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BenSucksAtPingPong
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Welcome to BenSucksAtPingPong! 🏓
Join me on my journey from being mediocre to mastering ping pong. Watch as I chronicle my progress, sharing game highlights, points, struggles, and triumphs. I'm sick of sucking at table tennis and would love your interaction, feedback, and tips to help me get better!
I update my unique ranking system based on a modified Colley matrix before and after each game, so you can see my progress in real-time. My rankings will show my improvements and setbacks, making the journey more exciting and engaging.
If the ranking has changed without a video being recorded, it most likely means I played a match with a kid without the permission to post the video.
Subscribe to follow my ping pong adventures, learn with me, and let's build a supportive community of ping pong/Table Tennis enthusiasts!
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Join me on my journey from being mediocre to mastering ping pong. Watch as I chronicle my progress, sharing game highlights, points, struggles, and triumphs. I'm sick of sucking at table tennis and would love your interaction, feedback, and tips to help me get better!
I update my unique ranking system based on a modified Colley matrix before and after each game, so you can see my progress in real-time. My rankings will show my improvements and setbacks, making the journey more exciting and engaging.
If the ranking has changed without a video being recorded, it most likely means I played a match with a kid without the permission to post the video.
Subscribe to follow my ping pong adventures, learn with me, and let's build a supportive community of ping pong/Table Tennis enthusiasts!
If you want a copy of the spreadsheet I use, or if you want me to manage your sheet for you ($5 a month) just send me a message!
Let's Play!
Long Pips Challenges & Playing Through Discomfort 🏓😅 Match 16 vs Logan
This video features my 16th match against Logan, who’s moved back to using long pips. I was testing a few strategies in this match, especially focusing on countering his long pips’ reverse spin. When the pips didn’t add spin, I tried overpowering the deadspin with high racket speed, but it didn’t work as well as I’d hoped. Still, I stuck to my plan to see how it would play out.
Here’s something you don’t hear often: Toward the end of the match, I really needed to use the restroom but decided to play through it without calling a timeout. Did it affect my play? Yes-it slowed me down, kept me from getting lower, and made me prone to rushing, but that’s not an excuse. Lesson learned: just call the timeout!
Aside from that, my backhand had a tough time throughout the match, even though there were a few cool shots in there. Overall, it wasn’t my best showing for my backhand game.
If you've ever played through similar challenges or have tips for adjusting to long pips, let me know in the comments!
0:00 - Start of Table Tennis Match and Player Stat Cards:
1:17 - Start of Game 2
3:16 - Start of Game 3
5:46 - Start of Game 4
8:07 - Start of Game 5
10:11 - End of Table Tennis Match and Updated Player Stat Cards
Why Subscribe?
Long Pips Strategy: Watch how I adjust to Logan’s return to long pips and try different approaches.
Honest Moments: Get a real look at the challenges players face, including playing through discomfort.
Match Analysis: Learn from the highs and lows of my backhand play and my deadspin counter-strategies.
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Here’s something you don’t hear often: Toward the end of the match, I really needed to use the restroom but decided to play through it without calling a timeout. Did it affect my play? Yes-it slowed me down, kept me from getting lower, and made me prone to rushing, but that’s not an excuse. Lesson learned: just call the timeout!
Aside from that, my backhand had a tough time throughout the match, even though there were a few cool shots in there. Overall, it wasn’t my best showing for my backhand game.
If you've ever played through similar challenges or have tips for adjusting to long pips, let me know in the comments!
0:00 - Start of Table Tennis Match and Player Stat Cards:
1:17 - Start of Game 2
3:16 - Start of Game 3
5:46 - Start of Game 4
8:07 - Start of Game 5
10:11 - End of Table Tennis Match and Updated Player Stat Cards
Why Subscribe?
Long Pips Strategy: Watch how I adjust to Logan’s return to long pips and try different approaches.
Honest Moments: Get a real look at the challenges players face, including playing through discomfort.
Match Analysis: Learn from the highs and lows of my backhand play and my deadspin counter-strategies.
🔔 Subscribe for more table tennis content, match breakdowns, and progress updates: UA-cam.com/@BenSucksAtPingPong
👍 Like, comment, and share if you’ve ever faced unexpected challenges in a match!
📅 New videos almost daily-stay tuned for more action!
#TableTennisMatch #TableTennis #PingPong #BenSucksAtPingPong #LongPipsChallenge #DeadspinStrategy #PlayingThroughIt #BackhandStruggles #GameAnalysis #MatchBreakdown #LearningAndGrowing #PlayerDevelopment #CompetitivePlay #PingPongJourney #LoganVsMe #HonestMoments #TimeoutLesson
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High-Risk Shots, Push Footwork & Forehand Block Struggles 🏓Latest Match vs Kelvin
Переглядів 512 години тому
This video shows my latest match against Kelvin, and I’m happy it was as close as it was. However, I’ve pinpointed a few key issues: 1. High-Risk Shots: I took some unnecessary, high-risk backhand loops late in the games, shots that I rarely hit successfully. Why did I do them? I honestly don’t know! 2. Hyperfocused Push Footwork: I realized during this game that I wasn’t paying enough attentio...
Facing Nate’s Immaculate Spin Deception! Outmatched So I Let Loose and Did Better 🏓🔥
Переглядів 644 години тому
A new player, Nate, showed up at the club, and this match was an exciting challenge for me! Not only did I go in without knowing what to expect, but once I realized I was outmatched, I decided to let go and play without overthinking-a great lesson for sure. Nate’s serves were tough to handle, packed with a LOT of spin and incredible spin deception. I learned quickly that I need to stop being so...
Rare Win Against Hardbat Master Jim! 🏓🔥Epic Battle vs Jim: Deuce Thriller in Game 5
Переглядів 667 годин тому
Just played an intense match against Jim, an incredible hardbat player known for his attacking skills and precise placement, especially on wide angles. I knew I had to be extremely vigilant for this one-Jim dominates many players at the club, and I’ve never beaten him in my life… until now! This was my second match of the day and possibly his as well, as he only plays a few matches each session...
New Rubber Debut Match vs Joseph! Adjusting & Learning with a Surprise Outcome 🏓🔥
Переглядів 637 годин тому
My new rubber debut kicks off with a match against Joseph! I was focused on three key areas: 1 - Getting used to the new rubber on both sides (I switched back to my red side with thicker sponge), 2 - Attacking first, and 3 - Taking away Joseph’s attack. Surprisingly, my pushes were decent, even though I wasn’t consciously focusing on them. Later in the club session, after a misstep, I realized ...
Step-by-Step Guide: How I Replaced My Paddle Rubber with Xiom Omega VII Europe! 🏓
Переглядів 5812 годин тому
In this video, I’m switching things up! Instead of a match, I’m demonstrating how I put a new Xiom Omega VII Europe rubber on my paddle’s red side. Many people recommended this upgrade, and I decided to wait until after the tournament to make the switch. I needed to replace it anyway due to a tear, but didn’t want to adjust to a whole new rubber right before competing! Here’s the step-by-step o...
