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@@AdamerAndKael aw, thanks! Glad you’ve enjoyed! :D

To be honest, half the time I dont understand my own plot. I hope its at least amusing :)

@@redwings13400 I don't mean your fun, pseudo lore with the footman. I mean the story 1999 Blizzard was trying to make: "Suddenly the portal you just clawed your way to and destroyed in Tides...well, it actually ISN'T destroyed and now you have to fight your way back to the portal and go through it."

@ haha that’s fair. I think the logic went something like… “oh wow, this game sold way better than we thought it would. We should make an expansion, how do we continue the story from here?” “Uh… what if the story… didn’t end?” “Genius!”

@redwings13400 That$ probably exactly what happened 😆

@@PsychedelicMakai you aren’t the first person to request that, and I’ve thought about it, but I won’t promise anything. I have no idea whether it’s possible.

@@richhornie7000 I couldn’t get it to work. There is one commenter here who claims to have done it, but it’s ridiculously hard. The issue is that this campaign has so much power in your heroes that the levels become so insanely different without them. I found I needed my heroes once furion and tyrande showed up, because the game is balanced around that power spike from that point on.

@@richhornie7000 hehehe yep. This false king claims to be a footman but knows nothing of footman society, seeking to destroy it from the shadows.

@@Danielbg199 aw thanks! Wc2 only peasants will probably be coming out next weekend, and after that I’m not sure what I’m going to do. I imagine I’ll come back to wc3 occasionally, but I think I’d get bored if I stuck to one game, so I’ll probably do other things too. Glad you enjoyed!

@redwings13400 kk thanks so much! Good luck

Yeah, I completely forgot about it while writing the script, probably because I didn't play this campaign until years after I played the orc campaign originally. It doesn't really compute as a core part of the story in my mind. However, I think it definitely carries the same themes the rest of the campaign has, with Thrall using the orcs as diplomatic warriors to rescue the trolls from a negative situation. This ties in really nicely as to why the trolls refused to drink Mannoroth's blood, and further reinforces the theme of compassionate strength being the way Thrall led the horde in to a new era.

I've heard that before, and I think it's pretty cool. I feel like The Frozen Throne Night Elf, Blood Elf, and especially Orc campaigns go a little too far with the rpg element by overtuning the heroes to such an extent that the units feel like they stop mattering. However, in general the hero system works really well for the game, and I love the way they made such an expansive universe here. I've never actually played WoW, so I can't comment too much in how well it translated in to the game, but I gotta assume it was pretty successful since the game did extremely well.

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@@KoonSeckMaw I’m guessing it’s possible, but I’m probably not going to do it, just too many other things I want to do.

@ trust me I do it since last years ago

@@snowash4052 thank you! Glad you enjoyed! :)

@@la912 100% Every little detail in this game is just so well designed. It’s incredible.

@@neo7538 haha I got that reaction from a few people. I’ll try to make it more clear in future videos where I’m going with my intros, lol

:D Hope you enjoyed!

@@Bohous156 well, if I stop uploading suddenly, you’ll know who to blame. (Probably me because I’m very inconsistent, but shhhh)

@@phaneros hehe. The archipelago clip was mainly because I wanted to play a clip of all in, and that was the one I could find, but a Warcraft archipelago mod could be very fun :)

Haha yeah, a few people have told me they were a bit confused by the start of the video being about a different game, I probably could have phrased the introduction a little better to make it more clear where I was going with that. The Warcraft 3 editor is the best RTS editor I've ever used, and I spent so much time with it as a kid. Honestly that might warrant its own video, because that editor not only created so much replayability for the game, but also provided me a creative outlet for basically an entire decade. The lack of a campaign editor on release was the final straw in making me avoid reforged, because that was the most important part of the entire game for me.

@redwings13400 I don't know if it's the best but thank to it it's the game where I spent the most time on it

@@FeatherBed-sc6vd yay! Hope you enjoy! :)

She likes sitting next to me while I record. It’s very cute :)

@@devinusleton6634 I could see that. Though we don’t really know what the humans did, they may have avoided ashenvale, or been a bit more diplomatic about things.

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@@WrynnCZ thank you! :)

Yep :) They do basically the same thing in Starcraft, and it works so well in both games. Playing around with worker mechanics is one of the fastest ways to create a unique faction in a game, and I love it.

night elves are the new zerg!

