Classical Taekwon-Do / Manuel Adrogué
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ITF Taekwon-Do - patterns Ul Ji & Moon Moo (year 2000)
This is old footage of my last years competing in patterns. Although there are technical details I should have corrected (they departed from the ITF canon), overall I consider that the performance was good in terms of power and martial art attitude.
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Taekwon-Do Jockey Club - octubre 2023
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Examen en el Campo de Deportes, San Isidro. www.taekwon.com.ar
Pdo. de Almirante Brown: 120° aniversario don Esteban Adrogué
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Este video registra las palabras que pronuncié en ocasión del aniversario del fallecimiento de mi tatarabuelo, fundador del Partido de Almirante Brown en la Provincia de Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Choong Moo (ITF Taekwon-Do pattern), flying side kick 1987
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Footage of Manuel Adrogué, 1st gup, 1987
Taekwon-Do bolsa - Jockey Club
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Parte de mi entrenamiento, febrero 2023
Korean Kicking Project Ep. #9, Part II: The History of Korean Martial Arts
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This is the last Episode of the Korean Kicking Project. In particular, this part provides elements to put together the puzzle of the history of Korean Martial Arts in an honest and straight-forward way, escaping from the most common narratives. Please note that the history of Tae Kwon Do in particular has been considered in further detail during Episodes #2, #3 and #5. Content: 00:43 Welcome in...
Korean Kicking Project Ep. #9, Part I: Rhythm in Korean Kicks; Bouncing Drills
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This Episode is about the importance of Rhythm in Korean Martial Arts traning. Content: 00:00 Welcome intro 02:37 Contents of Episode 9, Part I 03:21 Musical Curtain 03:44 Promotion Ceremony to Taekwon-Do 8th Dan 11:22 Why bouncing matters 15:03 Bouncing or Rhythmic Kicking Drills 16:48 Rhythmic Drill # 1 17:11 Rhythmic Drill # 2 17:39 Rhythmic Drill # 3 18:54 Rhythmic Drill # 4 20:07 Rhythmic ...
Korean Kicking Project Ep. #8: Kicking the Korean Way: My 24 tips
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This Episode wraps up all the technical ideas contained in the Korean Kicking Project, and clarifies matters that may be important to consider when training or teaching. I also include photographs of many well-respected exponents of the Korean martial arts. Content: 00:00 Welcome intro 01:00 Musical Curtain 01:22 6 methodological choices for kicking education (imbedded in the KKP) 03:20 Present...
Korean Kicking Project Ep. 7: On Martial Arts Training, Health & Stretching
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This Episode is about the relationship between Martial Arts training and health. After a general approach to health, I focus on the different types of physical exercise and their benefits, I mention some martial art practices that may be harmful if improperly conducted. Then I go specifically to what is usually provided by martial arts training, and what they tend to lack. The last part of the ...
Korean Kicking Project Ep. #6: Ascending the Mountain of Kicking Progression; Target Drills
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Episode 06 is oriented to training and teaching. It provides a step-by-step progression for improving in the Korean Art of Kicking using the image of a mountain and 12 imaginary ascension points. In its second part we address the importance of kicking targets and make some recommendations on the ways to use them along with the most common mistakes. This episode finishes with 10 different Target...
Korean Kicking Project Ep. #5: Karate’s Unrecognized Appropriation of Korean kicks
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This is a very juicy video, which you will better appreciate after having watched Episodes 02 and 03. I accuse and provide overwhelming evidence about how Japanese Karate stole the Korean kicks without admitting it. This is a straightforward response to a video by Jesse Enkamp sensei (the Karate Nerd) in which he stated that modern Japanese Karate kicks come from French Savate due to a alleged ...
Korean Kicking Project Ep. #4: The 6 (+2) Fundamental Korean Kicks
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In this Episode 04 we go back from the Cultural to the Practical (we had temporarily left that in Episode 01). Here we analize each of the kicks which are necessary to build our well-rounded Korean style kicking system. We explain the mechanics, the underlying concepts, do's and don'ts and the reasons why all such kicks interact in such a way that they make up a compact package. We also include...
Korean Kicking Project Ep. #3: What makes Classical Korean Kicking Different?
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In this Episode 03 you will have an insight of what separated the kicks of Korea's Golden Era with those of old-school Karate. I will analyze the reasons for such changes, and the relationship between Tae Kwon Do and Tang Soo Do with Hapkido and Taek Kyon. I have also included some specific information about the inclusion of kicks in Kuk Ki Poomsae and ITF Tul, with some data that has never bee...
Korean Kicking Project Ep. #2: Martial Art Evolution; the Development of Korean Kicking
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Korean Kicking Project Ep. #2: Martial Art Evolution; the Development of Korean Kicking
Korean Kicking Project Ep. #1: Presentation & the 24 Combos to Master Kicker
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Korean Kicking Project Ep. #1: Presentation & the 24 Combos to Master Kicker
TRAILER Korean Kicking Project (KKP)
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TRAILER Korean Kicking Project (KKP)
Examen Cinturones Negros Taekwon-Do, mayo 2022
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Examen Cinturones Negros Taekwon-Do, mayo 2022
Exhibición de Taekwon-Do - Jockey Club (San Isidro), 2012
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Exhibición de Taekwon-Do - Jockey Club (San Isidro), 2012
Quarantine Taekwon-Do class May 25, 2020 (intermediate & advanced)
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Quarantine Taekwon-Do class May 25, 2020 (intermediate & advanced)
Quarantine Taekwon-Do class May 20, 2020 (intermediate & advanced)
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Quarantine Taekwon-Do class May 20, 2020 (intermediate & advanced)
Taekwon-Do Defenses / Blocks explained
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Taekwon-Do Defenses / Blocks explained
Quarantine Taekwon-Do class May 11 2020 (beginners & intermediate)
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Quarantine Taekwon-Do class May 11 2020 (beginners & intermediate)
Taekwon-Do Training: The "12 Elbow Strike form" (12 팔꿈치 형)
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Taekwon-Do Training: The "12 Elbow Strike form" (12 팔꿈치 형)
Quarantine Taekwon-Do Class May 4 2020 (advanced)
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Quarantine Taekwon-Do Class May 4 2020 (advanced)
Some Thoughts on the Idea Beneath Taekwon-Do Forms Training
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Some Thoughts on the Idea Beneath Taekwon-Do Forms Training
Taekwon-Do. Desplazamiento en "V" y conceptos asociados
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Taekwon-Do. Desplazamiento en "V" y conceptos asociados
Quarantine 2020 Taekwon-Do bagwork -as requested by a student
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Quarantine 2020 Taekwon-Do bagwork -as requested by a student
Taekwon-Do para Educación Cívica (homenaje a Mtros. HC Kim y NS Choi)
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Taekwon-Do para Educación Cívica (homenaje a Mtros. HC Kim y NS Choi)
X block / crossed defense (informal discussion clip for a TKD forum)
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X block / crossed defense (informal discussion clip for a TKD forum)

