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This is amazing! Thank you so much for sharing this!!! I will pin this comment to the top! Great work, my friend.

Thank you! I am so glad you found my video helpful! It kind of depends how we choose. Whenever we first get a new expansion, we try some of the suggested mixes in the back of the rulebook. That just helps familiarize us with the new expansions. But most often, we use the free Dominion randomizer app. Just search in your app store; I think there are a couple different ones to choose from. Anyway, with the app, you can simply select which sets you want to use, and it will randomly choose the setup for you. OR... sometimes we will choose which sets we want, and then just choose a certain number of cards from each box. We just shuffle the blue-backed randomizer cards and select them randomly. Hope that helps! By the way, I have received the latest expansion Rising Sun, but I have not tried it yet. I hope to update my video once I get a few plays in! Cheers!

@@undiscovered_games awesome thanks for the response, can't wait to see what rising sun is like. I have no idea how he is able to release so many good expansions, he has to be running out of ideas 😂

Thank you for the kind words! I will definitely take a look at Orpa Mine! 😊

Thanks for the comment! The tavern makes it so that your elite artisans cannot be moved after activating them. It basically makes you wait an extra turn to use those & helps you stay organized with the order of operations. At 18:40, there's an example. Yellow had to put their elite artisan back to the tavern after using it. _Then_ they got to place/move a worker. If that worker would've been in their personal supply, then they would've been allowed to place it by playing cards. However, since that worker was in the tavern, they could _only_ move/place the 1 worker that was left on the board. Once you retrieve your workers from the tavern, they are now available for use, but you might not place a worker that round. You might end up waiting till the next round due to cards you have, or due to the other players' positions. Hope that helps!

​@@undiscovered_gamesgot it! 👍🏻 I love your channel. Keep up the great work. 🙂

@@warever37 thank you!! I appreciate it 😊

Thanks for the comment! You are the 3rd person to recommend Barony to me, so I really need to prioritize that one apparently 😅 I do not own it, and I've never played it! I'll be sure to bump it up on my research list. I usually focus on undiscovered games on this channel, but I am releasing my Top 50 favorite games for Episode 50 in the next couple weeks. You might enjoy that, so stick around! Thanks for watching!

@@undiscovered_games Awesome! I'm glad I mention Barony to you and look forward to the next video.

You struck gold, my friend! That is awesome! This is a hard one to find 👏👏 Welcome to the channel! :)

@@undiscovered_games I've been very lucky to thrifting, although I live in a big city and I actively seek them out on my days off. Have you played The downfall of Pompeii? Or Colosseum? These are two I recently found as well!

That's awesome and thank you for the kind words! That was my entire motivation for starting this channel, so you are in the right place! I am exactly like you, and I've found there are lots of us out there 💪 Over the years, I have learned that I'm often disappointed when I play the overhyped/overproduced/trendy games. Simultaneously, I am usually blown away by the gems that are buried and forgotten. The idea that such awesome games could be totally lost forever is what motivates me to give them the video content they originally deserved!! That being said, I've probably tried about 10 games to every 1 that's worth featuring, so it's a labor of love 😅 Welcome to the channel! I think you'll learn about lots of amazing games here, and you've probably played many of them too.

