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Cheap And Easy PV Resistive Power Point Water Heater Controller Diverter Using LM358
It doesn't get easier than this super efficient controller which matches a PV array to heating element under any sun conditions.
Designed as a low cost PV ice melter for chickens water source using a 12V panel, this can be adapted to any voltage PV array changing capacitors and FET. This runs without issues. Any op amp can be used like a quad LM324 which has rail to rail output swings. Those extra op amps can add temperature shut off and arc interrupt.
Anyone want to collaborate and lay out a board? You could become a hero and make money building these.
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Simplified IR2103 Power Point Efficient PV Water Heater Control
Переглядів 31821 день тому
Everyone wants simple. This is simple and has the minimum parts count to be a good stable circuit. Funny thing is circuits which have more features only use about a half dozen more parts. This uses the Schmidt trigger inverting input of an IR2103 or IR2102 and the low voltage lockout to make it stable as PV voltages rises in the morning. The circuit keeps the panels at near power point voltage ...
SUN DISTRIBUTOR TESTER Neon Tube Pulse Tests
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Some tests to see the output of the typical strobe system of the 1940's.
SUN DISTRIBUTOR TESTER Is Your Neon Strobe Tube Bad
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Before deciding to replace tube or buy a capacitor kit there are tests you should perform. WARNING: There are voltages of over 500V DC present as well as 120V AC.
SUN DISTRIBUTOR MACHINE CALIBRATOR For Tach and Dwell
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To build a calibrator for your SUN distributor machine is fairly easy. Just buy a cheap PWM generator ($7) and a FET of greater than 20A and 150V. Drive the gate thru a 100 ohm resistor and provide a small heat sink.
SUN DISTRIBUTOR Rebuild part 6 Final assembly LED Conversion
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The SUN machine wiring is finally finished (almost). The disk is not fully balanced yet and the Dwell circuit needs conversion from 6V to 12V.
SUN DISTRIBUTOR REBUILD Part 5 Disassembled Head And Backplate
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All the removed electronics prior to installation of DWELL FLASH module. This removed electronics is available to restore your damaged machine. Contact me if interested.
SUN DISTRIBUTOR REBUILD Part 4 Existing Power Supply And Neon Flash Tube
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A view of internals before removal.
SUN DISTRIBUTOR REBUILD Part 3 DWELL Calibration Of A 50 Module
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Steps to calibrate dwell on a 50 module and machine internals before rebuild.
SUN DISTRIBUTOR REBUILD Part 2 Tach Calibration Using PWM/DUTY CYCLE Module & LED Strobe 50 Module
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Stroboscopic calibration of tach using electronic calibrator.
SUN DISTRIBUTOR REBUILD Part 1 Introduction To 500 Machine
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Replacement for battery packs and adjustment of the MODULE 50 Tach and Dwell. This 500 machine has internal 6V supply and had Paramount capacitor kit installed. That did not fix the weak neon tube. This will get the DWELL SPARK module with LED. This will become a 12V machine capable of running magnetic distributors. Anyone needing a rebuilt power supply should contact me. This one is available ...
Slowest 60A DC To DC Solid State Relay I've Tested With Photocoupler, Potential Burn Up
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This photocoupler can't supply enough current to charge the gate fast enough. Likely due to large gate capacitance of the FET. Many solar charge controllers with PWM diversion would burn this up due to slow ramp up causing FET heating.
Destroy A DC 60A Splid Stare Relay With Analog Signal, Teardown & Repair
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This relay has a snap turn on but turn off is analog with no gate drive protection. Low control voltage can drive the FET gate in a linear region causing excessive FET heating which will destroy the relay. Gate needs at least 6V for any reasonable current. Internally this is an IRFP4332 FET rated at only 57A at 25C at the junction. That drops to 40A at 100C, a more realistic number. My prior qu...
PV Cooking Pot, Circuit To Control Input Voltage To Maintain Power Point
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This five component circuit will fake a buck or boost converter into ramping down the output voltage when the input voltage goes below a set voltage. There are many variations of this circuit using TL431, op-amp, transistor and microprocessor.
PV Cooking For {NOT} Dummies. Keep Panel At Power Point With Boost Converter And 100W 12V Panel
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Found a pot which was 600W at 120V which has a resistance of 21 ohms. This small pot is a steamer, the reason for the high wattage. Most are way more than double this resistance and less than half the wattage. This makes it possible to use a boost converter with a 12V panel. I had a 300W boost converter which was pretty typical with an idle current of 20ma, 100V capacitors and was set up with a...
Going To POT, Repair Is Often About The Unexpected And Impossible
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Going To POT, Repair Is Often About The Unexpected And Impossible
RYOBI P102 18V Battery Pack Revival And Trick To Make It Easier The Next Time
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RYOBI P102 18V Battery Pack Revival And Trick To Make It Easier The Next Time
Reducing Relay Heat And Current With A Time Delay Modified Buck Converter
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Reducing Relay Heat And Current With A Time Delay Modified Buck Converter
500W Intelligent UP/DOWN Transformer Modifications, What's Inside These
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500W Intelligent UP/DOWN Transformer Modifications, What's Inside These
I've Been SNIFFING Around, Build A Sniffing Coil To See Where Noise Is Coming From
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I've Been SNIFFING Around, Build A Sniffing Coil To See Where Noise Is Coming From
Turn A Voltage Relay Into An On Delay Timer With Resistor & Capacitor
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Turn A Voltage Relay Into An On Delay Timer With Resistor & Capacitor
60A DC SSR Bites The Big One, The END of Stupified Solar
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60A DC SSR Bites The Big One, The END of Stupified Solar
Converting Capacitive Dropping Electronics To Low Voltage, 12V Nite Light
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Converting Capacitive Dropping Electronics To Low Voltage, 12V Nite Light
STC-1000 Temperature Control With An Interesting Twist
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STC-1000 Temperature Control With An Interesting Twist
BTS7960 Turned Into A 12V (18Vmpp) PV Camp Water Heater part 3 Improved Timing
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BTS7960 Turned Into A 12V (18Vmpp) PV Camp Water Heater part 3 Improved Timing
BTS7960W Becomes A Power Point PV Water Heater For Arrays Under 40V, Direct Power, part 2
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BTS7960W Becomes A Power Point PV Water Heater For Arrays Under 40V, Direct Power, part 2
BTS7960 Used As A High Side Or Low Side SSR part 1
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BTS7960 Used As A High Side Or Low Side SSR part 1
Testing A 60A DC To DC Solid State Relay, What The Heck Is All This Noise?
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Testing A 60A DC To DC Solid State Relay, What The Heck Is All This Noise?
Direct Power 4, Self Powered PV SSR Control For Direct Connect Water Heater Element
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Direct Power 4, Self Powered PV SSR Control For Direct Connect Water Heater Element
Direct Power 3, Ryobi Clone Battery Charger Running From 60V PV
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Direct Power 3, Ryobi Clone Battery Charger Running From 60V PV

