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I agree! I think they will keep him - they love mysteries that keep the audience engaged (just look how much Rings of Power sacrificed in terms of plot in order to create certain character mysteries). Demandred is that exact thing handed to them on a platter, and he's too important in the final book to cut unless they never make it that far. Others like Rahvin are total non-events, especially if most of the Andoran Royal family plot never eventuates. What I'm most worried about is that they plan to cut the whole Finn story and just have this stupid dagger-on-a-stick plus some random 'I remember my past lives' mumbo jumbo to explain Mat. That was my favourite plot from the books and the replacement seems extremely lazy and half-baked.

@@MaesterEamon I completely agree. So far, the only thing they have gotten really "right" about the Chosen is the essence of just how much more POWERFUL they are with scenes like Lanfear walking through Cairhien and destroying it with a flick here, flick there, or like throwing Lan and Moiraine out of the Gateway after wasting time walking through the ways, when the whole time she could have Travelled, and she wanted to make sure that sunk in. But the best one? Moggy! OMG! I SQUEALED when she came on, and before you see her, you hear "'softly, softly, in the shadows" (which she actually does say to Nynaeve and Elayne when we first "meet" her in Tanchico). The fact that she is completely sane in the books is easy to ignore with how delicious this version is...IF the Actress stays true to that core of being (like the way Guy Roberts did with Uno. I wasn't happy with what happened with him by a mile, though I saw it coming. But he acted EXACTLY the way Uno would have in THAT situation, so I can deal with it.) I honestly believe James would have liked this version of Moggy, but I might be letting the cart get ahead of Bela!

Yeah I have a bad feeling this will be correct. Instead of Saruman being turned to evil we'll just get a 'Saruman was already evil 4000 years ago and we all somehow forgot' retcon that makes 0 sense.

They literally said he is Istar.

He didn't have 'dark origins' though, he turned to to evil through study of Ring-Lore and exposure to the Palantir.

I got the feeling particularly in the final two episodes of this season that they are just trying to create these 'epic' or 'poignant' moments and then just connect the dots between them, not realising that those moments are meant to be the payoff of an actual plot. Eg. the big elf cavalry charge that just stopped, Miriel's 'trial by the Valar' that did nothing but stall the story for an extra episode, Durin III's death scene, the final scene. It's similar to what Game of Thrones was doing in the final season when it went to total shit.

@@MaesterEamon , i think ROP is getting better (not saying much) than its first season. it's actually less cheesy than season 1. but you're totally right about things supposed to be a payoff for an entire plot, not just payoff for every scene.

don't have to cancel, cancelled years ago. every episode is online for free, except I have zero desire to watch shitty fiction even for free :) reading is one thing, understanding is another. cheers.

@@takuid u dont have to undestand anything, its F-ing fantasy, its made up... Dot like it dont watch it, there is SO MUCH CONTENT to watch, for everybody. When i was younger i tend to pick everyhing apart as a filmmaker myself, and since theni learned to enjoy anything simply as it is. I dont like somthing i turn it of and move on, to the next, But i have to defend this with my life couse so many great people worked on this show, and it is as best as it can be. Not for some Genzie asholes to shit all over it. Could it be better of course it could, i would do so much things different or bette but it is what it is, i still can ejoy it.

glad you can enjoy it! I’m trying to appreciate it for what it is but I’ve been disappointed by the writing.

@@marcinrandallnowakowski8549 sounds like a deranged rant bud. go enjoy it then, why worry about other people's thoughts and write any comment in the first place? people have a write to hate or dislike things just as much as they have a right to like it. you can't handle that, you gotta check yourself, not others.

@@MaesterEamon Most people dont know, Amazon dont have rights to the entire Tolkien work, so they have a lot, a lot of restrictions what they can use, People dont appreciate how difficult is to write around what they can and canot use. I think they have only rights to the first trigoly stories, so the prolog for the first movie is this entire series. We dont really know what they can use so maybe a lot of Tolkien stuff that explains this they probably just HAD TO change it, so thats why most people who knows book by heart are angry. Knowing this I really enjoy this as something new, knowing how extremaly hard and expensive making such a show is.

Hate to say it.... But the dude is old and probably gonna die soon... Its like refusing to recast blade. It needs to happen now or it will be awful in the future.

I don’t mind the actor or the character, i just feel like it’s a wasted opportunity to explore something new

@@MaesterEamon Exactly, whats wrong with introducing Alatar and Pallando? No, but they had to go with Gandalf and Saruman (not yet confirmed but def him)

@@808hearmannxea2 Its nothing wrong with recasting Ian, but doing it like this, with this shitty story...

It's not Disney buying Star Wars though, they don't own the franchise to invent canon. They paid a vast sum for specific rights but then apparently decided not to use any of it except the names😅.

Hahaha that made me laugh way more than l should Right there with you buddy But those r more reasons to continue reading the books as l hv been meaning to for 20 years or so 😂🎉

even when you smell shit 😅

wait spoil me i wanna know 😂

@@jason_man he is infact...gandalf

still a terrible idea even by Rings of Power standards

I was holding onto hope they would make him one of the blue wizards...until this episode.

yeah me too. Disappointed with the writing of the finale and the show in general

According to what?