I've never actually played WoW, but I think it would be harder to create something like a world of Starcraft because there's a bit less mystery and diversity in that universe. That's not a terrible thing by itself, Starcraft does what it does really well, but you're a bit more limited in the set of places and enemies you can fight in a setting like Starcraft, while Warcraft is just a universe filled with fantastical enemies that can be developed at any point. Also, nice. I haven't played HMM before, but I've heard pretty good things. I've only played AOE a little bit, and while I've had fun in the campaigns I've played, it's never hooked me the same way.

@@redwings13400 Starcraft is quite realistic with space being mostly empty and most planets being devoit of any native life. Ive played WoW a little bit but its not for me. I like finite games which tell a story with a conclusion or Dota2. I really loved the AoE3 campagne as a kid who didnt know history. The Hospitaler knights, more commonly known as the knights of Malta, search for the fountain of youth has stuck with me to this day. Now that I know history very well tho I suspect I would see the inacuracies if I replayed most campagnes now. In HoMM3 how all the official 9 factions formed is prity obvious. Humans: form crosbowmen to knights the humans man their own armies which they can afford because the Kingdom of Erathia is largest and most populous state. Their coat of arms has a griffin on it and the royal surname is Griffinheart because before the land was united the faction of humans which had taimed grifins would win over the faction that hadnt. And the angles just myseriously show up during the campagne and we can only guess that theyre there to stop the demons and put themselves under human command because they figure the humans wouldnt trust them. ... Fortress: Tatalia is a humid swamp land to lizardmen and gnolls could never go man to man with Erathia so instead they levarige their good defencive terrain and are beast taimers raising armies mostly of what are the fantasy world animals from wyverns to bazilisks to hydras. They dont go on the offencive outside of the swamp because imagine the logistics of suplying an army of animals outside of their native terain. During their campagne they just overran the undermanned Erathian border forts in the swamp and had a brawl with the orks as Tatalia and Krewlod now had a border when they previously didnt. Where as the fan made mod which everyone treats as must have expansion, Horn of the Abiss, has 2 more factions: the cove (pirates) and the factory (rag tag exiles) Their respective campagnes are about assembling these factions (and going on an adventure across the entire myserious fantasy world not just sticking to 1 continent) so the fans would understand why they are as they are, cos theyre bough gunpowder towns in an otherwise frozen high medival world and the original devs in New World Computing actually got death threats for wanting to impliment a sci fi factory town (understanding that the fans wanted HoMM and MM lore to be seperate they implimented the elemental Conflux town instead). The world is so fantastical and so rich in stuff we know that we can just imagine what the mostly unexplored rest of the world is like.

@@harm991 that’s fair. Not every game has the resources to do what Warcraft 3 did, and I certainly don’t expect wargroove to create hundreds of new models to expand its universe the way wc3 did. Still, I don’t think it’s too much to ask to hope for at least a little faction differentiation in wargroove? Maybe give the undead 2 skeletons every time they create one, but start them at 50% health. Cherry grove mages could get extra range. Give Florian soldiers a movement bonus in the woods, or some sort of forest camouflage ability to hide them from other players. Give heavensong powerful warships. Make it so that the pirate faction can’t train warships at all, but have special ships that can board low health enemy warships and steal them! Maybe doing this would mess with the game balance, but I think this would be more than offset by the amount of crazy campaign scenarios you could create with this. Imagine how cool it would be to use multiple factions in a single level if each faction were distinct, you could find combos that would otherwise never exist. The factions would have more reason to work together within the gameplay, which would make the story feel so much more alive! For better or worse, this is a hill I’m willing to die on. Wargroove is a good game already. Even with its limitations, it’s still fun. Introducing faction differentiation would make it a great game.

@@losvatos6714 yeah, lol. The scourge should be constantly evolving as it incorporates new species in to its mix. I really like what they did with sylvanas and the high elves, resurrecting them in to banshees. I also like the way they expanded on crypt fiends by introducing anub-arak in the expansion, making him basically spider arthas. It would have been really cool to expand on these story beats with other new conquered people being added to the scourge, and I think that’s a missed opportunity for the game.

@redwings13400 it surely was a missed opportunity to have more undead beast/humanoids from other races. Atleast they redeemed themself in wow with much more variations of creatures and races serving the scourge. They did an okay job with adding the high elves to the scourge when conquering their homeland,even if in my opinion it was done poorly and little bit late in the last chapter. They missed giving the scourge orcs from the demon gate mission, the lich king, who was once an orc could also communicate with their warlocks and win some of them on our side. Also ogre/orc abominations should be a thing.