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  • @sammaimas155
    @sammaimas155 3 дні тому

    Hi, I have watched your videos over the years and it seems to me a non electronics person that you are a pretty smart, innovative bloke. I am interested in off grid solar, simple electronics etc. I find when you are explaining your work you are talking to electronics engineers and professionals and you are way above my understanding. Maybe if you could do a series of videos showing how to build a hot water system and see it working would be great. I think It would boost your subscribers as well. Just a thought. I am an old guy and I find I get brain fog as well trying to understand what you are doing, but it sure looks interesting. I am sure a lot of people are interested in your work.

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 22 години тому

      Not likely to happen. Every system is different and my installations are not typical. Not about to make 15 minute videos where they only connect two wires together. I talk to everyone as if they are an adult. I try to be technically correct. I don't expect anyone to completely understand in five minutes. That is what pause and rewind are for. These are new ideas that won't be found elsewhere. Ask questions like what does that resistor do. It isn't possible for me to think like before I knew electronics any more than you to think like when you were a child. We would be better parents if we could. This is supposed to be a community effort. This style is also a filter. Thes can be dangerous systems and the majority of those in solar have little understanding of electricity. I tell them they have to do five things to be safe and they do the three things they want to. In most cases, these systema are illegal. I don't want people crying my insurance won't pay. I can't send a picture with my cell phone. Probably not stupid. I just have no motivation to send cat pictures. If I really wanted to, it would be figured out. I don't care if you heat water, I want you to learn something. Making things easy for the viewer won't make them learn. I'm OK with YT stats telling me they click off after 10 seconds. YT is filled with idiots copying another's video. Nobody copies these hot water videos. You can only make money by posting low quality. This channel has cost me thousands.

  • @BobFiske
    @BobFiske 3 дні тому

    I did build a little Window comparator with a 324 about ten years ago to run a Solar Hot Air heater. That was pretty successful. Still trying!