Thanks for the comment! That's one way to look at it, I guess. First, I absolutely agree about the dumbing down of games in general. That's the whole point of my channel focusing on older games, _because_ I cringe at the new wave of lifeless soulless games being pumped out in rapid succession nowadays, games with zero player interaction, games that hold your hand the entire time, etc. See Yellow & Yangtze vs. Tigris & Euphrates. Same game, but Y&Y has nowhere near the depth of T&E. They sucked the life out of it & made it appeal to a mass audience. Same with the 2nd edition of A Study in Emerald. I could go on and on in agreement with you on that topic, so I encourage you to watch my other videos because Dominion is not the typical topic of discussion here! Caverna is another great example (although I do not like Agricola or Caverna, personally haha). But to me, Prosperity does not fit that description of dumbing down. Prosperity gives you more of a player-driven pace & more reacting to what your opponents are doing, which I always love in a game. With Prosperity, if I have $9 to spend, do I buy a Province or a Platinum and save for a bigger payout later? Or if players are loading up on Platinums, maybe I can rush the end by sticking to Provinces & combos while they're wasting turns loading up their deck. That's a very oversimplified example, but that's my general feeling about it. Not to mention, I _love_ the cards that let you trash a card worth X and get something worth X+2 or whatever. Trashing a Platinum to get a Colony is super satisfying and a very valid strategy. So to me, just because Prosperity feels more "satisfying" doesn't mean it's dumbed down. It's the same way I view most of Stefan Feld's "point salad" games. I believe you can have a game that simultaneously feels good to play, but at the same time still requires skill & proper strategy to win. Finally, my last defense of Prosperity is I find it adds more length to a 2p game. We play most of our Dominion at 2p, so I enjoy that the game usually lasts a bit longer and lets you build your deck longer at 2p. That's why we always play with Platinums and Colonies. I can certainly see your argument, but I respectfully disagree in this case. I'm Team Prosperity all day every day! I appreciate your comment! In fact, based on your comment, I think you'll agree with most of my taste in games, so I encourage you to check out my other videos! Thanks for adding to the discussion!

@@undiscovered_games Well, I disagree on Agricola, it's amazing. But yeah I can see how our inclinations might align. I get what you're saying about prosperity. I guess I enjoy not having as many options. I like to suffer. BTW I love it when people call Stephan Feld games "point salad." It's a brilliant diversion Feld uses in his games and it has fooled so many people since Vasel coined that term. They're kind of missing the whole point. When you get points for EVERYTHING, it's the same as getting points for nothing, except (like you said) it feels much better. But in any game, it doesn't matter if you end with 10 points or 1000. What matters is that you end up with at least 1 more point than everyone else. And if you look at Feld games closely, you'll notice that the actions required to build an engine and win the game in the long run actually give you far fewer points than other actions that seem juicier at the time.

@@ioannispaxinos5171 yes, I completely agree on the point salad thing. Point salad is not a bad thing if the game design is refined (which Feld’s games are). I don’t always like point salad, either. For example, one of my all time fav games is Shakespeare because every single point is such a struggle, and it often comes down to 1 point at the end. Or if you like to suffer, Feld’s In The Year of the Dragon is one of my favs too. Definitely not point salad and definitely punishing as can be! So I can see why you like Agricola. I don’t deny it’s an amazing design, but I don’t enjoy it in my current game group or my current stage of life. My biggest gripe is it’s way too long and I feel like I am at work when I play it. It was in my collection for 6 years. I only played about 5-6 times, but ultimately I decided that if a game is going to last 3-4 hours, it needs to be fun for me and my group (see Caylus). Caylus gives me a similar worker placement brain crunch with zero text on the cards & a smoother pace. With Agricola, I got really tired of reading all the cards & explaining them to everyone at the table constantly. So ultimately it’s more of a “me” thing than the game itself. These days, I am more into simpler games with tough choices. I love lots of stuff from Knizia/Dorra/Schacht/Kramer/Colovini/Dorn/etc. Uwe is a fantastic designer, but as the designated game night referee & rules lawyer & teacher… his games are exhausting 😰. Thanks for the reply, and hopefully you didn’t take offense to any of my comments! You clearly have lots of knowledge and good taste in gaming, and that’s who I love to chat with! Cheers!

@undiscovered_games Oh I was joking. Of course I took no offense of your dislike of Agricola just because it's one of my favs. To each their own. We must have fun otherwise what's the point? Even the dumbing down of games is a consequence of the hobby expanding so games have to reflect more average skills. Take dominion's point tokens for example. The whole notion of the game, it's core conflict is that buying points makes your deck worse. So if you're not careful you ruin your engine. Enter point tokens. They Don't go in your deck. Just buy as many as you like and keep the engine rolling smoothly. A classic dumb down mechanic. Just like saving coins for later. Fail to make a smooth income engine? No worries, instead of wasting your turn you just save some money for later.