In my original script where I went over the entire game, I was very critical of the undead campaign, which I think actually does not do a very good job with introducing new units. I actually would go so far to say that the original undead campaign in Warcraft 3 is just not that great overall. The high elves have one good showing and two kinda pathetic showings, the theming with Dalaran is something that reforged was actually able to improve upon significantly (according to Grant anyway, I haven't played reforged), and new undead units kind of just appear arbitrarily. I think it would have been a more interesting campaign if Arthas had to recreate the scourge from the ground up, and they had more specialized undead similar to how Banshees are the souls of dead high elves. So yeah, Warcraft 3 isn't perfect. I chose the orc campaign to focus on in this video because I think that's the best example of what Warcraft 3 does right, but the game doesn't do this consistently in every campaign.

Aways felt lame, how there was no explanation how the scourge got crypt fiends and even gargoyles. They just appear in the northrend misssion, but they could've given them more introduction. There's also zero explanation in the scourge campaign why are those creatures helping the scourge. Also felt lame that in reign of chaos, you could play with every faction hero in the campaign, except the dreadlord. Like i get that they are powerful demons, but like they could atleast throw in tichoundrius to assist you in the last mission.

​@@losvatos6714 When it comes to RoC, it is not explicitly stated crypt fiends are undead nerubians, but you see live nerubians in the Northrend missions and it shouldn't be hard to put one and two together considering you are fighting against the undead faction, however in TFT it is explicit with Anub'arak's introduction and the journey through Azjol'nerub Same thing for the frost wyrms, in RoC they are introduced as the Lich King's pets, but in TFT you see Arthas turn the blue dragon Sapphiron into a frost wyrm, so it's obvious that frost wyrms are just undead dragons, most likely blue ones since they live in Northrend The gargoyles are more of a mystery because even with using information outside of Warcraft 3 (books and WoW), there is no explanation to what they are and where they come from, but following the trend of the crypt fiends and frost wyrms it's easy to come to the conlucions they might just be some native species from Northrend that was turned into undead servants, which is most likely the case Unfortunately Obsidian Statues/Destroyers have no in game explanation, stated or deduced, unlike other new TFT units for other factions, the only possible explanation is that they were just built by the Scourge, since they start out as constructs, but how and why and why can they turn into Destroyers, nope, no explanation (however unlike the gargoyles these were explained retroactively in WoW, but as for War3, nothing)

That's true, and if I were doing an 'Warcraft 3 only grunts' redo, I would definitely try to do that (it's one of my missed opportunities from that video). In this video though, I was trying to avoid cheese to give the perspective of what a first time player would experience in the campaign. :)

In some ways, I feel like the overwhelming success of esports was a bit of a slow poison to the RTS genre. People fell in love with pro RTS because they fell in love with the campaigns first. We fell in love with the universes these games created, the campaigns that we played over and over again as a kid, and the custom map maker that kept the game being replayable in so many different ways. Most people who watch esports aren't diehard sweats who spend all their time laddering. The people who made esports successful are ones who loved the games for being deep, complex games, then gained appreciation for the players who are willing to commit so much time to playing it at the highest level. Trying to recreate a starcraft 2 style pro scene isn't going to work unless there's a hook to get players to love the game, and a spectacular single player campaign is the best hook a game has to offer. A strong esports presence in a game develops because the game is successful casually. Trying to engineer an esports engine before your game is successful casually is doomed to failure, because nobody will care about it until they're already hooked. Thank you for reading my TED Talk on why Stormgate is doomed to fail unless they seriously reverse course and change what they're trying to prioritize. xD

@@redwings13400 You don't "make" a pro scene. You let it develop on its own. Trying to force it will only end in failure.

Awww, thank you! I haven't made any videos like this before, so I had no idea how it would be received, but I'm glad people seem to be enjoying this one! :)

Yeah. I don't think Warcraft 2 is a bad game, and I wouldn't make so many videos about a game I dislike. However, Warcraft 3's faction differentiation is really what sets it apart from the other two games in the franchise, giving it the ability to tell a much deeper story and really flesh out the world so well! Rewriting the Warcraft 2 story in a Warcraft 3 style has a lot of potential to be a great campaign, and I think there are mods that have tried to do that. I haven't personally played them, but what I've seen from them looks pretty solid. Good luck with your balance patch, I think that has potential to be really cool!