  • @BobFiske
    @BobFiske 3 дні тому

    I’m sorry you have been discouraged by the response. I’ve been glued to these designs for two years or so.. I built the sg3525a circuit.. but overheated my fets and stalled out for a while. I really never studied electronics properly enough to get good at the bits that you juggle in your sleep there. Most of the other techs I work with in Heat Pumps and Solar think I’M way out ahead.. but I have a long way to go. I just think most service guys I work around know how to read resistance and voltage, enough to get to ‘swap out the board’ with tech support. Don’t give up, please.

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 3 дні тому

      For power supplies you want to go as fast as possible in order to use as small a transformer as possible. I avoided going fast to limit noise with these high current circuits. My gate resistors are much higher in value than typical. I have a shortwave receiver and I can stick the antenna right on the FET and not pick up noise. Switching transitions can produce a lot of heat. The TL494 is a much better switcher in water heating applications. I only used the 3525 because that is found in the 300W inverter boards.

    • @BobFiske
      @BobFiske 2 дні тому

      Can you tell me if this current LM324 circuit is able to work with Residential Water Heater elements with their Thermostatic switches? I was drawn to the 3525 circuit because of the dead zone aspect.. but maybe there are other workarounds to avoid degrading the T-stat contacts with arcing. Are there such features in the above 324 version? (As mentioned before, I have already played with this Op-amp a little, and feel a bit more confident with it.. though I'm still eager to make the 3525 circuit go as well. Someone gave me an old (70's anyway) BK1405 single channel Scope from a High School science dept, and it works enough to see some basic waveform info.. just no spelled out Volt and Freq info.. so I'm getting my head wrapped around that as well. I appreciate the low freq approach, and the simple circuits for taking quick advantage of the best of PV's potential.

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 23 години тому

      @@BobFiske If a circuit board was to be made for the LM358, the LM324 with two extra op amps would be included with temperature controller and arc interrupt. That is unlikely to ever happen. The 358 circuit works fine for water heating as long as components to take that voltage are used. Just switch power to the control electronics with thermostat. Arc interrupt is nice only if you need it. You can not store enough power in the off time to prevent efficiency drop at FULL POWER. I think you should work on getting what you have now working correctly before jumping to something else. Your FET are probably too small. Need at least 10X rating of expected current. That scope is perfectly fine.

  • @BobFiske
    @BobFiske 3 дні тому

    There are some of us Solar guys that don’t want to do direct connect. Thanks for the ongoing designs and tips. I’m trying to catch up!

  • @hydroalternation
    @hydroalternation 3 дні тому

    Brain fog thats what im gonna use LOL @ 10:02

  • @undercode2001
    @undercode2001 3 дні тому

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 3 дні тому

    Designed as a low cost PV ice melter for chickens water source using a 12V panel, this can be adapted to any voltage PV array changing capacitors and FET. This runs without issues. Any op amp can be used like a quad LM324 which has rail to rail output swings. Those extra op amps can add temperature shut off and arc interrupt. Only about 20W is needed to melt ice and this will provide that with only 1A of panel current. The three 1500uF 35V Low ESR capacitors in parallel provide that in a small package. Any low resistance FET can be used. A IRF4332 would get you to 250V. A couple in parallel wouldn't need much of a heat sink. This connected to a 600W 120V steamer pot would make a great off grid cooker with a 40V grid panel or two 12V panels in series. Anyone want to collaborate and lay out a board? You could become a hero and make money building these.

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 16 днів тому

    Don't dismiss this controller because of its simplicity. I've watched this for days with a scope and this controller is as good as it gets for a control without thermal tracking and arc interrupt. Cheap enough that one can be made for each heating element and a cost similar to a solid state relay from China. Differential voltage is only 2V on a 60V system, about as good as you can get with a capacitive storage system. I did make one change to lower noise even more. Gate resistor was changed from 27 ohm to 100 ohm. I can put the antenna of my ATS-20+ shortwave receiver on the drain of the FET and still not pick up noise. I' not going to bother with anymore simple designs, this is simple and cheap enough. A TL431 can replace the 13V zener to reduce the number of items to purchase. Just use a 4XR for the upper resistor and 1XR for the lower, like 6.8K and 27K or use 4 X 6.8K resistors in series.

  • @jimmy_Ross
    @jimmy_Ross 21 день тому

    resistors are very very cheap so do it the wright way people

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 20 днів тому

      For some they aren't cheap. For solar people this is probably their first venture into electronics and ordering multiple values is expensive. They may be starting out without even a soldering iron. I worked for a place where I would agonize over adding an additional 1/3 cent resistor for days. Insertion rate was $.45 per component. That was back when that was real money. It would mean the difference between getting a contract and losing it.

