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I would love to see that brake set up when you finish! that sounds so cool.

That makes so much sense. Ya, I like them but I'm gonna go back to a smaller width next time to solve the clearance issues.

Interesting man, I ride and loved my 1.75s they made best tire ever and wanted to change to the 1.9s but damn that seems fat and wider than I’d love cuz I turbine and spin a lot and don’t want it to hinder my style and riding much Still considering them but wonder if that’s how they are in general and hope they would fit my jungle rider frame I am going to as well.

I rode Ares 1.75 for 10 years. The switch to the fatter heresys made everything instantly more stable. I don't feel like it slowed my spins down. I'm going to try the eclat mugen 1.95 next. I expect it to be narrower than the heresy 1.9s. I think it was Jay Forde who put a caliper on the mugens and they were exactly the advertised width.

@@ostmosis the measurement you get depends on the width of the rim so it’s always a shot in the dark to that degree. I actually would consider this fork now knowing the clearance is tight because I hate that gap above the tire below the crown

@@Davedebuono huh. I never considered the rims, but it seems obvious now that you mention it 🤔

It was awesome to meet you, too! Thanks for taking initiative to come up to me. Whenever you are in San Diego, hit me up and lets ride and maybe make a video together. So glad you got to make it out to the One Love Jam!

​@flatlandjourney - It was a great weekend. I'm definitely gonna plan a trip to S.D. so we can ride & make some Rad content. I'll be in touch. I've got my first contest in Vegas in April, so I'm trying to get all my beginner tricks dialed in. Lol! Talk soon. Keep posting these videos, they don't go unseen. Lol!

@@l.a.maclin6591 That's gonna be a blast getting to do a contest! Wish I could be there. And thanks for the encouragement man.

Hey whats up Danny! It was great meeting you there. Ya, the other guy is my buddy Clarence. I've got his phone number. Shoot me an email and I will give you his contact info. Kevin.Thorsell1@gmail.com

Ya, that is the way to go in my opinion. You will need to get an adapter for the front fork in order to run a front brake. I would email flatlandfuel and the owner, Patrick, will help you get set up with all the right parts.

Ya, the trend right now is to go brakeless. But even the brakeless riders will tell you it is way easier to learn tricks with brakes. One great resource in learning the specifics of how how and when to use the brakes during tricks is an old video called "Ground Rules" by Matt Wilhelm. You can find it for free on Vimeo. I highly recommend it. The video is over an hour long and goes through tricks from beginner level to pro level.

Thanks so much!

Awesome! Make sure to come say hi! Looking forward to seeing you there!

Hi there! first off, thanks for watching. One of my goals is to help people get the right bike for them. I have a few videos on my channel that may be helpful regarding making decisions about the right bike for your needs. Currently, there are a few flatland bikes on the market that I can recommend, from various price points. The nicest one currently is the We The People Sinus. However you mentioned you are on.a budget. One that is great quality but at a middle price point is called the Haro La Bastille. In the U.S. it is currently on sale at FlatlandFuel.com. I'm not sure if the shipping would be worth the discounted price. You should be able to to get this bike in Europe as well. One thing to note is that it is intended to be a "brakeless" bike, so it does not come with a front brake or gyro setup for the rear brake. So, it you don't want to go brakeless, you will need to purchase brake parts seperately, and that may be a deal breaker for you. This bike, even at its full price, is probably the best deal. Some other options that are lower quality are the Colony Apprentice. The nice thing about this is it comes fully set up with front and rear brakes. The downside is it is lower quality than the La Bastille, and on top of that it is more expensive. But it is a tried and true entry level flatland bike. Another bike that could be a good fit is called the Far East Cycles complete bike. It is a little on the small side, so at 5'10," it would feel a bit small. The benefit of this bike is it is super light compared to most of the other bikes. An alternate approach is to get a standard BMX bike and modify it slightly for flatland. This can be most easily done if you are planning to ride brakeless, since that is how most bmx bikes come. I hope that gets you going in the right direction. Feel free to reach out with more questions as they arise.

@ thanks for your answer my friend. Regards from Portugal 🇵🇹 Im more inclined for that old school felling gyro and brakes. What do you recommend size wise top tube length? 20 or 19,5?

@cf9978 Either size would work. But if you are thinking about doing exclusively flatland, then the 19.5 will probably be best.

Thanks for watching! I'm glad it was helpful. Would love to hear about how it is coming along as you practice:)

Great move. The downtown DLX comes almost completely ready for flatland riding. The freecoaster makes it fully ready for flatland.