Hardbat Battle with Wide Attacks & Blown Leads! 🏓🔥14th Match vs Leanne
Переглядів 17321 годину тому
Just played my 14th match against Leanne, a really skilled hardbat player, and focused on three main goals: 1 - Attacking first, 2 - Hitting at the right height, and 3 - Blocking her attacks better. I managed to get two strong leads in a couple of games, but Leanne expertly fought back, attacking my angles and taking away my chances for a win. My blocks weren’t as successful as I’d hoped, but I...
Seeking Redemption & A Thrilling Deuce Battle! 🏓🔥5th Match vs Joseph
Переглядів 105День тому
In my 5th match against Joseph, I came in seeking redemption after he swept me in our last encounter. This time, I focused on three main areas: 1 - Limiting his attacks (as he’s a fast, aggressive player), 2 - Better blocking, and 3 - Improving my pushes. Overall, I felt pretty good about my performance. However, reviewing the footage, I noticed my footwork slipped in a few key moments, especia...
Working on Serve Placement, Push Footwork & New Strategies! 🏓6th Match Against Kelvin
Переглядів 181День тому
In my 6th match with Kelvin, I focused on three key areas to improve my game: 1 - Serve placement (again!), 2 - Push footwork (to keep my right foot forward instead of behind or lateral), and 3 - Push placements to limit Kelvin's strong attacks. Before the match, Kelvin and I discussed some new strategies he’s been working on. He’s preparing for an event about a year away and focusing on loosen...
Working on New Serve Placement & Struggling with Rhythm 🏓Post-Tournament Match vs Dallas
Переглядів 10014 днів тому
Fresh off the tournament, I played my first match against Dallas, hoping to ride the momentum from my recent success. I wanted to try something new, so I practiced my serves at home, focusing on placement. In this match, my goal was to place all my serves in the 4 corners of my opponent’s side while still varying the spin. Introducing these new serves resulted in a higher error rate than usual,...
Huge Upset & Close Finish 🏓🔥Epic 5-Game Table Tennis Tournament Battle vs U1500 Champion Josh
Переглядів 16214 днів тому
In the group play event, I had a really tough draw against Josh, the U1500 champion. He’s a strong defensive player with an unusual but highly effective grip, and I’ve never beaten him before-so this was an intense 5-game battle! I started out playing well, but I made some critical mistakes, especially by not sticking to my game plan of attacking first. In the first game, I pushed a long foreha...
Focused Play & Tough Battle in U1800 Tournament! 🏓🔥Group Play vs Leanne | Provo Canyon Table Tennis
Переглядів 15114 днів тому
I competed in the Provo Canyon Table Tennis tournament last Saturday, playing in the U1800 tournament. The format was group play, where the top two advanced to a single-elimination bracket. In my first group match, I faced Leanne, a hardbat player from Orem Table Tennis, and someone I’m very familiar with. We’ve had some close matches, but I’ve yet to beat her. She was the highest seed in our g...
U1500 Tournament Match vs Shiva! Great Rallies & A Tough Loss 🏓🔥
Переглядів 21114 днів тому
This match from the Provo Canyon Table Tennis U1500 tournament weekend features Shiva and me-we've never played before, and it was an exciting one! The tournament format was group play, and the top 2 in each group advanced to a single-elimination bracket. I won my group, but I didn’t record those matches as they were against talented kids (I only record matches with my own kids). This was my fi...
From Winning Streak to Sweep! Joseph’s Attack Style Took Me Down! 🏓😅
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From Winning Streak to Sweep! Joseph’s Attack Style Took Me Down! 🏓😅
Shaking Off the Cobwebs vs Michael O’s Antispin! Can I Bounce Back? 🏓💥
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Shaking Off the Cobwebs vs Michael O’s Antispin! Can I Bounce Back? 🏓💥
Feeling Rusty in My 6th Match Against Eric! Last Club Day Before the Tournament 🏓😬
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Feeling Rusty in My 6th Match Against Eric! Last Club Day Before the Tournament 🏓😬
Caught on Camera: My Craziest Table Tennis Shots, Points and Rallies! #5 🏓😎
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Caught on Camera: My Craziest Table Tennis Shots, Points and Rallies! #5 🏓😎
Top Shots Compilation # 4! Lucky Shots, Crazy Nets, & Epic Game Enders! 🏓🔥
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Top Shots Compilation # 4! Lucky Shots, Crazy Nets, & Epic Game Enders! 🏓🔥
My Top Table Tennis Shots #3: Slams, Edges, & Lucky, Undeserved Blocks
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My Top Table Tennis Shots #3: Slams, Edges, & Lucky, Undeserved Blocks
Blown Lead against Terry! Finally a Close Match | Intense Rally, Deuce Battle & Spinny Serves! 🏓🔥
Переглядів 14728 днів тому
Blown Lead against Terry! Finally a Close Match | Intense Rally, Deuce Battle & Spinny Serves! 🏓🔥
My Top Table Tennis Shots #2. Even I Get Lucky Sometimes with Nets, Slams, & Rallies! 🏓🔥
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My Top Table Tennis Shots #2. Even I Get Lucky Sometimes with Nets, Slams, & Rallies! 🏓🔥
Closest Match Yet! How I Took On Jun’s ‘Unreturnable Serve’ in Table Tennis! 🏓😲
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Closest Match Yet! How I Took On Jun’s ‘Unreturnable Serve’ in Table Tennis! 🏓😲
Top Shots Compilation! My Best Table Tennis Moments from Day 1! 🏓🔥
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Top Shots Compilation! My Best Table Tennis Moments from Day 1! 🏓🔥
Penhold Player Challenge! How I Worked on My Attacks Against Kathleen! 🏓🔥
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Penhold Player Challenge! How I Worked on My Attacks Against Kathleen! 🏓🔥
Leanne Taught Me an Incredible Table Tennis Lesson in Our 12th Match! 🏓💥
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Leanne Taught Me an Incredible Table Tennis Lesson in Our 12th Match! 🏓💥
You Won’t Believe What Happened to the Butterfly Tenergy 5 in This Table Tennis Match!
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You Won’t Believe What Happened to the Butterfly Tenergy 5 in This Table Tennis Match!
Mid-Game Adjustments That Helped Me Beat Dominic’s Table Tennis Skills!
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Mid-Game Adjustments That Helped Me Beat Dominic’s Table Tennis Skills!
Making Progress! How I Improved Against Jenny’s Aggressive Play 🏓💪
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Making Progress! How I Improved Against Jenny’s Aggressive Play 🏓💪
Too Many High Returns! My Struggle to Stop Jenny’s Attacks in Table Tennis! 🏓
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Too Many High Returns! My Struggle to Stop Jenny’s Attacks in Table Tennis! 🏓
New Technique Backfires! My Struggle Against Kelvin’s Aggressive Table Tennis Play! 🏓
Переглядів 95Місяць тому
New Technique Backfires! My Struggle Against Kelvin’s Aggressive Table Tennis Play! 🏓
Any stronger spin will override the spin that's on the ball. Otherwise you have to account for the spin. But really... you need to develop your own serves, yours are super weak. Serves don't need to be deceptive, just strong in their pace, spin (or no spin), and placement, so you can play the point your way on the return. The better you will be at serves - the better overall play will be as well. Also I see very poor anticipation and footwork, you are not getting to the ball/into a position.