  • @jimmy_Ross
    @jimmy_Ross 21 день тому

    isnt there a better way to do all this lol if you have all the parts you ever need then im sure you could make one better then this sure it will get more complicated but but thats life either let china do stuff like this or do it the right way not the cheap chineese way

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 20 днів тому

      The most popular electronic videos on YT have less than 5 parts. More than that people just give up. It is irrational. Put one part in ever two days and it is finished in a month. YT is nothing but voyeurs wanting to see things blow up. I can't really concern myself with the no talent solar community that has no understanding of PV or electricity. This is just an exercise in design. At least it works properly. That can not be said for other designs I've seen which have serious technical flaws.

    • @noldushumlesnurr6169
      @noldushumlesnurr6169 20 днів тому

      "IF you have all the parts".... so fare my premium to get the parts is $5 a piece. All the carriers "loose" my packages.

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 19 днів тому

      @noldushumlesnurr6169 Yes, these small charges add up quickly and I am sensitive to that. I have the belief that electronics should be free. Discarded electronics that are more than 10 years old, before surface mount components, are a great source. A lot of value substitutions can be made. I will be making a couple more versions using more common parts instead of the FET driver. My next will be the wall wart control made from a cell phone charger. Then there will be an op amp version. I grew up harvesting parts from old electronics.

  • @frenchcreekvalley
    @frenchcreekvalley 21 день тому

    Try running that thing solid ON at 50 amps at 50 VDC for a half hour and see what happens.

  • @tomwalker2457
    @tomwalker2457 21 день тому

    Opera, do you still offer your module for the early Sun distributor machines? Specifically the "Master Distributor Tester" Thanx, Tom

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 20 днів тому

      The weather and scheduling has kept me from finishing my last install. Trying to make some more videos and update instructions, particularly balancing before any more shipments. I am producing more at this time. Should be done by mid Feb 25.

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 21 день тому

    Everyone wants simple. This is simple and has the minimum parts count to be a good stable circuit. Funny thing is circuits which have more features only use about a half dozen more parts. This uses the Schmidt trigger inverting input of an IR2103 or IR2102 and the low voltage lockout to make it stable as PV voltages rises in the morning. The circuit keeps the panels at near power point voltage to make it efficient transfer of energy into a fixed resistance. Energy is stored in a capacitor bank in off periods. A FET of sufficient voltage and current of at least 10X panel current should be used or multiple FET to reach that current. I used a FAKE IR3205 which had a tested breakdown voltage of 83V for the output. Gate capacitance of 5nf indicated tha this probably had a current rating of over 80A. It seems to run cool. A real IR3205 FET is rated at 110A and 55V, breakdown voltage will be about 63V. It is hard to get parts that are real these days. This test is using the 6,000uf of my existing water heater control. I just turn that off and connect any experimental circuit to the three banana jacks in the front panel. Voltage sensing is done with a TL431 with a reference voltage of 2.5V. A 0.22uf capacitor filters some noise and provides a slight time delay. TL431 output can drop as low as 2V and the following LED and silicon diode offset the voltage 2.1V to the Schmidt inverting input of the FET driver. Again, that input has a 0.22uF to provide a delayed on and off to provide stability and prevent short pulses from noise. Using inverting drivers can be a bit tricky at morning startup. Using an opto isolator or PNP transistor simplifies design but adds additional components. At full sun, the FET turns on and stays on. Frequency is free range depending on size of capacitor bank and heating element resistance. There is no arc interrupt in this design. Thermostat can control board power to shut down. I saw between 30 and 300 Hz in this test. For higher voltages than 60V, add an additional 330 ohms resistance for each 5V over 60V array voltage. Each resistor should not be over 1,000 ohms when using half watt resistors. This can work with any voltage array. Just select the correct capacitor voltage. There are small switching 120V AC supplies which run fine off DC and can be used in place of dropping resistors. FET or IGBT can be used for the output. Generally, IGBT used over 200V because of cost. Multiple HV FET can be used in parallel.