@redwings13400 yeah warcraft 2 could be way more than what it is both in terms of story for example the multiple factions go underused allowing the player only to play as blackrocks or black tooths , while in human campaign you only play as azeorth and lordaeorn there can be much more done with the factions like playing as stromgarde in some missions or kul'tiras in battle of crestfall , or playing as the burning blade in stratholme and the Dragon maw in dalaran its just a color change but it makes the factions feel more involved in the conflict. The game is simple and too simple that it hurts the enjoyment of the game add on it ranged units being near useless and regeneration being a joke , many spells are underpowered like torando and skeletons , not to mention the underused orc heroes in beyond the dark portal making orc campaign feel less impressive than the human one. One example I could think of in narrative and storytelling is the player color being red (stromgarde) in dun algaz mission introducing knights through the human kingdom that is known for being mighty warriors. Its a shame this very light and visually and sound appealing game falls flat in gameplay compared to other RTS like age of empires 1 and red alert. Oh and thank you (: im really looking forward to publish the mod.

Haha, yeah, I can see that. Expecting warcraft 3 and bam, suddenly a similar name that's clearly a different game. Another commenter thought it was an ad. xD Guess I need to think about that in the future. Glad you stuck it out and enjoyed the video after your initial confusion!

I've never actually played WoW, so I can't really comment on the story there too much. Warcraft 3 definitely does a great job though :)

@@syndicatepenguin8420 yep, I really like how the campaign puts these units together as alliances that the characters in the story have to work for, rather than as one faction that’s always been together and always will be. It gives the story a bit more fluidity, the orcs in game aren’t “the horde”, but they’re more “thralls horde,” and I think that’s really cool!

@ true! I also wondered back then that we were only able to experience the full human TFT tech tree for only one mission which is the very first blood elf mission (Misconceptions). Basically normal human tech tree with the blood elven priests and spell breakers. I always wondered how Garithos used that whole human tech tree with blood elves before turning against them

@@Creedonator hahaha it does kinda feel like an ad at first, doesn’t it?

@@Karina-winsmore yesss :D

@@haze300 it’s really fun trying to destroy their bases! I usually do that too, the only reason I didn’t in the playthrough for this video is because I thought I might be running out of gold and was a bit afraid they were going to kill Jaina, haha.

@@davidpaul8647 i originally wrote a 25 page script for the entire campaign, but I wasn’t really satisfied with it; so I changed it to only cover the orc campaign instead. Maybe I’ll revisit this script and take a look at other campaigns at some point, it’s definitely something I could do :)

Oooh, you're right! I didn't even notice that parallel, that's brilliant!

​@@redwings13400Funnily enough, Thrall gets presented with _two._ In the -prologue- -Exodus of the Horde- prologue, remember? And he purifies them both (the first one even shows up 2 missions down the line!)

@@equusquaggaquagga536 lol I also never noticed the parallel... Makes me wonder if the fountain that was in the thrall mission was intentionally corrupted from demons, or was it corrupted from some primitive chaotic force.

Yep, I really enjoy how there are so many different groups that make up each faction, and that lets different heroes express their personalities by giving them different units to command :)

About the Night Elf one: their faction name is the Sentinel, while the Night Elves are the main race of said faction. And don't forget the Dryad, they are the children of Cenarion. For the Scourge, you can also add Gargoyles, Nerubian, and Nathrezim/dreadlord (like Mal'Ganis and Tichondrius).

@@kevinabiwardani7550 sentinels are only the night elves under tyrande. Druids include furion, the dryads and cenarius. Nathrezim are demons. I guess I should rename scourge into burning legion cuz demons also include eredar (like Archimonde and Kiljaden), pit lord (like mannoroth and magtheridon) and the lich king

I like how each faction is really unique and tells a story. Alliance combines dwarven steam punk contraptions with the really high end magic of the -High- Blood Elves while also keeping the somewhat crude humans around as the backbone of the faction However, the subfactions tell a story - Quel'Thalas was relatively unscathed (compared to Stromgarde and Khaz Modan), so it would make sense that the elves would be able to field their own army (also the fact that they left the Alliance) Meanwhile, dwarves of Khaz Modan, while being immensely helpful, can _not_ form their own faction. Why? Well, Khaz Modan was besieged and later occupied by the Old Horde during both Warcraft 1 and 2, with many labourers dying in mines, refineries and foundries, as well as many of the warriors dying in a war or in slavery So dwarves don't have workers, melee units, proper non-gun units (apart from the Gryffin Rider) and spellcasters (as if they had many beforehand) All the while humans can pretty much stand on their own, having access to melee warriors of all varieties, ranged guys (remember King Arthas?) and spellcasters (alrhough no artillery) That is not to mention Kul'Tiras having a boatload of dwarves and no elves, meaning that their expedition after the orcs was sent after elves left the Alliance The number of dwarves also emphathizes the short distance from Khaz Modan to Kul'Tiras (while dwarves get lost on their way to Lordaeron, which is farther away and further in-land)