One thing I definitely have had hammered into me is that my serve isn't to win an ace - it's to predict an outcome in my favor. It needs to be hit by my opponent to favorably play into my strength. Is it a topspin loop attack? Maybe. So a sidespin top to their forehand to go to my forehand. Since my backspin loop is my weakest shot, I shouldn't use it that much until it's developed.
That was good, especially considering the opponent is playing pretty wild and unpredictable AND has long pips to boot. Just go to the loo next time. You can't keep track of the spin of the ball when your mind is spinning around your balls.
Isn't that the truth! Gotta just go!
What I see in this match, is: 1. High risk shots aren't a problem at all, you already lose basically every point on serve or on serve receive. Nothing afterwards matters in any way. 2. As lt.kettch mentioned, you're not supposed to / can't focus on stuff like footwork during a match anyways. 3. Forehand blocks aren't a problem at all, the actual blocks you can hit during this match are phenomenal. When you don't manage to block, it isn't the block's fault - you already lost the point beforehand, the predetermined result just happened to fully manifest when coincidentially you also happened to try and play a block. 4. Kelvin doesn't have a 3rd ball attack pattern. In this match, you have a pattern of not just enabling, but basically encouraging him to attack you every time you touch the ball, by both placement and length of your shots. When he serves he can attack on 3rd ball since you touched the 2nd ball. When you serve he attacks the 2nd ball because you touched the 1st. He does nothing to encourage you to do this. He does not have a special tactic or spin that would set up a 3rd ball attack from him. 5. Kelvin wasn't in control of this match, you were. He was just reacting to you. To win this (unless Kelvin is holding back), you don't have to pay any attention to Kelvin at all - he took no decisions or actions that were any relevant to the outcome of this match, except making a ton of unforced errors to give you some points for free. If you see any patterns in him, that means that you have a pattern in you that he always reacts the same to. So you first need to pay attention to your own patterns. I think that'll level up your game way more and easier. How to begin fixing it: -------------------------- Terminology: "long" = a shot that bounces once on the opponents side of the table before crossing the endline. "short" = a shot that bounces three times or more on the opponents table before crossing the endline. "half-long" = a shot that bounces exactly twice on the opponents side of the table, the second bouce ideally being close to the endline. -------------------------- I do recommend that in the next match, and training leading up to the next match (no matter the opponent), you focus on these things: A) If you serve, always fully focus on your serve being half-long. Never long or short. A2) Whenever you push, always fully focus on your push being half-long. Never long or short. B) Whenever you counter or attack, always fully focus on placing it on the centerline of the table, preferably long, close to the end of the table. During match, only focus on the above. Practice footwork only if it's necessary to help you play half-long, or aim attacks down to middle. Only focus on length when serving or pushing for now, you can place it left/right/middle however you feel best in the moment. (When you watch this match, you can see that your placements in this match are the anti-patterns to these "recommended" patterns: - You always serve long to his forehand side, enabling him to easily attack all the serves, since he LOVES attacking long balls with his forehand. - Kelvin always serves diagonally to your backhand, you again almost always receive long to his forehand side, despite this not being necessary or easier than just pushing back diagonally. Again, long forehand = he LOVES it and easily attacks every one of your receives. - When you manage to attack on your own, you almost always place it diagonally to this forehand side, which you can see him anticipate easily every time, because its highly repetitive. Whenever you accidentially play to the centerline, you make the point. (This is not unique to Kelvin, every player except maybe penholder players (or Leanne...) will have the most trouble with placement at the center of their side. The corners are really easy to react to and only effective if you play extreme angles / risk a lot or have moved them out of position before.)
A+ phenomenal comment and you're right. Thank you so much for the great analysis. I definitely was in control of this, and I have a few 'backyard' matches I can play at work and really practice these serves and returns. I'll almost exclusively try to aim with these distances and shot selections. It should really help to take away the attack. There are a few people I know who really struggle with a fast, long serve - especially if it's dead, but they aren't Kelvin. I still might keep those serves in my back pocket. I'm glad you called me out for mis-seeing a pattern in Kelvin. It's something I'm still struggling with is my game planning and adjusting. Sometimes I feel like I'm just serving/shooting just to see what works, and sometimes I feel my opponents are adjusting way faster than me - and sometimes I feel like I may see something they're doing and then they stop. Was that just a phantasm or a strategy? Yeah, probably. And if it was, ultimately, them winning is my fault.
Wow... What kind of crazy ping pong deathmatch club are you a part of where a timeout is required to use the bathroom when there's a need??? 😮 He didn't let you go even after the match was over 😂 Even though your BH felt off, you FH seemed to be doing well. Given the situation, you didn't do too poorly. With regards to losing the lead in game 4, I think a timeout would have helped; try to arrest his momentum. Relying more on your FH over your BH because it was showing to be more consistent. Taking advantage of the innate properties of long pips: the inability to significantly impart spin, predictable spin reversals, difficulty attacking short/low balls. Also taking advantage of the fact that most pips players try to receive serves with their pips side, sometimes even at the cost of positional advantage. Lastly... call time and go to the restroom...
See the problem with this advice is that it makes total sense. When you gotta go rational thinking leaves. That's when the whipping guards force us back to play until they say we can stop. There is a reason the Orem club is free.
@BenSucksAtPingPong My conspiracy theory is that there are piezoelectric generators under the floor and they sell that electricity for income, ergo the forced play, enforced by whips
Well that explains the power plant thingy across the street. Orem Club: 40.311143683950654, -111.65889641911721 Spooky Electricity Factory: 40.31216874474083, -111.65645385583257
I think your observation for point 2 is correct... Ideally, a player would focus on one aspect of their game during training and it will manifest naturally during gameplay. Diverting too much attention to any one thing (except maybe watching the contact point during an opponent's serve?) will probably slow a player down to their detriment. For now, just play relaxed and try to implement broader strategies (be more aggressive vs adjust your paddle angle to 35.75353° when looping).
Yeah, I can very much see that was the case. I'll keep my laser levels and protractors at home from now on. I'm starting to get some 'looks'.
@BenSucksAtPingPong let me know if you're ever in the OC. We'll find somewhere to practice and you can bust out your tools and high speed cameras 😁
There is a 50/50 chance I'll be in Long Beach in January, actually! I might have to take you up on that.