  • @melaniep.117
    @melaniep.117 22 дні тому

    Thanks for this video. Could you explane how you choose the feedack resistor? what exactally is its purpose is in this curcuit? Exactally how it's wired in relation to pins 2, 4, and 5? and how to determine the resistance needed (100k or other)? I'm quite new to electronics and trying to make a simple photometer

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 21 день тому

      Two of those pins are for preset gain and compensation. The 100K was for a mid gain for what I was doing at the time. These are from China and cheap. Could be fake or not meet factory specifications. Suggest reading data sheet for full info on gain. I built another pickup which had a 10K resistor in series with 100K pot to cover more applications. I use this for checking LED strobe duration. I just did a video with a neon strobe from the 50's and 5 pulses can be easily seen in a 32us period. I had to place it some distance away because at 10K ohm it still clipped the amplifier. ua-cam.com/video/ZKPJTY4_HCU/v-deo.html

  • @johnstone-gh9nj
    @johnstone-gh9nj 23 дні тому

    Hello Opera, Sorry If I'm on the Incorrect thread. Can you help, I'll make It short. I have a 48v Solar panel system Just pre heating my CH system only. No Inverter. Completely off grid. Just a Solar Charge Controller and lead batteries. Works brilliant. One problem. When set at the battery under Voltage cut off It doesn't do so (I have tried resetting) It does cut off when It reaches Overcharge setting. Any Idea what may be the problem. I'm trying to keep It as simple as possible and not adding anything that puts an extra draw on the Solar power.

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 23 дні тому

      I don't know what a CH system is. Assume heating is from battery. Controller voltage controls are notorious for not working well. An external voltage relay is a better solution.

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 25 днів тому

    WARNING: DC voltages of over 500V are present as well as 120V AC. Be very careful around these circuits. It came as a surprise to me that the neon tube pulsed 4 to 5 times in a 32 microseconds period of the flash. At a 40Hz firing rate, voltage on the 47 ohm current limiting resistor of the power supply was only about a millivolt. Certainly, this resistor does not serve the same function of dropping voltage in typical tube rectifier replacement circuits. The voltage will be about 50 volts higher with the silicon diodes replacing the vacuum rectifier tube. Raising the voltage an additional 31V gave no indication that raising voltage would increase the light output of a weak tube. This tube was tested with my voltage withstand tester and 2200V was not enough to fire the tube. The capacitor in the head measured 0.25uF. If your tube is weak, it is worth a try adding an additional capacitance of the same size or slightly larger on the board in the back with the center contact brush to make the strobe brighter. The additional on time should not be an issue in blurring the pointer.

  • @TechHEN
    @TechHEN 26 днів тому

    please Help😣😣 my jesverty DC power supply capacitor over hating and i changed but still the same problems

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 25 днів тому

      Not much t go on. Does the supply still work with the capacitor overheating. It could be a shorted diode allowing AC on the input capacitor(s), are there two? Or is the output capacitor seeing over voltage. Post a video of the insides and what tests have been done.

  • @MrLittlemonkey1979
    @MrLittlemonkey1979 Місяць тому

    thank you for the video, I had an issue with the button being jammed when I don't use the Navage liquid thingy, I prefer making my own. After opening the apparel i found the thing that blocks the button when the top cap isn't close properly. I manage to pull on the thing which separate from the rest. I can now use the Navage system with my own nose cleaning solution without problem.

  • @peteinwisconsin2496
    @peteinwisconsin2496 Місяць тому

    Another option is to use a Lenovo laptop charger. They output 21 volts which is ideal for charging 18 volt (5s or 5s,2p of NMC cell) battery packs. Put a 10 ohm resistor in series with the supply if the battery pack is so deeply discharged that the starting surge is too great. I have seen switch mode power supplies rated for 89-270 VAC, 50 or 60 Hz, start and continue to run on as little as 35 VDC.

  • @rl3898
    @rl3898 Місяць тому

    Please hold the phone sideways I see so little of what you're talking about in portrait.

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 Місяць тому

      Yes, it is a little more inconvenient when hand held. Got used to portrait in another venue which requires that videos be in portrait.

  • @piotrekflex
    @piotrekflex Місяць тому

    thanks for sharing that! still wanted to contact you about buying LED dwell angle module but can't post a comment when my e-mail adress is there :(

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 Місяць тому

      Events have really delayed my getting this rebuild sequence finished, I am about three weeks behind. Your dwell tach module is in the 50 series that I do not have direct documentation on. Verify that the insides look like this. I still have some additional documentation to do on the conversion of the dwell/tach from 6V to 12V. This should be similar to yours. This conversion is not an easy 1, 2, 3 step or a complete package of what is needed. It requires abilities in several disciplines. Balancing alone is tricky. Review the videos closely. This is a complete removal of everything and should only be done if the flash tube is completely dead. Emails should just include the name with an A or G etc for the provider. I am still looking at mid January for parts to be received.

