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I can’t remember the parameters at the time. But I have brightness left as default and I have string resonance set to 8. Touch is medium and reverb concert hall.

@TheScottishDad So my piano is broken (

@@TheScottishDad I had the volume limiter turned on at 80 percent, when I turned it off now, the Bösendorfer started playing much better, and most importantly - louder. I was a little happy. But as for me, it still remains insufficiently expressive and for some reason in your video it sounds much brighter, however, cfx also sounds much brighter than usual. Perhaps you edited the sound after recording?

I’m fortunate enough that I can spend the money to get the best instruments, as others may be too - part of it was knowing the 885 was the flagship and that the Piano Room, soundboard and key lengths were improved in this model and that they way it looked too (like a nice piece of furniture). I’ve always had the flagship models so generally stick with Yamahas best offering. I have played some of the other models but to me the touch wasn’t as realistic and the speaker wasn’t as clear. The 885 for me had better sound generation and a better keyboard. I would say that the 785 would be a nice replacement if you can get one - I’m not sure on the exact differences tbh, just being upfront. I would say that if you can travel to try it then do so as what is appealing to me may not be for you. We may have different motivators for spending, as I say, for me it was knowing I had the best Yamaha had to offer in this range.

There is a setting in the Yamaha called Local Control. You can set this to On (or Off) I can’t remember which but this will turn off the sound within the piano. In terms of connecting to Pianoteq, it’s just the cable from the piano to tour computer. It’s the cable that is the printer cable shape (the square shaped one) from the piano. You don’t need other cables. In terms of the Pianoteq sound - you can go to options and then make sure the sound is coming from Clavinova. It should automatically detect it. You want to set your buffer size to 256 or lower as this will reduce the delay.

Another tip on the sound part is that you can chose a piano sample you don’t use (upright piano). Then set the Voice Edit volume to 0. This means you don’t need to mess about with Local Control setting each time, you can simply switch to Upright Piano (or whatever one you set volume to 0 on) and then no sound will come out for that piano on the Yamaha but it will for Pianoteq.

@@TheScottishDad Thank you very, very much!

@@anmalder I find them all noisy. Tbh it wasn’t something I noticed or that struck me too much. It is a little noisier than my 585 but not much. I tend to keep the volume slider at least half way and when I’m focused on playing I don’t notice. Although, now you’ve mentioned it, it’s all I’ll hear now 😆

@@kaseis it was pricey, yes. Not sure, I haven’t played it to compare :-)

I went in to buy a CLP 875 or 885 and came away with an 845. Biggest issue was not price (although I saved a bit) but touch. The Grand Touch S just felt softer and more pleasant than the GT. Very personal but wonder if anyone else feels this.

@@CvS2016 I felt the same. The salesman said it could just be that the 845 is "easier" to play while the 885 is more difficult to handle, like an acoustic. I'm a beginner, so I couldn't dispute. The downweight of the key felt good, but the upweight was too big, unlike an acoustic. That's my perception. The 845 is lighter overall, the downweight is probably too light compared to an acoustic, but the upweigth felt good. Anyway, are you happy with it?

Yes I am very happy with the 845. The key action is just a small amount lighter than the grand touch and still wooden keys. I have played a bunch of acoustics and all have very different actions, so hard to compare but certainly in the same domain. One issue is that there are relatively few non keyboard instruments to fool around with. My old CSP 170 had many more voices like flamingo guitar and many others. Not sure why they would change this?

@@CvS2016 Interesting. I could probably get used to the 885, but I am leaning toward the 845. My only hesitation is that maybe the 885 would prepare me better to transition to a variety of acoustics, including heavier uprights (I am probably overthinking this). Yeah, not sure about the sounds, probably a way to artificially differentiate the CLP and CSP lines 😏

@@tied515 it’s the inbuilt record functionality. I save the file to the piano then export to usb. There is a function where you can change midi to audio on the piano menu - then export.

@@TheScottishDad Thank you very much for your answer

@@anmalder it means it’s the CFX sample and I’m continuing later in the video. Cont… = continued.

@TheScottishDad that is, it is no different? did I understand correctly? it seemed to me that it was different

@@nik0wat it was the sample - it done it even if I recorded to USB and listened back with headphones. It’s a string resonance and part of the sample. Tbf, when I listen to other samples and ones in Pianoteq - the same resonance can be heard on some notes.

@@nytram1309 hey, I’ll check this out on my piano in the next few hours and let you know if I can recreate it.

Many thanks … I appreciate it. The issue is even worse with the Ballad Grand voice, so I’m confident it’s not the sampling.

@@nytram1309 hi , I tried on my piano and can’t recreate what you describe. I too can feel the vibration on the keys but that’s part of the design. I’d maybe take the back panel off (held with Velcro) and check nothing is loose but my piano is fine.