Not much you could do but good job hanging in there! Something to study: Watch the way he accelerates his paddle on contact during serves. Even though the motion is small, there's good acceleration which translates to good spin. A lot of people get distracted by the ball toss during the serve. Keep your attention on the opponent's paddle and watch for subtle motions during contact. Is contact early and cutting down? Is it late and pulling up? Is the contact at 6 o clock (directly under the ball, pure backspin) or at 3 o clock (almost completely sidespin) or somewhere in between? There are 2 general ways to deal with sidespin: go against the spin or go with the spin With regards to serves, it's easier to return short if you go with the spin. For long returns, it's fine to use either. For example, if the serve is a regular pendulum serve, contact is on the right from your pov and looks like it's spinning clockwise from top down view. Going with the spin means brushing to the left (clockwise), similar to the concept of loop in a backspin, but sideways. To be honest, this is my preferred way of dealing with sidespin and it feels easier for me to control the position of the ball. Going against the spin in this situation is hitting on the *right* (edit: correction) side of the ball, using blade angle to mitigate the effect of the spin. This is like playing topspin vs topspin. If you block a topspin ball, it'll want to jump off your paddle, just like a pendulum serve makes the ball want to jump off your paddle to the right from your pov. Nate seems like a good player, one of the best I've seen on your channel at least in terms of service quality. To be honest, he wasn't playing to his full ability so I'm just estimating based on the quality of his serves, his footwork, the mechanics of his swing, and the way he reacts to your good attacks. That being said, I don't think his level is too much out of reach for you.
I was once told that if it's pure sidespin, topspin has the ability to cancel out the sidespin no matter what (if you loop it.) Is that correct? And yeah, I could tell he was messing with me - and he wasn't playing 100%. That's why I was like: "Okay, let's just give him something he's not expecting" - and I just went all out. I threw out all consequences.
@@BenSucksAtPingPong man... UA-cam keeps deleting my comment. I guess they don't want people to know if topspin can cancel out backspin... I'll try to repost...
Agree with the observations in your description: quality of the pushes were generally good, overall play was a little too passive. If you watch some of your recent games vs Joseph, you did better when you were asserting controlled aggression. Ideally, you can finish the point before he gets the chance to attack. Something I noticed, your pushes were losing quality starting the middle/late of game 2 and was on and off during game 3. It looked like you were trying to be more aggressive game 3 but was vacillating between attacking and pushing into the late game, causing you to hesitate for a split second, showing you down. If your going to try to change the tempo, commit and go for it! Remember to favor hitting forward (sometime forward and a little down) instead of brushing the high balls. Your black side looks like it could use a cleaning ha ha. I can see the sweet spot in the middle of the rubber was a different sheen than the rest of the rubber. Remember to maintain your rubber between games and after sessions to keep as much consistency as possible! Try to hit through or brush over the top of those spinny high arc FHs early in the bounce. A patient block is (as you've experienced) going to fly off the table. When you see him wind up and pull back, it's going to be a lot spinner than usual! You got some good attacks in when you committed, be courageous and attack!
Completely correct, and actually, I'm not sure if my black side needs cleaning - it was cleaned right before this match! (As I clean it before every match.) I actually think it needs replacing. It's fairly old now, and it might be time to retire it. (I might even get some retribution on my near-botched rubber replacement I recently did.) This definitely was a timid game, for sure. I needed to come out swinging and I didn't go with my game plan at all. Thanks for the amazing tips, as always!
Remember to "pull" with the BH when you're closer to the table. A lot of misses were because of too much "hit". Remember to slow down before you serve. Lots more unforced errors and lets than usual. Decide when your first bounce will be based on where you want your second bounce to be. Better offense compared to the game with Joseph (comments are turned off for that video btw). When you block fast attacks, try not to add force and hit it, rather, try to gently "guide" the ball back. Lastly, be careful not to get pulled into your opponent's pace. Overall, nice game, hopefully more wins as you get more comfortable with the stuff you're working on!
Ahh!! Good catch! Comments back on! (I know what I did - I messed with the moderation settings). Lots of really, really great points here. I definitely feel like I rushed this match, and I know why. It's not an excuse, but it was totally me. Good point on the blocks. See, I might have the 'guide' confused. What I try to do with blocks (and I know I miss this a lot in the heat of the moment - I really do this only when I set up a hard hit from my opponent, which ALSO isn't wise) is do a regular hit, but not as 'much.' Like a 1/4 hit instead. The 'guiding' hit I can get around as a block to switch how I think about it. And yeah, I FREQUENTLY get pulled into an opponents pace. Was it that obvious?
@BenSucksAtPingPong I don't know if it's obvious per se... Maybe it's because I've been watching you play for a while now. Plus, it's something that most people have to work on.
======================================== 3rd ball attacks ======================================== Player: attempts (successful) --- set 1 --- Joseph: 4 (2) Ben: 1 (1) --- set 2 --- Joseph: 5 (4) Ben: 0 --- set 3 --- Joseph: 3 (2) Ben: 2 (1) 3rd ball attacks total: Joseph: 12 with a success rate of 66%, out of 26 serves, took initiative/control on 46.1% of their own serves Ben: 3 with a success rate of 66%, out of 24 serves, took initiative/control on 12.5% of their own serves 5th ball attacks in total (only occurred in 1st set): Joseph: 2 with a a success rate of 50% Ben: none How successful were the players in using their service advantage to set up an attack opportunity, and how often did they capitalize on it? - Both players have the same potentially match-winning success rate when being aggressive (making a point with 66% likelyhood on attempt is clearly a winning move), so the player who simply only attempts this move more often is likely to score more points and hence the match. - For both players, the success rate per set is never lower than 50%, so none of them could possibly lose a set by playing this move every time. - Joseph executes this move with 400% the attempt rate of Ben, with more attempts than Ben in every single set. - If a safety push was played on the 3rd ball (which is frequent and entirely normal / okay on this level) Joseph is infinitely more likely to retry gaining the initiative on 5th ball. If Ben doesn't attack on 3rd ball, he never attacks (or gets another opportunity to) again. - Ben plays an entire set without ever even attempting to attack on his own serve once (New rubbers are no excuse, you can't learn them if you don't even attempt to attack with them once.)
Exceptional analysis and I thank you so much for it! It actually does give my quite a bit of hope. In my next match against Joseph, I need to attack way more early - pretty much knowing I'll have more of a success against him. You're exactly right - I can't learn it if I don't use it. I was way too much focused on trying to take away an attack or at least BLOCK an attack, but what's the point in that? I shouldn't HAVE to block if I don't give him the opportunity to give me an attack shot in the first place. Thanks for this - this was an exceptional analysis.