(Warhammer would've split all factions into subfactions for the sake of selling more) The Horde. Let's start with the Old Horde. A relentless, ravaging, bloodthirsty and an ultimately unsustainable "alliance" of megalomaniacal monsters. No Witch Doctors, no Spirit Walkers, no Shadow Hunters, no Reincarnation, no Troll Regen - absolutely zero healing, while AS and MS buffs are numerous and strong - this also mirrors their WC2 appearance No air support - so their only option at killing Knights is brute force (with a bit of Warlocks) and their only reliable option of Anti-Air is Ensnare (which also adds up to the "tribal monster on a rampage") The Fel Horde. Old Horde turned to 11. Absolutely no ranged units except Catapults, Kodos and Warlocks. Zero healing. Low armor. No air. Truly unsustainable mess of a faction that is more overpowered than any other thanks to Demon blood (except for Naga ig). The New Horde. Not a ragtag misfit militia or a chauvinistic military state yet, but a glorious beacon for all warriors who meet an unbreakable wall and are willing to forgo their old bloody ways in favour of a brighter future Really weak disabling spellcasters, which shows the "new Orc" mentality of being in harmony with the spirits - yes, you can attack and can kill, but only in relative defence, Crippling or Cursing even your foes is forbidden Trolls bring much needed cunning and regeneration, Tauren double that with their strong spirit and ancestral help Weak air, which shows that the Horde is not yet in its prime, that the alliances made are still fresh and underdeveloped (also the fact that jungle trolls are not the highly advanced Zandalari or the dominant Amani of old) (also that Tauren can't fly) Low armor, high health, really strong individual units - shows that the Horde is in its infancy, that Orcs were slaves and Trolls and Tauren were not very advanced when they met Thrall; high resiliency and a very strong ability to rebuild and start anew; low numbers of member races and individual strength of the spirit (meanwhile Scourge and Alliance to a lesser extent can flood their enemies in cheap units) The high food cost emphathizes the strong individuality of all members of the Horde, while also showcasing the relative instability in it and the difficulties of commanding battle-thirsty Orcs and peaceful Tauren The defence is multi-layered and includes normal Peons in relative safety, again focusing on the resilience of Orcs and the Horde at large I don't know if it is symbolical, but the Spirit Lodge has 6 ends for 3 factions Towers are relatively weak and underdeveloped, with proper Fortifications coming waaay later Heroes are extremely strong, meaning that they are legends (Grom), leaders (Thrall and Cairne) and paragons of what the Horde and its members encompass (Rokhan) (Meanwhile Undead "heroes" eat their people and are relatively weak) I also like that other members of the Horde can not form their own factions Tauren are nomadic and unadvanced, so they won't have the skills to smelt iron in industrial capacities, nor would they need deforestation to built their camps Tauren don't have a way of dealing with Harpies. Like literally no way. That's funny Obviously they don't have artillery and attacking/disabling spell casters - they are Native Americans, what do you want from them, guns? I like that Tauren don't have much in terms of buildings, only Totems and a part of the Spirit Lodge - why would they need a proper Lumber Mill or a Fortress? oh and Tauren can't fly so no Tauren fliers Trolls can't form a faction - again, no capacities (or needs) for industrialization, so no artillery; they deliberately left Gurubashi to rot because of Darkspear's dislike of curses and other disabling/attacking spells; the air is scouts retrofitted to be skirmishers and raiders; and no melee units because they were not warriors, but hunters instead