@@ioannispaxinos5171 Thanks, I just wanted to make sure 😅 Yeah, I know what you mean about point tokens; it defeats the whole purpose of building a good deck. The same could be said about the coin tokens too, I guess. That's why I love Dominion, though; it has so many different things to explore, and what's nice is if you don't like a certain part, you can just omit it and still enjoy the game. What's weird is I look at Dominion completely differently from the rest of the games I usually review and enjoy. Dominion is like a "comfort game" for my wife and me since it was our gateway game into the hobby and we still play it so much 12 years later. So I guess I don't analyze Dominion as deeply as I typically analyze games... like there's no way it can be perfect because there are so many different combinations of cards. Some games are bangers; others are flops. It just depends on that random setup. But analyzing that setup and crafting a new plan each time is what keeps me coming back for more. So I guess to oversimplify my "Dominion Opinion," it is really as simple as this: I enjoy the parts of Dominion that feel good (lots of money, point tokens, coin tokens, etc.). I don't enjoy the things that don't make me feel good (potions, debt, things that muck up the flow). Not my typical criteria for a game review 😂😂 But from a design perspective, I totally see your point. Anyway, I'll stop rambling. Thanks again for the great discussion!

Haha, I guess I was making this video for a more generalized crowd that's looking for alternatives to Candy Land. When you are a gamer, you tend to start your kids early in heavier games than most kids would enjoy. For example, my daughter was playing Kingdom Builder at age 3, and her favorite game currently is Blue Lagoon. I would consider those to be more for ages 8+, but I _love_ both of those as an adult. They are actually both in my top 50, so maybe take a look at Kingdom Builder or Blue Lagoon for your precocious preschooler! Another racing game my daughter likes is Downforce by Wolfgang Kramer, which is a little lighter than Heat but still has more depth than Monza. But who am I kidding... I still _love_ Monza!! It has no strategy, but it's fun! Camel Up and Ready Set Bet are also great for kids!

@@undiscovered_games Yeah, I had a bad introductory game of Downforce at a convention where I was blocked almost every turn so I've never had the desire that most people seem to have to play this game. Kingdom Builder at 3. That's impressive. My grandson enjoyed Azul so much (at 4) that I gave him my used copy that I received for free. Then I read an article about it giving me an appreciation for the "interactive" part of the game. You know, the mean part. I guess it's too late to take it back, I'll have to get my own copy. There's another $300 because I'll end up wanting all the editions and expansions.

@@grantfraser5430 haha Downforce can be brutal, especially with more than 4p. I guess I like that game because you still have a chance to win if you bet properly. But yeah, it’s definitely punishing at times. I haven’t got to try Heat yet, but I definitely want to soon! I say Kingdom Builder at age 3… meaning she at least grasped how to play & got some BASIC strategies, but it’s not like she was actually proficient 😂 But she at least understood drawing the card and placing 3 houses on the matching terrain. But now at age 7, she holds her own at Kingdom Builder! Azul at age 4 is awesome! I’ve found that a big barrier with kids & games is attention span more than grasping the concepts… so even though they can understand bigger games, they often gravitate to the simpler ones because they can’t last more than 15-20 minutes at 1 game. Honestly, I’m kinda that way as an adult too. I understand how to play games like Agricola or Lisboa, but I choose not to 😂 There are just so many awesome simpler games to explore!

San Marco is great! I love the "I Cut You Choose" mechanism. I have not checked, but San Marco could very well be the game that invented that mechanism. It does have a very similar game board, but otherwise yes, it's a totally different game. There's a Reiner Knizia game called King's Road that is probably most similar to Doge. But it's still quite different. Doge really stands alone in my collection. It's always a hit when we show new players too.

That's awesome you know and love Firenze too! Steding is great. He's probably one of the top 5 most underrated game designers in my opinion. I have played many of his games, and Firenze is one of my favorites. Obviously Hansa Teutonica is amazing, and that game is my favorite game ever, so it's hard to beat that one (I know exactly the SUSD skit you're referring to haha). But I do like a lot of his games. One I did _not_ care for is Norenberc. In my opinion, that one is not worth your time. It looks really cool, but the gameplay felt very shallow and uninteresting to me. Maybe I missed something, but it just didn't grab me like his other games. Plus the Norenberc scoring is completely random and makes no sense haha. Thanks again for all the comments!

