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Ryan Owens
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How to Configure SDRTrunk without a Premium RadioReference Subscription
After publishing a video on how to configure the SDRTrunk software by importing channels from RadioReference.com, I received questions about the need for a premium subscription to RadioReference. If you don't have a premium subscription, this video will show you how to manually configure SDRTrunk using data freely available on RadioReference.
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Configuring sdrtrunk (premium RR subscription required - see video description for workaround)
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In a previous video, I showed you how to install the sdrtrunk software and set up an SDR receiver. In this video, I'll walk through configuring sdrtrunk and show some of the features available. NOTE: At the time I created the video, I did not realize that a premium RadioReference subscription was required for downloading the channels. If you don't have a premium subscription, you will have to m...
Installing and Configuring sdrtrunk with an RTL SDR Dongle
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If you want to receive digital trunked radio signals (like many police and fire departments use) for well under $50, this video is for you. I'll walk you through setting up an RTL-based SDR and then installing the open source sdrtrunk software. PLEASE NOTE: The inexpensive RTL SDR dongles have limited bandwidth. As a result, you may find that you are not able to follow all trunked channels on y...
Winlink Packet RF Demo with a Baofeng and TinyTrak4
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This video shows how to connect a Baofeng to a laptop via a TinyTrak4 to establish a packet RF connection to a Winlink gateway.
Winlink Packet RF Demo with a Baofeng and Signalink USB
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A demonstration of how to connect a Baofeng handheld radio via a Signalink USB sound card interface for use with Winlink RMS Express for packet communication.
Will this work with hackrf? And what antenna should i use? Thanks!
@@defalt7651 I don't have experience with that device, so I can't say for sure. I recommend referring to the sdrtrunk docs, where I think there is a list of supported hardware. For antenna, it just comes down to what you want to hear. In my area, I'm interested in the 800MHz band, and there is a strong signal in my area, so I just split off from my TV antenna. Your mileage may vary.
Hello, thank you for your video. This is the answer I was looking for. I have a question, I work at a company that uses p25 phase 2. We have limited radios in our particular department which is on one talk group ID out of 20 different departments, of which each of those departments has their own talk group ID. When another department wants to get a hold of my department, they switch over their radios to our channel on our Motorola radios. If I decide narrow down the alias / playlist to simply pick up my department, Will I be able to hear when the other department is contacting our department? Or will I simply hear our response? I'm kind of a new person at this so thank you for your patience.
Oh, the reason I mentioned limited radios was because I want to use SDR trunk to at least monitor the activity on our department
Any ideas on why it won’t recognize a control channel?
@andrewrichardson3135 unfortunately I don't know. I'm not affiliated in any way with the software. I just made a few videos showing what I had figured out. Perhaps someone else might have ideas for you, but as long as you are in range and your SDR is working, I'm not sure.
Your video made me throw 50 dollars in the trash. The sdr trunk program does not work for me on Windows, and now I found out that for it to work I need to have 2 rtl sdr dongles. If you had mentioned that detail I would not have made the purchase of this dongle
First of all, thank you for such a perfect explanation, you should be a teacher. Second, a question, would this entire installation process be the same for me who have the v4 of rtl sdr? Greetings and thanks again for the excellent video.
i need help please i done everything u said but i am not getting any sound. at all. i get sound on fm
Check to see what the bandwidth of the system you are attempting to decode. If it's greater than the bandwidth of your SDR then this could be your problem. My town Plymouth recently moved to bostons trunk system which is massive. I'm assuming that's why my $hit can't get clear decodes and it's intermittent wonky at best. Even using 2 SDRs I can only cover 6mhz of bandwidth. I forget what the Boston system is but I know it's f@#king massive 🥴I gave up 🤣. Moved into pocsag , Js8 call, key fobs, neighbors electronic devices lol
Good video thanks. Is all this procesa same compatible with rtl sdr V4?
Just coming by your channel as a result of trying to learn how to set up and configure SDRTrunk. Your video's have been great. Step by step in a "relaxing" format made them simple to follow. I have subscribed as a result to your channel. Thank you for putting these together.
