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@@konemseries12 Ever since they modded the glass lifts they’ve been so unreliable. Would be a lot better if KONE had done it - mixing and matching equipment never gets good results… Would one of them be the level 4 to 3 down one? The last couple of visits I’ve had it’s been making some loud screeching sounds every rotation or so as if a step roller is getting stuck / has squared and is dragging along…

@@EscalatorsAnywhere the 4 to 3 down was running, the 3 to 2 down and 2 to 1 down were both being sorted.

@@KLEF710 Sort of - well, these ones are… The normal RSK is the travelator equivalent of the RTK escalator. Some Sainsbury’s supermarkets had them etc… But, these ones are heavy duty grade, and were listed as ‘RSK-1000’. I found 6 inclined travelators here like this. But in other areas of the terminal, there were a number of flat travelators listed as ‘RS-HDLS ….’ so these would essentially be the inclined version of those. Of course the RT and RS Prefix comes from the German words RollTreppe (escalator) and RollSteig (Travelator). 🙂

​@@EscalatorsAnywhere So the RSK-1000 ones here are a custom built model based on the design of the RS-HDLS, unlike similar travelators at Gatwick South Terminal shuttle station and the Manchester Airport Skylink, which are the ordinary RS-HDLS type?

O&K had a strange way with names on their rarer products. If you look really closely at the handrail ends and the metal balustrade ends on these and the Gatwick shuttle ones, they’re near identical, just these ones are inclined. The Gatwick ones are listed as RSA-HD-140 (a reference to the width). The older (1990-early 95) flat ones here are listed as RS-HDLS and the late 1995/1996 ones are listed as RSV-HD… The Manchester Skylink ones were the same - 1996 listed as RSV-HD… types. However, totally different to the proper RSV travelators released in 1997 to match the RTV escalator design. Confusing stuff 😅 because they used all the old running gear but used the VarioTronic401 system computer. In 1997 they had a complete design change and all new ones built after this were given the proper OkaVario Drive etc and the more modern shape…

@@KLEF710 Not on that visit because the music was extremely loud in there and security were all over. I will return sometime… In the meantime I have so much to upload (if I uploaded everything now, I’d be on over 1000 videos 😅). Will find some more RT-HDLS’s for you in the mix and also I have some RS-HDLS and RSK-1000 travelators on the way (most very lightly modded by Kone). 🙂

@@KLEF710 When I went earlier this year they were original. The station is quite difficult to access without tickets but staff allowed me to film the ones on one of the 2 platforms. Will get round to uploading soon. 👍 There’s 8 of them (I filmed 4) and above them are 2 smaller RTV-HD-99Gs which anyone can ride…

@@KLEF710 I know they’re a favourite of yours - and for good reason! 🙂 Unfortunately there used to be more in a few places (Duivendrecht station a bit further along had 5 and also Rotterdam Blaak mainline station had 6) but Kone replaced all of them fairly recently. Such a shame to lose them. There is another one coming at metro station Zuid - one out of 2 was working, the other seems abandoned (but that’s the only other station in Amsterdam with one now). On one of the lines from Amstelveenseweg to Sloterdijk there are some RTV-HD-999 escalators (most are 999-G except one that’s a rarer -V with metal balustrades but different to the S)…

@@huwclements3862 I thought there were from when I’d been years ago - I remembered there being 4 and another floor but didn’t see them on the day. I was in a hurry so I didn’t properly check but it looks like the store may have unfortunately been downsized and had them taken out as the area round the escalators is different now…

They could have been Kone’s distributor to the Spanish market at the time I guess then. Most escalators and travelators in Spain are ThyssenKrupp and until this time, O&K and Kone products were very rare here… Macosa made their own escalators before too, they were actually pretty good 🙂

​@@EscalatorsAnywhereEven older KONE elevators in Spain are also very rare. The oldest KONE I've filmed so far is a high rise KONE MiniSpace in Gran Canaria. Shame there isn't enough information about KONE's history in the Spanish market. I've see a few photos of Macosa escalators online and for some reason they resemble a bit like O&K.

