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The selling to the foreign market action can be done as many times as you want to take the move until the card is replaced. Not only can the middle class and capitalist both use the same foreign market card to take the move, but those players can use the market on multiple turns in the same round if they have the goods to sell. Does that make sense? Let me know if you have any follow up questions.

@@LakesideGamers5thank you so much for this! I had a hard time deciphering “once per action” if it is per turn or as an action phase as a whole for both capitalist and middle class 😅😅

Once per action is every time you play a card (or discard a card for another action). Any time you see that in the rules you can apply that instruction accordingly. I hope you are enjoying the game!

You are correct that the election would immediately move the policy marker and you would benefit from lower taxes during the Pay Taxes step of the Production page. That is one of a few examples where it would be to your benefit to do elections in the last round, but the key was that you did an immediate election to make it happen. If I were to consider doing something similar, I would want to be confident that I would win the election, otherwise I would not want to use the move when I could potentially do another business deal or foreign trade to make more money. I would also do everything I could in the earlier rounds to keep taxes in the middle or low. If taxes were high at the beginning of round 5, I would absolutely do what you did to try to win the game. :)

@@LakesideGamers5 perfect! Thank you for the quick response! I was 100% confident as I had some "leftover" influence whereas my opponent had none 😉 really can't wait for the next time! Ahhhh, talking about election and rules. If I use the immediate vote during action phase, would it even be possible to go for another vote within that same policy?

Short answer: yes. Long answer: The rule limiting elections is that a you can’t propose a change for a policy that currently has a bill proposal. So if there is an action card used or an influence cube used to call for a vote, the vote is resolved and players can propose another bill on the same policy. Beware the fact that your opponent also has this same bill proposal opportunity, so the immediate vote takes away the protection of having a bill marker on the board that isn’t resolved until the carry-out elections step.

In general the automas can play out the game, but I agree that the set nature and step by step reactivity makes it so they aren’t too difficult to beat. A live player can make adjustments based on what they see you doing, but the automa will only adjust based on what the formula tells it to do.

@LakesideGamers5 That makes a lot of sense. After watching several of your videos, I watched John LaRuffa's video, and he, too, shares your opinion that the Simple Automa is far too easy to beat and the Advanced Automa is far too complicated to learn. Having designed automas, I'll have to tweak it.

Thanks! I am glad you are finding the videos helpful! It really is a great game. :)

As a whole I treat it as a low priority policy, but the Capitalist wants to keep fewer public businesses so more workers work for the capitalist. The working class likes more business work options, and working for the public companies allows the working class to buy from the state instead of the capitalist, slowing down the capitalist. Middle class will go whichever way benefits them. If they want middle class workers to hire out, more public companies is a plus. If they want to hire working class workers, then less public company competition is better. The state likes more companies to make more money and potentially have the option for more loans, but sometimes having to buy the extra companies and pay workers when the other players don’t buy the goods the state produces creates dicey situations for the state.

I’m glad to help! It is such a great game.

Yes, I have been seeing information about that recently. I know the nostalgia factor wouldn’t be the same for me, but it might be worth looking into as a game on its own merits.

@@LakesideGamers5 - I'm not a card game fan myself, but I've heard this new SW one is good.

Yes, i have both Pacific games. I decided to not completely hit every version of every game that came out along the way (you’ll notice revised edition is not there either), and while different they were similar enough that I decided to focus in on the newest generation version. I enjoy the Pacific theater games a lot. China’s unique wrinkles are interesting to me, even if they will still get wiped out if the Japanese concentrate on them. But Japan having to choose which direction to go and fighting off attacks from every direction make it a great A&A experience.

Thanks! I agree that it is nice to not have to think about the rules a ton when playing online. Just focus on playing a great game.

It's not just the rules for me. Sometimes there is a gap between me knowing a legal move and knowing what to click to make that move happen on other sites like Tabletopia. Every game module on BGA is different, but none of them will let you lay a card down in the wrong spot. On other services, you can make a real mess of the playing area because cards and dice don't just snap into the proper place. I hope that makes sense.

Convince middle class and working class to raise taxes.

