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Harman Kardon hk870 Power Amplifier Repairs (Ep. 233)
Let's get this one going again before I let it go.
FOR SALE
Some random reading for you - www.chemi-con.co.jp/products/relatedfiles/capacitor/catalog/al-precautioncp-e.pdf
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Відео

Pioneer SA-6700 Integrated Amplifier Repairs (Ep. 232)
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A old Pioneer amp came in DOA. Let's fix it and enjoy it once again. Batwing bonanza.
NAD 3150 Integrated Amplifier Repairs (Ep. 231)
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Another basket case NAD that needed a lot of work to sing again
Hitachi SR-2004 Receiver Restoration ( Ep. 230)
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Hitachi's entry into the monster receiver wars.
Sears 28666 8-Track Player Repairs (Ep. 229)
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Some old tape technology that nobody uses anymore
Mid-Week Treat - Mystery Goodies from an Estate
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Some vintage goodies Inquire if interested
Marantz 2216 Receiver Repairs (Ep. 228)
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This Marantz was brought to me by a client because it sounds terrible. Let's see if we can improve it's sound quality
Harman Kardon hk880 Vxi Receiver Repairs (Ep. 227)
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A early HK A/V receiver on the bench for a full restore
Pioneer SX-440 Receiver Service (Ep. 226)
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A light duty shelf queen get new lamps and caps.
Harman Kardon HK1500 Cassette Deck Repairs (Ep. 225)
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A late 70's HK deck needs some work
Sony ST-636 FM/AM Program Tuner (Ep. 224)
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Another very interesting design from the overstaffed R&D team at Sony. Is it digital or analog? We're just as confused as the developers apparently.
JVC A-X7 Integrated Amplifier (Ep. 223)
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Some JVC goodness
Sony TC-K80II Cassette Deck Repairs (Ep. 222)
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A high end Sony cassette deck get gets a second chance to impress us all.
Harman Kardon 330c Receiver Know your ABCs Part 3 (Ep. 221)
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In this last part we look at the iconic 330c receiver
Harman Kardon 330B Receiver Know your ABCs Part 2 (Ep. 220)
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Harman Kardon 330B Receiver Know your ABCs Part 2 (Ep. 220)
Harman Kardon 330A Receiver Know your ABCs Part 1 (Ep. 219)
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Harman Kardon 330A Receiver Know your ABCs Part 1 (Ep. 219)
AIWA TP-724 Tape Recorder Repairs (Ep. 218)
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AIWA TP-724 Tape Recorder Repairs (Ep. 218)
Sony TC-238 8-Track Recorder (Ep. 217)
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Sony TC-238 8-Track Recorder (Ep. 217)
Kenwood GE-9X Equalizer (Ep. 216)
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Kenwood GE-9X Equalizer (Ep. 216)
Yamaha CR-820 Receiver Restore (Ep. 215)
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Yamaha CR-820 Receiver Restore (Ep. 215)
Sony ICF-9740W Radio Repairs (Ep. 214)
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Sony ICF-9740W Radio Repairs (Ep. 214)
Harman Kardon hk350i Receiver (Ep. 213)
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Harman Kardon hk350i Receiver (Ep. 213)
Hafler DH110 Preamp Repair (Ep. 212)
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Hafler DH110 Preamp Repair (Ep. 212)
DUAL CS 508 Turntable Test - Au Pairs, Headache For Michelle (1982)
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DUAL CS 508 Turntable Test - Au Pairs, Headache For Michelle (1982)
Kenwood KT-57 Tuner (Ep. 211)
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Kenwood KT-57 Tuner (Ep. 211)
Harman Kardon hk495i Receiver Repair Parts 2 and 3 (Ep. 210)
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Harman Kardon hk495i Receiver Repair Parts 2 and 3 (Ep. 210)
JVC JA-S71 Amplifier Repair (Ep. 209)
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JVC JA-S71 Amplifier Repair (Ep. 209)
Realistic STA-2250 Receiver (Ep. 208)
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Realistic STA-2250 Receiver (Ep. 208)
ROTEL RX-802 Receiver Restoration (Ep. 207)
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ROTEL RX-802 Receiver Restoration (Ep. 207)

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @tonec3663
    @tonec3663 3 години тому

    I don't believe that the blown meter lamps that you pulled out were original; they were covered with green Mylar sleeving that would typically be on AKAI lamps (and on a few other makes but not Pioneer). It gives a nice subtle green glow. I wish that I could find a source for purchasing some stock but I've never been able to find it.