Please help!! im getting this error with manal config and with RR subcription: 2024:03:13 11:03:47 APCO-25 0 <-> SYNC LOSS - BITS PROCESSED [9600] 2024:03:13 11:03:46 APCO-25 0 <-> SYNC LOSS - BITS PROCESSED [1570]
This is not an error I've encountered, so not sure what it would be caused by. If I had to guess, I would think maybe you are not receiving a strong enough signal or maybe too strong and overdriving your receiver. I'd recommend looking at your gain settings, but aside from that, I'm not sure.
Its most likely an issue with compatibility with a USB device your are plugging your dongles into. Try plugging your dongle into a different USB port or a different USB hub. Then, restart the app and try again.
Thank you. This was very helpful for me. SDRTrunk is very useful, but it is not intuitive at all. That coupled with the radio world's way of having 7 to 10 thousand ways to say anything means that our references and software, or whatever, tend to not line up when it comes to terminology means that anyone who isn't at least moderately proficient has a *uva time getting a grasp on some of this. I would love to see an in-depth breakdown of the information we find on radioreference and what we see in SDRTrunk and other software. If that exists, please point us. If it doesn't, and it's something you could do, please do that. Would be very useful for many of us. RadioReference is great, but it doesn't hold any hands :)
Unfortunately, I don't have a secret decoder key and find it challenging as well. I figured out how to do what I demonstrated in this video by working backwards from a working configuration and just matching up values. I don't have the expertise in trunking systems to have done it "forwards" on my own - which is why I made the video.
@@ryowens Thanks for making it. It got me to a working system and I can play with options and value one at a time now to get and idea what is what.
I have been banging my head on the wall trying to figure trunking out with the sdr trunk. i have good signal strength but no audio out. I've tested the beeps and boops as well as noaa and those are all coming through the speakers. i have tried various control frequencies in my town of Plymouth ma. i have a 30 ft high discone antenna and receive lots of signals from cape cod and other towns when using my sdr console or sdr #. so i know my signals are good, just cannot get the damn sdr trunk to push sound. i think i have enough BW with my rtl v3 set at 2.8 for at least a few of my localities. i cannot find the talk group info for my plymouth system on RR, when i try to click on it , it states premium members :( any thoughts on what i am fudging up? thanks!
This isn't an issue I've encountered. I would just say to check all the audio settings on the software and your computer. But you've probably already done that.
I had similiar issues. I started with know freqs, eg weather once I heard that I just moved around to more chs of interest. I am in RI so there is alot on RISCON. good luck.
@@ryowens sure did 🥴 I can get NOAA audio out it's so weird. I may try on another laptop I have to see if I can get it to work. Of course a windows update fubar my nice laptop about 6 months ago. One of their updates made it so my computer can't recognize cameras 😂 it no longer exists in device manager, so I'm assuming it has caused other issues I have not seen like with sdr trunk
@@user-LJF I did check NOAA right away and of course I could hear that 🤔 next I'll try to find a local system that is very small to see if it can push that out. It's so weird, I can see the signals nice and strong on the fft and waterfall. I have to posted a bunch of screen shots in Radio reference post to see if one of those guys has any tips.
did u ever figure it out..i'm having the same problem
Great video, thank you. The latest SDRTrunk comes with JAVA, so no need to install it separately.
fellow ohioan, this is exactly what ive been attempting to do in stark county. thank you for these three vids planning on doing this soon, let you know how it works out. using a single nooelec sdr,, and no premium with RR
Pay attention to the total bandwidth of the system you are planning to monitor. If it exceeds the bandwidth of your SDR, you may need multiple SDRs for it to work properly.
@@ryowens i am now up. im sure adding a second and third...(9th) sdr would make this overpowered, but im getting a few talkgroup transmissions local pd etc....the muting ranges is a great workaround and now i see why the import from RR is so much easier, marcs ip is absolutely huge in scope. my single nooelec is able to pull bandwith of 2.7 mhz, that seems to be alot. ill make a simple vid and link it here later. thanks again.