Happy to help!! Glad you found my video helpful. Tonga Bonga is one of those games that just keeps me wanting to play over and over. That's the sign of a good game, even though it's super light and much simpler than most games I play. Playte is so awesome!

I hear ya... I certainly don't need any more party games. I wish I could get everyone to join in a big 6p game of Power Grid or a 5p game of Hansa Teutonica, but sadly most people at our gatherings have no interest in it. I'm fortunate that my close relatives actually enjoy the deeper games, and we play with them quite a bit. But when the holidays roll around, it's pretty much party games :( Most of these in the video were in my collection before I really got into the hobby, but I kept a few. Of course, Ready Set Bet and Camel Up came after I got into the hobby, but like you said those are less party games and more games for big groups. Thanks again for the comments!

@@undiscovered_games 6 player Power Grid? It might not be pleasant but I'm down to try that at least once.

Awesome! I bet you’ll like it! Yeah the gripes are very minor here. I mean, it’s not the deepest game ever, but for what it is, I really enjoy it! Glad you found the video helpful 😊

Haha that's good to know. I've always wanted to play Neuland and never had the chance to play. I'll keep that in mind if I ever play it!

That would be amazing if you could make that rondel have some more depth supporting it in the rest of the game. You're right, the rest is somewhat plain, but like you said, it's worth playing just for that mechanism. The game was super cheap so it was worth the price of admission. But I can't say it's a must own.

Thanks for posting this! I'll let others chime in who have experience with Dominion sleeves. Here are my 2 cents: Personally, I never sleeve my games because I cannot stand how it feels. But I certainly agree the starting cards can start to wear faster than the other cards. So I just bought a couple copies of that yellow "base cards" box, which will last me forever. That is my advice if you prefer _not_ to sleeve. Another thing to keep in mind is sleeves _might_ not allow the cards to fit in the slots. I am not certain... just a thought I had.

I go back and forth for my fav 2p area control game. Currently, I'm really liking Dynasties/Sun Tzu. But I also think Kahuna is fantastic. The cardplay is a lot of fun in both of those games. Caesar Seize Rome in 20 Minutes? That one is a very solid game, but the graphic design really bugged me in that one. I ultimately decided if I wanted something similar, I would just play Knizia's Samurai at 2p. But Caesar is a super elegant area control game for 2p. The system works really well & it's a very snappy game...often less than 20 minutes in my experience. Plus, Paolo Mori is a great designer!

This game is quite unique. I believe there was only 1 printing of this in German. There are a few copies floating around on eBay for pretty cheap. Obviously your card draws can be somewhat lucky at times, but the flexibility of being able to combine the cards helps with that. Also, the quick pace of the game makes the luck factor not a big deal for me. I kinda wish it was in a smaller box, because the game is quick and feels like a filler. I appreciate your kind words and wanting to help the channel. The paypal link only allows paypal and credit card payments. I also accept Super Thanks on UA-cam, but I'm not sure how that works. It's below each video, there's like a heart icon with a thanks... sometimes it's in a dropdown menu. Honestly, it is a big help just watching & commenting & getting some others to subscribe! I'm glad you're enjoying the content!

Hey, thanks for the question! Did you catch my recent 2-player episode? Episode 48 has a game called Shanghaien which is a really fun dice game for 2p. It’s different from this but it’s a great game. Most of my gaming is at 3-4 players, so we just don’t play a lot of games at 2p. But I do try to make 2p-game episodes periodically. The closest game to Tonga Bonga that I can think of would be Jamaica, as I mentioned at the end of the video. That game plays 2-6p, although it’s better with more than 2. But it might give you a similar feel to this one. Hope that helps!!

@@undiscovered_games I have checked out your all your two player videos and we have made a list and thank you so much for all your videos

@@danasimpson1275 Awesome! I was pretty sure you had commented before, but I wanted to make sure that was you. Thanks for watching! There will be more to come! I'm planning a Top 25 two-player games list sometime in the future, along with more 2p episodes like I've been doing.