@@aureliodeprimus8018 counterpoint: maybe wargroove and other turn based strategy games that use large amounts of units should use asymmetrical symmetry. I like wargroove, and enjoyed my time with the game, but the entire time I was playing it, I wanted something more. When sedge first pulled out the gloom giants in the campaign, I was like, “ok, this is awesome, this must be a unique unit that only the plant creatures can build, I love these things and can’t wait to see everyone else’s ultimate unit!” It was exciting, and when I learned that every faction had giants, I lost a lot of appreciation for the world they were building. Then, when wargroove two was being made, I was really hoping they’d give each faction something unique, and when they didn’t, I was super disappointed. I don’t think they even need an entire overhaul of the system like StarCraft or Warcraft 3, I just want… something. Some way to differentiate each faction in wargroove beyond its commanders. The codex says that these units are different, that fellheim soldiers are numerous, but that heavensong soldiers are elite combat units. It says that Florian snipers can camouflage themselves in various terrains. It claims cherry grove has powerful mages. These claims do not survive the gameplay. I seriously believe that if wargroove wants to go from a good game to a great game, the biggest thing it could do is create faction differentiation. This doesn’t even need to be a complete overhaul of the system, but maybe it’s in unique units, maybe just giving each faction buffs to certain units the factions would specialize in. Right now, wargroove is stuck in Warcraft 2 mode, and this series has potential to create a Warcraft 3. I think it has so much potential to be something incredible. So… uh… I respectfully disagree, I think the example fits pretty well. I’ll end my rant now, but this entire video idea sprung up from my frustration while playing wargroove, and thinking about how it could be so much better with relatively small changes xD

@@redwings13400 Yeah, but the whole point of Wargroove was to be a spiritual successor to Advance Wars. It would basically lose its original purpose and alienate the people it was targeting in the first place.... But, if you are not stuck with only a PC, i can recommend Unicorn Overlord to you. It should satisfy this itch quite well.^^

@ that’s fair, I suppose. I never played advance wars so I didn’t come in with those preconceptions. I have heard very good things about unicorn overlord, and should definitely play it at some point! I think I’d enjoy it a lot.

@ Yeah, though your point highlighted a major difference between AW and Wargroove. In AW it made a lot of sense to have symmetrical armies, because they had modern militaries. An artillery is still an artillery at the end of the day and the specifications came from the commanders. It doesn`t translate that well to "biological" units.

@@Gismo359 Ohhh!! I was wondering about that! I wrote that line before I played the campaign for recording purposes, using my previous experience with the level as a guide. I was really confused when the workers didn’t attack when reviewing my footage, but I figured maybe it was just something that happened later in the level or something. I kinda loved it when the chaos peons attacked, it was a unique ai quirk that I always assumed was intentional lol!

I love when bugs end up enchancing the experience.

@@Undeath9087 :D Yeah, Warcraft 3 has a lot of really smart unit design. As a kid I loved spamming skeletons from necromancers, watching the battlefield turn in to skeletons was so satisfying!

@@redwings13400 An interesting note is in the undead Campaign when you fight the elves of Silvermoon. Their armies are much more fragile without the Human Knights, the bulky Dwarven Footmen, Griffon Riders, the elven workers can't even defend themselves as human militia can. Sure they have powerful magical defenses that are highly specialized but it leads into their arrogance being their undoing. Blackrock orcs also had an interesting change where each base had its own unique auxiliary units, making them a more 1:1 version of the Warcraft 2 Horde.

@@chickenbacon5197 Speaking of Blackrock orcs, it's a neat detail that they still have the pig farms from Warcraft 2, while Thrall's "new" Horde has the supply-bunker Burrows. One is innovative, the other is stuck to the old ways (worshipping demons included). If only we didn't have to wait until Reforged for the Blackrocks to have forest trolls instead of darkspear trolls...

0:56 :D For Tides, it's coming... Eventually. Can't promise when, because making videos takes a lot of time and I do this as a hobby, but I do want to make videos for it at some point. I also can't promise ever doing Beyond the Dark Portal with only workers, because... uh... Those levels are terrifying and I don't know if I can do it, haha.

Ooh, you're absolutely right! I never thought about that because I only played the prologue campaign once I got Frozen Throne, but when the prologue campaign is first, it makes a lot of sense why the trolls would refuse Mannoroth's offer while the orcs accept it. This also ties in to the theme of the campaign, as the Trolls represent the first species Thrall brought in to the horde with his aggressive protective diplomacy. Great point! I hadn't thought about that!

@@redwings13400 i wish atleast some trolls would get corrupted with grom orcs. There must be atleast some greedy troll bastards that would like to tape in demon blood. Or the chaos orcs forcefully make them drink, I mean they got fell kodo beast..