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @dra.soledadfalkinhoff4870
    @dra.soledadfalkinhoff4870 12 днів тому

    THANK YOU! IT´S AN EXCELLENT VIDEO

  • @soonwaikin9735
    @soonwaikin9735 Місяць тому

    Master , based upon my personal point of view kicks are can be shared crossed & integration into this various arts. Even kicks from Shaolin Kung fu is suitable to be in-corperated into Karate, Taekwondo etc..That's my humble opinion

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 23 дні тому

      Yes, at the end of the day physics are the same. But there are reasons why kicks "taste" different from style to style, depending on the priorities / choices (power, speed, wearing shoes, using kicks to assist a certain way of fighting with the hands as wing chun, etc) so even the mechanics may be different. In classical TKD we focus on power and speed, in Hapkido is more about hurting (see episode 3 on that). People usually think they can just pick one motion from another martial art into their arsenal. Of course you can do that, but changing the conceptual environment on which that technique was developed will affect and modify that motion. Nothing wrong with that, but it will no longer be what you thought you were "borrowing".

  • @junichiroyamashita
    @junichiroyamashita Місяць тому

    17:44 Ayy,i wish i found you a year ago,when i was racking my brain trying to answer this question

  • @indiaromero5945
    @indiaromero5945 Місяць тому

    Hola soy alumna de leandro San Juan.... m lllamo Uma

  • @TheMegazaya
    @TheMegazaya 2 місяці тому

    Greetings from Scotland. Excellent kicking demonstration Sir I wish I could kick as good as you. I'm a 66 yr old 2nd dan so I might not achieve this, but I will keep trying. Its interesting how you punch the bag hard without gloves or a wrist rap. I was told by a boxer not to do that. You must have toughened up your fist so it is not damaged. More videos please sir they are inspirational

  • @leonardoflores7702
    @leonardoflores7702 3 місяці тому

    Gran trabajo de investigación... Resulta interesante el origen y la evolución de la artes marciales desde su origen hasta el día de hoy.

