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@razorfgc I literally switched to stryker because of you and then they nerfed him lol. They REFUSE to give smoke any clear gameplan. I can't believe you took him to elder god. I got to God last season but I just can't hack it with his moveset.

Smoke was definitely top 5 material before the stryker nerf, he's kinda strugglin right now but I think there's potential with kano still but I just dont want to play this game anymore lol@@JustinKeithD

@razorfgc yeah you shouldn't want to. They dont care about it. I made a 25 minute video about smokes flaws. A few simple changes would give him a clear archetype and gameplan. Against anyone who's good it's pulling teeth to open someone up. At this point I kinda wish his back2 was a 20 frame mid. I dont care about the "mix" people claim he has. I'd rather it be a better whiff punish tool instead of it getting interrupted 80% of the time.

Cancelling that move doesnt cost meter

I use meter mostly to go invisible nowadays since I think smoke needs to go invisible to become a real threat. I usually do block strings into ex smokebomb with kameo to cover me as I go invisible and mix or after a combo to do a setup.

I think smokes cancels are one of the easier ones we've seen in mk games or fighting games in general lol, If you're having issues with execution and can't do the cancels consistently on hit and on block, you're playing smoke at a very nerfed level. Just pressing back and block to cancel a special is nothing compared to the fireball cancels we had in mkx which many characters had to use to be good in that game so I don't think smoke's cancels are a problem at all. Basically you can play smoke however you want but imo at a high level he relies on these cancels to become a threat and apply pressure or even get meterless combos on par with the rest of the cast.

@razorfgc7502 nothing you saying is wrong, though the fact still remains that in comparison to the other characters ("in this current version of mk") smokes Teleport Cancel up close forces one of if not the most hardest combo path in mk1, I don't know of any other character in this game where to get max combo damage the Execution is this demanding, no it not the hardest thing ever but you will drop it way more than any other characters cobo in mk1 and thats if you are doing the easyest set up into up close smoke Teleport, try doing down 1 or forward 1 into smoke teleport cancel into pressure and tell me it's not hard into. No, seriously, go on go try it, and if you ever get it three times in a row, I want you to ask yourself, Would you try that in a match... how you are going to feel about doing d1 or f1 into smoke Teleport in a match is how most people feel about doing it in his combos it's just not convenient to most players

Yea I agree that smoke is execution heavy compared to other characters but that's what I like about him. You can easily tell apart the good smokes from the bad smokes. Although it is execution heavy, the cancels give mindgames that other chars can't with just staggering. He also gets to launch from his low, his overhead, and his far reaching high meterlessly while other characters are forced to use a kameo or meter to do that. So in my opinion, it is execution heavy but it gives you tools that other characters don't have access to. @@TOILETPOOL

What move were you cancelling from?

@@razorfgc all cancels bro, all of them are negative, on block of curse

Its up to you, I sometimes do kanoball but if they mash and get hit by kanoball then they get sent flying and you dont really get the mix u spent a bar for so sometimes i do kanoball and if they keep getting hit i start doing knives

@@razorfgcso you’re saying condition first with Kano ball then once they are getting hit go with the knives

Well I've actually swapped to stryker now and his nades work way better lmao, I dont use kano anymore@@DuudePeepDis

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It's not really gimmicky, it's more of a guess. If they keep punish your cancels just don't cancel the next time and they will take the hit if they try to punish your for it

smells like up block in here

thank you shadowtron1221 you are agree

Smoke would usually do f32 which is the low into overhead. Once you start upblocking the overhead and launching him, smokes would do empty f3s and get nothing out of it or just whiff it. He sometimes hit me with f3s and didnt combo me for mashing because hes too scared to do the overhead.

So I haven’t played the game yet (been at work) but why don’t he just grab you after doing the low? Or go for the low again? Do you recover from up blocking before him or am I missing something?

No he can punish my upblock with another low but smokes only *mid* is that f3, so if he wants to check me with his mid and launch me for mashing, he has to take a risk because of I block it I can launch him. So in that game I mashed and got hit by his f3 alot but because he was too scared to commit, I didn't get launched.@@johnnyridden619

I find kano the best for him because he needs those ambush assists in neutral and they can duck kano knives but smoke has a half screen overhead. I think frost assist is too risky, if you want them to stop upblocking, just do f3 alone and then react to them doing an upblock and punish them with f32

@@razorfgc Solid points. I’ll try out Kano! Thanks G!

Scorpion gives him big damage plus an overhead to his mix up. Overhead-overhead gets em all the time

Scorpions overhead is reactable so people can just react to it and full combo punish you.@@stratnum1

I’ve been using sektor for the F neutral shenanigans

I've actually been trying other kameos these past 2 days and Sektor helps his oki when he goes invisible to avoid getting armored by smoke starts struggling alot in neutral against zoners... which is ironic since hes supposed to be an anti zoner but his phase isnt that good at getting in cuz he gets smacked in the face.. I still think sareena is the best for him with how much damage she gives him and some form of neutral control.

@@razorfgc easy 400 with sar

I mean sub-zero is a decent alternative since he grants u projectile immunity and can also stun the opponent like sareena but his stun scales the damage alot more and his projectile immunity isnt as good as sareenas knives imo

​@@razorfgchave you tried cyrax?

​@@razorfgc he is also nice. he can combo out of a grab, or combo out of the full b234 string. the net is a big W also

It is tricky but you need to do the f1 sort of early where you hit them when theyre still really high in the air

I just practiced the timing a bunch, I input bf3 and then after a small delay i press back+RT