    • @TrevorsBench
      @TrevorsBench Годину тому

      You may be right. Blue or green filament tinted lamps are near impossible to find. One can replicate the colour with LEDs and colour film and lots of experimentation. One of my viewers, Mark in Wisconsin, turned me on to LED filament lamps that can replicate the light pretty close. I found them on Aliexpress, search for "COB LED Filament"

  • @saurio11
    @saurio11 3 години тому

    Hola que transistor tr output de salida tiene este amplificador?

  • @alexismethenitis
    @alexismethenitis День тому

    Great work! I would have made an offer but the shipping would kill me!! All the best,

  • @darlenelay2765
    @darlenelay2765 День тому

    How much do you think he can get for that?

  • @ancienttech4636
    @ancienttech4636 День тому

    If I remember correctly, you will get maximum heat dissipation in the output transistors on an analog amp at about 40% of rated output, because at that point, you have the highest product of current and voltage across the transistors. It should really cook then.

  • @GTRxMan
    @GTRxMan День тому

    Harmon Kardon used to market their amps (even the smaller ones) as having high current capacity which would probably account for the number of caps in the circuit design.

    • @TrevorsBench
      @TrevorsBench 9 годин тому

      This amp is likely 4 ohm stable. I never checked at 4 ohms but it's built for the extra current

  • @robertdavis5714
    @robertdavis5714 День тому

    Nice to see you back, this is a interesting specimen. 1983-1986............Not HK's best years for QC. Added a film cap to every service cap, hmmmmmmmmmm. Have every right to complain about that 1/2 ass white compound Goop. Never ever seen that light Blue stuff you purchased, very $$$$$$$$ Hell yes, those are big holes and little plastic support. Thanks for pointing out the thickness of the legs on those Burgundy colored Caps.

  • @user-yn8mz5bf9y
    @user-yn8mz5bf9y День тому

    I like eating the thermal paste ! Reported you to Dig-Key LOL Without speaker protection you risk getting DC at your speakers,/ This could have been the cause of the transistors blowing as they took out the speaker (s) The shipping cost to the US makes it kind of problem

  • @ianc4901
    @ianc4901 День тому

    From where I'm sitting the problem with the transistors not sitting flat on the heatsink is due to the heatsink not being flat. There are signs that the heatsink is very slightly distorted, I would have been tempted to try to correct that so you don't need so much heatsink compound to fill the gap. It's amazing that it lasted long enough to dry out the old compound, those transistors must have been very robust but not indestructible !

    • @TrevorsBench
      @TrevorsBench 8 годин тому

      The aluminum extrusion was flat. The old transistors had a slight dish to them which prevented them from making good contact. Not sure why or how they got dished

  • @mixolydian2010
    @mixolydian2010 День тому

    Thanks Trevor enjoyed the video, all the best

  • @user-yn8mz5bf9y
    @user-yn8mz5bf9y День тому

    You can't replace those output transistors, , you are going to just gerry-rig the unit to work correctly which in my opinion is not fixing it correctly The manufacture never intended for that unit to work in 50 years , theyr knew SMD would replace hold through components I worked in electronic manufacturing years ago, and all that electronics is 100 percent oblate by today's standards Why did you choose that transistor as a replacement ? This is constructive criticism

    • @nicodenhaak3961
      @nicodenhaak3961 День тому

      Off course this all depends on the parameters of the replaced transistors. Lot's of older n.l.a transistors have very good modern replacements. If someone does their homework right, there is really no problem in doing so.

    • @stefanegger
      @stefanegger 23 години тому

      @@nicodenhaak3961 The original trasistor is still made, I mean the ONsemi company still makes the technically same identically spec to the original ones, not sure why he used other ones and what advantage that would have. I dont understand why he does not replace the resistors that are known to fail, the unit will fail very soon and will take some more transistors out with the next defect. Then you can start from scratch.

    • @nicodenhaak3961
      @nicodenhaak3961 11 годин тому

      @@stefanegger As i understand it, he checked the resistors, and they where in factoryspec. HK units are great, but not always easy to get right.

    • @TrevorsBench
      @TrevorsBench 8 годин тому

      I picked those transistors because they are the best fit for this application. Since when do people call substituting transistors 'jerry-rigging"?

    • @user-yn8mz5bf9y
      @user-yn8mz5bf9y 7 годин тому

      @@TrevorsBench Jerry Rigging because the OEM choose that transistor types for a reason as the final stage I know about transistor substation their was a lot of books in the eighties about cross referencing But 40 0r 50 years later that kind of thing is obsolete because the semiconductor manufactures discontinued so many types making it much harder to cross reference.

  • @alainblazit9504
    @alainblazit9504 День тому

    I used highest thermal conductivity compound with Peltier coolers. It is very effective, but after e while it was impossible do remove coolers from the heat dissipator. The ceramic in the compound was like cement. I had to break the coolers.

