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Well, the creationist Christian world view defies logic - which is why I quit the evengelical church - oh, and their attitude to gay people and abortion, as well.

Day is not the same as 24 hours, not in the past and not today. The earth is not about 6,000 years old and the Bible does not teach this. Hebrews 4:9-10: "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his." This tells us that the 7th day has not ended. Thus day 7 is a long time span, thus day 1 to 6 must be a long time span. Each believer are to enter into day 7. Also there no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended. Biblical Hebrew has a limited vocabulary, with fewer words compared to other languages, such as English or Spanish. This means words often have multiple meanings determined by context. Day - yom is commonly rendered as day in English translations, but the word yom can be used in different ways to refer to different time spans thus literally is: Sunrise to sunset Sunset to next sunset Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). We use the word day the same today: In my grandfather’s day cars did not go very fast. Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 "ancient mountains". Gen. 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. Have you entered into the 7th as Hebrews 4:9-10 asks you to? Creationism does not equal young Earth. There are many Old Earth creationists.

Excellent content.

This is so stupid. The same argument he uses to say god is truth is the same to say he’s full of 💩!

Sorry folks, there was no logic here.

"Rational thinking is Biblical thinking." HA HA HA HA HA! Proverbs 3:5. "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding."

"Christian logic." Oxymoron. "We know evolution is a fact because bacteria have evolved resistance to antibiotics." Strawman. Nobody claims that is sufficient to establish evolution as a fact. Contract this with "We know the Jesus was God because the Bible says so." "You're just a Christian because you were raised in a Christian home." That's an observation, not an argument. So it is not a fallacy. "The Bible teaches that God causes lightning and rain." Again, that's an observation. Not an argument. Not a fallacy. It's always funny watching Christian apologists pretend to understand logic. Like watching a dog ride a skateboard. You're impressed that they can stay on at all, but ultimately they can only go downhill.

Lisle is a fraud. He uses the language of science to spew bafflegab to gullible people in exchange for their money.

Yes, it's a shame about the audio. Can't bear it.

Carbon dating samples are easily contaminated. Diamonds were never alive so why would anyone try to Carbon date them?

So why did population grow so slowly until recent times? Ever heard of modern medicine?

The bible is like a birth certificate for the world gave me a good laugh since a lot of it is copied from other religions like the Sumerians there is not much to trust about this plagiarised book.

Trees going through multiple layers of geological layers, evidence for only thousands of years old layers

Great message

If God really existed, apologetics would not be necessary.

All these syllogisms were found by the pagan philosopher Aristoteles. A fact that doesn´t stop Lisle to force feed a biblical connection to his audience.

My favorite Pastor!!! With Pastor Jared Melius a VERY close second... 😊😊 God bless these men!!

I came here to listen to Pastor Melius after listening to another great LCMS - Lutheran Pastor, Bryan Wolfmueller. I am so very thankful to God that I was raised in the LCMS church. Yes, we know Genesis 3:15 is the first revelation of salvation; we learn this in Sunday School and it's revisited in our Confirmation studies as young teens. You, Pastor Melius, have broken it down even further than I've ever heard it preached. God bless you for your wisdom in Him. Amen.

Socks with sandals is arbitrary.

Watch AronRa and wake up

It is a shame you do not understand logic or you would realise that it dictates that you are lying.

Thank you Dr. Lisle!! God bless you and your family. To God be all the glory!

Thank you, thank you,thank you Dr lisle!!!! I praise the Lord for your life and the opportunity to learn things I desperately need being married to an evolutionist who has been reading junk for the past 20 years. I still will need a miracle 😀 thank you!