  • @ornq2108
    @ornq2108 4 місяці тому

    Un genio !!!

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 4 місяці тому

      Jajaja Oscar, el afecto te nubla el entendimiento. Por favor no confundas a la gente!!!

    • @ornq2108
      @ornq2108 4 місяці тому

      @@ManuelAdrogue ya vi mucho en esta vida, y es mi apreciación, reitero mi opinión y mi admiración

  • @jamiebrooking6088
    @jamiebrooking6088 4 місяці тому

  • @allenschneider1847
    @allenschneider1847 4 місяці тому

    Wonderful historical presentation. Looking forward to seeing if you address the introduction of sine wave theory into ITF style which, in my opinion, ruined its techniques and forms.

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 4 місяці тому

      Thanks a lot Sir. Since this series is about kicking, I have only included a brief comment about sinewaving exclusively from the Korean cultural perspective. Sinewave is a difficult topic because several different things overlap. Poor technique, low training standards and TKD commercialism have spread in the last 30 years, which coincides with sinewave, and during the golden era of TKD there was no sinewave. However, the relationship about those facts is difficult to establish. We normally see bad samples of sinewave but that does not prove the concept itself to be wrong, as the problem may be in the lack of training and understanding. I have written an article on sinewave that may be found on my website www.taekwon.com but I am constantly gaining a deeper understanding on TKD basics (particularly the blocking techniques). I plan to prepare a video series on TKD basics from a combat perspective in the next 4 or 5 years (I think I will have a better idea by then, I will not release anything until I think it is worth sharing). But at this point, to me "sinewaving" is not about going up and down, its essence is about slightly bending your knees at midpoint, pressing your weight against the ground as it is done in Taijiquan for a pushoff. And I have no problem with that. Regards

  • @rileylucky6276
    @rileylucky6276 5 місяців тому

    I beg to differ with both you and Jessie. While there is a record of French Savate and Shotokan as derived from Okinawan te, it seems to be forgotten that many schools of martial arts didn't keep a technique guide and training manual. While most of what we know is based upon training middle-class persons, 25:01 and the sons, sometimes daughters, fighting skills- there were too many fights known only to legends. We know that much of the research is developed late 1880s and beyond. We tend to forget artists' conceptions that have been preserved by many cultures. Lucky Riley, 9th Dan

  • @rileylucky6276
    @rileylucky6276 5 місяців тому

    This a phenomenal series. This was a lot of research presented in an objective, fair and earnest way.

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 5 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot for your comment. Indeed, that has been my goal. Regards!

  • @Pan.USA.Dojang
    @Pan.USA.Dojang 5 місяців тому

    Excellent taekwondo 💯🥋🥋 STRONGER DESIGN

  • @josuefranco7506
    @josuefranco7506 6 місяців тому

    Excelente.. Muchas gracias... Saludos desde Colombia 🇨🇴

  • @josuefranco7506
    @josuefranco7506 6 місяців тому

    Sería bueno El Audio en Español... Gracias

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 6 місяців тому

      Estimado Josué, dediqué decenas de horas y mucho dinero en filmar y componer esta serie, para todo el mundo. El idioma que llega y es comprendido por el mayor número de personas es el inglés, es el idioma en que se publican los hallazgos científicos para hacerlos conocidos. Me ocupé especialmente del idioma español pues en lugar de dejarlo librado al traductor automático, escribí cada línea en nuestro idioma. Nunca se me hubiera ocurrido invertir el doble de tiempo para hacer dos versiones filmadas en distintos idiomas. Me incomodé mucho para hacer esto sin ningún tipo de renta; a quien le interese, pondrá su cuota de sacrificio e incomodidad leyendo los subtítulos. Es lo que ocurre con cualquier serie en Netflix, y nadie se queja. En un mundo donde se pretende que se entregue la comida en la boca, las artes marciales tienen una receta distinta. Saludos cordiales.

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    Sports karate is many things,in Norway sports karate was just kickboxing not similar to kickboxing or inspired by kickboxing it was no difference between club's calling themselves sport's karate and clubs calling themselves kickboxing everything was identical i been member in club's with both of those names and started instructing kickboxing in a club called Wolfgang wedde sports karate at age 15. It had nothing to do with traditional karate of any kind and not related to what is called sports karate outside of Northern europe

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    Seriously man the portion in your video called high kicks for combat is straight out lies exempt from what you said about these kicks didn't exist in Okinawa at the time..