    • @TrevorsBench
      @TrevorsBench 9 годин тому

      It was probably thermal adhesive. You can buy paste that will set up and harden with heat

  • @stefanegger
    @stefanegger День тому

    Bad work this time, very bad. You did not change any of the resistors on the vertical board??? I saw so many broken, there is literature and articles about them over the whole internet. I just switched it on for testing a few times and they blew, blew some transistors nearby. This amp could have also been thrown in the bin, if you use it like that, it will kill itself anyway, waste of time for a bad job that will maybe hold a few more months. Sad for the unit, I like those units, but this is not a lasting repair, I would not suggest ANYONE to buy this or run it like this. This is a receipe for desaster, the knowledge to work on 870 is clearly not there. And the fuse cover must be spread apart, and not pushed together, dont ask me how I know but I tried a bit too hard the wrong way, very flimsy board that is. Also the instruction is not very good, because the four metal covers dont fit with the bigger transistors that he used, so not sure if he left them out or bent them or what, not very clear video and unclear in many places. He said in the end he did not do it, how can you make an instruction video where half of the work is not done. Sad, could have been a proper video for 870 repair and maintenance, the crusty paste is something I also came accross, but if you go after that video, you can leave it as it is anyway, will not make any difference on the result, the 870 will fry itself and that was it. Then it is better not invest work and let it die than to make a bad job and let it die anyway. No care taken here.

    • @Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez
      @Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez День тому

      Cry a bit more. Boo hoo 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • @TrevorsBench
      @TrevorsBench 9 годин тому

      Help me out here. I'm trying to understand why you would want to trash my work or this amp. Is it to prevent a possible sale? Are you trying to provide some kind of service for the other viewers?

  • @yoeribolderdijk1257
    @yoeribolderdijk1257 День тому

    Never saw that style of transistors before.

  • @paulb4661
    @paulb4661 День тому

    Another good design assembled poorly. Will make someone happy now. I actually bake sinks with transistors installed at 100°C in the oven and torque them down while still hot, compounds get runny and fill the gaps, while length contraction ensures they stay tight at high operating temperature. Bit tricky, but works great, especially with class A and high bias AB fet outputs.

  • @Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez
    @Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez День тому

    Always loved the look of the plain box style amps.

  • @zulumax1
    @zulumax1 День тому

    When I saw the two sets of big capacitors I was thinking it might be class G bias with a twin split power supply rail. I know Kenwood, Carver, and Hitachi did those designs. Have to see if Hifiengine has a schematic on this amp, would like to see the roadmap on this one. The emitter resistors may have gone up in value due to the heat and abuse, that might account for the drop in wattage. Then again, it may just be the way it is. Thanks for the ride along on this one.

    • @TrevorsBench
      @TrevorsBench 8 годин тому

      The emitter resistors all checked fine. They get tested because of the shorted transistors.

  • @randyr.parker2698
    @randyr.parker2698 День тому

    Great video! It was nice that there were some good replacement transistors available. Should give someone lots of years of service now.

  • @MONKE12388
    @MONKE12388 День тому

    Where did you buy the transistors from?

  • @garysurovec
    @garysurovec День тому

    I believe a lot of the hk stuff in that era used direct coupled low negative feedback stages. So, the only limiting factor for frequency would be the transistors chosen for each stage. Some of them even had ultra wideband printed right on the front.

  • @user-yn8mz5bf9y
    @user-yn8mz5bf9y День тому

    What the heck happened last Friday I was worried about you eh !

  • @davidquinn1661
    @davidquinn1661 2 дні тому

    hi would you know where i could get the switch that you replaced

  • @davidquinn2190
    @davidquinn2190 2 дні тому

    Just wondering, were you can buy the stop and start switch.

  • @ericzerkle8486
    @ericzerkle8486 2 дні тому

    Gloves, really? 😅😂

  • @29golgot
    @29golgot 3 дні тому

    Hello, great video 👍I have the same amp to repair for my rock-ola 474 juckebox do you have the list with the values ​​of the capacitors that you have changed it will help me a lot Thank you

  • @melissaamos2443
    @melissaamos2443 3 дні тому

    We called those round things, records. 😊 great video. Thanks!

  • @clarktent
    @clarktent 3 дні тому

    Really enjoying this content! thanks

  • @universalhead
    @universalhead 4 дні тому

    Very interesting and amazing repair. This video is of special interest account I have this (SA)-6700. It looks mostly original other than the led upgrade, and the main caps have been changed to larger Elna 100v 15000 uf caps. What are the advantages of this , and is it even safe? Looks like it has all the Nippon Chem-con.