@@idl3k_elev That’s interesting! And yeah the presence or lack of skirt lights shouldn’t make the name change. It’s interesting because in England we were still seeing the older style too (like the gold ones that M&S in Cambridge has) until around 1990 so that type must have run alongside for a bit. But the first Niagara’s here were installed the late 80s too. M&S used them in a few new stores at the time as did other retailers and buildings. They are so common in Germany 🇩🇪 though, much more so than here in England. Would be great if you could post a link to this website sometime because I’d find it really interesting to see all the old books and brochures 👍

@@matthewhawkins3783 Nice. There are a few shorter ones in London too. I think the smallest ones in England are in the basement of Harrods, followed by the ones at the side entrance to Victoria Place (the shopping arcade joined to London Victoria station) 🙂

@@KLEF710 Sure is - those ones in Chelmsford were nice, I’d rode them years ago - the steel set at the back of the store between 0,1&2. They actually still ran really well when I went before. Sad to hear they are no more. They would’ve been distributed by Marryat Scott originally (that was the distributor for Rheinstahl Eggers Kehrhahn to the UK). 🙂 Also that Debenhams had a little 1990 RTK-B at the front for quick access to floor 1. That gone too?

​@@EscalatorsAnywhere There's only 1 up escalator in that store now so that one may still survive. I haven't been there though looking at photos it appears it's been replaced.

Yes sadly that has gone too.

I managed to document the old Debenhams store back in early 2020 before the first lockdown.

@@matthewhawkins3783 Not this one - there was another of this same type in PoundStretcher in Penzance which is now closed, but this one was in the East of England. This escalator is also out of use now, first all the steps were replaced with normal silver ones shortly after I filmed this because they had got rusty, then once the Covid period hit they abandoned maintenance on the escalator to save money and it’s now boarded up…

@@EscalatorsAnywhere such a shame

@@EscalatorsAnywhere I think the escalators I've filmed in Quer Passage shopping center in Kiel, Germany might've been an "intermediate" O&K type as some features that you mentioned were similar and they're from 1973-74. They had tiny O&K logo engraved on one of the handrail ends and an old fashioned direction light on the upper skirting. Not sure if they're still there or not, last time I was in Kiel was two years ago. Apart from that, the footbridge that goes between the shopping center and Holstenstraße used to have a set of three old 1970s Rheinstahl/Thyssen escalators based on old photos of Kiel that I found on the internet. They were removed in the 2010s and a pair of two ThyssenKrupp Tugela escalators were installed. Rheinstahl's 1960s escalator design was really beautiful, distinctive and almost look like art deco to me! Haven't been on one yet but I found one derelict Rheinstahl escalator from 1962 outside the cruise terminal of Bremerhaven. You can find the video on my channel. The same retro design was also adopted by American company Montgomery in the U.S. due to a licensing agreement between the two company at that time. Their 1970s type wasn't as beautiful as their 1960s type but still looks nice; the same design was later carried over to Thyssen after the acquisition and continued to be produced (with minor facelift, of course) until the introduction of Velino in the late 1990s.

@@idl3k_elev Nice, please send me a link to that and I’ll have a look to see if they’re the sort I was thinking of. 🙂

@@KLEF710 Yeah it was indeed. Moved to a bigger store here in about 2001 with 2 tall Kone RTV-T escalators - I uploaded them a couple of days ago too. 🙂

@@LL_elevators I filmed a couple but usually I don’t film lifts because I don’t like filming around other people and I also don’t upload videos where I can be seen (such as in reflective cabs etc). I do have a few more lift videos in general coming soon but I have a lot that I can’t upload due to mirrored / glass cabs. 🙂

@@EscalatorsAnywhere Ohh nice, yes understandable, some elevators do indeed have a lot of reflection... have you also been to Gare Magenta by any chance?

@@LL_elevators Yeah I went to Magenta (that’s the one under Gare du Nord from memory?). It’s a similar setup in terms of a lot of new Otis escalators too. Unfortunately a few were broken when I went but I have some videos 👍

@EscalatorsAnywhere Yes that one, do they still have old elevators there or are they all 5500's now?

@@LL_elevators The ones that I used were new Schindlers, but I didn’t use all the lifts throughout so I’m not sure 100% 🙂

@@KLEF710 Yes. They are horrendous those ones at New Street. Nearly half of them in the station were broken on my recent visit with some totally boarded up for major repairs. It was such a poor idea to use cheap products in such a high traffic environment - they were never going to cope. Any major infrastructure venue needs to be using one of the ‘Big 4’ for their escalators. The only way to solve it would now be to fully replace them with proper escalators because each repair they get, they’ll just break again. I remember reading an article shortly after they first came into use after the station’s total refurb saying they all had to be thoroughly inspected because the drive chains had cracked in a few of them. 😕 A heavy duty Kone, Otis, Schindler or TKE if properly maintained can take the strain. Generic stuff usually can’t…

@@hazmatpants Nice! I’m always open to suggestions and location info if you want to recommend some for me to film... O&K and Kone are my favourites but Otis, Schindler and TKE are also decent. I’m often travelling around so maybe I’d get to those places. 🙂

@@EscalatorsAnywhere I'm not very experienced with escalators but I do find them very fascinating

@@hazmatpants No worries. 🙂 If you have any questions about any, just ask and I might know the info. I’ve liked them from as early as I can remember.