Awesome! Playte is one of the few _new_ publishers I’m really excited about, which is why I’m choosing to focus on them. I just appreciate the way they’re doing things: economic & efficient packaging, no fancy Kickstarter campaigns, reprinting old games, all while staying original. Love to see it! Stay tuned for Episode 50 in a few weeks! There are gonna be lots of amazing games on there, if I can stop being indecisive 😅 I’ve been working on my list for 8 months 🙈 Thanks for watching!

Man, Playte is killing it! You guys would like this one, perfect family game night type of game. I haven’t been this excited about a new publisher in a long time. I love how they’re staying lean and mean, no fancy kickstarters, just simple reprints of old games with amazing packaging that takes up zero shelf space. They’re truly original in my opinion, which is why I’m so excited about them. I’ve experienced really fast shipping, too, coming all the way from Korea to the US. Pretty cool!!

That’s so awesome!! Yes, he is easily one of my favorite designers, and he is definitely the world’s most underrated designer in my opinion 😎 I have some more Dorra gems coming to future episodes! Thanks for the comment and for watching!!

Haha that’s interesting! I didn’t know Hidden Gems disagreed! Were they talking about the old version or this one? I wonder if there are any big differences between the old version & this one? I know they changed from a square grid to a hex grid. I actually went into this game with low expectations because of how light it is. I did not expect to like it this much. I mean, it’s suuuuper simple. But that money/dice system is fascinating. I’m currently addicted to Tonga Bonga 😅 Try to steal the most money without giving your opponents too much movement. Brilliant!

@@undiscovered_games If I remember correctly they talked about the old version. Also had gripes with “bashing the leader” and they felt that there was only one legitimate strategy. But isn’t that the beauty of our hobby … there are games for everyone. Keep up the good work! It’s always exciting to watch one of your videos.

@@SRyfish interesting! I’ll have to find their episode on that. 6 plays in and I have not found an obvious strategy yet, but now I’m curious! 👀 Thanks for the kind words! So happy you enjoy the channel! 😎

Thanks, man! Glad you enjoyed! 😎

Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words 😊 Playte is an awesome company. I don’t usually promote new games, but I just love what they’re doing!

Such a cool game, especially for how simple it is!! Really surprised me!!

Haha I know the feeling all too well 😩 If you do end up getting this, give it a couple plays. It seems _way_ too simple at first, but that bribery thing will become much more interesting as players get better at the game. I'm currently addicted to the game; it's simple & quick but it's so tricky to master.

Haha! I happen to love waffles! 😋 Cheers!

I agree! Knizia is the king! I am always happy when an old game gets reprinted. Personally, I am so sensitive to too many colors and oversaturated boards/pieces, so I just prefer the simpler look of the beige games. But you're correct, that 25th Century edition is definitely beautiful! Thanks for the comment!

That's amazing! Definitely meant to be! I am always up for a game of Atlanteon. It's one of those I will never get rid of. Regarding The Cousins' War: That is probably the most unique game on this list. Interesting for sure! It's one of the most unique 2p games I've played really. Sadly it's hard to find right now. Maybe it'll get a reprint one day!

Thanks for the comment! As you said, every box has some great cards and some cards I don't like. Hence, I can't allow myself to get rid of _any_ of them haha. I personally really like the brutal attacks you mentioned 🤭 but I can totally understand those aren't for everyone. Since making this video over a year ago, I think I would move Menagerie up in my ranking. Those Way cards are really awesome, and we have been revisiting Menagerie quite often in our recent plays. I might have to make a new version of this video soon because Rio Grande just released their latest expansion Rising Sun (which also has debt tokens, not sure about that... but it does have some other new concepts that sound interesting). We will soon see! Thanks again for the great comment!

That's such an interesting comparison that I had never thought of... I can totally see what you mean!! 🤯 Thanks for the awesome comment!