Thanks very much for trying … I appreciate it. I can feel the over enthusiastic vibration by placing my hand on the back of the piano. And it’s particularly bad when using the Ballad Grand voice. I’m in touch with Yamaha and we’ll see what happens. In another comment you mention Pianoteq … do you get that playing through the 885 sound system or some other way?

@nytram1309 I get the Pianoteq playing through the 885 speakers and it’s great, much better piano samples than what the 885 comes with, the richness, clarity and tonal depth is impressive. Much more like a ‘real piano’. I have my 885 connected to my MacBook via the TO HOST connection. One cable and that’s it.

I personally agree that the price is a little high, but the value is quite good on this piano as it is probably the best or second-best digital piano in the market (some people prefer Kawai, but I don't like the action on a Kawai as much). I do think an 875 is quite similar and much cheaper (I tried both; the 885 definitely feels and sounds better, but I don't think it's worth it).

@@arkadiuszk.3898 I haven’t tried the 875 but the 885 has metal pedals - I’d be very surprised if the pedals were plastic.

It has not. I tested one yesterday.

@@Schicksal0 And? You like it?

Is there a big difference between the CLP 785 and the CLP 875? Is it true that the CLP 875 has plastic pedals?!

The 875 is also nice, I recently tried both in a store for me the 885 is a little bit better with the sound and the touch is different but said being said the 875 is also a great device, you should try them both, if you have the opportunity you can find a detailed overview of the different models on yamahas website if you look up the specifications of clp 800 series

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Hey - I recorded direct onto a usb from the pianos sound generator and then moved this file over to my laptop and synced with the video.

@@MonaroMel1 Hey, no problem. Glad the video was helpful. Yes, the 875 is essentially the same piano with a different look. I struggled too to find video reviews on the new models. Part of me wishes I’d kept my 585 now - I use Pianoteq a lot and they sound better imo to the onboard samples. Everyone has a preference though - how long have you been playing? Any particular style? :-)

@TheScottishDad Hi, well I started playing when I was 10, grade 4 at 12. Then my parents divorced and I stopped having lessons. Biggest mistake of my life. I then found a guy playing a piano piece on UA-cam that I've always loved which reignited my passion. I figured now's the time to start again. I bought a £210 "Glarry" piece of rubbish off amazon which is OK for kids, but I quickly realised it is terrible. I'm hoping the 875 is a huge step-up! I've now restart my lessons and I'm loving it. She plays on upright acoustic Yamaha, but wants a CLP885. I guess they're so similar now and with the bonus of not having to tune it and the ability to turn the volume down during evening lessons it's very attractive. Classical music is almost all I know (piano wise) however the pieces I'm working on currently are from Game of Thrones. I just love the piano and escapism it provides. I'm really looking forward to receiving my CLP. You're playing is fantastic. How long have you been playing and is Classical your genre?

@@TheScottishDad I also wanted to ask, do you regret the upgrade, seriously? Also where did you get it from? I used Rimmers, Edinburgh. It's saying 2 weeks for delivery but i'm hoping it'll be sooner.

@@MonaroMel1 sorry, just getting around to this comment, my phone didn’t notify me. To be honest, I think I do slightly. It was a lot of money for really not a lot of difference. It sounds and feels largely the same to my 10 year old 585. Kinda wishing I’d kept the money haha. Ah, I used them too! I stay over in Dunfermline. You close by then as well I’d imagine? There is a piano meetup group each month down near haymarket that’s quite a nice social if you’d be interested? Everyone gets together, some chat and you have the opportunity to play infront of the members if you want, everyone takes turns and no pressure. Really good vibe.

@@MonaroMel1 aw thank you, and glad you’re back into it! I’ve been playing since I was a little kid, around 10 or so. I’m 36 now and still at it but sometimes I drop it for a few months (or years) :-). I like Chopin and Beethoven, mostly classical / romantic era. I teach too! I’d love to hear some of what you’re learning.

Hi, thanks for the feedback. I have tried various models over the years, including the Casio. The Casio was impressive, however; for me, there’s something about the feel from the Yamaha. The build quality and sound are more to my liking. It’s a brand I’ve stayed with for a long time and have been impressed with.

@@TheScottishDad What about Kawai? Which do you prefer?

My 585 was getting old (over 10 years) and I wanted a new model to replace it. I’m not over the moon with it, but it is a nice upgrade and will last a long time and my son can use this too when he’s older. I got a good trade in price for my old piano so the timing was right. It’s an improvement, but not as much as I was hoping for.