This was painful to watch. My 2 cents: 1. Instead of 50 ml Free Chack (or any other "table tennis glue" by any other brand), you can get a 1000ml bottle of Liquid Latex for the same price, ya know the milky-white natural sap of the rubber tree. It's literally the exact same stuff. 2. Try to "clean" your glasses by rubbing your hands/fingers all over them instead of using a microfiber cloth. That's what you are doing to.your blade. You're just giving it a thick anti-stick coating of skin-protecting fat, symbiotic bacteria and dead skin particles, and the glue won't stick well to that peculiar human/wood composite material. Trust me, been there done that. Just use some dry kitchen paper instead. 3. Wet glueing is not the intended way to use that... you're meant to let all the water evaporate instead of eternally trapping it inside your sponge and wood. Think of applying two dry layers of velcro, and then sticking them together at the end. This is a video I usually recommend: ua-cam.com/video/bYBOo8vOSVw/v-deo.html 4. If you look at exactly the 5 minute mark of your video, there are already two bumps starting to form on the top edge, really visible in the reflection - that 's the rubber seperating from the blade again, which would be logical, because you applied strong pressure at the edges away from the wood by pressing a definitely-not-sharp cutter into the sponge while the glue right next to your cutting location wasn't remotely fixed yet. 5. No matter if wet or dry, either way you used waaaay to much glue, like ten to twenty times the amount you'll ever need. Always have a little bowl and some kitchen paper on your table to press excess liquid out of your application sponge or remove some from your blade. Never push puddles of liquid latex around the edges onto your topsheet or between topsheet and sponge, as can be seen at 2:40. Also, you don't even need to put enough glue on to even reach the corners of the rubber sheet, because by the way: You're cutting those off anyways... 6. When using a cutter, always make sure it's actually sharp (test cut one of the rubber's corners and feel if there's much resistance to your blade), then always go fully around several times: First one pass very lightly to simply get a thin starting cut through the glue layer into the sponge, a second pass through the sponge, a third to carefully cut the topsheet. It will look more like lasercut by an inhuman machine and much less like torn to shreds by a raging Godzilla. I still also like curved scissors too because of speed and ease of use. tho 6.b) Don't use a stupid thin cutting mat, use your local table tennis shop's biannual print catalogue and really let the cutter dig in. That's what they get printed for. 7. May I ask why you got these rubbers and think they're an "upgrade", and what are they upgrading exactly? Like, how will you know if they "work" for you, what's the measureable metric of success? I'm not protesting, these are made in a factory not far from where I live, so thanks for supporting the local economy of my count(r)y by buying our notoriously over-engineered luxury products, we appreciate that a lot, just wondering why the devil people recommend these to you specifically over, say for example, a small stack of solid tried-and-a-billion-times-proven 5$ chinese ittf-approved training rubbers (Say Yinhe Mercury 2, Loki Rxton 1, Sanwei Ultraspin, DHS PF4, 729 Cross, Reaktor Tornado V5, and sooo-many-more) with which you can practice glueing with much less financial risk, are durable to last a long time, and at the same time help people exactly like you all over the world practice basic playing techniques very effectively?
Phenomenal comment, thank you! I'll try to get to each point: 1. I have only replaced 3 rubbers before, so I didn't commit to getting a large bottle my first time. The feedback so far has been pretty helpful, so if I get any better, or need more, I certainly would get a larger bottle! Great tip! 2. This was a very good point and well taken. Thank you so much! 3. This was also well taken, hopefully I didn't ruin my paddle, but I did put it between books overnight and it looks pretty good despite my mistake. 4. I think the book pressure might have alleviated that, but I will keep an eye on that. Good catch 5. If you look closely at the video a towel appears on my lap during my edit. I realized I did use too much glue so that is where the excess went. 6. One other thing that the edit didn't show (I didn't want to bore my watchers) is that this actually took 3-4 passes of cutting with that blade, but I should have taken maybe more. Even still, I should have used scissors. 7. I've actually used the Omega VII Europe on my backhand for about 2 years, and the Omega VII Pro on my forehand for about 2 years. That is too fast for me. I then switched to the Europe on my FH and I've liked that better, but the pro has been on my BH. The only change I'm doing is that I'm adding the MAX thickness sponge to upgrade control. I'm not unfamiliar with the topsheet, as I've played with them for a couple of years, it's just that I want to get a little bit more control. Hope this helps, and thank you for the comment! This whole channel is how I can improve at table tennis, and this'll certainly help!
@@BenSucksAtPingPong Just FYI, the first few times I did the glueing myself, I made an absolute mess (worse than this!) and ruined a few expensive rubbers (Omega IV Asia back then, I think) by having stuff running on the topsheet. I just don't want anyone else to make the same stupid mistakes I did. They're avoidable. :) Book pressure might have helped since the glue was still very wet. I'm very unfamiliar with how that plays out, since I never tried wet gluing, I only got wet glue everyewhere my first time on accident, not intentionally. Usually, dried liquid latex is rarely ever a destructive problem because you can remove it easily again from both blade and sponge (just never from rubber parts like the topsheet) and retry, which I had to do too often, hence finding out where to get a bigger and cheaper bottle of glue after a while. :D Also, from the videos you posted, it looks like the thing mostly seems to work normally, so don't worry too much. Have you ever tried getting a cheap youth setup from your club's coach, you know the stuff that gets recommended for the developing kids, practicing with that for a while, and then switching back to your "main" setup to see if you can directly transfer the strokes and techniques you were forced to learn? Alternate between both and transfer lessons between them?
Actually, yes! I have quite a few paddles at home and I use them quite often with my kids (I keep my main paddle in its case, and with my kids we play with cheaper paddles except my son. He's got a paddle setup from his coach after he played with a cheaper setup for a while and his coach wanted him to upgrade.)
@@BenSucksAtPingPong Okay, that's very good to know! I was worrying because I feel very fast and bouncy pro player rubbers like the Omegas make many techniques beginners absolutely need to master very very very hard to learn and execute: It's reassuring to know that if you ever get frustrated with any of that, you have a spare racket you can test that is slower, and that you play with these because they are simply the most fun to you!
you should be trying to target leannes forehand, as you can see she tends to try to drive the ball with her backhand istead of using forehand. reasom being is because shes hardbat reliant, so targeting the forehand makes it a whole lot harder for her
You're right! She's even emphasized that shot, too, and I've drilled that with her once for a few shots.
OH DEAR... Um... I don't know exactly what the instructions were for free check but... Usually with water based glue you need to wait till both sides dry (you can tell when it turns clear). If you put it together when it's wet, it won't stick well and you'll have patches of unevenness which will affect the consistency of your hits (usually manifesting in dead spots on your paddle). On the German forums, there are people who are proponents of wet gluing, but you need to press it with consistent pressure over a long period of time.
I pressed it between books on my bookshelf overnight, (like I always do) so hopefully I'll be okay. With editing, the process was much quicker but the blade was clearish but the rubber side wasn't. I hope this doesn't cause WWIII.
Hmm... Looks like UA-cam ate my reply...
I'm really terrible at cutting with scissors so I use a single edge disposable razor blade. I think the edge might have been a little rough because it looked like you were trying to do it in one pass and pulled it apart when it didn't cut all the way through. It's okay to take your time and do multiple passes. Thankfully, edge tape covers a multitude of (cutting) sins 😂
When you pull a rubber off, it might be safer to pull it off at a diagonal but not along the grain which might cause splintering. Some blades come lacquered or sealed from the manufacturer and that protects the top ply but some do not and, if it is a soft wood like limba, it is more prone to pulling up pieces if you pull the rubber off along the grain
This is really good advice! I never knew this. (Obviously. I ripped it off irresponsibly.)