@@LakesideGamers5 How? Middle class benefits from taxes, don't they?

Middle class does get some benefit from lower taxes for their businesses, but their workers are taxed like working class workers. I would angle to offer something middle class wanted policy wise in exchange for higher taxes. It might not work, but it would be the thing I would attempt.

If you have 3 or 4 players, the middle class gets to be kingmaker, and if they want policies to stay in the middle, it is hard to get them to the other spots unless you have an absurd amount of purple cubes to sway the elections. Those labor unions can help, but it is tricky if the others work in concert against your A proposals.

@@LakesideGamers5well, I played the working class in a 4-player game last weekend, and in the end the State was the "kingmaker", mostly helping out the middle class and even helping it (him) get all 5 policies in the middle spot (which meant a whopping 15 points at game end!). but after the game finished, I realized, the middle class never took the "buy goods and services" action and used them only from their storage, instead of the "G&S space" on their player board.. lol! well, it seems no one paid attention to that, and I was too tired the day before to rewatch the whole rules video (it was my second playthrough, after months hiatus)..

@@wicked8576 yea, little things that everyone misses make a big difference. :). A thought I had would be to try to do some horse trading with capitalist and/or the state to try to get them to vote with you instead of middle class (maybe offer to vote for lower taxes with the CC if they will vote for free education or something like that), and that could help with the logjam in the middle, but I think doing that type of subtle negotiation and trade will work better when everyone is more well versed in the game.

Thanks!

Thank you!

@@LakesideGamers5 No doubt 💯

You are welcome! I hope it is a helpful resource. :)

Thanks for the suggestions! I haven’t played any of those ones. You are right that Wealth of Nations (and its Adam Smith reference) would fit really well in this category. I just didn’t know it existed until you brought it up, so thanks! I’ll be checking that one out for sure, and I want to try those other ones you suggested as well.

@@LakesideGamers5 they might be a harder find than the ones you mentioned. Wealth came out about 15 years ago and the publishing company shrank considerably with the recession. With that said, they'd like to try and get a reprint off the ground at some point, or get it onto Board Game Arena. Similarly, Big Shoulders some through a comparatively small printing after getting a lot of buzz upon release. There is talk of crowdfunding a second edition of this also. A similar story with Tesla v Edison. Artana was scooped up by Genius Games about five years ago, and have sold through their current printing. I don't know what their future plans are. The other qualifier is that this is two different games playing with and without the expansion. With Powering Up, it's a tight Euro with faction powers. Base game only it's like 95% a stock game and very cutthroat.

Me too. :). Which is why I try to integrate games and simulation to my classes whenever I can.

Good clarification. Thanks! I never got to play the original original. While the look is very different, it seems to be the same as the MB game. But I could be wrong. Are there any notable gameplay differences between the Nova, Jedko, and MB versions?

@@LakesideGamers5, no differences between the Nova and Jedko versions that I am aware of, but there were some tweaks made when the Milton Bradley version came out such as the map had some territorial differences, some neutrals had IPC value, each country had a special unit or ability, and there was an Atomic Bomb tech. Maybe some other differences I don't recall.

That is awesome! I will be looking that one up.

When Renegade games did a poll on which battle they would make into a new game a few months ago, I voted for Stalingrad. North Africa should be interesting, but Stalingrad would be such a compelling battle. Battle of Britain and Midway would be the others I would love to see to highlight Naval and Air warfare in a quick battle.

@@LakesideGamers5 I mean you had Germany, Italy, Romania Bulgaria against Russia. I would love to see those pieces on the board.

It would be difficult, since there were two stages to the battle, there was the German advance on the Volga, and the Russian encirclement of the 8th army of 250,000 Germans by 2 million Soviet soldiers. The biggest moment of uncertainty was Stalin's relocation of the 2 million man army from Moscow to Stalingrad. This would be difficult to get accross in a game focused on the battle, you would need a game that focuses on the entire eastern front.

Yes, you need to do 2 player with Capitalists and Working Class, 3 adds Middle class, and 4 adds the State. If you really want the state or middle class, you can play with 2 or 3 automas, since all 3 are included in Crisis and Control. It will just make for a longer game.