@@chrisexplode It’s actually the Plymouth Roborough Road Extra. But so many of the stores look incredibly similar. Will have a look at that one if I pass Addlestone sometime. 🙂

@@konemseries12 It could be that. 🙂 I was determined to make a special detour to visit here to check the current lift setup so I did it on my way to see family in the South West. Was great to see the original levelling still working and hear those motor sounds! I did record a longer ride but they’re mirrored cabs, so I wanted a quick clip where I wasn’t in the picture I could then post here. It did take me back to the good days… I remember Green Lanes Mall Car Park in Barnstaple (3x 1990 lifts - 5 floors) and Dingles / HOF in Plymouth (2x 1989 lifts - 6 floors) having the same kind, with the panel edges in the same silver paint. All are unfortunately heavily modernised now…

@@EscalatorsAnywhere I have seen videos of both in the past. The Barnstaple ones looked to have received Lester controls with the original fixtures retained at first but then a much heavier mod followed

@@konemseries12 Yes, the Barnstaple ones were original til around 2011 - the panel top display faces were then changed in 2011 but the buttons and panel were retained. Then in 2014 they were heavily generically modded and everything was lost 😕

@@EscalatorsAnywhere 2014 was the year quite a few TMS lifts were replaced it seems. The Car Park 2 ones in Castle Mall could seriously still be fine today, Car Park 1 lifts were knackered though.

@@konemseries12 Definitely wasn’t a great year for lifts. All of those lifts could be running fine today still, even the CP1 lifts if they were left original. They only developed issues when they were modded to have the different COPs when they changed the floors from numbers to letters and tried to combine that all into the original TMS logic. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” definitely applies to things like that…

@@KLEF710 These are everywhere now; Madrid, Milan, here, they were even installing one at CDG in time for the Paris Olympics when I was there. They are not a quality product or built for heavy duty needs and I’ve seen them broken many times. With Heathrow I know the ones you mean - I used them instead of the transit last time I flew into T5B. They don’t get used really unless the transit isn’t operational so I guess they don’t need to be good. But I’m disappointed in their quality and particularly because I know TKE could do so much better if they wanted to. 🙂

@@KLEF710 You’re right. 🙂 That’s me being a butterfingers 😅

@@KLEF710 Yes, the 2nd one is a replacement. Kone replaced all of the original 1987 O&K travelators in the terminal in 2009/10 (except for one short one in departures that was just taken out and the pit was covered over with a different floor). Fortunately that meant they were still built in the Keighley, UK factory rather than overseas as Kone finished UK production in 2010 - so these are the last of a kind. 🙂 For some reason the travelators in the link from the South Terminal to the Shuttle Train to the North Terminal were retained even though they are more heavily used! They still operate perfectly to this day with only a light mod from KONE. The North Terminal ones were the same - they were only replaced to make it look more modern as they were still reliable…

@@steady_94 Nice. I haven’t been there yet - but will put that on the list of places to visit in future 👍

@@EscalatorsAnywhere Its just great as a day out but when you don't expect it, its certainly the coolest thing you'll see 😁 Its in my vlog, its 29 mins in ua-cam.com/video/JG65a6Xd-bA/v-deo.html

@@KLEF710 Exactly what I thought when I saw them too - they make the Elizabeth Line stations seem quite dull! I was hoping for some real striking, revolutionary architecture with the Elizabeth line like we saw with some of the JLE stations when that all opened, and was pretty underwhelmed. Would recommend going to Helsinki for sure, it’s a beautiful city through and through!

@@theaalopaalo It was such a nice surprise! 😅 In a couple of the quieter new stations I could see them installing even more new escalators too - at the opposite ends of the platforms. Also at Finnoo, above the really tall set, they were then installing a smaller set from ground level upto a higher ground floor which are probably in operation by now… The amount of lifts / elevators surprised me too and how well designed they were, so many fast Kone glass lifts and also some inclined ones at many stations. I will definitely return to Finland at some point. I loved it! 🙂