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FLOUR POWER!!! Get Better Scans From The Seal 3D Scanner
In this video I go through tips made by the Seal 3D scanner community and tips made by 3DMakerPro themselves. But do they work? Find out here!
Chapters:
Test 1 - Bright Lighting - 1:08
Test 2 - No Lighting - 4:08
Test 3 - Flour Coating - 6:07
Test 4 - Flour Coating (No Lighting) - 7:11
Final Test - 7:57
Specific Size - 9:29
Closing Remarks - 9:42
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Відео

How To Get More Detail From Your Seal 3D Scanner
Переглядів 4,3 тис.7 місяців тому
Are your processed meshes looking low-rez? Here is how to fix it in 3DMakerPro's software JMStudio! Chapters: JMStudio Fix - 0:32 Scan Detail Results - 1:57 Matte Model Scan - 5:37 MileHighMaker
What CAN It Scan?! 3DMakerPro's Seal 3D Scanner
Переглядів 2,6 тис.7 місяців тому
Let's put the acclaimed 0.05mm detail to the test. In this video we scan a 3D printed model by TableFlip Foundry - "The Cones of Calibration". On this model there are measured details that are significantly bigger then the acclaimed detail the Seal can capture, but can it?! UPDATE: CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO TO SEE HOW TO GET MORE DETAILED MODELS FROM YOUR SCANS ua-cam.com/video/Vzw2ZaQL9Rw/v-deo.htm...
3DMakerPro Seal 3D Scanner First Look - Is It Really Worth The Price?!
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Before you buy a Seal by 3DMakerPro, check out this unboxing and first look along with some real world tests. UPDATE: CHECK OUT THESE VIDEO TO SEE HOW TO GET MORE DETAILED MODELS FROM YOUR SCANS ua-cam.com/video/Vzw2ZaQL9Rw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/GNB_EdYusQQ/v-deo.html Chapters: Unboxing - 0:24 Setup - 5:28 First Scans - 14:45 First Model - 21:01 More Scans and Results - 26:40 A Good Resul...

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  • @666Azmodan666
    @666Azmodan666 25 днів тому

    my first scans look much better and I tested on my printed model, i.e. the devil's bust, and the scanner captured details on the corners that are quite small, about 0.5mm. Your sensitivity is definitely too high. You have simplification turned on, scanners do not perform correct retopology, so I didn't even use it, otherwise you can forget about sharp edges. The 3 factory settings of the model quality are quite low, the highest one has a mesh density of 0.32mm, so I set it to advanced and the density is 0.1 (the scanner has a max of 0.05) below that there is too much noise. I would do a review but it would be a waste of time unless they gave me a phone holder.

  • @94todd
    @94todd 28 днів тому

    Pretty sure the high sensitivity is your issue, that's gonna create a ton of extra noise

  • @anonymousanonymous3579
    @anonymousanonymous3579 Місяць тому

    ua-cam.com/video/fkXFE9MWATc/v-deo.htmlsi=7O2Zgz7xE78JyBpr

  • @03chrisv
    @03chrisv Місяць тому

    Im getting really good scans with my Seal Lite using the current iteration of their software. At first I was getting terrible scans and was tempted to return it, but I gave it some more time and really took the time to learn what works and what doesn't. I learned that using a tripod and the turn table is a must, it keeps the scanner from losing tracking and makes noise cleanup easier. I also learned that lighting is key, you want to be in a well lit room, preferably with an overhead lamp hovering over the turn table. Also keep sensitivity at lower values to reduce noise. Lastly take multiple scans from different angles and take your time cleaning up any noise using the various lasso tools, this is important as you'll want to help the program as much as possible during its "auto" noise reduction setting when processing. I've been able to get really good scans, even scans of videogame controllers (both halves) that are good enough to be 3D printed and used.

  • @nathanreitsma4437
    @nathanreitsma4437 2 місяці тому

    Use turntable mode

  • @TheFarukbozyurt
    @TheFarukbozyurt 3 місяці тому

    hello, thanks for the video. What is the resolution of the device? Has anyone used exocad in the dental industry?

  • @Jaxrud
    @Jaxrud 3 місяці тому

    0.1 mm accuracy feels like a lie

  • @DArkwIng2
    @DArkwIng2 3 місяці тому

    What PC specs are you using? I sense it is a little slow. It needs to be fast to capture the frames. Is this the Seal Lite or just Seal?

