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Rivals of aether isn’t new, it’s just melee again. And most fighting game knowledge transfers

I think the main issue with the lack of skins applicable for each event is just that we're at the start of the game's life and there aren't that many skins in general. When we inevitably revisit themes like "Summer", "Halloween", "Winter" in following years there'll be a lot more to pick and choose from.

Also movement is very much easier in Rivals than Melee. So its give a melee pros one less thing to worry

Think about it this way...what exactly are you punishing? The first thing you punish in fighting games is the enemy's movement. If they move into a spot where they are easily able to be hit by you, you use that information to attack. This is the most fundamental tactic in EVERY fighting game ever created. RoA just ramps up the speed in which this tactic is employed.

FINALLY SOMEONE MADE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS TOPIC, I’VE SAYING SUCH. It seriously annoys me how people dismiss movement options as a “cheap melee” thing, without learning all of the nuances. The main reason why many Platfrom Fighters feature such tech is to enhance the existence of stages and platforms in the first place. Without them, you run into the “sticky Platform” problem: Standing on platforms being entirely disadvantage due to the lack of advantage tech, in this case movement.

very true, tho it was a bit disappointing to wait 3-4 minutes for you to start to say "why". I think you could demonstrate your points better with some custom clips that talk more about positioning, tech, and other things you feel relevant to your audience. this seems to be targetted to rivals players, so rivals 2 comp clips were great, but maybe after introducing your point on movement you could show clips with bad vs. good movement, bad vs. good spacing, and a few examples. something to take home with the video that's tangible and can be practiced. good vid man!

I just picked up a guilekeys GK21. I’m still learning the webconfig, but I can pretty much map any button to anything. Haven’t figured out how to add modifiers yet, but I have 2 tilt buttons for LS and RS inputs. And if I press both the tilt buttons, it changes RS to DPad while holding them. It’s a pretty neat controller, especially for the price. This is my first time playing rivals too, so I really have no idea where to map the buttons.

is underrated better then better?

I just received the GRAM Slim. I can't seem to run using it. All my movement keys only can make me walk. I have auto walk off and no modifier buttons I use make me run. D pad movement makes me run if I hold the modifier down and use the C-Stick. Any Ideas?

Ayyyyy GRAM mentioned. I love my Custom GRAM controller. Its def on the more affordable end of leverless controllers with great support from guys behind it. Also love my progcc. Its a super easy mod to do with very little experience to DIY since there is no soldering involved. But ultimately GCC is my true love

On Xbox I map Jump to RT, short hop to RB, grab to Y, shield to LT, and parry to LB.

I've been searching high and low for people's takes on what a decent smash-style-leverless setup for rivals 2 is and this is the most detailed one i've seen yet, thanks. Only question I have is how do you up-smash in the air as Wrastor if the c-stick buttons (on Adaptive, for his dash-tilts) are normal attacks in the air? Seems really really awkward to hold the bottom right pinky button while pressing the top ring finger button. *edit* Testing it out, just setting c-stick to 'strong' lets him still do tilts out of dash and smashes in the air so I guess that's the ideal now? lol.. I might be missing something though.

For GameCube, I recommend having A and B as their regular attack and special, and z jump. I have both triggers bound to shield to make wavedash out of shield easier, and because of you have two shield inputs held you can’t spotdodge and can shield drop. I also have X and Y bound to parry and grab, note just for those actions (which you could do just by pressing A or B with a shield input), but also for doing aerial Nairs or Neutral-Bs while holding full drift. And I have c-stick set to strong attack, because I don’t have a strong attack face button bound, and partially because that’s how it is in melee, and partially because I found it didn’t take that long to get used to after spending a long time with tilt stick on in ult For a regular controller, you could go with a similar layout but I would recommend moving either parry or grab to the second bumper and freeing up the face button for whatever you want. Something like a strong attack face button with tilt stick.

Sleeping on the m30 fight pads

Coming back To this after trying my own leverless. Here is a short list of challenges and ease of use moves i made. Any tips appreciated Easy to perform: dash dance, moonwalk, wave dash, ledge dash, RAR, tilt out of run Hard to perform: retreating aerials, in place aerials, angled moves(ex: fleet up special cancels), turn around in place, walk

you actually dont need to solder to make your own custom leverless controller. just get wires with quick disconnects and use arcade buttons (there are arcade button housings that can take any kind of keyboard switch you want like gamerfinger) and its extremely simple and easy no soldering reqiured. speaking from personal experience

why you gonna do the gram slim like that and show B stock footage haha Btw for anyone looking for a leverless right now, look into the Gram slim. Speaking as someone who bought one 2+ weeks ago, they are readily available, cheap, have amazing build quality, and have (from my experience) the most professional company standing behind it of all the platform fighter leverless companies. I do think there is one major downside right now, which is software support. If you just want to play on default Rivals 2 layout like most people then this doesn't matter, but if you want to do a custom layout it is currently a pain to modify.