@@BenSucksAtPingPong It look like it was okay. If you don't see any pieces or slivers of wood then it should be okay. Also, it depends on the strength of the glue
There's some really good stuff going on! Did you notice the effectiveness of serving to zones 1 3 7 and 9? 1:14 2:31 3:16 4:40. Conversely, note what it's like when people do it to you, your reaction, and what you can do with that info. Occasionally they pop high though i.e. 3:00 3:43 4:13. At this point, if you have to choose between height and placement, choose height! Good pulling feeling starting mid way through game 1 though you seem to be on and off during the second half of game 3. Take a breath to reset and remember what you were doing before. Stay collected and don't rush! Some good blocking sprinkled throughout. 👍 Pushing looks smoother in general. I'll admit I was looking at mostly the ball quality/height (which seemed much better for the most part) more than your footwork or contact timing. 5:56 - so cruel dealing psychological damage here... For your friend, his timing on his off the bounce attacks is a little too early. In general, if he waits slightly longer (7:25 vs 7:34), his percentage of success should increase without much loss of offensive pressure. All in all, a nice win with good application of principles 👍
I notice that my NINE (when done to me) is my hardest, but I have been doing better. Also, I have been starting to be much more conscience of my strike height. It's still not fluid, but I recognize it's importance and will drill this like crazy so I can get better height off the net. Yeah, in game 3 I felt like I pulled away and probably should have called a timeout. Good call out. Thanks for the tips! This was a pretty rewarding game. Both he and I wanted a rematch this night, but unfortunately I had to leave before we could do that.
Inspiring to watch. Keep it up!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you're here to watch!
hello. been a while huh. youve gotten a lot better, but now you tend to sometimes move too far back. so try not to do that too much, instead at most maybe half a step back. like for example at 2:42 you mobed back for no apparent reason. another thing is that when you block with your forehand, you tend to flick it down a little bit, which is why its so inconsistent. imstead, you should try to keep it firm at one spot, as if you were lining up to hit a golf ball
Welcome back! So glad you can see a noticible improvement. Great suggestions and thank you! I think with the moving back, I've been working on my after serve footwork, but I haven't been doing it as a reaction to my opponent, but more of a reaction to my serve. This is a good suggestion, so thank you.
I just noticed Kelvin alternates placing the ball left, right, or to your elbow. So he makes you move around a lot, not giving you any comfortable shots. It looks like he is careful not to give an attackable ball to your forehand, so he will hit it short to your forehand, or move you closer to the backhand side before attacking the forehand. It's a really good strategy that maximizes consistency and game control.
Wow - that's a really, REALLY good point. He's either doing this as a tactic, or for a drill himself, or a combination of the two, but either way, it's somthing I can work on when he's playing against me. Brilliant.
As a side note, make sure your serves don't dip below the table level. It could just be the camera angle though.
@@Ericratz0014 great pointer. Thanks buddy!
Tournaments are such a different experience from regular play. There's the pressure of winning, and you will likely play someone for the first time, and often using a room and table you're unfamiliar with. It's the ultimate worst-case scenario, which makes it the greatest test of your skill. All things considered, you did very well!
Thank you, Eric, and you're very, VERY right.
Nice to see you continuing to add to your repertoire. Fast, no spin serves are great for clutch situations, especially when you've been serving half long or short most of the time. Good idea trying to use your pushes to limit his attacks. Against strong players, they'll usually attack long pushes (maybe with the exception of pushes to their transition point) so short, wide, short & wide pushes are more effective in limiting their attacks. Good job stepping forward more on your pushes. Remember to keep your elbow pretty close to your torso so you're pushing straight and not from the side. That should help consistency a bit. Also, remember what the proper push timing is! Movements and swings are looking more and more natural and comfortable so that's good. It's hard to judge improvement when you're playing against a very good player but the fact that you look relaxed is a good thing. I liked that you still attacked when you had the chance... Sometimes it's hard to do that vs a strong player so you did well
I'm going to write 'keep elbow close to elbow' a million times on a chalk board until it clicks. Thank you for the reminder - I remember when I flew to Indiana to do a camp with Danny Seemiller (my coach's coach) and my two weakest shots were my forehand push (for this reason you mentioned) and my backspin loop. (I still have the footage somewhere) Thanks again.
Do you remember our discussion regarding having a loose wrist and how squeezing the fingers naturally moves the wrist? It sounds like that's what your friend is trying to work on right now. Maybe you can pass him our notes. It might be the case that my eyes aren't fast enough but it looks like he's pulling his wrist up and down (it makes his paddle look like it's standing perpendicular to his forearm 0:07 0:24 0:47 1:08 3:58 4:27). From what I was taught, from a relaxed forehand where the paddle is at rest in line with your forearm, adding wrist is more like twisting open a bottle of soda where the wrist rotates the hand and the thumb applies "downward twist" and the index finger applies "upward twist". Not sure if that makes sense... Combined with breaking, it is a very small but quick motion and makes the paddle look like it is arcing/hugging/covering over the top of the ball. The quick motion over a small distance adds acceleration and that adds more spin... In addition, at 0:05 0:28 2:31, etc, if you play back at 50% speed, you can see his elbow is not stable and rises up quite a bit (sometimes higher than his wrist, a hooking down motion during follow through). This is indicative that he's using a lot of shoulder to generate power, which can lead to injury! It also introduces a lot variables and can lead to consistency issues He keeps his elbow more stable and in line with the plane of his swing at 0:22 1:51 2:47 although the wrist action still looks a little strange. In any case, he's a good player with lots of experience so I'm sure he'll be able to execute what he's trying to learn in no time.
Yes! I remember it well. (I have it logged in my scouting report!) I can see it very vividly from the time stamps. Wow. I will be sure to pass this on, it'll be very helpful! Thank you!
One more thing: as you work on placement, take note of where the opponents typically return for each zone and start trying to anticipate their returns. Use your serves to try to force returns to where you want the ball to go. One more place to serve to is their transition point but these should be fast or it'll be an easy return for them
Definitely I do have a deadspin and a topspin serve to a transition point, but I need to work on its accuracy. (And, actually, the height above the net now that I think about it.)
Keep at it and don't get discouraged! A lot of players think practicing service is boring but good quality serves are essential. As the level of your opponents improves, aces are going to be less common but a good serve will set you up for the third ball attack, prevent opponents from taking the offensive, and (incidentally) improve your serve receives through increased understanding of service mechanics. Take a second to run through your mental checklist before you serve. Spin, speed, height, placement, opponent. Don't rush your serve. It's the only time in a game where you have 100% control
That's great advice, I defintely know with anything I work on there is regression in skill, and so I took this quote to heart that night: "After a big match, it's probably best to relax and play for fun. . . " So I casually was working on this, but knew I was more relaxed and didn't put too much pressure on myself. I actually like practicing serves and I try to challenge myself and do a lot of fun games with it. I don't have a lot of feedback from an opponent (since I practice at home) but I like to practice one serve and see if I can do the following: Do a topspin version, backspin version, deadspin version, and maybe sidespin version(s) Then I like to do short and long placements. I used to do this a lot, but I know I have to get back into it - I've really simplified my serves and only recently began practice. Perhaps I'll record these at home and get feedback that way. I really like the checklist.
GGs, Ben! Looking forward to our rematch.
Same! I promise I'll come back stronger! It was a great match. How did you end up doing?
Lost to Gabriel in Quarters. Was 2-0 up but lost 3-2 🥺
Ah man! Tough loss, Gabriel is great!
Nice W!