  • @DArkwIng2
    @DArkwIng2 3 місяці тому

    Why is your sensitivity cranked to 10? Will not that induce noise, and based on the size of the object vs what I can scan on my Einstar is sick details!

  • @dkmorphey
    @dkmorphey 4 місяці тому

    you just don't know how to use it

  • @navazdowling9515
    @navazdowling9515 4 місяці тому

    Change the config file to these settings. Scanned with the seal with these config setting for noise clean up . [Algo] BaseTol=5 TolDown=-100 TolRadius=350 TolUp=-5 [Camera] Brightness=2 LightP=100 [PoissonRecon] islandAreaRatio=0.00005 resolution=0.2 samples_per_node=5 trim_value=.1 adaptiveOctreeDepth=8 pointWeight=15 solverSubdivide=12 userConfig=1

  • @Alkhymia
    @Alkhymia 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for your review :) hope get a better product soon!

  • @bassmanilil7463
    @bassmanilil7463 5 місяців тому

    I have Lite version and my results are much better. You didn't clean the noise at all, what you expect?

  • @phillipmyers8498
    @phillipmyers8498 5 місяців тому

    You have the sensitivity set way too high. That is what is causing a lot of the static on your scans. Turn it all the way down to the lowest setting of 2. Keep the lighting low it doesn't need to be completely off. I actually use a Photo Box with the lighting on the lowest level. You are not going to get rid of all of the static but you can cut it way back. Also, use the JMS Edit mode to delete the turntable and as much of the static as possible before using the Processing mode. This will make a big difference in the Processed scans. I don't use the Processing mode within JMS instead, I use the free software CloudCompare to clean up my scans created in JMS.

  • @BigelowInventions
    @BigelowInventions 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing your experience with the Seal! I'm also struggling to scan mechanical parts. I probably need more practice, but it's just consuming so much of my time.

  • @bassmanilil7463
    @bassmanilil7463 5 місяців тому

    On my PC JMStudio working fast Ryzen 7 5800x 64 ram. You will have better results if turn off texture and the set detail to normal. There always will be noise, but depence of the light in the room and brightness you set can be manage to lower. Post-processing is something necessary - you have to clean the noise by hand to help the software to do his thing later. My result are good so far, but I'm making 10 scans for every of my projects.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 5 місяців тому

      I have a 3060 Ti in my machine with 64GB of ram and the program is quite slow, it definitely does not use anywhere near what is available lol. Turning off texture and setting detail to normal does not get me better results, but rather it just eliminates the need to process color data and the normal detail just smooths out the scanned details (and noise) resulting in smoothed out models I talked about in previous videos. Other tests show lighting had little to no effect on the model since the scanner emits it's own light. In hindsight I think most issues have been related to model size (I'm scanning quite small objects) even though I'm well within the advertised size. All the noise I'm getting is making cleanup literally impossible to do no matter how many pieces or angles I scan. 3DMakerPro has reached out to me and said to scan objects larger then 100mm which is 10x bigger then the advertised size minimum which sucks and is not what I purchased this for. I'm learning a lot and it seems like after all this is the biggest factor in quality is reflectiveness and size haha. WOW this turned into a rant. k bye and thanks for the comment.

    • @user-iy5dc4km8d
      @user-iy5dc4km8d 5 місяців тому

      I use 13700hx in JMstudio the calculation speed is slow,seal scan complete noise is high, I use revopoint mini no noise problem@@MileHighMaker

  • @vincentcimino1963
    @vincentcimino1963 6 місяців тому

    I’m very computer illiterate, is this something I should attempt on my own? I need this file sent to me from 3D MakerPro? Thanks for the video

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 5 місяців тому

      It does take a little bit of computer literacy but once you find the folder and file, the rest is quite easy.