  • @brianberthold3118
    @brianberthold3118 5 днів тому

    good god .. honestly it like watching a monkey try to type on a typewriter

  • @rotaxtwin
    @rotaxtwin 6 днів тому

    I'm not sold on the replacement LEDs for the most part for the same reasons you quote. The AC/DC issue, the point source, the colour of the light... I'd much rather have new incandescents myself.

  • @rtpfixit
    @rtpfixit 7 днів тому

    We have the same workbench. I use a grey doormat as a work surface too! Also the little green ruler mats!

  • @batmandestroys1978
    @batmandestroys1978 7 днів тому

    Canon printers are junk!

  • @mark902
    @mark902 8 днів тому

    Sony best stuff was really good stuff. They spared bo expense back in the day. I have the k75 from this series. It's the three head, dual capstan, with tone assisted record calibration. No direct drive though, and with led meters instead of the lcd. It really well made stuff.

  • @JoaoSilva-bc7jc
    @JoaoSilva-bc7jc 10 днів тому

    Ah Sears, many things that Sears had was built in Sanyo factories ( these in south corea) at least the cheap ones . But at the same time they build many quality things ,as many JVC things , like camcorders , VCRS (vhs)......believe me , many panasonic ( ex NATIONAL in the first times)Vcrs share things with Sanyo . And some Sanyo VCRs where build with more quality and image than Sony , i know because i had two 4 heads stereo nicam VCRs ( vhs) one sanyo a one sony , and sanyo had more build quality than Sony that had many plastic gears and mechanics sounded louder, but both had good image quality .There where in those times a family relationship between those two brands. The Sanyo was the poor Panasonic (technics) parent, but they build some cheap and with some quality degree audio things that sounded good!

  • @juansabinonava7047
    @juansabinonava7047 10 днів тому

    Hola mister trevors bench. Lo felicito por muy buen video y también pedirle de favor que si tiene el PDF del manual de servicio me lo pudiera pasar . gracias

  • @thethreehuskigos
    @thethreehuskigos 11 днів тому

    What if it does go into protect? Mine clicks multiple times as i turn it on. I can only get music from zone 2..... not the other speaker ports. Please help.

  • @killertimes
    @killertimes 11 днів тому

    Whatever happened to that Citation 12?

    • @TrevorsBench
      @TrevorsBench 11 днів тому

      Waiting for it's turn on the bench

  • @papabear1417
    @papabear1417 12 днів тому

    The mass turntable idea comes from when the motors weren't electronically controlled. It's a moot point now. There is no need.

  • @mtkseattle
    @mtkseattle 12 днів тому

    So I believe I had this amp,bought it in the late 70's, used it till it went out in the late 80's. I thought I remembered it rated at 50 wps and also having a start up breaker that took like 5 seconds till it would click and let sound on. I didn't see that with yours here. Great video and thanks.

  • @km4hr
    @km4hr 13 днів тому

    Go NADs!

  • @andredamian5877
    @andredamian5877 14 днів тому

    Is there any difference betwenn models bdv e2100 and hdb e2100?

  • @KC2QMA
    @KC2QMA 14 днів тому

    A rare Xerox branded custom Fluke meter made for Xerox, So cool!

  • @universalhead
    @universalhead 14 днів тому

    That amp is a beast for 40 a side.

  • @RedSinter
    @RedSinter 15 днів тому

    Too bad they didn't include high pass filtering. Maybe the next models do. Well, replacing the fuse as I am sure you know Trevor that doesn't negate the issue with why. 😂 See these caps...you know what I 'm thinking.... So, Trevor I'm going to assume you'll rectify the bare wire wrapped with tape etc. You, may, as we aren't at the end yet but to err on the side of caution I'd replace the drive transistors.

  • @808v1
    @808v1 15 днів тому

    I have the 6500 which I have been using for about 6 months or so and now plan on refreshing - caps etc., so this should be an interesting watch. Thx for video!

  • @Caasimolar
    @Caasimolar 15 днів тому

    I have this amp and it's not working at all. It has power but I get no signal coming through. So far I only had a quick look at it, however, so I will finish watching this clip and see if it is of use in my case.

  • @alainblazit9504
    @alainblazit9504 15 днів тому

    Very good output transistors, they resist the torch!

  • @mikecampbell5856
    @mikecampbell5856 15 днів тому

    I own every BOC CD. I used to record them on my Harman Kardon CD 291 cassette deck. People couldn't tell the difference between the tapes and the CDs in my home system. It was that good.

  • @mikecampbell5856
    @mikecampbell5856 15 днів тому

    Wow Trevor, quite a battle. This project would have ended with me practicing my shot putting skills! LOL

  • @user-yn8mz5bf9y
    @user-yn8mz5bf9y 15 днів тому

    Another chnange all the capacitor video gerry-rig all the semiconductor because you can't get the orginal parts