In Firefox, just copying the talkgroup section you want gives a nice text copy. It also pasts into Word nicely - as a table - so you can write a quick macro to add the tags needed. Excel also takes it nicely, so you can generate the macros there. (Some pages are written so badly that you have to manipulate between Paste Special in Windows, or Paste Special in Excel, then copy and paste to the other, before you get what you want. Not Radio Reference. It's laid out as a table, so it copies as a table - just what we need.)
Great Video. I am just getting started with SDRTrunk. How many SDR radios do you use with this setup? Or how many are required?
It depends on the bandwidth of the SDR and the total bandwidth of the trunked system you are monitoring. The RSPdx that I use has a 10MHz bandwidth, which is enough to cover the local trunked system I care about, so I only need the one SDR receiver. If I were using RTL dongles though, I would likely need two or three depending on how many conversations I wanted to be able to track at one time and how wide the bandwidth required to do so would be.
Very informative and easy to follow video, Ryan. Thank you!
how do i do this without buying the subscription
I just posted a video showing how to do this. See ua-cam.com/video/vegJLSfwmu0/v-deo.html for a walk-through.
Incredibly helpful. Thank you!
you failed to mentioned that you need to pay for the radioreference premium sub to do the import. Seems like you can't even download anything from this site unless you have a premium sub
Please refer to the description attached to the video. In the description, I noted this. You can still manually configure the channels though using data from RadioReference. It's just a bit more work, but I believe it can be done.
I've been through a handful of video trying to get my little gut running three months of pain and you solved it within a ten minute video love you content...we would love to see how to integrate plug-ins with the pwnagotchi like GPS battery life cpu ect thanks man much appreciated
I'm getting no sound from the sdrtrunked software not even any static.
Well, you wouldn't get static... sounds like it either isn't decoding anything or you've got muted or you may somehow have the wrong audio output device selected. Past that, I don't know.
Super merci pour le tuto
Thank you for this! Would I be able to do this with my Yaesu FTM400? I have it set up in an off-grid cabin. Using APRSlink is cumbersome, so I’d like to be able to use Winlink for emailing with a laptop. Also, what Baofeng are you using?
Yes, Winlink works great with a FTM400. I have an FTM400 in my vehicle and have used it many times for Winlink. The easiest way is to get a converter cable for the radio's 10 pin mini-DIN to a 6 pin mini-DIN (Yaesu sells a few different varieties of adapter), then get the Signalink cable that matches the 6 pin mini-DIN. That cable works with a variety of radios including the FT450D, some Kenwood mobiles, etc. You do have to get the radio settings right, like turn off the APRS modem in the radio, etc. I'm not sure which Baofeng I used in the video. It could have been a BF-F8+ but I'm not sure. Whatever it is, it is most likely a 2015 or 2016 era version.
@@ryowens great, thank you! I’ve been using APRSlink up to now. It’s very cumbersome. Being able to use a laptop would be so much easier. Your video has been a great help! Thank you again!
I really hope you are still following this. Nobody has been able to help me yet. Great video but I am stuck. I have the exact same setup using the same equipment. I have all of the settings matching yours. When I open the SoundModemn, I always get "KISS port is busy!". I do not have multiple instances of SoundModem running. I click OK and continue following your lead. When I get to watching the waterfall, I don't have the steady activity. In fact, I only get activity when I hit the monitor button, my waterfall matches yours. When I hit Start, I connects like yours but then immediately disconnects. It doesn't show any traffic like yours and mail in my outbox never sends. Please help.
It sounds like you have multiple issues. The KISS port busy is a TCP port conflict on your computer. You can open a command prompt and run "netstat -an" to see if something is listening on that port. If it is, you can either figure out what it is or use a different port in SoundModem and Winlink. The waterfall issue sounds like a squelch problem. Perhaps you have your squelch set too high or tone squelch enabled. Depending on your radio, you may or may not see waterfall signal when no incoming signal is present. That isn't necessarily an issue.