  • @LUCIANAIBVA
    @LUCIANAIBVA 6 місяців тому

    ive watched all the unpaid user videosx as I preordered the Seal, multi axis turntable to save me the yoga moves doing 100s of captures etc,. and its utter nonsense, lighting, scale of object.. software is awful on Mac M1 16gig, and wont record to iPhone with iOS JM studio... awful heavy smartgrip is redundant. 3DMaker pro suggest I sell it on - how bad is that - passing on tech you are not happy with ... so I'm pushing for refund minus a China shipping label that ensures the kit is returned and no lost in the post... utter disappointment and 15 hours or more wasted. Polycam3D and iPhone so much more dynamic, if not for tiny war hammer figurines

  • @starguy9
    @starguy9 6 місяців тому

    I see that you are learning. I have the same scanner and it has worked really well. I tried creality ferrit first, and it just couldn't do small objects. I would tell you how to do all this correctly, but once you trouble shoot and learn for yourself everything else becomes easier. good luck.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 6 місяців тому

      Thanks my guy! Yes, I definitely have to figure it out for myself lol

    • @1313Stephan
      @1313Stephan 3 місяці тому

      @@MileHighMaker Any progress since this video? I have the Seal and multi-axis turntable, and I ran into the same issues you did scanning figs. Thanks for all the great work! Oh, and if you want to play with the multi-axis turntable, I'm in Denver and am willing to loan mine to you if it'll help make the damned thing work. ;)

  • @jorgem3625
    @jorgem3625 6 місяців тому

    haven't you try baby powder 66% with alcohol 33% with a spray bottle, and let it dry, or go to a pharmacy and buy TING foot spray, it works really well. I have a revopoint POP2 3d scanner and I can get better scans than this with this technique, I hope this works well for you.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 6 місяців тому

      Interesting, I'll have to try this out!

  • @RGS_23
    @RGS_23 6 місяців тому

    Hello, thank you, I had bought the scanner and saw your video... I ran to return it, I'm going to buy the Revopoint MINI, do you have information about it?

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 6 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching the video! I don't have any insider info on the Revopoint. But, if you get it, make a video so we can follow your experiences!

    • @RGS_23
      @RGS_23 6 місяців тому

      @@MileHighMaker ua-cam.com/video/QMKbl0itZoY/v-deo.html

  • @cgrosbeck
    @cgrosbeck 6 місяців тому

    all depth sensor based scanners are bad at small objects, and mediocre at medium (person) to large objects (cars trucks).

  • @scott185
    @scott185 6 місяців тому

    I found AESUB scanning spray made a huge difference. Also Daktarin foot spray powder works well if on a budget. Where did my link go :( . just want to show my results.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 6 місяців тому

      I'll have to look into getting some! Thank you!

  • @scott185
    @scott185 6 місяців тому

    What test model is that i want to give it a try.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 6 місяців тому

      It's the Cones of Calibration by Tableflip Foundry 😎👍

  • @juanpablogarau809
    @juanpablogarau809 7 місяців тому

    Hello, how do you ensure that duplicates of the object are not generated during the scan... as if it moved it from place to place. thank yo

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 6 місяців тому

      Keep your scanner steady. Don't move around too quickly. Some people opt for a tripod but I find it doesn't allow for a complete scan. Also I found if your model is too complicated (drastically closer and farther from the scanner focal range in one spot) the program loses tracking. It's tricky but I find a steady hand is best

  • @4343Butch
    @4343Butch 7 місяців тому

    Mate, thanks for this, thats been really helpful am toying with 3D scanners to scan parts for 1/72 scale Aircraft and Armour models so I can create parts and print them on my 3d printer. Are you planning on reviewing other scanners? Cheers again most helpful 🙂

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 7 місяців тому

      Wonderful to hear this video has been helpful! Sounds like you've found a fun way to use scanners. I am looking into 2 other scanners right now but nothing solid at the moment. Thanks for commenting!

  • @OnnieKoski
    @OnnieKoski 7 місяців тому

    I bought the light version, and it’s pretty much the same. If it’s not a simple organic object, it just doesn’t work. My OpenScan build works MUCH better than this thing.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 7 місяців тому

      Ooh nice! I'm gonna have to look into OpenScan now

  • @DD3Dstudio
    @DD3Dstudio 7 місяців тому

    I must say that your operation is a lack of professionalism displayed during the 3D scanning process. While scanning, it seems like you're being too rigid in terms of adjusting the lighting and relying on powder. Maybe trying out different approaches, like using a different object or bigger object for scanning, could give you better outcomes. It's doubtful that any scanner could handle the kind of flawed testing methods you're employing.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 7 місяців тому

      Thank you for your comment! I'll keep that in mind for the next video. I'm always trying to improve because what's the point of creating if it's wrong on purpose, right? My next tests will be focused on model size but so far all test models have been within the advertised capabilities of the scanner. Thanks for watching!