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    Yeah whats called sports karate today has become more similar to tae kwon do, like really bad tkd by the way in kickboxing in the 90s we used tkd kicks kyokoshin kicks and Muay Thai kick's,the first roumd kick we learned was something between kyokoshin mawashi Geri and muay Thai high kick (it wasn't allowed to kick below the belt.the spin kicks was mostly tkd kick's only wheel kick spinning crescent kick and kicks with diagonally spins came from karate.we had no tkd round kick because it was to linear which didn't fit for plenty of reasons mainly the stance. At advanced classes we learned more round kick's like the thai version and Kawasaki geri connecting with shin and or instep but still kept the mix of the two which we learned as beginner's.same with side kicks we learned like five or sicks,more sidekicks including the side slide teep which is the closet kick in mt to sidekick... Its ridiculous to claim that kickboxing kicks came from one specific sport and only that.kickboxing is kicks from many martial arts mixed with boxing and the stance is tall like in Muay Thai and square like in boxing..it was never just a mix between two sports 😂

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    Jesse didn't provide any theories in that episode he only documented irrefutable fact's without inserting any opinions or theorries you used way to many strawmams that is totally unrelated to Jesse's words or documentation

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    Jean frunette was also competing in kickboxing musical arts which was called sports karate until kickboxing became legal all over Europe..my first kickboxing instructing job was at Wolfgang wedde sport's karate it was no difference between Wolfgangs sport's karate and other kickboxing club's at the time only difference was that they used the name karate because kickboxing was illegal when that club was established.. but jean frunette never participated in full contact as far as I know

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    I didn't know oyama was korean if that's true thanks for the knowledge but because of your previous strawmans i need to Fact check it but believe you until then ❤

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    Muay thai doesn't connect with the instep they connect with the shin kickboxing does both..why claim stuff when you don't know?

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    Its also false that there is no reverse kicks in karate uro means reverse but they are not always the same as the reverse kicks in savate,in savate The reverse kicks is used mostly to establishing the foundation to build kicking combinations.. anyways there's is kicks like turning sidekick and horse kick's in several ancient Martial art's like kamp Glima

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    You use a lot of straw mans by claiming that jesse said stuff he didn't say then dubunk your own strawman that's very intelectual dishonest.guys read my other book of a comment or the second half of it then watch Jesse's very well documented

  • @HeathenRidesdragons
    @HeathenRidesdragons 6 місяців тому

    Jesse documented that episode very well,it wasn't a insertion or opinion that the karate master in Jesse's episode learned savate kick's in the french military in the 1600s the documentation leaves zero to little space for doubts or opinions. Anyways it's very limited how many ways a human body can do simple and effective kick's in glima which is more than thousand years old nordic martial art their is the same kick's as in savate and Muay Thai and many wrestling and weapon moves used in several modern martial arts glima was the Martial art's of the vikings in north Scandinavia which they brought to the Roman empire and Russia trough the rus viking's which is just called varangians in Russia its same as varanger garden in Norwegian That's why some claim that it's not from the norse vikings its varangian, varangian is viking's from North Norway where rurik was from the first king of kievarus it was many styles of Glima just like it's many style's of Muay Thai and Korean martial arts did the nordics including the varangian guard learn kick's from other countries? Probably they did occupy Normandy and became semi intergrated im the french culture and learned the language etc but savate didn't exist as a sport back but Glima existed before the occupational activity by the Norwegians in France. so who knows who learned what from who but Jesse's documentation of the time savate kicks came to Japan and by who and why and how it happened to refute the proof and documentation you need to prove that Jesse's documentation is false made up and establish a motive for doing so what did he has to gain by making fake document's and visual documentation and provide evidence that said kick's didn't exist before Korean Martial art's as tkd isn't very old compared to other Korean martial arts. Did Korean martial arts exist before the norse/Norwegian Martial art's did Eirik jarl steal he's kick's from tkd 😂 did Kun khmer,let wei, bokator and muay boran do the same or are all these martial arts many hundred's of years older than Korean kicking arts? Is a footey not the same as a round kick because they connect with the tip of the shoe which is exactly what shotokan does to only without shoe they connect with the big toe which is crazy to me but is exactly the same as the savate kick its identical there is no such kick in tkd, yes they have round kicks to but it's a lot more linear and connect with the instep its a very different type of side kick which is just more evidence adding on to the absolute proofs of jesse. It's also no kicks in Glima mt lw mb jkd kb kk as far as I know its only karate and savate that has that exact kick,the karate philosophy about the mawashi geri the connect's with the big toe is to connect with a small round point like a hammer but I would never do it without shoe's and with shoes its identical to the savate footey. If you can show me that tkd do the same i would be impressed because I did tkd in my childhood before starting KICKBOXING MY first main instructor was also instructor in tae kwon do and was teaching us the difference between tae kwon do spin kick and kickboxing spin kick's etc after we asked why the round kick was different from tkd. How can you prove which variants are oldest and who did it first.. I think you are just biased and not searching for true knowledge but rather wants to further validate the sport that you are doing.

