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Agreed!! Didn’t think that it would make that much difference until I could try it myself.

Thanks for watching! I have been super impressed with the adjustability!!! Good luck in the woods this season!

Great questions! When I set up a bow these days I like to use a longer stabilizer and look down from the top of the bow on the limb bolts and line the arrow up with the stabilizer. This usually gets somewhere close to 3/16 off the riser. This gave me a slight right tear, with less than a quarter turn on the SET tech both top and bottom, we were shooting bullets. The SET tech is great ant the adjustability of the Ethos makes it a great choice for just about every type of shooter.

@@brosbeforebowshunting Nice. I have a Kairos and when I left the shop the SET was maxed because of right tear. Didn't like it so after looking around some I downloaded the tune guide from Elite. They say center shot at 7/8" so I checked mine and it was 13/16. Moved it to 7/8 and recenter the SET adjustment. Had a slight right tear so did 1/4 or 1/2 turn on the set adjustment and it was good. Started dl at 29 and ended at 29.5 so that now is maxed for dl, backed limb bolts out a half turn too. 70lb limbs, if they would have had 65lb in stock would have got that. Definitely a nice shooting bow

That’s awesome! Definitely one of the reasons why I like to do my own setups. The center shot number is definitely not as important as having the arrow leaving the bow straight! Good luck in the woods this season!

Thanks for watching! Mountain Archery Fest has become one of our most favorite events! We will be shooting TAC in sunlight Colorado in a couple weeks!

Hey thanks for tuning in! That is definitely one thing that I have noticed about draw cycles, over time you get accustomed to it and it really doesn’t affect your accuracy. Secondly, yes I do punch that button, this footage was an attempt to bring me to that reality. I am working on it and you may see some different releases in my hands in future videos. Stay tuned!

@@brosbeforebowshunting I will stay tuned.

Thanks for tuning in, I can understand why you would say that, most if not all of the major players are using some kind of innovative integration of accessories. That being said, still shooting the Ethos and it’s quickly becoming a top contender for the elk woods this season.

Thanks for watching! This bow is quickly becoming one of my favorites!

Thanks for watching!

We appreciate you tuning in! To tell you the truth, I was super close to buying the Omnia last year, I was super impressed with the performance but I tend to enjoy a 33 inch ATA. When they came out with the Ethos, I knew I was going to get one. This bow continues to impress me!

Thanks for watching! I’m loving it more and more every day!!!

Hey thanks for watching! All great and valid points about the pic mount system. I was just trying to say that for versatility that would be my choice. I have shot the spot Hogg fast eddy direct mount for the past few years and have found that peep and scope alignment with 3/16 peep at my draw length is perfect. Tru ball’s pic version is adjustable in and out and most are at very similar length from the riser. The times that I have torque tuned in the past it always seems to end up the same distance from the riser as the direct mount option anyway. I’m not sure how a pic mount version would actually weigh more than the dovetail direct mount or be a step backwards, but to each his own. Good luck in the woods! Thanks for watching and commenting!!

@@brosbeforebowshunting Pic is lighter for sure, but the B3 frame so late it's insignificant. (I shoot single pin out to ~45 making holdover adjustment in my head so I prefer a very light/simple & fixed frame like the B3 Hunter. XL scope housing included, the entire site with dovetail is maybe 6 ounces!)

oops... "so light it's insignificant"

​@@brosbeforebowshunting Didn't realize the Axcel mount was adjustable like that. Most are not & that's a great feature. (Looks like they just finally updated their website. I've been looking at Axcel sights/frames for years but decided to keep things simple.)

Hey thanks for watching, the revex has draw specific modules. If you want a true 27 inch draw you need to purchase that module. There are some tricks to shorten your draw length a little but a half inch I would recommend getting the correct module.

@@brosbeforebowshunting Is there a link to the module?

@@brosbeforebowshunting Is there a link to the module?

The easiest way is to contact the nearest prime dealer and have them send you one, Straight Six archery in Montana has always been great to work with, even if you are halfway across the country if they can help you out they will!

One of my favorite bow videos this year. Actually it was my favorite…and most informal. I have a PSE Omen 80# E2 (its kinda crazy 🤪 Also have a bowtech SR 350 (i would kill for 80 lbs limbs for that) I hoping Bowtech steps it up im the #80 department. Do you think the Mathews lift will be as efficient with heavier arrows with just the modules & not having 80lbs limbs?

