and screwed together works very well. I do like laminate tops - very sturdy, and they will stay nice for decades to come. Great, short, video!

Thanks for covering the intermission. Glad to hear this discussed. We all need prompting. Thanks for covering safety first!!!

In my plan to imitate this great idea, I will be using 4" sewer pipe for the beam and I will be including the authours extension cord idea as well as a compressed air line. Thank-you for the inspiration.

One thing I appreciate about UA-cam Woodworkers is that they are humble and don't edit out their "fumbles." I've seen so many "near disasters" by proficient woodworkers, it just reinforces how dangerous this is. I am brand new to woodworking. Quite frankly, I'm nervous every time a blade spins. Anyone who gets hurt can never say they weren't warned! I think you should shadow box your ruler and end every video with a thumbnail and link to this safety lesson)