    • @piotrekflex
      @piotrekflex Місяць тому

      @@opera5714 thanks for reply, for me there is no rush, I will watch videos very carefully once again, my tester has dead flash tube, moreover rpm and dwell gauges are damaged mechanically. I still prefer to convert and fix this unit as getting another one in Europe will be very hard :) I think I have enough skills and time to do that heh

    • @piotrekflex
      @piotrekflex Місяць тому

      @@opera5714 the kit does not have to be complete conversion kit, I am mostly interested in the dwell flash part if it is separate module (I even have received LED conversion kit with my unit, made by company called VerSatile, haven't tried to install that yet)

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 Місяць тому

      @@piotrekflex There are dozens of these out there and nobody has had an issue with the installation. Just want to warn those who might be squeamish with electricity. Just post email name without the dot com.

    • @piotrekflex
      @piotrekflex Місяць тому

      @@opera5714 it deletes my comment when adding email just without dot com :( above I have written gmail name just delete the G

  • @SuperDutchman59
    @SuperDutchman59 Місяць тому

    the device arrived very quickly, has 2 functions, the capacitor discharger works, the high voltage device for radio components seems to work, but a problem arises when measuring polar capacitors, with a capacitor voltage of 70-100 volts and microfarads greater than 1000 microfarads, it starts to act up and gets stuck at a couple of volts and that’s it. I tried a bunch of capacitors but the problem is the same, small capacitors the device still shows voltage and simple capacitors also produce voltage. The problem of polar capacitors is not solved in it. An error in the microcircuit or a defect.

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 Місяць тому

      I would never measure capacitors with this unless they were rated in excess of 4500V. Puncture of the film will damage damage the capacitor. With electrolytics it is just measuring leakage current at best. Not a good practice.

  • @Mike-pd7uv
    @Mike-pd7uv 2 місяці тому

    This video is worthless without showing how to take apart.

  • @Mike-pd7uv
    @Mike-pd7uv 2 місяці тому

    How do you take it apart?

  • @gremlinvibe
    @gremlinvibe 2 місяці тому

    I'm just gonna buy a new one and return the old one pretending it doesn't work 😂.

  • @thomassuggs9315
    @thomassuggs9315 3 місяці тому

    Would you have one or two boards your willing to sell?? Im very I terested. Kjnd rdgards

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 3 місяці тому

      Didn't like my last answer? Your channel has no video content and that almost automatically disqualifies you from getting a board. You need to have a good technical understand of PV for this board to operate properly and install. If it stops working from a lightning strike any you can't repair it yourself, you are out of luck. This technology is inappropriate for 99.9% of the solar community. Suggest you get an actii ua-cam.com/video/x1wqhZKJJsc/v-deo.html AC7391 video

  • @thomassuggs9315
    @thomassuggs9315 3 місяці тому

    i would like to purchase one or two of these from you if you would build them for me. im guessing they are similar to techluck solar board. please advise

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 3 місяці тому

      Thank you for your interest. I heard techluck stopped production again, that was a poor design that had many failures and they refused to repair them. When they failed every semiconductor on the board was wiped out. My board was designed for diversion which is the aspect I am interested in, although it could be used stand alone. There was a lack of interest and understanding in how it worked. I had built many evaluation units and the solar community.screwed me on that by not reporting back. The person who was going to build and sell them lost interest. Project is canceled. .

  • @GWAForUTBE
    @GWAForUTBE 3 місяці тому

    Would the resistance wire from a toaster draw more/ make more efficient heat.

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 4 місяці тому

    Just got a 40A DD SSR and this is even slower than this one, 8.68ms. Again surprises. This new 40A relay has a transformer driver and what appears to be an IGBT. Saturation voltage is .756V at 0.1A and stabilizing at 1V from 1A to 3A. Never tested at higher current but that will likely climb to about 1.7V.

  • @unionse7en
    @unionse7en 4 місяці тому

    seems like the safest bet is to always use these mystery SSR's with an external driver board? Would have to do the cost comparison of cheap ssrw/external driver vs a legit brandedSSR

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 4 місяці тому

      As most people shop on price, generic relays will have an unknown construction. I Just can't say no. I just ordered another 40A, I get them free. Two in parallel may be a better consistent option due to lower gate capacitance. This will provide much lower on resistance Two in parallel is 1/4 power lost and 1/8 the heat for each SSR. The size and performance of the opto driver match up with a VOM1271.

