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"Rhyme science" is just a silly joke, you're all good. I do feel like the words' stresses can't be the whole picture, given Batman doesn't rhyme with Owlman, nor Superman with Spider-Man. You could also just say "Superman" in an unconventional way, where you held onto the "Su" part for longer and then said the "perman" part faster, the same way you say "Batman" -- and they still don't rhyme. At least to my ears.

​@@Chimmaney Yeah, I understood it was a joke. I meant I don't know what the actual rules are for the English language so it could be different from the rules that I know. But I haven't said stressed syllables are the only rule. It's the most important to resolve your doubt of why those two words don't rhyme. First you find the stressed syllable, with it you get the number or syllables that are relevant to analyze if they rhyme or don't. If the numbers don't match they can't rhyme but they don't rhyme every time they match. I guess this thing is more common to look up in Spanish as we have words with more syllables and different positions of the stress meanwhile in English most of the words only have one or two and the stress is usually in the first syllable.

​@@ChimmaneyI might be just trippin but Spider-Man and Superman doesn't feel like it rhymes (though me personally I can't see it as such) because the vowels from the stress till the last syllable has to be somewhag similar? Like Spider-Man and Spy per Man rhymes; Superman and Future man does (kinda??) Though this doesnt consider the op TO metrist - psy CHI atrist thing but ig the last two syllables rhyme so ig that mediates things eh idk im just having a dumb thought

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@Chimmaney Look im just not watching a video the premise of which is that two words that rhyme dont rhyme. Its like saying water and oil cant both be liquids because they dont mix. Psychiatrist and optometrist feel like better rhymes because they have the same syllable count and in 99% of american accents rhyme on the last two syllables not just one. Sigh-kai-uh-trist Op-tom-muh-trist Im sure you get to that (or you dont idk idc) but if you even have the thought of superman and batman not rhyming thats something that shouldve been dealt with in like sophomore year

@@leaffinite2001 Why are you MORE hostile than the staff currently trying to remove me from this high school english class? This makes no sense. I didn't even invade your high school english class.

That's a very interesting point, but I'm not sure that's the reason these don't rhyme here. Batman also doesn't rhyme with Hawkman, nor Superman with Spider-Man, and those words have the exact same stresses. You could also say the word "Superman" using stresses that the word wouldn't usually have, like "Su-perman", holding the "Su" and saying the "perman" fast, to make it match the way you say Batman -- but that doesn't rhyme with Batman either, unless you're doing a Batman/Hatman and pronouncing it like "Su-pahman" and "bahman".

Thank you! Very kind.

But then what the hell's going on with "human" and "woman"?? They only rhyme if you go "woo-min". There's no way the "man" in those words is being seen as its own word, but "hyu-min" and "wuh-min" don't rhyme. Mad.

@Chimmaney The internet etymology resources say that "woman" comes from "wif" + "man" with the man part evolving from human so there is that.

@@Chimmaney Not that smart when it comes to rhymes but maybe the overall sound of the word needs to rhyme. Lecherous and Humorous don't rhyme for example. Optometrist and Psychiatrist have the same 2 sounding syllables at the end that sound the same, unlike woman and human.

@thaliafilm I would actually say lecherous and humorous DO rhyme, personally. "Don't be, so lecherous. Try being, humorous." Hard to convey a rhythm through text, but hopefully you can read that the way I "hear" it. But also, they both end in an "o-russ" sound, so it's the same two ending syllables again. A better example that the last two syllables don't necessarily need to rhyme would be unconscious/triumphant. "Now you are, unconscious, and the enemy, is triumphant." This works even though "con" and "um", the second last syllables, don't rhyme. Someone could say it's because the two words have a similar "flow", which Batman and Superman don't have, but that can be solved by just pronouncing it like "Su - perman" -- holding onto the "Su" and then saying "perman" faster -- and I would say this still doesn't rhyme with Batman. "I need help, I'll call Su - perman. I think I would, settle for - Batman." To me, those KIND OF rhyme, but only if you pronounce the "perman" like "pahman" and the "Bat" like "bah" -- which is like Batman/Hatman again. "Nice Suit" rhyming with "White Suit". A good example of why this doesn't rhyme unless you do something like that is: "I need help, I'll call Su - perman. I think I would, settle for - Owlman." Which still feels a little off and like it doesn't rhyme to me. That might be because you can't easily stretch "Owl" to sound like "per", and might be because I just need to sit with it a while before deciding that it actually does rhyme. Right now, though, it doesn't feel like it does.

Huh? Did my response get deleted?

The same is true of "computer" and "shooter", but they rhyme. Having different syllable counts doesn't stop words from rhyming.

@@Chimmaney Fair point

⁠@@Chimmaney In Superman there’s 2 syllables in the part that doesn’t rhyme. In computer there is only one, instead it’s the RYMING part that has 2 syllables and in shooter it’s the whole word that rhymes. Shooter and computer are nothing like Superman and Batman.

@Jessica18010 Sure, but if you needed to show someone that different-syllable words could still rhyme, then it would be a pretty good example.

@Jessica18010@@Chimmaney 'Comp-uter' and 'sh-ooter' have similar cadences, whereas 'sup-er-man' and 'bat-man' don't. They aren't strictly grammatical syllables per se, but lyrically 'computer' and 'shooter' do have the same amount of syllables. As I was about to hit 'Reply' I see @PuppetSquid state what I think is what I'm trying to say, but maybe better.

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I would say that optometrist and psychiatrist DO rhyme, but also they both end in an "a-trist" sound, so that doesn't break your idea. You might be onto something, I need to think if there's an example that breaks it.

Had some sleep, thought about it, remembered the darkness/blackness example I used in this video. And Big Dan/Batman, when Big Man/Batman doesn't work. But the rhyme is definitely MUCH stronger and more reliable when it's something like private/riot, with multiple rhyming syllables. Batman/Superman might be a combination of a weaker one-syllable rhyme with also hearing "man" as its own word on some level. So "Bat Tan" has a soft rhyme with Superman, but "Batman" is just too far.

spitting from the heart (stab wound, bleeding out)

Ye, Harvey Dent is the Batman villain Two-Face.

@ okay, thanks. I got the game for free and decided to play it, it’s pretty darn good but I don’t have the others, I need to research Batman more

It’s sort of a back story for Harvey, he’s the rat king but he doesn’t know it, he kinda becomes two face

Sorry but that's not what happened penguin revealed in the audio logs unlocked by solving the riddler thropys that it happened in a bar fight

Nope, some guy got so mad at him he jammed a broken bottle into his eye and when he was inspected by a doctor it was revealed the removal of the bottle would actually kill him. Also fun fact the guy that jammed the bottle in there got both his eyes removed by the penguin!

No, I heard in some audio that Victor zzaz did. I'm not sure actually

It was Victor Zsasz, actually. The Penguin cheated on a poker game that he and Zsasz were playing, which caused Victor to lose all his family's fortune. After that, Zsasz snapped and attacked the Penguin with a bottle. You can hear Zsasz talk about that during his secondary mission where you need to locate his telephone calls.