  • @michelefrattaruolo9706
    @michelefrattaruolo9706 7 місяців тому

    Grande scanner, ottimo software ma pessimo piatto rotante. Secondo me lo scanner si incasina e il software si perde con i punti di repere del piatto giverole. Peccato!!

  • @android4cg
    @android4cg 7 місяців тому

    The parameter suggested by 3dmakerpro only influence the fusion parameters. But the real problem of the seal is the high noise from scanning. Here the SW really need to improve. Also having the option for re-calibration on your own is mandatory.

  • @rogeroneill1432
    @rogeroneill1432 7 місяців тому

    I've gotten some good results, but for larger items. It definitely doesn't do high detail and takes multiple attempts. It's definitely not a great scanner but it's super cheap. I'm debating returning it if they can't figure out any bug fixes.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 7 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing! I'll have to try again on some larger objects

  • @tseven
    @tseven 7 місяців тому

    I have the same scanner along with the multi-axis turntable. After watching yours and other's videos I'm not sure I want to keep it. I haven't opened them since I might sell them. Also 10-300mm is equal to 1-30cm (just multiply cm by 10 to get mm)

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 7 місяців тому

      Yeah I purchased mine for scanning miniatures and so far it has not been able to do that well. Might work better for larger items? (but that's a test for another video) just not what I purchased it for. I get it...

    • @tseven
      @tseven 7 місяців тому

      Your experience is definitely disappointing. Jim Overton has a video where he got good scans, one of a small crab claw and at the end he does a resin printed space figure which also turned out great. He mentioned the scanner has super shallow depth of field, so basically tiny movement towards or away from the subject will have big impact. The tripod + turntable definitely seems to be the way go.@@MileHighMaker

    • @vincentcimino1963
      @vincentcimino1963 7 місяців тому

      I seem to be having issues while scanning….its not a fluid scan in most cases, both in using the table and handheld methods. The scan skips and stop/starts or pauses?? Is it me? My computer? The software? or is this common? If you have a suggestion please pass it on. Thanks for all the videos too.

  • @Sloganlogo
    @Sloganlogo 7 місяців тому

    could the scanner have a malfunction ?? just wondering ??

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 7 місяців тому

      I think it might be due to the size of the model I'm scanning. At the end of the video I show an email from 3DMakerPro, and in it they say to scan objects between 10cm and 30cm, and not the advertised 1cm to 30cm. The models I'm scanning are definitely smaller than 10cm... Looks like I need another test model...

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 7 місяців тому

      I was thinking that for a bit too! But the scanner works "good enough" to make me believe it's a limitation.

    • @Sloganlogo
      @Sloganlogo 7 місяців тому

      Thanks for the info. I have just got one for the task of scanning some modeling clay characters and then using them in iclone. It will interesting to see if I have these issues @@MileHighMaker

  • @Todestelzer
    @Todestelzer 7 місяців тому

    I bought serval scanners now. Revopoint mini for really small stuff. Einscan-SP for parts of the size of a controller or slightly bigger. Einscan Einstar for big stuff. For this part I would have used the Revopoint mini. The Einscan-SP would be more convenient but it’s not made for small stuff like this. Oh and the 0.01mm accuracy must be a scam. Even my 2k€ Einscan-SP scanner has only 0.05mm accuracy. I checked it and it was 0.05 or less.

  • @android4cg
    @android4cg 7 місяців тому

    Great video! Will test higher resolution next days with my seal. Really disappointing not to have option for re-calibration. This could reduce noise due to bad calibration. Every professional 3d scanner can be calibrated on your own.

  • @cekuhnen
    @cekuhnen 7 місяців тому

    I tested multiple scanners from 3D Maker Pro and I am close to say those are sub par and very expensive. with basic 3D photogrammetry I get better scans with more details. The Ferret Pro offer fear superior tracking and scanning then the 3D Maker scanners.

  • @dge4560
    @dge4560 7 місяців тому

    Im not having the same issues. Dont know why you have that much noise. Im no youtuber and therfor not a room full of lights. Try to only have the light on you need. And close all the curtains to avoid the big UV generator called the sun.