@@MaesterEamon ua-cam.com/video/inZ3mj5sk8Y/v-deo.htmlsi=uall_GRP70vNBMuk

@@MaesterEamonunfinished tales. "...Olórin (who was known in Middle-earth as Mithrandir) brought it with him out of the West. And on a time Olórin came to Galadriel, who dwelt now under the trees of Greenwood the Great..... And when Olórin had told her many tidings she sighed, and said: ‘I grieve in Middle-earth, for leaves fall and flowers fade; and my heart yearns, remembering trees and grass that do not die. I would have these in my home.’ Then Olórin said: ‘Would you then have the Elessar?’ ....And he held before her the Elessar, and she looked on it and wondered. And Olórin said: ‘This I bring to you from Yavanna. Use it as you may, and for a while you shall make the land of your dwelling the fairest place in Middle-earth....' " Galadriel acquires Nenya at the start of the third age, removing her need for Elessar. So this conversation makes no sense unless it’s in the second age. Ooooor the complexity of the story JRR Tolkien wrote means there actually are plot holes all over the place, they are just deep deep into the lore.

if you didnt know, then you clearly didnt read the book

@@MaesterEamon "trust me bro"

The Blue Wizards? The thing is Tolkien wrote barely anything about them so it would've been the perfect opportunity for the RIngs of Power writers to have free reign with storytelling without treading dog shit all over the carpet of Tolkien's work.

do you have a source for this? I did notice that they seemed to be referencing characters / names this season that weren't within the scope of LotR + appendices.

I think it could've been a nice plot idea if they hadn't explicitly stated that he was an Istar. It would be like someone saying there's a dragon under Moria and then revealing it as a Balrog later.

Can’t be the witch king is from numenor and two others of the Nazgûl’s also

Goıd to see another one tihnks like me. Most of people thinks he is Saruman but Saruman might be a fııd guy to the later ages. He is Witch King. Both Easterner King and A Wizard. Greatest of the nines.

which roar?

Preferable to him being Saruman or a ringwraith tbh

Better than nothing... obviously not a Bombadil FAN...

@chestfullosixes5808 that ain't Bombadil at all. Amazon wrecked his character and he straight up copied Treebeard telling the trees to go back to sleep word for word. This is a creatively dead show and any video speculating about lore is coping just like the acolyte fans did before that show failed. Lore was not in their minds making this show. Clearly they missed the clip of Peter jackson saying "we didnt want to put our agenda in lotr." Because this trash is littered with DEI nonsense and their own views. What's nuts? Middle earth had diversity already. When you force it where there wasn't to tick a box it's painfully obvious. The show lost half of its viewers from the first season and it's only going to go downhill from here. Mark my words: there won't be a season 3 after this gets done losing money.

@@harryjones5478 We care that it fails, that's what we care about. This is an insult to tolkien's legacy, just like the acolyte was an insult to star wars. Guess what? People didn't watch the Acolyte, and it failed. But what they did do was comment on videos like this to help drown out the few shills that liked it. (If you like Rings of power you've either never watched Jackson's LOTR or you have but you don't know anything about Tolkien beyond those three movies.) I'm not sure how ROP made a second season, its first season did not do well, and from what I understand season 2 has even few people viewing it. I fully expect there to be no season 3. The only thing ROP will be remembered for is a cautionary tale on how NOT to handle a beloved IP, this will go down as the most expensive flop in TV history.

they were developing him being Sauron in the first season to the point that they literally called him Sauron. They use misdirection at every opportunity to try to create interest. I think they want to create the idea that he is Gandalf for those who want to think it without totally committing to it (also because they can't legally refer to Blue Wizards).

@@MaesterEamon they didnt develop him to be Sauron at all. it was the mistake of the cultist to think it was him. everything points to Gandalf

There were a number of mentions in the lead up eg. linking 'the return of Sauron' to the meteor. The evidence for Gandalf is...recycling a line from the movie, and using the word 'gand' (it means wand). The evidence against is everything Tolkien ever wrote. Not saying Amazon won't just choose to disregard everything Tolkien ever wrote, but there are many reasons it would be a bad idea.

@@MaesterEamon they are doing fan service and you know it. this dude is Gandalf and im willing to bet just because of his character design alone and again, fan service, the Dark wizard will be Saruman. how they play that out with him going bad so early and then somehow being "good" till the lead up of the events of LOTR will be interesting but yeah. i think i can safely bet Saruman and Gandalf are the 2 Istari in here.

would call that more 'I have heard the name Gandalf before'-service than fan service.

Yeah, I think the show is doing much better with filling in the blanks around these 'things left unsaid' than it is when working with the main storyline.

Sauron is in Eregion...