That's awesome!! Very interesting info about Hansa Teutonica. I think the theme probably seems absent to me because I have not studied the backstory whatsoever haha. Perhaps I should take a deeper look into it! I also enjoy Michael Schacht's game Hansa as well, so maybe it's time to do some learnin! I bet it would improve the gameplay on both of those games if I knew more of the backstory. Merlin is always the game that surprises most people, but I always stand behind my love for it. To me, it's a _slightly_ better version of Bora Bora because it is less lengthy & less complex. I don't mind the complexity of Bora Bora, but a punishing dice roll in Merlin doesn't seem as painful as it can in Bora Bora. But similar to Bora Bora, you need to spend some turns investing in stuff in anticipation of those bad dice rolls. I love when a game allows you to weigh playing risky to maybe get a leg up on your opponents vs. playing safe and planning for bad dice rolls. Plus, the 2 different area control sections of Merlin get really tense at 4p. Anyway, if you enjoy dice games like we do, I think you'd definitely enjoy it. El Grande has a high nostalgia factor for me. I think I found it back in 2015, which was still fairly early in my journey in this hobby. And we play it so much still, it's hard to take it out of my Top Ten. It's so smooth and snappy nowadays for us. I love that it doesn't take forever to play. Still, I will say El Grande is teetering on my Top 10 because Kreta/Sardegna might very well replace it as my favorite area control game. I still feel a close connection to El Grande, but I _really_ love Kreta. Thanks again for watching & commenting! It's always awesome to find other gamers with great taste in gaming!

I do have Das Letzte Paradies and would love to make a video episode on that one someday soon. I've only played it once and I really liked it, but I definitely want to get a better feel for it before I make video on it. I'll consider bumping it up on my list of episodes to make!!!

Thanks man! Always appreciate you watching and commenting! Both Dynasties and Cousins War definitely appeal to the same style of gaming, so you really can't go wrong with either one. Cousins War is a bit harder to find, unfortunately.

I had no problem ordering it from the publisher‘s website directly (Cousins‘ war).

@@ABlackfyre1 good to know!! Thanks for sharing!!

Thank you so much! You're awesome! I really appreciate that. I genuinely hope you enjoy the new games you discovered from this episode. Shanghaien is so awesome. I know you'll love it. Just read the rules carefully. Based on previous comments, there seem to be multiple editions with slightly conflicting rulebooks 😬 Cheers!!

Haha Noble Knight is amazing. Apparently my Horus video made that game trend on their site 😂 Let me know how you like the game! :)

That's awesome! Welcome to the channel! I have bought many games in German and other languages, so I completely understand what it's like to look to UA-cam and find tutorial videos. In fact, that was one of my motivations for starting this channel 😅 I hope you find some great undiscovered games here!

I really like that idea for scaling the game. Very simple and makes sense to me! I guess I never even thought of finishing out the final round so each player gets equal turns. However, there is sometimes a strategy to be had by ending the game early by emptying out a stack to rush the game end... so maybe that's why the designer chose not to give everyone equal turns?? It would be interesting to try equal turns, though, for sure. Great observation!

Right? I believe this game holds my personal record for biggest discrepancy between BGG rating and my rating. I love it.

Hey thanks for watching! I haven’t played Boop but I’ve heard a lot of good stuff about it. Did you catch my video on Stone Henge? It’s Knizia’s version of tic tac toe. Without knowing anything about Boop, I’m curious if that compares to Boop at all? Babel is so cool! Love that one. Haven’t played since I made that video over a year ago 😩 Regarding multiplayer games that play well at 2p, we honestly don’t play a lot of those. Most of our gaming is 4p, and if it’s just my wife and me, we usually stick to 2p-exclusive games. So I don’t know if I have enough to make a list. That being said, we do enjoy Panamax at 2p, which is a heavy economic euro. I also did videos on Milestones and Horus, both of which we enjoy at 2p as well. But I’ll definitely keep that in mind, as I think it would make a great video topic!! Thanks again for watching and welcome to the channel! 🍻