  • @DavidFindlay
    @DavidFindlay 7 місяців тому

    I’m having the same issues with my Seal. It has very little focal area, low depth, and can’t keep tracking… also, who makes 32 bit applications anymore??

  • @LUCIANAIBVA
    @LUCIANAIBVA 7 місяців тому

    I want a refund, i cant get basic connection and its really ugly and heavy on the smart grip , this is not cash well spent

  • @andrewh2341
    @andrewh2341 7 місяців тому

    Just curious, how big is the actual physical object? I might have missed it in the video but I didn’t see a picture when I went back and scrubbed through the whole video.

    • @marvelousdecay
      @marvelousdecay 7 місяців тому

      Going by the amount of space it occupies on the turntable it’s definitely too small for the Seal.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 7 місяців тому

      It's about 17.6mm wide

    • @andrewh2341
      @andrewh2341 7 місяців тому

      @@MileHighMaker ah yeah that seems a bit small to expect too much out of a consumer grade scanner. We have a metrology grade scanner at work and there’s no way it could scan something that small and it costs literally 50x the Seal. It’s good to know the limit of the use case envelope though.

    • @rapidnetrick
      @rapidnetrick 5 місяців тому

      @@MileHighMaker So... You are 3d scanning an object that is 7/10ths of an inch with a $600 scanner and you thought you would get a detailed scan??? There is no way... Way too many issues...Especially with object you are trying to scan... The overhangs and shadows are an issue, the distance you are scanning from for that size object....last but NOT least the size of the object..... If the object is reflective(glossy/shiny) try some aby powder, flour, etc... move in closer, also append scans from multiple angles, put the object on both sides and append the scans...

  • @tobydz
    @tobydz 7 місяців тому

    Ya know what... since you're already talking to their people, you should ask them for an example scan and model of whatever they have as their "best representation of what this hardware can do". If we saw that at least we'd have a 'bar' to set it to and not go chasing what's not possible...

  • @tobydz
    @tobydz 7 місяців тому

    Dude... thank god I'm not the only one who's beating their head against this thing. I really, really want something to just *click* and figure out it's just been me the whole time... I see you dropped a new vid a day ago so I'll check that out. Side note: 20:20 that 'squeak'.... my wife's jaw hit the floor when she heard that... I do that *exact* sound alllll the time LOL....

  • @333oaktree
    @333oaktree 7 місяців тому

    Can anyone recommend an alternative that is still reasonably priced? Bought the seal and it is disappointing. Please help. Thank you

  • @Phanboy
    @Phanboy 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for making this video. I got the lite and my experience was the same. The software unintuitive, the scanning is not smooth at all and I've yet to get any working scan.

  • @canofanger
    @canofanger 7 місяців тому

    Try spraying the model with dry shampoo spray first. It makes a lot of difference in the scan.

    • @MileHighMaker
      @MileHighMaker 7 місяців тому

      Great tip! I did try out coating the model in flour and that helped a bit!

  • @KallenbergMD
    @KallenbergMD 7 місяців тому

    That totally depends on what you are looking to do with it, if you wanna catch microscopic details of a 2cm Warhammer Figure, yeah maybe you should buy a 15k professional Dental scanner or something like that, if you wanna reverse engineer some parts ( firearm accessories or car) than I already had some good results....

  • @denisstepanenko3037
    @denisstepanenko3037 7 місяців тому

    What do you want from cheap Chineese 3d scanner. I made DIY SLS 3d scanner (two industral cameras and dlp projector) it cost at least 3 times more than seal.

  • @JustPlainRob
    @JustPlainRob 7 місяців тому

    Typical "we made something and shipped it so we're done" Kickstarter moneygrab trash marketed as a real working product.

  • @JustPlainRob
    @JustPlainRob 7 місяців тому

    Does it really take 11 mins to say "this thing is a scam ripoff, don't buy it"...?

    • @Todestelzer
      @Todestelzer 7 місяців тому

      It’s certainly not made for such a small part. I would use a Revopoint mini for it. Edit: But they labeled it as it would be capable of doing so. False marketing.

  • @NicholasMavrikBrandt
    @NicholasMavrikBrandt 7 місяців тому

    honestly their products seem to be shit I have bought 2 of their crap, and its all sitting in a corner because its awful, the software is probably the letdown and I haven't found a 3rd party software that accepts their scanners