Saruman wouldn't make much sense, since this guy is already publicly evil, and Saruman goes on to be selected to lead the White Council against Sauron, and is still 'good' up until his betrayal in Lord of the Rings. But lots of stuff in the show doesn't make much sense, so anything's possible I guess 😅

I think it's not one of the 5 Istari we know, but rather a sole Maiar that were first sent to Middle-Earth prior to the Istari and after they're failure Valar sent Maiar from those who were truly loyal to their cause and chose the Istari - Olorin, Kurunir, Allatar, Pallando, Aiwendil

@@echo-1487 Wow that explains a lot

@@echo-1487 they literally called him an Istar though. Maiar and Istari are not the same thing and there were only 5 Istari. Not to say that Amazon can't just trash the lore of course, but I don't think they want to do it that blatantly.

@@MaesterEamon Please can you explain why in the books Gandalf is Maiar and Istari? Was he Maiar when he was with the Valar, then Istari when he arrived in Middle Earth? Thanks in advance.

The Gandalf stuff could just be misdirection, which they've already been using to excess elsewhere. At the very least I hope they never reveal it and let people just think what they want.

yet here you are 🤡

@MaesterEamon this video appeared in my suggestions for some reason and i dont miss a chance to crap on ROP. I care about the entertainment coming from watching the UA-cam videos bashing it and shilling for it as the ratings plummet. I'm here to see it fail, that's what I care about. You thinking there's some deep lore behind the Amazon show is funny to me. It smacks of the acolyte fans who were all speculating about lore before that show failed so badly for disrespecting the lore and got canceled. I'm shocked season 2 got made. There won't be a season 3

there is deep lore behind the Amazon show though, they paid $250 million for it. It's just a matter of whether they actually choose to use it.

@MaesterEamon oh yes there is! My goodness I love the second age. I know all about it...rings of power is utterly wasting it. I was excited about ROP when it was announced until I saw that it was Amazon doing it.

Basically, they took on the Tolkien IP and the established fanbase that come with it to hijack it and insert their own ideas.

It doesn't fail to be funny that in your try to make professor Tolkien one apology in comparison with the writing of The Rings of Power you actually failed to understand EVERYTHING about Tolkien haha. If living today, the professor would be baffled at your statement that "some races are better then others" same as he would be back when he was alive. For, if you did not noticed, Tolkien was never against diversity and understanding that every culture/race has it's value, as you can observe by the multiple races that populate Middle Earth - funny and curious enough, it was Sauron and Saruman who nurtured an ideal of a superior race that should rule over others and exterminate every thing that was different of their ideal. That's Tolkien 101. And so it goes, same about "traditional gender roles" something that, if reflected in Tolkien's work, was never glorified - and the female characters that appear in his work are never in a "domestic" position, but rather in a position of being peers with men. You could say the writing in The Rings of Power looks bad, amateurish, that the writers doesn't understand Tolkien's work at it's core and point a number of reasons to that - including the fact that they don't have the rights of the complete Legendarium - but you did it by pointing all the wrong reasons that only the fans who didn't get Tolkien - same as the writers of RoP, although inverted - could think of.

@@yuriborba9618 let’s be honest, it doesn’t take a Tolkien professor to realize what I said. We both know Amazon took the gender roles too far, and the race equality a bit too far with the orcs having caring families, That they made Galadriel exude so much testosterone, people took to calling her “Guyladriel” They made a male version of Frodo and Sam, and the whole Harfoot arc is so bad. They tried to make them as wholesome as the Hobbits, yet the Harfoots leave the weakest family behind to be bait? They also made the orcs having “caring families”? Come on, if you know Tolkien, it was clear he didn’t think that race was “equal” to the elves. Stop it. They mismanaged the depiction of elves. There is not gravitas of millennia-old beings with all the wisdom and knowledge and power of someone who’s been alive for thousands of years. Instead, they have a bunch of Californians who oddly looks and styles similarly to the writers of the show, and who all seem to be trying too hard to have human interactions… But it’s clear that the showrunners and writers don’t understand human interactions the way Tolkien does. So they should stop trying to change the essence of his message to add their own modern political twist to things.

To be fair I think orc babies are probably more lore-accurate than the 'dug-out-of-mud fully grown' concept from the movies. That scene was widely trashed when the films came out.

Agreed! While making this video (specifically the bit about the collapsed timeline being unnecessary) it was pretty straightforward to come up with an alternative that achieves the main plotpoints they wanted (Halbrand & Galadriel, Adar and the Southlands) without trying to shoehorn in absolutely everything they had rights to. I still think trying to do this story without being able to provide any of the actual back story from the First Age was always going to end badly though.

@@MaesterEamon The weird thing is the appendices start with a pretty decent overview of the first age. Not in great detail or enough to make actual narratives, but for a mythic prologue like PJ's Fellowship? I think so. Going with what they went with was certainly... a choice.

I think that's what they were going for with that intro reel. It just kind of...missed the mark. They definitely had enough to mention the stealing of the silmarils though I suspect they would've had to tiptoe around anything about the 'oath'. It's honestly kind of weird given how much they've tried later to link the silmarils to the rings (via their oddball mithril origin story) that they basically wrote them out of the background then just plonked them back in later. They even probably had enough to tie Finrod's death in with them.

lets hear what this brain broken red pill addict 13 year old has to say people. im sure he has great ideas.