Thank you! This one felt good!
Nice match, a well deserved win due to mental fortitude. Good job persisting and working out your FH. If you review the video, you'll see he starts avoiding you FH a lot more and start placing to you BH. Something to analyze: The general correlation between where you place your serve and where he places his return, especially prior to your FH fix. We know that he's going to try to push to your forehand as much as possible because he perceives that as your biggest weakness. So why, on some returns, is he unable to push to your FH? That's the power of serve placement! After a big match, it's probably best to relax and play for fun but if you HAVE to work on something, here's a few things but try not to do too much at once: 1 - continue working on controlled aggression. Attack when you see the chance but not at 100% power (80% max or you're control suffers!) 2 - don't reach for the ball. Remember the strike zone is in 3 dimensions. Move it to the ball or wait for the ball to come to it. 3 - service. Aim for zones 1, 3, 7, and 9. After you toss the ball, wait for it to drop to as close to net level as possible before hitting it. That will help keep them low. Be mindful of where the first bounce should be for the serve you want to do. 4 - a big part of serve receive is mobility. Make sure "staying low" doesn't detract from your ability to move to the ball. Stay loose. If you're too tense, you can't move quickly All in all, a good match! It's showing that the potential is there and you're gaining the tools to tap into that potential.
I definitely am going to be focusing on this a lot - especially the serve placements. In fact, to challenge myself I think I'll do that at the club - ONLY serve in the quadrants and hit at just above net height. I do believe this'll be a good 'play for fun' challenge. Great reminder on these 4 points, THANK you! It's fun to look back and see how Josh and I both adjusted to this match. He's a great tactician. I'm excited for the next tournament!
Nice one, Ben!
Thank you! Appreciate it!
In our group match, Leanne beat me, I beat Josh, and Josh beat Leanne. This led to a 3 way tie in our group. Because I won the fewest games, I was eliminated and didn't advance to the single elimination tournament, unfortunately. However, Josh advanced all the way to the finals and won 2nd place! He won the U1500 tournament and 2nd in the U1800. He text me and told me he only lost two matches this day. This match you see here, and the finals match of this tournament. That made me feel pretty good!
"Dont get cute with it, stay handsome". This is a new favorite quote haha. This was a fun match to watch. Good win ben.
Haha, thank you, Logan. Glad you enjoyed the match, and the quote that kept me grounded the rest of that game, at least.
0:38 - nice angle on that FH. A bit risky but you pulled it off well 0:40 - footwork improving! Especially the hop back and the hop to the left for your BH at 0:48 (the second one. first BH, t feel like it would have been better as a FH, especially since your FH was performing better up to this point in the game) 0:45 - good increase in BH quality. Compared with your first few BH, these were much better 0:57 - remember to hit the ball as low as possible when you're serving to keep it from going high 1:07 - Good shot choice, very much encourage the aggression. Issue was that you carry the ball upwards not forwards. Note where your follow-through ended and you'll see that you carried upwards too much, especially considering the ball was coming to you relatively high. 2:02 - Note the starting position of her serve. It limits wide angles to your backhand side. Therefore you should change your receive's starting position to cover the wide forehand a bit more. 2:08 - nice change up on you BHs 2:14 & 3:21 - nice FH flick. Would definitely pick that as the next skill to work on when you have extra bandwidth 2:29 - good tactics. Because you're changing the line, you can trade a little bit of quality/aggression for placement. You don't need as much aggression because your goal is not to blast the ball past the opponent but to place the ball in a location that they cannot return from. 4:37 - that was a little wild ha ha 4:54 - very nice FH All in all, a good match 👍
Thank you so much for the deep analysis! I was really happy to see my hops on my footwork. it wasn't entirely deliberate in the game, but I have been visualizing it a lot more and practicing it, so it's nice to see it actually happen. I knew something was different during the match and I'm glad it was manifested. I really like playing down the line with opponents, especially when they don't expect it. (Do they ever?) I've been trying to experiment more with placement, and maybe it's too early, but I'm glad a few are landing! Good point on lighting up on the aggression tradeoff, too. It makes complete sense. (The wild shot was completely experimental and dopey. It was an attempt to not just place it to the backhand, but to also to put side spin on it. It... uh, didn't..... work..........I'm just glad all my mistakes aren't caught on camera)
Just watched the first few points, I liked the pulling/guiding motion on both wings. FH was just right, BH could use a little more sharpness/aggression... just a little bit more. Compare the FH and BH ar 0:16. You have more power and racket speed on the FH but the BH was just a touch too tentative I can tell this is going to be a good match 🔥
Yeah, good call out. I wasn't feeling too confident in my backhand attack, so I was just hoping to get it on the table. I was happy about this match, I'm pretty sure if I took even one of these games, I could have taken it to at least 5. She was on fire this day!
@@BenSucksAtPingPong I'll add more notes later 👍
Great matches
Thank you!
Good match. Was glad to see you attack those opportunity shots. Good observation at 4:25. Notice how, the more you twisted, the lower the push quality became. I think you needed to move both feet so you were behind the ball like at 4:22, then step forward with your right. Maybe instead of telling yourself to "move the right leg" you can think "get closer behind the ball" and let your right leg move naturally. I noticed you were pretty upright on a lot of your pushes. Over the table stuff (pushed, flicks, etc), it really benefits to bend forward and get low. It helps you get closer to the ball, creates space for backswing, and helps bring your eyes closer to ball height. At 4:17, a controlled block would have been good enough to win the point. I think you got a bit anxious and went for a big swing when all you needed to do was stick your paddle out.
Definitely the wrong move on the pushes, and yeah, that might have been why he was angling it more and more to that side as I wasn't moving at all. Good way of thinking about it so I'm 'behind' the ball. Absosultely correct - my forehand pushes throughout the day, although better than usual, were still not set up the best because I wasn't 'behind' Yup, I am more upright, bad habit that I didn't notice I was doing until the footage. In fact, I thought I WAS low. But I didn't think of the 'celing above my head' that helped in the past, so I need to remember that for the future, as that was a simple thing that if forgot. And yeah, that is a good point about the swing. Too big, for sure. BUT! There is a big surprise that happens this tournament. I'm exited to post it.
@@BenSucksAtPingPong It might be beneficial to review some of your matches with Jenny. I don't remember which match it was but there was one where your pushes were very much on point. At the very least, you can try to reacquire the feeling of good push timing by watching her pushes
bad footwork and strikes. Should learn the basics first.
Thank you!
Have you had a chance to talk to some of your club mates about how to add more spin to your serves?
Actually, not specifically. I've resorted to UA-cam on this, and even bought a course on it a while back. I go between spinny serves and intentional non-spinny serves. I definitely know the difference in 'feel' of a spinny serve, and it's generally on a horrible stance that I've been trying to correct - I think that is more appropriate to do and then work myself back up. I think my priorities are, in ascending order (and also in my skills:) 1. Correct stance 1b: Correct placement 2. Adding spin 3. Adding deception
Some things I noticed: When you push over the table, you're stepping off to the side instead of forward (see 0:01 vs 0:05). Try to focus on having the ball "bite" into the rubber, like you used to before your break. It looked like you were just putting the paddle under the ball and that's contributing to the lack of control. Remember! Try to push early off the bounce. When you're trying to lift backspin, especially with your BH, it looked like you were almost always using just your wrist, possibly because you were reaching? (0:11, 1:13, etc) Lastly, remember the pulling feeling when your trying to add spin!