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 4 місяці тому

    Solid state relays are like a box of chocolate. You never quite know what you will get. I swore I would never order another one of these in my last video. Now I'm done for sure. It is impossible to know what you are ordering. This all still fail from under voltage control input. Now that I look back, that transformer driven version was pretty good. This looks absolutely identical and may represent a switch to them all being photocoupler based and slow. I just can not design around an unknown. This photocoupler can't supply enough current to charge the gate fast enough. Likely due to large gate capacitance of the FET. Many solar charge controllers with PWM diversion would burn this up due to slow ramp up causing FET heating.

  • @jimmy_Ross
    @jimmy_Ross 4 місяці тому

    and i have one of those boost converters as well so what still works good as long as you put a fan on them and you can fix them easily

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 4 місяці тому

      When you want a 30% improvement by using a boost converter on a fixed resistance and half of that is lost in conversion, is that a worthwhile design. This pot when plugged into my 12V system (8W) makes a great dough proofing pot for donuts now that we have cooler days.

  • @jimmy_Ross
    @jimmy_Ross 4 місяці тому

    bro you lie ill even prove it i have 2 solar panel one from harbour freight and the other fom AMAZON and each of them ive gotten 110watt out of both of them so what are you talking about yeah they dont stay at 110 watt for more then a few minutes at a time and i live in new york and its late in the year and new york is far from the equator so shut up you dont know shit you sound stupid right now

  • @TheTubejunky
    @TheTubejunky 4 місяці тому

    Couldn't a super cap hold the voltage to a stable voltage without the need for this circuit?

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 4 місяці тому

      No, some capacitor is needed to store energy for short periods. A circuit is needed to only draw enough power to keep the panel at power point. Without that the capacitor will discharge to a point where voltage is stable and not necessarily be the most energy efficient transfer. Most videos on PV cooking are just click bait and don't function well at all.

  • @JonOffgrid
    @JonOffgrid 4 місяці тому

    👍

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 4 місяці тому

    This relay has a snap turn on but turn off is analog with no gate drive protection. Low control voltage can drive the FET gate in a linear region causing excessive FET heating which will destroy the relay. Gate needs at least 6V for any reasonable current. Internally this is an IRFP4332 FET rated at only 57A at 25C at the junction. That drops to 40A at 100C, a more realistic number. My prior quick calculation put the on resistance at about 35 milliohms and specifications are 29-33. This relay can be repaired because of the stingy use of epoxy made it easy to open..

  • @unionse7en
    @unionse7en 4 місяці тому

    put the circuit underneath the heater of the pot , get some of the eff. back lol

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 4 місяці тому

    This five component circuit will fake a buck or boost converter into ramping down the output voltage when the input voltage goes below a set voltage. There are many variations of this circuit using TL431, op-amp, transistor and microprocessor. Reducing the FET pull up resistor to 3K from 10K fixed the problem of the boost converter not turning off when the input voltage dropped to 10V. I was in a rush to do the test and see how many WH it took to get a typical meal up to temperature. Rain was predicted the next day and it was already after 10am on an east facing panel. The response was predictable from the math.

  • @AndyFletcherX31
    @AndyFletcherX31 4 місяці тому

    Will the boosted DC burn the thermostat contacts when it switches on and off? I guess if you had more panels you could use your reservoir capacitor - switching MPPT circuit to break the power at a few hundred Hz which would quench any thermostat arcs.

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 4 місяці тому

      I had more to say but my wife dragged me off shopping, Arcing could be a serious issue. The boost converter would be a minimal off the shelf solution. The boost converter never really got above 35V with that panel in fairly good conditions, Most contacts can take 30V DC, 35V DC switching on tungsten contacts could be survivable. The buck would have to be limited to that voltage, The steamer pot would be useful at home as well in a camping situation. I wanted to use an off the shelf pot. There are 50W 12V pots that some videos have connected to 100W panels. These are overpowered at times and could be damaged. Direct connect also showed them working at half power because of mismatch. That solution would require a single panel. I see RENOGY has 120W panels and that extra power is really needed. This video was to see how much power was really needed to cook a meal and I was surprised it was less than 100W. These pots do reach a temperature limit where loss = input power. They are poorly insulated. Primarily it was to show the basic method to control input voltage, another video will follow. I had done a water heater where panels drove a boost converter to high voltage and then that was pulsed according to panel voltage. That was disappointing because high boost converter loss ate up half the gain of going to power point control. Moving soon, if I get the time will do an efficient AC transformer based design.