Thank you for the great video. I like it when video creators get to the point. I have had success with everything so far. However I cannot log into RR with SDRtrunk. Error msg comes up to check my credentials. I have spent a couple hours trying different things to get logged in, I know that Im logging in correctly and I do have a premium account with RR. If theres anything you could think of to get me logged in I would appreciate it. Im using the same version of sdrtrunk and java as you are in this video. Thanks so much for any advise at all.
Nothing comes to mind off the top of my head... I would say to try looking at the console output and any log files SDRtrunk creates. Past that, I'm not sure.
@@ryowens Thanks Ryan. I'll check out the logs. I appreciate you getting back to me. Take care.
Hello, and thanks for the very informative video. Others that I've watched are using two SDR's, Aren't you just using one?
I'm using one. The thing you have to consider is bandwidth. For example, when I use my SDRPlay RSPdx, it has 10MHz bandwidth, so it can cover the full range of the Ohio MARCS system in my home area. When I run on an RTL dongle, the bandwidth of that receiver is only like 2MHz or something, so it will miss some traffic as it can't span the full spectrum from the lowest channel to the highest channel in the system. You can see this happening in the sdrtrunk log - it will have messages about "no Tuner available." I didn't realize this until after I made these videos, as it worked perfectly with my RSPdx, then it seemed to also be working fine with the cheap dongle. Only later did I start looking at the logs out of curiosity, see the messages and dig in to why they were there.
@@ryowens Thanks for the reply. I have about a thousand more questions but for now, I'll ask one. Can you put the trunked system and some VHF channels to scan all at once?
@Radsmachine I have not attempted that and don't know the answer. I've thought about it, but never tried it. Can't help you with that one.
Sadly im stuck on the JMBE Library updater Its stuck at "please wait..."
Work with SDR Play RSP DX!
ua-cam.com/users/liveDDkm_wGKwRE?feature=share This is a 24/7 live SDR for Police Fire and EMS for Houston Texas. SDRTrunk software with a Discone Antenna. P25
RTL-2832 USB Bus:3 Port: 13 Status: Error - Unsupported/Unrecognized Tuner Type. If i reset the turner I get an error Status: Error - access denied - if using linux, blacklist the default driver and /or install udev rules. I'm running windows 11, and have a RTL-2832, any help to get this to work would be great.
ok when i hit play it says no tuner... but i have a waterfall at 100 mhz
Yeah you have to pay for a premium account for that.
Yes. See the video description text, where that is noted.
I ran into problems with radio reference. They NOW require a premium subscription, so this is all for not. Thanks for your post though.
Unfortunately, that is true. When I made the video, I had a premium subscription and didn't realize it mattered. Someone pointed this out a few days after I posted the video, which is why I address this in the video description. It is still entirely possible to use the software though. You just have to do a little more work manually.
Get a 6 month sub and then don't renew. Its not expensive and it makes it so much easier
Describe when in operation, the function and what each Tiny Track 4 LED is showing us in real time
Man this stuff is gonna drive me to drinking heavily. I understand the program and have everything working correctly with everything showing up right in events but no matter what I do there is no sound. LMBE is update and loads correctly and if I put a random frequency in I get static sound so I know pc sound is good. I’m on Lawrence, Co. Ohio P25-1. I have all sound toggled on aliases etc.
If you gave up on getting sound by now, look up how to enable Windows sound mixer if you're using windows. It was the only way I got sound. If you're not using Windows then i can't help with that
Having this same issue. Super annoying
Brilliant video, very helpful! Thank you. ;)
(Mr. Ryan) Sir, a question please: how do I DELETE unwanted (created by mistake) Aliases and delete everything inside of an alias? Thank you - excellent video. I followed you and it works: I made a few mistakes - hey, things happen. Thanks again.
Off the top of my head, I don't know how to do it through the UI, but all of that gets saved into the playlist XML I think. Personally, I would just go edit that directly when the app is not running.