Where is my ps4 controller😢

Victrix BFG Pro has the best back paddles of any controller ive used and allows you to fully customize every input you want, while being ergonomic and quite sturdy. Definetly better than the GCN controller I used for years

I've been using the Nyxi Warrior, and it's been amazing for everything EXCEPT the snapback. It's essentially a wireless GC controller but it has Hall Effect Joysticks, a left shoulder button, swappable controller gates (octagonal vs circular), adjustable shoulder button depth, and some other general features. However I can't consistently baby dash, I'll go maybe 2 or three in one direction, but then snapback will give me a pivot the other direction. I've even adjusted the deadzones to try and prevent it and it just snaps too far. As I said, I love everything else about it, and if you play GC I def recommend it, but the snapback is a struggle lol.

is this tier list in reverse

keyboard is interesting im currently playing rivals 2 with keyboard and i will say i just cant go back to controller anymore cuz it feels so slow moving the L-stick. the only real drawback i can think of that keyboard has is wavedash back since you'd either need to do a half circle motion or quarter circle motion to do it or use the walk modifer to do wavedash back (though from what i tested out on controller this problem also kinda exist but it isnt as prominent since you input the downback motion and inputs for wavedash fast. you can still do that on keyboard but it is pretty unrealiable). baby dashing is definitly possible though you do need to like tap the key fast and have it sort of do a half way input to get a baby dash. other than that it just the adjustment period and also something kinda curse that i do is that i remove the keys i dont use and change my spacebar's cap with like the shift key cap.

I switched over to leverless for ultimate about a month before rivals came out. I played some of the betas on controller, but leverless just feels better IMO. They should definitely implement some rules for leverless, seeing as keyboard uses neutral socd but there isn't a standard for open source haybox controllers. Another downside with box is doing slight DI angles. Hitting 45 degrees is trivial, but doing any angle between 0 and 45 is way more difficult than on a standard controller

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As a Keyboard player, we are currently missing the ability to bind Taunts, bind keys for the Menu, and doing FTilts and Dairs can be unreliable, as every key is a full tilt, so in order to do them you have to use the Walk Modifier, which has a learning curve, as currently there is no *Double Tap to Run* in the game, so yeah. I'm glad you esteem our controller and put it high on the list, but the current drawbacks do make it a bit more unwieldy to new players, or returning players from Rivals 1 for that matter... Which is weird to see, as Rivals 1 did have full Keyboard support, and is what I used for the entirety of the game, so it's really strange they would just forget about it like this.

Keyboards and leverless might just be the future peope are just opposed to learn

I have to disagree with the Keyboard placement. I tried to use mine for a joke and BabyDashing was virtually impossible...

I just use a Xbox series controller with a few added parts to make it feel more Gamecuber. Its pretty cost effective if you get one cheap from amazon or ebay. Xbox cocntroller - 44$ SCUF Pro Triggers Grip Kit- 24$ = Gives the controller trigger stops. Octagonal Gated Sticks Accent Rings- 10$ - Easy way to makes the stick octagonal. optional - GameSir Thumb Grip Pack-12$ If I wanted to go further I would probably solder in Hall sticks or TMR. But by itself just feels right for me personally.

I made a boxx for like 20$

NYXI?

Could you put links where to buy all these options?

Anyone recommend a controller that doesn't have a huge stick radius? Maybe I'll get another nintendo pro for pc. The stick radius on the ps5 feels ginormous and the triggers for shield don't feel great.

The best is whichever you like. Clickbait bull.

lol I loved the "snapback" in the intro. I giggled.

keyboard doesn't work on linux. not "any computer"

Ive been debating trying to swap to my hitbox. Not having a c stick just feels unnatural for me. Like do extra DI tool and aerial drift manipulation

what’s a good xbox controller with back buttons/ paddles?

could you make a video of your leverless layout for rivals? getting mine soon so itd be nice to get an idea of how people have theirs mapped

Dan said on X that the 20% coin earnings in the starter bundle does last forever btw. I think the starter bundle is a great deal tho. Anyone could just buy that and nothing else and unlock a good amount of stuff over time from the coin shop.

At this price im not buying shit

Can you explain what tilt boosting is?

I like that you mentioned that you don’t have to spend money to be supporting the Developers because time is something you can never get back so paying for the game just being invested and maybe talking to other people about it and going to events and all this other stuff is more than support in my eyes

The 500 coins continue infinitely after level 21, so you should probably mention that.

once you complete the pass, it's just 500 gold per level. im on level 56, and nothing new has shown up

zetter's dash attack up strong combo is actually a special case that rivals calls a gatling, much like the same term used in traditional 2D fighting games. He still has a dacus, but his gatling combo of dash attack -> up strong only works on hit whereas his dacus works like everyone else's where the dash attack wont come out.

Moonwalks can also be done with a half circle up to avoid falling through platforms

great video ❤❤

Casual gold player here, this vid is a great rundown of the event, would’ve bought the halloween bundle if I knew about them calculations, I kinda started tweaking when you accidentally said the low poly bundle had 250,000 coins I was wondering how I managed to spend that amount on just leon clairen. Aside from that buying this bundle actually got me to start playing ranno because I started with smash 64 this event just hit too close to home. Again great video and I hope to see more like it

Heres a usefull movement tech that makes use of the Walk modifier (just makes it easier). Its a way to ledge trump easily if youre at a bit farther distance from the ledge that a wavedash would t reach. So you basically start running towards the ledge. Before you even make it there, you hold the walk modifier button. Then as you approach the ledge, execute a turn skid. Normally a running skid prevents you from dropping down, but because youre transitioning from a run to a walk, somehow that turns off the ledge barrier.

Former melee player here, this game has so many melee-isms and I love it. Appreciate the DACUS knowledge <3 ! I didn't know it wasn't only Zetter who could make use of it since his is a special case and I didn't get to testing everything yet. Much love!