Yeah, this is correct. ALL of it. With the backhands, it was very wristy - completely the wrong stroke.
Ben, do you take lessons at all?
@@avatarjonathan3568 yes, I do have a coach, but I haven't been to him in a while because of work, unfortunately.
Remember that your strike zone is not just for height and side to side but also for depth! It seemed like you were reaching for the ball more than usual so... You can either wait longer for the ball to move into your strike zone or move to the ball and place it in your strike zone. But... We all know the real reason you're not performin: You didn't turn your hat backwards...
Very insightful comment and I'm glad I read it before the tournament (You may have seen my short before the tournament, so I apologize for the delay in response. ) And yeah, the hat giveth, and the hat taketh away. I needed to be turned into 'beast mode' and, well, I forgot the setting. Derp.
Like Ben mentioned, I played everyone really passively. I felt like many players were too aggressive (myself included), so I wanted to try something new. It helped me to play a bit more consistently, but it was punish by those who could read the spin and attack the higher balls. I'll definitely go back to my regular style. Good luck in the tournament!
Yeah, did you see that super high ball I wiffed like a dope? That was embarrassing, haha. I definitely wasn't one of those who attacked the higher balls yesterday. I'll get back in my rhythm!
#dadlife 😁 Don't forget to give your gear a thorough examination and cleaning before the tournament. -Remember which zones to serve to. Take a moment before each serve to collect yourself. -Don't worry too much about stance and footwork. Just move naturally so the ball is in your strike zone. -Watch the ball until it contacts your paddle and be patient, don't panic and reach forward. -Be aggressive but don't force it. -If you feel like the ball is going out or into the net too much, prioritize spinning the ball and creating a bit more arc first. "Good luck, we're all counting on you." -Rumack and... "Remember what Vince Lombardi said: If you lose you're out of the family!" -Homer
Definitely had some rust coming in, but by match #2 I felt better. My pushes are the rustiest, but my blocks came back okay. (Still a little behind.) Footwork is also a little rusty. I felt really anxious last night, forced it way too much. I also think I wanted to stay in the family way too much, and that cost me matches - haha. Maybe I can win it back in the tournament. We'll see!
All of you guys toss the boll high enough when you serve
Yeah
You telegraph that left to right spin serve from a mile away 😅
Totally fair critique! I need to compact the serve or really work on masking it. Great call-out!
@@BenSucksAtPingPong just don’t rush it by over thinking it. That’s my problem and it’s killing my game…
THE SCORE!!! I knew you’d start adding it 👍🏻
You like it? Haha.
Yes sir, also I’m glad to be your #1 video again 😉
I just watched the first rally and I know it's going to be a good one ha ha Thanks for keeping score for us 😁
Of course! It's tough, but I think it'll be worth it. Kinda fun to watch a long.
Oh, and did you see the high backhand shot in that rally?
@@BenSucksAtPingPong I did! Excellent patience!
@@BenSucksAtPingPong Honestly though, if it is too much work to keep score, final scores at the end of the match is good enough for me
We'll see what the people demand. Haha. I've heard many, many requests for it not to ignore.
Day and night difference in your play in this game, for motivation just watch your previous match with Jun and you will see that his 3rd ball attacks reduced significantly, GREAT job with returns! There is a reason why I chose Jun as the next opponent you will be able to beat in your poll ;) A few people have mentioned it, but I think your serves are a bit sloppy and needs some work especially your backhand serves. I think you need to focus a bit more on your serve choice, placement, length and motion. I think you should try to keep your backhand serve motion more compact, good examples of this are 0:20 and 2:00 , and avoid backhand motion serves where your arm motion is exaggerated. A very bad example of this is at 3:05 where every element combines to make it not so good i.e. a loose wrist action, your arm that doesn't pull back after serving, a somewhat predictable topsin motion, and the placement (mid-long) that is perfect for a forehand attack shot. If you want some backhand serve inspiration watch this video of Darko Jorgic (one of the best backhand servers/backhand dominated players), you will see that his backhand serve is a lot more compact ua-cam.com/video/_wZ8Qqi5IoU/v-deo.html . Summary: Keep with amazing serve returns and avoid excessive arm/wrist motion when performing backhand serve.
Yes, thank you for this advice, and yes, I can spot the difference! With the serve choice, thanks for the call out. That backspin serve especially, I'm trying to incorporate a sidespin with my topspin, but it's not landing as much as I'd like. It works with some people, but not with others, and I think it doesn't work with most people, so I should abandon it - you're right, it is very predictibe. (Or, compact it.) Thank you!
@@BenSucksAtPingPong keep experimenting you are doing good. The main benefit of backhand serve is the quicker recovery time it allows you after serving...so yeah try to compact the motion a little bit.
Great advice, thank you! I'll be practicing this! I think Michael O, whom I play at the club has a pretty good compact serve now that you mention it (and now that I'm watching for it.)
how is she holding the bat :)
This is hardbat style! Very rare and quite challenging to play against!
@@BenSucksAtPingPong Yeah I understand it's hard bat, but it's her grip that's very unusual
@@dazstuff1875 It's almost like the shakehand version of traditional penhold where you use 1 side of the paddle
@@lt.kettch Yeah, very unique
Great video! Looking back, it's amazing to see how your form has developed in just 3 months.
Yeah! This was a fun video to look over and reminisce. Especially since I re-watched all the old footage (and cherry picked the best shots, of course.) It'll be good to look at this day-by-day as I catch up to now. Thanks for the idea! It gave me other ideas for other videos, too.
Forehand pushing and attacking more. A Good rule of thumb is to never push a long ball that goes to your forhand. Loop that every time !!! You will be killing to birds with one stone, it's actually harder to push a long ball on the forhand side then loop it.
Yes! Totally correct! I always feel 'out of position' if I try to push a FH long ball and instantly regret not trying to loop it. I'm really happy about my attack attempts today, and felt I improved. I'm excited to get the matches edited and posted.
Video suggestion: edit together a 'best shots of the month' video. Also, I'd appreciate it if you displayed the score of the game on each final point.
@@Ericratz0014 best shots of the month is a REALLY good idea. I've been thinking about compiling all of my backhands, forehands, pushes, etc overtime and doing some kind of montage. I've tried the score thing. Unfortunately it's super, super hard. A few things screw it up: Lets People forget the score It's sometimes hard to see the edge balls, net balls, etc. Also it's octuples editing time because each text needs to last the exact frame time from serve start to point end. Maybe when my channel is huge and I can pay sometime to do it, but unfortunately right now it's really tough. But please know, I share your dream of displaying the score ! Some day it'll be a feature! Perhaps for now I'll announce the score closer to the serve.
That's right. Sweep the leg.
I think it was a really good focus challenge. I'm excited to share the results!