Thanks so much. This was a fun project. I hope to do more like it in the future.

Thanks so much. I appreciate you taking the time to watch:) Would love to hear about your progression with tricks!

@ once I get my bike, I will definitely let you know!

The Dagger is an amazing frame! Nice choice. Ya, the trend right now is to go brakeless. But even the brakeless riders will tell you it is way easier to learn tricks with brakes. I ride front brakes. I'd love to see your bike once you have it finished. Tag me in a video.

I had one of those DK flatland bikes. It was called the Opsis. It was an incredible value and had everything that was needed.

Ya this is a tough one. I think getting the Hang 5 and steamroller are good foundations for this trick.

Thanks for watching!

Can you upload a video of it. Maybe I can figure out what's going on with it.

Thats really helpful. Ya I totally notice I start carving to the right automatically on the Karl cruiser. I appreciate the tips.

Ya, I've got a couple of potential changes I might make. I want to try a little bit longer frame. But overall I've liked this set up. What are you riding?

Cassettes can be great depending on what you want to use it for. For flatland BMX, there are a lot of tricks where it is helpful to have a freecoaster hub, which allows the back wheel to roll backwards, without making the cranks turn.

Ya that makes sense. I think I've just adapted my riding for the shorter frame. Do you ride flatland as well?

@@flatlandjourney I was into flatland in the 80's. Took a 35 year break and bought the Kink a few months ago. Basically back to square one. I can barely pull a tailwhip so the stuff your doing seems impossible. Keep it up, man. Love the channel.

@ you will start to get it back little by little. I’m always impressed by the guys who rode back in the 80s and took a break and are now getting back into it. They tend to pick things up more easily because that muscle memory is still tucked away somewhere.

Ya shoutout to @Midschoolfool with Bendy Tubes. His videos are really interesting.

So stoked to hear you are getting back into it! Would love to see videos of your progress over time!

Omg the fat fingers!! 20.5!!!!!!

Ya your magi is about the same size as the frame I was riding previously. I did like it alot. Keep on riding!

haha, I used to get that back in the day. But it's been a while.

That’s a great deal. I think they are great bikes too.

Ya, I've seen some guys do that. It seems less stable, but I might give it a try. Thanks.

Ya man, a smaller bike does make a big difference. But people can get used to riding almost anything. Flatland is really hard.

Ya man Big Bear is beautiful. It's only a few hours away from where I live in San Diego. Wow, you moved to Germany? Thats a big move. How come you moved?

@@flatlandjourney Too many bodies. :)

@@uptowndann109 ya that’s really awesome deal.

Thanks for checking out this video and offering your perspective. Those classic freestyle bikes from back in the day were really cool, so I totally get where you are coming from. In this video, I was focusing more on some current affordable options that could work to help people get into the sport or back into the sport at a reasonable price. Are you interested in getting a bike with a split top tube? I'd love to hear more of what you are into.

Dude I rode in the 80s and I ride now. Sure the 80s bikes had more style but modern bikes are way better to ride. We realized platforms and extra tubes are just dead weight.

I have a custom 2021 GT Pro Performer. Love the 80's look, but only Haro and GT have made heritage bikes. Modern flatland is performed on any BMX.

Thanks for the encouragement, I appreciate it! Would love to see what you are working on!

Ya, that makes sense with the La Bastille. If I were to get it, I would probably just use it as a completely brakeless bike, and put some grip tape on the pegs, then call it a day haha. Once brakes come into play, it opens up a whole chain reaction of upgrades that need to be done haha. I've experienced that first hand as well.

Thanks man! Ya, I do love the finish I can get with paint. Plus, I don't have the gear to powder coat and would lose the joy of doing it myself if I had to take it to a shop. I would love a Haro Freestyler! The reissue looks great, but not affordable.

That's right. I think Dia Comp makes the bulldog and Odyssey makes the 1999, I've never personally used either of them, but I think both should work with a fork that lacks 990 mounts. There is also a Dia Comp 990 adapter that can be added to a fork that has no mounts.

We will keep trying to grow the sport here. I would love to ride in Japan sometime.

Thanks man, I appreciate the encouragement! I like seeing your videos!

@ anytime man. Also thank you too! Means a lot to me. 💪🏼💪🏼🙌🏼

Thanks man. I have been playng around with a few different techniques. Rolling the tire and grabbing the seat is one of those and it seems to be a little more controlled.

I'm glad it's helpful. I was in the same place as you, couldn't find many videos that broke down the learning process of the tricks enough, so I started making them.