  • @Rysussybaka
    @Rysussybaka 6 місяців тому

    I've been arguing this too but no one seems to care 😢

  • @combatsportsarchive7632
    @combatsportsarchive7632 6 місяців тому

    Sir, this video of yours deserves as much views as the Karate Nerd's clickbait video. I think your investigation makes a lot more than that youtuber.

  • @zulkarnaenmohdz
    @zulkarnaenmohdz 6 місяців тому

    Thank you master for sharing

  • @hawkmans5505
    @hawkmans5505 6 місяців тому

    Great informational background.

  • @shikiyanaka
    @shikiyanaka 7 місяців тому

    Good stuff !

  • @ramondiaz2851
    @ramondiaz2851 7 місяців тому

    All your videos are extremely educational! Thanks for sharing this with the world!!

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 7 місяців тому

      Thanks for your appreciation!!!

  • @ramondiaz2851
    @ramondiaz2851 8 місяців тому

    Find 3 of your 24 combs very effective for me!! Thanks for sharing!!

  • @samjackson6066
    @samjackson6066 8 місяців тому

    I know this is an old video however, i feel it is still relevant. Hes not going a full 1000% speed. Hes doing it slow and methodical working on balance, flexibility, and strength on top of this, he is using ankle weights. It is hard enough to control your movements when you slow them down but the fact that he is showing so much control while using ankle weights is awesome. Do not go full speed, work it slow and steady just like he is showing in the video. Definitely use the equipment with care and at your own pace to avoid injuries and hyper-extensitions to joints and limbs. I have a similar workout and have been doing it without any injuries. Nothing too crazy, just basic stuff to build strenght and balance just as he is showing in the video (and yes, i am over 50 as well.) Great job in showing the strenghts and flaws with training with ankle weights.

  • @glshim13
    @glshim13 8 місяців тому

    아드로게 사범님 감사합니다. 한국인도 아니신데 다른나라의 무술의 대한 사랑이 대단하십니다. 항상 건강하시고 영상으로 많이 배우겠습니다. Muchas gracias Master Adrogue!

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 8 місяців тому

      Dear Sir, thanks a lot. I hope you like the series. Keep me informed of your opinion of the other videos. By the way, where are you based? I am planning to travel to Korea next year.

    • @glshim13
      @glshim13 8 місяців тому

      @@ManuelAdrogue It will take me some time but definitely will go through the series! I am located in the US actually.

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 8 місяців тому

      @@glshim13 Although I made my best efforts to only put relevant and useful information in the series (so I consider all episodes useful), my favorite episodes are #1, #2, #3, #5. and very particularly #9 part II because they include things that are really different than what is common knowledge.

  • @JoeVentura-oy9pb
    @JoeVentura-oy9pb 10 місяців тому

    Sir, was there sighn wave in classic Tae Kwon Do?