Thanks for watching, we are definitely not the best at producing or editing videos but sometimes we get it right. Thank you!

Dang man that will definitely get the job done!

Hey thanks for watching! I’m pretty sure that you won’t find a cam that will out perform the PSE E2 cam. You do sacrifice some comfort in the draw cycle but if you can get used to it this combo is deadly. Thanks again for the comment!

@@brosbeforebowshunting thanks for the info and review. Seriously thinking about switching from APA to PSE Levitate

No problem, good luck in the woods!

You definitely could, the question would be if you would loose efficiency or not. Some engineers have said that the bow is most efficient with the limb bolts completely tight.

If I remember correctly on the e2 cam that would be the f setting on the module for 30 inches

Hey Joseph thanks for watching! That is a great question, Josh shoots a 30 inch draw, I shoot 29-29.5 inch draw depending on the bow. We have both hunted with and shot the levitate for a couple of years now. It’s probably one of the most efficient platforms we have ever used. To answer your question, you can expect a decrease of 4-5 FPS per half inch of draw length. Thanks for the comment!

@@brosbeforebowshunting appreciate it. I figured about that. I just got a Levitate. Honestly I wasn't sure about it and the 80#.. but when I shot it man it felt so good

Thank you! It has been a bit.

Thank you for watching!! To be honest when I was looking at the “speed bows” it was between the Z1S and the Omen. I do like that they offer it in an 80# option and would probably be doing the same thing as you! Thanks for the comment!

Thanks for watching! Definitely stiffer than most, it also has that hump right before the valley. I found that after a couple weeks the draw became less noticeable. Thanks for the comment!

Thanks for watching! That is a great question, if adjustability is what you want/need the Black 5 is the way to go. The Black 5 is a bit heavier and has more vibration on the shot, but is still every bit as accurate as the revex 6. In addition to adjusting the draw length, with the black 5 you can also adjust the let off, which is something that I would love to have on the revex. Either way I don’t think you can make a bad choice. Let us know what you decide!

There are so many attributes that the Revex has that make it a fun to shoot! I would have to agree with you, out of all of the bows that I have owned the most accurate, easy to aim bow that I have ever shot. I liked it so much that I went and purchased the Revex 4 and will most likely shoot that next hunting season! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!!

@brosbeforebowshunting I did not like the string angles on the 4. With the centergrip tech I have to shoot the longer ATA. 31"DL 63# 427gr at 287fps

@pronghornobsession totally understand at 31 inch draw that angle would be a bit steep.

Thanks for watching! We have trying to find a way to get our hands on an APA for testing. They look like a beast of a bow!

Hey thanks for watching! I agree, this day and age you would think that they could design an efficient adjustable mod system. That being said, the prime Revex 6 is an absolute TAC driver. Stay tuned, we will take a look at the Hoyt z 1 s and maybe the bowtech s x 80.

Thanks for watching! We have been super busy these days!

Hey Mike thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching! It took us a minute to see him also, meanwhile getting eaten alive by the mosquitoes! Some pretty cool shots!

Thanks for watching, the inline is a bit louder than the other bows from that year. I purchased a string stop from Hi tek archery called the sand trap. It completely changed and dampened the noise at the shot.

@@brosbeforebowshunting yeah, I ordered one to give it a shot. Anything woukd be better than this. My ct9 shoots much, much quieter.

Thank you for watching! Both bows are great we have found that over time the draw characteristics after a while don’t make much difference. At 80 lbs the Hoyt is easier to handle.

@@brosbeforebowshunting That's why I'm considering an 80# RX7 to replace my 70# RX4Turbo. Should be a bit faster with a better draw cycle than the Z1S at 70#, but like you said I'm sure you get acclimated to it.

Hey thanks for watching! The Revex 6 has been a great bow. I plan on doing a proper review soon. There are a couple of things that I had to get use to but overall one of my favorites this year! Stay tuned for the full review!

@@brosbeforebowshunting I will surely watch, I got a chance to try the Inline last year and the draw felt pretty stiff for a 65 lb bow. Made me wait another year. My RX-3 ultra leaves a lot to be desired but it keeps killing every deer I shoot at. I was a tad disappointed the Revex switched to DL specific modules, but from what I understand they had to do that to avoid some sort of legal trouble?