Is it logical to believe a 17th century understanding of The Bible given our present knowledge of nature and science are fundamentally different, and far deeper? One might consider that as we learn about observed nature and evolutionary processes we become better informed as to how to understand the Bible. Assuming that God told the whole of the story to Israelites whose knowledge of the world was limited by the “science” at the time of Mosses would be an error. Contemporary physics indicates that time is not a constant flow, and is indeed accelerating. An epoc (a day), previously comprised a much longer duration than we observe today. In God’s observation is the distinction we make between an epoc and a day significant? Did God build the world in 7 contemporary sized days? One needs to question the simplistic logic of fundamentalists who refuse to acknowledge scientific observations, preferring instead the idea that God didn’t build the system of the world to be internally consistent. Indeed the entire evolutionary story written in Genesis is consistent with the developing evolutionary story observed by man, but only if one understands that scripture is written to be understood to the fullest extent of human comprehension of the natural world God made. Indeed if God wanted the world and it’s entire history could have be made last week in God’s time. For us it would appear to have been created before our parents were born, however God’s timeline is fundamentally different to our own - after all God and Christ are eternal and we are not. So the measure of our day is like God’s day in the same way that that man was made in God’s image: man’s day is made in the image of God’s Day. To what extent we are only just beginning to comprehend.

Lots of praise here perhaps it’s because preaching to the brainwashed , sorry converted

Apparently there is over 5.000 religions worshipped world wide, don’t worry yours is obviously the only right one. ( bit arrogant but let’s move on )what happens to all the innocent children born into the wrong religions

Logic and mathematics are RACIST according to WOKENESS

While the irony throughout this video is comedic the thought that this guy actually believes what he says to be true is extremely sad. Even sadder is many others will follow this path of his.

What about fear of crazy people in pulpits?

"I declare that the laws of logic are dependent on worldview X. I'm not going to show or demonstrate this, I'm just going to assert it over and over again, hoping it'll stick" And of course anyone of any belief system could make this same assertion without any need to demonstrate it, thereby showing Lisle has defeated his own argument.

"logic is indispensable in the field of apologetics." no shit, literally everything based in material reality tells us that your religion is false. Logic is based entirely in the human mind; and while can be used to understand material reality if applied properly, logic(especially logic that disregards material reality) can just as often be used to obfuscate clear discussion in service of deep seeded biases from things like social programming. Easy to say Logic proves god is real when the mindscape from which the arguments and environment those arguments exist in spawn from the mind of the participants who already assume that the answer of God being real is just, true. And as an aside, the idea that god is beyond human thinking is textually absurd. When he ordered all the tribes of Israel to butcher the men and boys of Benjamin while taking all the virginal women and girls as sex slaves for themselves, explicitly ordered by god to do exactly that for that reason with these now conquered women. From the same God that then kills the world for wickedness in Noah's flood. If killing and raping an entire tribe at anybody's behest and told to enjoy it is not wickedness, what is? God's character and moral behaviors change drastically throughout the bible. Maybe God needs to watch this video on logic, eh? EDIT: This guy has no understanding of evolution, or is purposefully misrepresenting it to his audience. We have fossil lines that show transitions from one species to another through time, we have genetic markers that show how closely related different animals are; from different species to entire kingdoms in the tree of life. We have observed bacteria (E. Coli) evolve into 12 different species in the lab over 40 years, including one strain picking up novel features that would be considered irreducibly complex. This guy is either deeply conflicted, or a fucking conman. EDIT 2: Logic as a philosophical practice among Europeans began with the pagan Greeks, and Christian logic is based strongly off of pagan Greek Logic. Thomas Aquinas was quite the fan of Plato and Aristotle. Fuck this guy.

Lisle used false logic to assume men had gone to the moon. The technology was not available ion 1969 and still is not today: ua-cam.com/video/JDqWaxfmbic/v-deo.html

He is trying to put logic in his belief

He says so much stuff and maintains a completely straight face. How is he doing this?

Don't think too much ,you may stray from god.

Logic and the Christian worldview? LOL Sure, the worldview that says an undetectable, invisible, immortal, eternal sky wizard did what earlier Greek Mythology says that Zeus did, and fathered a child with a human woman: and the child was his own father, who was sacrificed to himself to appease the one part of himself by the death of the other part of himself, even though that other part of himself didn't actually die.