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 4 місяці тому

    Found a pot which was 600W at 120V which has a resistance of 21 ohms. This small pot is a steamer, the reason for the high wattage. Most are way more than double this resistance and less than half the wattage. This makes it possible to use a boost converter with a 12V panel. I had a 300W boost converter which was pretty typical with an idle current of 20ma, 100V capacitors and was set up with a maximum voltage of 33V. I increased that to 40.5V maximum, the most I thought the semiconductors could take. The solar panel is a RENOGY 100W with 22,5V open circuit. Max I observed was 20.5V, these panels are old and went thru a lightning event. Vmp is 18.9V and Imp 5.29A. Power point control is a voltage divider, 40K into a 10K pot. FET gate voltage is used as a reference. Drain feeds current into switcher reference pin (2.54V) thru diode to fake converter into thinking voltage is too high and shutting down. TEST RESULTS 18C start at 10am 16.2V power point 52W19oz of water panel facing east 33C 11 minutes 10WH 57W 16.6V in 32V out 55C 30 minutes 27.6WH 66C 45 minutes 40.7WH hot enough to kill bacteria 76C 60 minutes 54.8WH 62W keep warm thermal trips (not used) 86C 120 minutes 113WH 87C 154 minutes 146WH this is the terminal temperature where input = loss This does work. If buck converter totally shuts off it does a pass thru to heating element. 10K resistor not low enough to shut down converter so boost converter went into a death spiral down to 9.6V. They shut down at that voltage to protect the FET. Power point for panel was 16.7V and converter had about 15% loss and ran quite hot. This is still more effective than direct connect methods others have used and this uses a standard pot. Most of the choices with 100W panels are not very good.

  • @nogmeerjan
    @nogmeerjan 4 місяці тому

    Every repair I ever did had more "Aha that must be it" moments than it should have had.

  • @cgmarch2359
    @cgmarch2359 4 місяці тому

    I think you just freed the ghost inside the POT :) To bad you did not made a wish ..

  • @JonOffgrid
    @JonOffgrid 4 місяці тому

    I fix one of my battery with a power supply

  • @JonOffgrid
    @JonOffgrid 4 місяці тому

    Can I come over and work on electronics with yea lol😅 just kidding had a friend here locally I used to go hang out with him we play around with the stuff solar too

  • @JonOffgrid
    @JonOffgrid 4 місяці тому

    👍

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 4 місяці тому

    This was so unusual I thought I would share it. My water heater controller became erratic and difficult to set This was a failure mode I had never seen before. In any repair you mind must remain open to the impossible. Some faults are almost freakish. Turning the pot made almost no change in voltage. I absolutely cleaned the table to see if anything would fall out when I removed the cover. Nothing could be seen in the pot or on the table. Yet the pot was perfect when assembled back. Will I use this pot again, YES.

  • @dogit1840
    @dogit1840 4 місяці тому

    Horrible name for your channel you either get Oprah Winfrey or Opera I guess Italian musicals. But it's nice to see somebody understand it's great to find the problem but you also need to find out what caused the problem. difference between mechanic and good mechanic electrician

    • @opera5714
      @opera5714 4 місяці тому

      I thought the name would keep YT riff raff away. It comes from Nantucket, the historic Seamans Opera House. Probably just a brothel. Started as Opera House Boat Works, I do own a full size pipe organ. Then it was Operahouse and now just opera. My first job was repairing transistorized organs in 64 when I was 14. They had no choice, I was the only one who understood transistors. My brother had to drive me on service calls. 60 years of repair and electronics design and the problem is usually bad design.

  • @shawnd567
    @shawnd567 4 місяці тому

    Yeah I believe the p102 had this issue really bad and it was basically sold with every tool. So Ryobi got a really bad unreliable name a few years back.

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 4 місяці тому

    I have an older Ryobi battery pack that went into deep discharge and now will not charge on a standard charger. With many battery packs, applying voltage to the output terminals will wake them up. This is not possible with Ryobi. The pack must be taken apart to do this. Voltage must be applied to the upper and lower cell. With an older pack this could happen often. To save me the trouble next time, I drilled a hole in the O of the Ryobi at the negative end of the pack. This cell end is exposed and a NEGATIVE test lead probe can be inserted to wake it up. POSITIVE can go to the positive of the packs output. It doesn't take long to put enough charge on the pack for the standard charger to function again. This trick will probably work for other packs also.

  • @opera5714
    @opera5714 5 місяців тому

    Unlike my other voltage relays, this one has an input resistance of 21K ohms. That gave the low voltage reading of 6V maximum. I changed the timing resistor to 10K and now the voltage will now rise to 9.4V. I changed the turn on voltage to 7.5V to make the timing about the same. With the resistance of the voltage monitor so low, the 2K load resistor has been eliminated.