Well I'll be damned. Hi from Dayton!
Thanks for your video instructions on both videos, Ryan. I followed along and paused them step by step and now I am enjoying listening to a LSM system with SDRTrunk that was hardly listenable before on my scanner. Your tutorial was clear and thorough.
To use Sdrrunk must I must obligatorly have one against Premium at RadioRefference? Isn't it possible for free?
Wonderful tutorial! I have an install following your instructions that works on a Win 11 box and one that fails on a Win 10 box. The failure displays the command line window briefly but quits without the UI window displaying. The Win 10 box also has a running v0.4 version but now does not display the extensive playlist I made and backed up. Both boxes only use Win Defender. Any advice on fix the Win 10 install?
I'm really not sure. I would recommend opening a command prompt window and trying to run the command to start the software from that window so you can see the error message being reported. That might give you a clue to chase. It's been a while since I made this video, but I think it uses a .bat file to launch the software. You could also add a "pause" command to the end of the batch file to try to get the window to stay open so you can read the error message.
Works great. W8SCI
Great video, thanks! The docs are a bit vague about playlists and aliases. This cleared it right up.
I noticed that you started UZ7HO soundmodem first before starting Winlink. I have mine set up so that Winlink Express starts the soundmodem. I've heard other people say to use Ackmode as well on the Packet TNC Model when using the UZ7HO soundmodem, but I've never had any issues with it on Normal. I'm not sure what the difference is though.
Ryan, I have a problem similar to the other comment, I installed per your video. System works fime for a couple of minutes and then quits working or plays an occassional part of a conversation every now and then. Any advice on where to look to begin to troubleshoot this? Please. Thank You
I haven't experienced that issue, so unfortunately I don't have an answer. I know that some of the RTL-SDR dongle have some thermal issues. Is it possible that your receiver is overheating? Just a guess.
@@ryowens Ryan, that is possible, both get quite warm. Is there a dongle that you would like to recommend?
@Peter Van Den Berge I have limited experience with different ones. I know that the ones from the rtl-sdr dot com site claim to have good thermal characteristics by having metal cases and heat sink elements. I've ran one of those for extended periods without issue, but that's about all I can say.
Ryan, Just want to thank you for your helpful hints on my report of intermittent operation on the dongles and software. After several trials and errors I found 2 thing that affected the outcome the most: 1, adjusting the receiver gain for a "sweet spot". 2, using separate antennas for each of the 2 dongle receivers. Working well now, enjoying it. Thank you, Pete
Excellent video. Thanks.
HI I NEED YOUR HELP i have set up my RTLSDR dongle as you say to do and it is work but i have one problem the voice is clear on to receive but after 10minutes it cuts out and i can't understand any thing it songs all GARGLE and i cant understand anything CAN YOU LPEASE TELL ME WHAT TO DO TO FIX IT THANKS
Hmmm.... Unfortunately that is not an issue I have had. I'm not sure what would cause that. I'm not involved with the development of SDRTrunk, but perhaps you can reach out to the group that writes that software? Sorry I don't have an idea for your problem.
HI I NEED YOUR HELP i have set up my RTLSDR dongle as you say to do and it is work but i have one problem the voice is clear on to receive but after 10minutes it cuts out and i can't understand any thing it songs all GARGLE and i cant understand anything CAN YOU LPEASE TELL ME WHAT TO DO TO FIX IT THANKS
Cool video, Ryan. I monitor the exact same system you do. I tried the Max Traffic Channels at >1, as you suggested. I remembered then why I found that setting early on and shut that down. Chaos! IDK how you do it man! But your video reminded me of it and got me thinking. The problem with one channel only is ignored aliases will dominate other calls with silence and priority doesn't do anything at all. But if I can figure out the priority with >1 channel so that the calls aren't walking all over one another, I'd be a happy camper. If you know to do that, I'd love to see a video. I miss the pre-trunk days where you could stop the scan on District 4, or whatever, and hang with something going down. I'd like to try to accomplish this, or something close, too somehow.