Yes, it’s quite pricey. I think most goods these days are inflated tbh. My last piano (CLP-585) lasted over 10 years, so for me, this new one should do me another 10. My son shows some curiosity for the piano too, so I wanted to get a new model for the house and hope he takes to it as well.

Ya i bought 725 recently 😊

@@german.direct I find myself using Pianoteq 90% of the time now and bypassing the built-in sounds of the CLP885. The sound from Pianoteq are far superior in terms of realism.

I tend to agree - I was hoping for a little more in terms of tone generation and action improvement. It’s a new model though and should last me another 10 years or so. I play everyday and the action is a nice improvement, my 585 was getting tired as well and was in need of replacement. I’d like to have seen a better escapement mechanism. Perhaps with real action inside to produce the feel of actual hammers.

And my still working perfectly clp 170! I would be interested to compare the actions though. Compared with my acoustic piano, its action feels kind of dead

@@pjzz2000 I had a CLP170, and all the keys snapped!

@buckachiddy hahaha, that's dramatic! I had all my keys replaced because Yamaha did a recall on their faulty keyboard....maybe my keys would have snapped too 😳

@@pjzz2000 The 270 was a lot more robust. These days I have a P515 and a Sauter 185 Delta. P515 actually is pretty good.

Thanks for the comment. In person, the sound is very realistic, I was impressed with it. The recorded version here doesn’t relate to the in person sound. I’d encourage you to try one in person and see how you feel then. I’d agree that it’s not perfect. But it’s a nice improvement. As I say, I tend not to use the built in sounds and instead use Pianoteq as this sounds better to my ears.

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He said "SYNTHETIC ivory

@@MrFlint51 Did he? My mistake. Sorry. Then again, he should have said synthetic EBONY because I can't see the point of making black ivory. But I'm just trying to get out of a problem I created here... :)

@@MrFlint51 You didn't get the joke. If your ivory is black, whoever elephant provided it has rotten tusks.

Yamaha quote the term “synthetic ivory”. I’m using their terminology here.

ebony = black... ivory = NOT black :)

I really wanted a Kawai but due to the stair setup in my house it wasn’t practical to get the one I wanted. The CLP dismantles enough to get it up the stairs. The Bosendorfer sample sounds ok on the 885 but I find myself using Pianoteq 90% of the time as those are hy far the most realistic sounds I’ve come across.

@@TheScottishDadOh, could you make a video showing the 885 with the Pianoteq? Please with microphone from your room and with audio out to see the difference.

It's strange Yamaha would skimp on the Bosendorfer samples considering they own Bosendorfer since 2007.

@@TheScottishDadI’m guessing you were looking at the Kawai CA901? I was just quoted $4,699 for a brand new Kawai CA901 or a Yamaha CLP885. I own a brand new Kawai GL40 grand I just got but it’s is too powerful for my apartment so I’m about to pull the trigger on either the CA901 or the CLP885. Still undecided

Im sorry for the late reply - my notification settings aren't great here - so fixed that up. Thank you for the compliments. Did you continue to work on this piece yourself? How far did you get?

Really need this one

Apologies for not replying to this sooner. I did try the 785 and found the action a little lighter and the samples were of better quality; however, I recently discovered good quality software instruments (VST's) and use on my CLP 585 and I have to say, they totally transformed my digital piano. It feels like it has a new lease of life and the sample quality from the VST (Pianoteq) just blows the samples from the CLP out of the water. I now use the VST with my piano and a good set of monitor speakers and would never look back.

@@TheScottishDad So, do you feel an improvement in 785 over the 685? I own a 685 and considering replace it because the pedals...it is harder than an accoustic one, for God sake. Everything else is fine (keyboard action, including) at my opinion. By the way, thanks for the review!

I'm still enjoying the 585CLP and still have it as my main instrament.

Thanks - I'm self-taught and learned to play over the years.

I experience the same hardness on the sustain pedal. I thought It was me...

For me, I would save the extra money and get the CLP585. I found the 685 to be dissapointing but like anything, try before you buy as you may like the heavier action. If you're decided on one of those two models, I would try both back-to-back if you can. The 685 sample quality was very good and I prefer the look of the 685 with it's taller cabinet.

Consider Kawai ca79??

not a tritone :D

Vexalord oops didn’t see that, sorry lol

I touched on some of that in this video. In summary, the 685 has a better sample thanks to more processing power being allocated to it although, youd have to really listen for it. The 685 has more powerful speakers and blue tooth connectivity. The 685 also has an additional counter weight to make the keys heavier but in my opinion, the keys are now too heavy in the 685. I went back to #9and still have) my 585

JB I’m glad you touched on this. I went to a piano shop today to test this out and the keys are heavier than my new acoustic upright lol

Agree in the part of the new age