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Thank you for the info!

Hey Miguel thanks for watching! We both have enjoyed shooting the PSE bows! Definitely easier to tune these days! Thank you for your input!

Hey thanks for watching! The DL was 30” for that test.

@@brosbeforebowshunting thanks for the reply, I shoot a 29 so I’m just trying to get an idea on speeds. 80# is the way to go, keep up the great content.

Thank you! Stay tuned!

Hey Tim thanks for watching! In that video we were shooting a 528 grain arrow. We have been discussing putting together a new arrow build video discussing what we have been shooting lately. Stay tuned!

Thanks for watching! I actually used both of the bows last year! I took the levitate on my Utah hunt and the RX7 Ultra on my Colorado hunt. It was awesome to pack a light bow in elk woods. We are undecided for this year. We have some bows to check out still so stay tuned in!

Hey Henry, thanks for watching! When you install the yoke, you need new cables. Instead of a separate floating yoke the cables are split. They just cross in the grooves. Sorry I didn’t make it more clear. Best of luck! Let me know if you have any other questions!

@@brosbeforebowshunting okay! I am looking more at specs for the bow and will purchase the strings. I just wasn’t sure how it installed onto the yoke then onto the bow. I think if I watch more and more I’ll figure it out! Thank you for the reply! Also wasn’t trying to be rude about the music comment but just couldn’t figure it out at first.

Not sure you know about my ground game.

What do you know about anything?

@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 a lot actually carry on..

@Megam3at yea right....

@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 stay salty

Thank you for watching! Yep, western Colorado. There isn’t much south San Diego is there?

That looks like grand Mesa in the back there isn’t it?

Might be

Hey thanks for watching! Prime has always been in our top picks, we both keep kicking around the idea of getting one of the new Bowtech models. Let us know how you like the ss34! Good luck in the woods!

Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts! Mathews has made some great innovations in the past, we wanted to address the new ones for 2023. In our opinion the bows cam, tuning, mod system and performance haven’t changed in the past 3-4 years. We had high hopes and always look forward to what Mathews has to offer. Don’t take it personal, we were under whelmed. We both have been given the green light to pick a 2023 bow, stay tuned to see what we end up with!

@brosbeforebowshunting I'm truthfully not a fan of a binary cam system with cam lean by design and cable pressures tied directly to the cams without free floating yokes that is spread out farther away from the cams on the Advanced Vectoring System to balance the load in my testing on a drawboard with a arrow used as a straight edge against the shelf of the cams at brace is dead behind the string at the Dloop to mimic the powerstroke of the shot the same as I would yoke tune a Solocam and at full draw the cams are straight running 1/8 Parallel along side the string and I shoot perfect bullets though paper with the Vertix it's tough to beat the switch weight crosscentric cams for tuning but cam lean from different manufacturers I exclusively look at closely that's all part of horizontal nock travel and seen worse on other top manufacturers that never gets mentioned.

Thanks for watching! After putting out this video we have had a lot of feedback on the Revex, don’t misunderstand what we said, as soon as I can, I will definitely get my hands on that bow. Prime has always been one of my favorites. Unfortunately where we live makes it a little more challenging and or expensive for us to truly put a Prime to the test. When we do we will definitely let you know what we think! Stay tuned!

Hey Travis thanks for watching! Great points, we totally agree!! We would love to see If Bowtech works on an inline type sight mount also. Thank you for your comments!!

Hey Steven thanks for watching! There is no doubt that it is impressive, maybe our expectations are just too high.

@@brosbeforebowshunting it’s a fair point, I think the technology has peaked. They can’t get any faster without some major innovations and still be smooth. I think little tweaks is all we will see until someone comes up with a game changer

We were kinda hoping for the game changers this year, I guess we will have to see what next year brings! Stay tuned, we have some great content coming!

Thank you for watching and commenting! Good luck with the sx 80, let us know what you think!

Fair enough, we didn’t mean to “thrash” anyone but usually for us trying it is quite an investment. We are several miles from any of the major dealers and truly trying it is more than 2-3 arrows through a whisker biscuit and no sight.

@@brosbeforebowshunting not hating..

Great point