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 10 місяців тому

      Hi Joe. Good question. No and Yes. Let me clarify. If by "sinewave" we understand an amplified up and down motion when performing forms/patterns which is seen in today ITF TKD, the answer is "no". The sinewave as a distinct concept which lead to that current version started to develop in the 1980s. However, there was a "seminal" (seed) of that in the 1960s. And the heart of the sinewave (past and present) is in the push-off against the ground of the supporting foot, which leg (knee) is bent at the moment when the other foot passes by. That bending of the knee works as the shock absorber of a car and is also found with a different emphasis / flavors in karate styles and Taiji, Hsing-yi and Bagua methods of kung fu. So in essence, "yes", it did exist because sinewave is about the "knee spring" (an expression by Gen Choi), and not about the up and down of the head. A final comment: Classical TKD is a term I use to refer to the way most schools practiced TKD during the mid 60s to early 70s, when training was still mostly about real fighting with some sports (contact sparring) component, heavy drilling in basics and tough training. In the last 50 years many good and many bad things have happened in TKD. Mechanical understanding has improved tremendously, but commercialization and standards have had huge negative effects in all TKD formats. I believe that people today that conform to the aforementioned standards may be doing Classical TKD regardless of their affiliation. However, in terms of mechanical understanding it would be foolish not to appreciate the progress that has been achieved. And with all due respect, I have found that the ITF approach to TKD is in general terms closer to that. Regards!

  • @luchogamba
    @luchogamba 10 місяців тому

    Hola! gracias por los videos! Tenia una pregunta, en el combo 1, al realizar las primeras demostraciones se lo escucha nombrar las tecnicas... No logro escuchar como nombra la patada abanico hacia afuera. Creo haber escuchado esa terminología como "buchu chagui" o algo similar. Pero al estudiar las patadas desde la enciclopedia clasica del año 85, no figuran de esa manera. Conoce el origen de esa forma de llamar a la patada en abanico? Muchas gracias

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 10 місяців тому

      Hola, los nombres más comunes de todas las patadas están en el Episodio 4, incluyendo distintas variantes. Como aclaro es este mismo episodio, los nombres que utilizo para las patadas vienen de los maestros coreanos que enseñaron a mi maestro, no de la Enciclopedia. De hecho, la patada en abanico hacia fuera no es de uso habitual (aunque existe) en ITF. Yo utilizo el nombre sinocoreano "(bakuro) buche chagui" 박으로부채차기. Saludos

  • @mysticramen4104
    @mysticramen4104 10 місяців тому

    Buenas, ante todo, muy buen video, queria consultar, es obligatorio pelear en torneos en la escuela? Saludos.

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 10 місяців тому

      Hola. No, no es obligatorio para nada. No es nuestro objetivo. Los torneos son un elemento relativamente secundario, pero que en determinado punto de la formación del alumno surge como algo natural, algo que nos piden, un paso más en su camino de crecimiento. El contacto es muy controlado, pero la adrenalina y el hecho de enfrentar esa situación (que no es peligrosa pero a veces el alumno la piensa así) es un hito que afianza la confianza en uno mismo. Por eso no les damos especial importancia, pero no desconocemos las ventajas formativas que a veces conllevan. Cada alumno es un mundo, y nos manejamos con esa premisa. Gracias por tu consulta.

    • @mysticramen4104
      @mysticramen4104 10 місяців тому

      ​​​@@ManuelAdrogueahh entiendo, no consideras que los combates de semi contacto sean peligrosos entonces? Digo, porque yo he visto knockouts de taekwondo itf o de karate de marcación. Ah y por cierto, requieren de protecciones para entrenar? Del estilo guantes, tibiales, protectores de empeine ect.

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 10 місяців тому

      @@mysticramen4104 Tengo 40 años practicando Taekwondo y otras artes marciales. Los combates de semicontacto "pueden" ser peligrosos como lo puede ser un partido de fútbol o de rugby. Depende quiénes pelean y qué categoría. Dos chicos preadolescentes peleando con protectores sobre piso de goma, sería una rareza absoluta que haya algo más que un golpe incómodo a la cara. En clase, en general se usan protectores (sobre todo los chicos para tranquilidad de los padres) y a veces no, dependiendo de muchas variables. La esencia de las artes marciales tradicionales está en el control (las MMA son otra cosa). Enseñamos a controlar nuestro temperamento y la potencia con la que golpeamos, no delegamos en el protector la función de atemperar el impacto, debemos hacerlo nosotros. De hecho, he competido bajo reglamento de ITF, de WTF y de karate en torneos abiertos con protectores y conceptos distintos (control de potencia en ITF, control de distancia en karate, restricción de blancos en WTF). Pero sí, en general usamos protectores. Es una disciplina de contacto y de control, asumimos cierto nivel de peligrosidad porque sin ese elemento no es realista pensar que alguien aprenda a protegerse contra un ataque violento. Saludos

  • @rajeshkhilari
    @rajeshkhilari 10 місяців тому

    आपने बहुतही अच्छा अध्ययन और संशोधन किया है । प्रस्तुतीकरण बिल्कुल सटीक है । इस ज्ञान शृंखला के लिए आपका बहुत बहुत आभार 🙏

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue 10 місяців тому

      Thanks a lot for your kind words!!! All the best for you my friend!