All three opening statements have evidence to support them. They are not logical fallacies. Demonstrate how you know there is a god to think and that the god you know of thinks. How do you know that god decides anything, let alone correct thinking. How do you know that god has a mine when you haven't even demonstrated that god is real. Belief in god is not based on evidence or reason, only superstition. I only believe there is a chance of life on other planets. How do you know it's not possible to have two all powerful beings. What do you base this assertion on. Since you haven't demonstrated that god is real, how can you know that god is rational. An assertion from the bible is not evidence and adds nothing to your claims, except another baseless assertion. How do you know god gave us anything, let alone reasoning. Without evidence for heaven, believing anything will get you into heaven is a logical fallacy. Belief without evidence is illogical. Faith is belief without evidence thus faith is illogical. Show me the error in reason with this. The bible has been demonstrated to be fallible. It describes the world as flat with a skydome, both are false. Without compelling evidence for god, you also have no evidence that god causes the natural forces in the universe. Sunrise and sunset are the result of physics, no god has been demonstrated to have anything to do with that. Bacteria developing resistance to antibiotics requires a change to the genetics of the bacteria which is an example of evolution, thus evolution is true. The way the word evolution in that sentence is valid. It has been demonstrated that most people who belong to a religion grew up in that religion. Creation only has claims, no compelling evidence to support it and thus it is not science so science has no basis in creation. If god is beyond time and god is not made up of atoms then how can god have any affect on the reality that we currently inhabit. Your claim that if the universe is only energy and matter then the laws of logic can't exist is false since the laws of logic apply to energy and matter. I have rejected all god claims because no god claims have presented any compelling evidence. In my "heart of hearts" I know of no god that exists because no god has presented compelling evidence that they exist. Show me how it is logical that all of reality was just "poofed" into existence by a god. It is more reasonable to accept that since energy and matter can't be created or destroyed, all the matter and energy in the universe has always been here in one form or another. Remember that strawman fallacy you mentioned, you just committed it. The laws of logic exist all throughout the universe, not just in our brains. Since I have never believed that it is a product of our brains you have misrepresented me. No compelling evidence for the "spirit" has ever been found. Laws of logic are a description of how the universe works. The statement, "a proposition has the opposite value of its negation" does not describe an aspect of the universe until you apply it to the universe. Light is the opposite of no light. That applies to the universe. How can you demonstrate that a god is necessary for the laws of logic to exist. No part of the laws of logic support god. Show me the passage in the bible that proves this wrong and the evidence that supports it. Omnipresence contradicts the laws of logic. You can't be in two places at once. How do I know that the laws of logic work anywhere in the universe, I don't. But so far they have worked everywhere that they have been tested, and until they can be demonstrated not to work it is reasonable to believe that they will work anywhere in the universe. I've already made a good argument against scripture. Earth is not flat and does not have a dome over it. When did god reveal himself to man and how did man know it was god.

The laws of logic don't stem from the nature of God, they are necessary abstract concepts that couldn't be any other way. Let's take the law of identity for example, A=A, a thing is what it is and not what it is not. What makes this a Law of Logic is that things cannot be otherwise, It's impossible for something to not be what it is. That this is so stands on it's own, the impossibility for things to be otherwise is what grounds this and make it a law. No God is needed for this to be true.

Word for today. 1st Timothy Chapter 6:7-12 7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. 8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. 9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses... Amen. Isaiah 54-17 God's word for his people who believe .. [17] No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD... JESUS Matthew 6:33-34 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble Amen .🙂

Lol

The problem with Lisle's claim of Christian ownership of logic is that it can be used to defend ownership of logic by any religion or world view that believes and values logic.

Psalm 236:1.23-24.10-12.13-15

Exodus 12:37-42

Which is their due (whatever is owned to them

A beautiful church. God Beyond All Praising.

Thank you for sharing your wisdom on logic and rationality I believe God gave us the ability to reason by creating us in His image I intend to use much of your library to help me with my attempt to be a better apologist God bless you and keep publishing!

Wonderful! ♥

Thank you so much! This was enjoyable to listen to & explained some things I’ve heard before but a simpler way that I could understand more easily… altogether resulting in a deeper appreciation of God and His beautiful creation…😊❤

God bless Dr Lisle. I'm so grateful for his apologetic gifts.

Love Jason and his ministry but he himself has not used the laws of logic pertaining to the moon landings. I only bring this up because he brings up the moon landings everywhere he speaks.