​@@undiscovered_games I will probably watch all your videos over time, slowly. I just checked out Stonehenge but it doesn't make me think of tic tac toe. Interesting game though and I will gather some spare parts or pen and paper it for a try. I have a smart grandchild to use as a guinea pig for play testing. Comparison to Boop. Stonehenge is short and deterministic while Boop can be played defensively to prolong the game. It may still be deterministic but it's harder to see. Both are 100% open information. I wonder if Stonehenge suffers from first player advantage since that player is also first to play their last piece with it being known what the opponent's last play will be. This allows them to possibly claim up to 5 or 6 green circles at once. Wait, no that's not relevant since there are only 15 green circles so the race factor is nullified. I think the biggest difference is claiming of lines in Stonehenge whereas in Boop, it's not over until a person can set up two potential wins that can't both be blocked. Boop is literally a three in a row game on a 6x6 board but several pieces move around each turn so getting three in a row can be tricky. You can even set up two potential lines and have them both blocked in one turn. And to top it off, although you always have 8 pieces you don't start the game with the pieces you need to win with. You have to earn those by getting 1-3 non winning three in a rows first. Or get all your pieces on the board, which is also easier said than done as your opponent ( and sometimes yourself ) are regularly knocking pieces off the board to start over again. Halloween edition recommended since it has the expansion piece but not necessary. In fact, but you didn't hear it from me, Boop can be constructed at home also. The rules say to use the bottom of the box as your board but I never enjoyed that. My conclusion is that there isn't really a comparison, they are two different games entirely. Neither is better, they are both good filler games. Stonehenge is shorter and simpler, probably easily programmable for perfect computer play. I'm curious what that is but that would take some fun out of the game. I think Boop is deeper but I can see it easily frustrating some people also making it harder to get to the table.

@@grantfraser5430 wow, thanks for that detailed reply! Very informative! I will definitely look into Boop (I’ve been known to make homemade versions of games, so I might try that first 😉). Several people have recommended that game to me and I think it’s time to look deeper into it! Thanks again! 🍻

That's awesome to hear! You were lucky to find a copy! Yeah, I really like this game and I've also had great luck showing it to new players. Spoiler alert: it's going to be in my Top 50 coming soon on Episode 50! :) Thanks for the comment!

Thanks for watching as always! Hope you get to try some of these sometime!! 😎

Thanks for watching! If you play at 2p more often, I’d definitely say Atlanteon is the better option. They’re still very different games strategically, but I personally like Kingdoms with 3p best. Still works great at 2. Also, I definitely thought The Cousins War was the one game here that you would gravitate toward. It definitely seems like your style. My wife and I really enjoy that one. The problem is it’s kinda hard to find nowadays 😢 Keep your eyes open!

Thanks for watching as always!!! I have and enjoy Knizia's Carcassonne The Castle! I like it better than Carcassonne, personally. Not the game I was going to feature, though ;) I have not played Trambahn! Thanks for the recommendation! I will check it out for sure! You have great taste in games so I trust your judgement :)

That's really weird I just happened to put Shanghaien in there. I wasn't aware you all were discussing it! It was meant to be I guess ha!! Regarding the rule, my rulebook clearly says this: "If both players added the same number of dice to a card, then the player _with the higher sum on the dice added to the two neighboring cards_ receives the card. If there is still a tie, then the card is removed from the game." I don't see anything about a first or second tiebreaker. Maybe I have a different version of the game or something? Might be worth checking into. Regardless, thanks for the comment and for watching as always! I appreciate the support, and that's really cool you know Sun Tzu. Great game! I think you'd love The Cousins War. The bluffing with the dice rolling is so much fun.

That's really interesting that my rules are different. Another funny thing is that mine don't mention the wooden figures at all. Thanks to your vid, I finally know what they're for!

@@Centerhead haha yeah those wooden figures are pretty pointless LOL. I think it’s fascinating there are so many discrepancies in the rules! Does your rulebook clearly say when/who chooses the cards in the row being 1-6 or 6-1? We had a long discussion in one of the other comments on that! 3 different interpretations: Either the start player rolls 1st then chooses, or the start player chooses before rolling, or each player chooses their own numbers for the cards after rolling. I find all the interpretations to be valid & interesting in their own way. 🤷🏻‍♂️