  • @luchogamba
    @luchogamba 11 місяців тому

    Como puedo conseguir ese piso para un salon?

  • @johncurtis5367
    @johncurtis5367 11 місяців тому

    10 years post Korean War General Choi unified most style into Taekwondo to develop South Korea national strength for mandatory military service. Those young students who were advanced in Taekwondo and Yudo(Judo) received better schools and training. This is important and has loss favor over the years. Today martial skill are self development and watered down compared to then. I am proud to teach how I was taught and should be remembered because of it's greatest in mind,body and spirit development!

  • @l2a3sterling
    @l2a3sterling Рік тому

    LA BOXE FRANCAIS - BY MICHEL DELAHAYE (look like taekwondo: l stance, side block) m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41sK1PoeJ6L._SY342_.jpg

  • @l2a3sterling
    @l2a3sterling Рік тому

    SAVATE BOOKS show spin hook (reverse tournet I think) in the 1830's.............

  • @l2a3sterling
    @l2a3sterling Рік тому

    I had an edition of blackbelt or karate illustrated from the 1970's. it had an article on the french karate assoiation. Mentioned wasteachers by regions of France and the instructers ranking. About 40/50 per cent of the instructers had savate certification/ backgrounds. Dominic Valera was especialy good kicker and used a savate style spin sweep. He put those kicks to good use when he attacked the referee's with a flying side kick during the world Karate championships in Los Angeles - LOL

  • @jerryrichendollar7096
    @jerryrichendollar7096 Рік тому

    An educational & informative presentation.

  • @andresf12
    @andresf12 Рік тому

    Gracias por compartirlo. Llegué a este video gracias a su trabajo sobre la Onda Sinusoide del 2019. Espero seguir aprendiendo. Saludos

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue Рік тому

      Gracias Andrés. Te recomiendo (aquí en mi canal de UA-cam) el Proyecto Patada Coreana. Son 9 episodios que preparé con mucho trabajo, cargados de información. Te aseguro que te van a gustar. Saludos!!!

  • @robinj6997
    @robinj6997 Рік тому

    I really like this historical presentation of Taekwondo. Especially episode 2,3 and 5. Did you ever summarize it in a message to Jessy? I'm sure he would listen to what you had to say, but those three episode are 2h in total length which is a lot to ask for someones initial interest.

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue Рік тому

      Thanks for your interest! In connection with the extension of the episodes, it is really hard to satisfy both ends of the spectrum (those with "initial interest" and those that are already quite knowledgeable). I decided to put all the info up front to satisfy the most knowledgeable, who typically have been exposed to partial or slanted versions, to complete their knowledge with lesser know but relevant data. For those with little initial knowledge, I tried to make it as entertaining as possible. But at the end of the day, my intention was to provide serious and detailed info in video format, and sadly there's a cost to be paid in terms of length. About Jesse, I tried to contact him repeatedly before releasing the video and after that, by various means including his Facebook group. I was ignored (or better stated, I have been ignored so far). I don't give up, as I see people that have adopted the flawed Karate-Savate connection due to Jesse's credibility. Hope I end up communicating with Jesse some day.

    • @robinj6997
      @robinj6997 Рік тому

      I agree with you assessment. At least now the information is easier to find for those seeking it out. The history of Taekwondo is quite diluted by miss information so you initiative was good. And I also see the Karate-Savate comments trickle through the internet after that video got uploaded. I can write a summery to Jessie in Swedish, it might cut through the crowd. Can also attach some screenshots from you presentation and leave the link to the videos, if he wants to dive deeper. He recently did a video about Tang Soo Do, and he might have a video about Taekwondo coming up. The interest might be higher now. I hope he finds a good source haha

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue Рік тому

      Thanks a lot@@robinj6997 I would love if you can get Jesse watch it. In general, TKD information is excessively slanted in favor of one group or another, and foreign (non-Korean) sources have been reduced to Karate in a rather simplistic manner. Regards!!!

  • @kenirawadi4689
    @kenirawadi4689 Рік тому

    Thank you very much for making this very useful video.

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue Рік тому

      Thanks for your interest! I hope you like the series. And I particularly recommend the combos in Episode 1!

  • @NBTKDA
    @NBTKDA Рік тому

    I classify Kukki TKD as having 10 Basic Kicks (all performed using the rear leg) along with Common and Uncommon Kick Modifiers. 1) Front Kick / Ap Chagi / 앞 차기 2) Turning Kick / Dollyeo Chagi / 돌려 차기 3) Side Kick / Yeop Chagi / 옆 차기 4) Back Kick / Dwi Chagi / 뒤 차기 (not the same as Back Turning Side Kick) 5) Axe Kick / Naeryeo Chagi / 내려 차기 6) (Whipping) Hook Kick / Huryeo Chagi / 후려 차기 7) (Scorpion) Hook Kick / Nakka Chagi / 낚아 차기 8) Twisting Kick / Biteureo Chagi / 비틀어 차기 9) Inward Crescent Kick / An Chagi / 안 차기 10) Outward Crescent Kick / Bakkat Chagi / 바깥 차기 From here, each of the Basic Kicks (done using the rear foot) may have one or more common or uncommon modifiers applied to them. Here are some examples: Front Foot Kick / Ap Bal Chagi / 앞 발 차기 - The front foot kicks while the anchor foot does not travel. Example: Front Foot Front Kick / Ap Bal Ap Chagi Fast Turn Kick / Ppaleun Bal Chagi / 빠른 발 차기 - The front foot kicks after the anchor foot travels forward. Travel → Chamber → Kick Example: Fast Side Kick / Ppaleun Bal Yeop Chagi Cut Kick / Keoteu Chagi / 커트 차기 - The front foot kicks while the anchor foot travels forward. Naturally a Yeop Chagi in WT competition. Chamber → Travel → Kick Example: Cut Turn Kick / Keoteu Dollyeo Chagi Tornado Kick / Dolgae Chagi / 돌개 차기 - A 360° back turning kick, with the first leg coming around to serve as a feint, impedance, or distance tool before the other foot delivers a kick. Naturally a Dollyeo Chagi, but can be applied to other kicks. Example: Tornado Axe Kick / Dolgae Naeryeo Chagi etc. I really enjoy learning about your approach as well though, sir! Fantastic videos!!!

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue Рік тому

      Thanks a lot for sharing such precise information. As you understand, I practice "Classical TKD" which I tried to define in the first Episode. There are reasons for me to exclude from my program certain kicks due to their specialized function, typically suitable for WT competition but not for a more martial-oriented training. But I appreciate good Taekwondo skills in any format they may show up! Regards!!!

    • @NBTKDA
      @NBTKDA Рік тому

      @@ManuelAdrogue Absolutely, sir! My apologies if I came off as insinuating that you are incorrect in any way, I was just relating my current understanding of TKD from a Kukki perspective. Your analysis and reasoning are very informative and I've learned a lot from watching, in fact I've watched a few in the series multiple times. Thank you for your research, knowledge and passion on the subject.

  • @NBTKDA
    @NBTKDA Рік тому

    At 38:18 two of my students are there showing the 판 돌려 차기 pan dollyeo chagi, cool! I've been going through your series and absolutely love it.

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue Рік тому

      Their technique is very good, congratulations! And thanks for the nice comment!!!

  • @terrydawson2239
    @terrydawson2239 Рік тому

    So far I really like your series. I hate that you felt the need to dedicate an entire episode to Enkamp's silly clique bait notion about savate. He is youtuber in true form...where lies and half truths secure views, advertising dollars and thusly a "UA-cam paycheck". Do you mention Won Kuk Lee (of Tang Soo Do Chung Do Kwan) anywhere in your series. As you may know he is credited for establishing the first tang soo do kwan in Korea.

    • @ManuelAdrogue
      @ManuelAdrogue Рік тому

      Terry, thanks for your comment. Hope that you continue to like the subsequent episodes! When I heard a knowledgeable TKD exponent mentioning Savate as the source of Karate kicks, I felt compelled to clarify the whole thing. But I am not mad at Jesse (although I would have liked that he takes note of my video), because it was the perfect excuse to be clear on the fact that Karate has "stolen" the Korean kicks. I have included pictures and labels of all Kwan founders, including Lee Won Kuk, in chapters 2 and 9, although I don´t consider them to be particularly relevant in terms of kicking development -maybe Hwang Kee, but not really-. This does not affect my appreciation for their work and the seed they planted. Regards!