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@@allenb6471 also worth using IP67 rated bags as counter floats for extra stability

@@pieterdijkstra9018 I will unless I find a better solo technique

Can you post a video as it sounds interesting??

Have you actually used this siphon bailer yet? To me, it sounds dubious. You could only siphon water out of a boat if the level of that water is higher than the water upon which the boat is floating. In order for the water in the boat to be higher than the outside water, the hull material itself (not its displacement) would have to provide enough buoyancy to float the boat, the water, and the paddler higher than water level. I've never seen a hull anywhere near that buoyant. It would work on shore, though- or am I missing something?

@@abowhand I am unsure what you mean?

@@laulago3771 P8 aka jackpot in Derbyshire UK

@@jeffreyking3807 you are welcome

@@johnthornley6168 easier is better sir

@@ralforlich1730 thanks

Thanks for the kind words. The only way kit carried assists floatation when the boat is full of water is if the equipment itself is tied down tight in the boat. Otherwise it floats up on the inside upon the water. However I have devised ways of the equipment bags to assist with emptying techniques.

I’m not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate please?

@@outdoorinstruction I'm thinking that an air bag would be useful for the boater to climb onto the canoe - so the boater would be less likely to to the canoe over when he is getting back in.

You can use your equipment bags for that and to counter the boat from being pushed edge ways into the water as you get back in

@@outdoorinstruction Thank you. I think that's a good idea.

Now…. That is an interesting question. Do let me know if you get an answer.

@@outdoorinstruction First I need my own canoe 😂

@@CristiNeagu 😂 I only have one….

Glad it’s been useful

You are most welcome and thanks for the kind words

Highly unlikely the boat will sink as almost all canoes have inherent buoyancy in the plastics. However rescue is much much harder without added flotation. There are two types of paddlers, ones that have fallen in and ones that will fall in.

Wear a helmet and go play on soft grass till it’s smooth

You are welcome

Hi I am not sure of the brand or size as I’m based in the UK. However I’m using 8mm floating rope from any good water sports shop and retailer.

Warmbac caving knee pads with Velcro

Thankyou !

Glad it helped

There’s lots of variables in this question! In short you are a free human being to do as you please, however I would consider the issues of things going wrong or getting injured. Everyone eventually falls out of a canoe when poling, so wear a helmet, where a BA / PFD, know how to re enter the boat and perform self rescue. You’d be wise to be with others in case of an issue. I can’t comment on the river or the boat but I’d definitely learn on simple waters first and build up.

I actually have bow and stern lines on white water. But if I had to choose I’d go for bow as I can see the line on the deck and that it’s not getting tangle. I’ve been coaching advanced white water this week and the swimmers often came up in all manner of places around their boats so it’s not possible to predict where’s safest to mount a line

Glad it’s a help. I would recommend some training for both safety and performance. Have fun

They won’t be as buoyant and neither will have the capacity to keep the gunnels above the water when sat in afloat and filled. Both serve assist access and stop people being trapped underneath with no air

@@outdoorinstruction I was just curious as to whether the 32' bags were any better than 32" blocks .

@@p.istaker8862 slightly more floatation less rugged. Blocks are great for centres doing simple trips. Bags are better for paddlers and the more air the better.

I’ve used 2mm climbing accessories cordage here, it’s high quality thread. I used 3mm on my white water paddle. My instincts say leather would not take the physical abuse in water and would degrade quickly. But it would not hurt to try.

I’m not sure what other material would work, but it doesn’t hurt to try them out.

@@outdoorinstruction you could probably use rawhide for example, let it dry and put some kind of protective coating on.

I’m definitely not an expert in such things. However I’d give it a go, if it doesn’t work it can easily be snipped off and a different cord used. Go for it and let me know!

@@outdoorinstruction I don't personally need it right now, and was just kind of thinking of other materials .. But if I can successfully finish my very first BB Canoe I might try it.

Thanks for your comments. There’s lots of ways of popping rope on your boats and I have a simple philosophy of 1 is it safe 2 does it work. Using a shortened swim line via a clove hitch sounds fine for open water painters to me. I’d not use that system on a river as the swim line would be difficult to deploy. But as long as you remember to revert to full lines it should be fine. I personally prefer having both painters and swim lines on rivers.

@outdoorinstruction Thanks for the feedback. I'm currently watching your other video, "using painters to improvise a swim bag attachment." I'll probably do this instead. After I gain more experience, I can decide what best works for me.

@@REXpeditions take a look at using painters on open water and using them to assist as well. The right length makes all the difference. I have a few ideas around lines and painters to play with, take a look and play with ideas

Yep I appreciate it can be a little windy. At least it’s 100% real and on expedition 😊A friend has gifted me a mic…

Great question. It would depend on the direction of the wind and my direction or travel then thinking about the trim of the boats and also the power of the paddlers being matched. So not a straight answer unfortunately. I would use the wind to help both my travel and correction.

Yup that’s the technique in a nutshell

They do indeed. We can still call the boats “Canoes” though. I hope the video shows we don’t need fully bagged boats just thoughtfully bags ones

Thank for the kind words. I carry two swim lines as they are often useful in other situations eg tracking and rescues.

@outdoorinstruction that's great thank you, so is that one on the front and the other on the back? And a swimline to hand for rescues?

@@mattbee7885 yep. I have the two 10mm 1000kg lines mounted in bags at bow and stern. I also carry a smaller slimmer throw line on a belt (so it’s always with me) to put into action if needed.

Thanks for the kind words

I used to do that method too, this is easier on any boat. Unfortunately we do not use many Kevlar boats in the Uk, they don’t withstand the types of river. I was asked to test a composite boat on a very used piece of river and it cracked on day one.

@@outdoorinstruction There are many composite canoes being built in Canada and the U.S. that are designed for whitewater. IXP, Tuff Stuff (innegra/basalt), kevlar/innegra are used now because royalex is no longer available. Plus nobody wants an 80 pound canoe anymore. However, you are right. Lightweight kevlar models are not suitable for running rocky rivers. I've owned two kevlar models and they surprisingly can take quite a bit of abuse. But yes a full on crash with a boulder will not end well.

@@yooperventures2830 I’ve also been told that canoes in the Uk are very expensive compared to North America… £1700 min… so we tend to buy one boat, make it tough and do everything with it. Maybe one day I’ll get a specialist light weight boat

It’s almost the same just one tiny difference

@@outdoorinstruction which is?

@@nathanburke8387 I simply carabiner the bag to a gear loop as well as have a line. I’ll sort a video as it needs explaining.

@@outdoorinstruction Awesome, really really love the content!

@@nathanburke8387 many thanks I wish I had time to do more

This should be useful ua-cam.com/video/qv0KBsP5bfo/v-deo.htmlsi=a0TqD5DOWi-bZMN3

Pack it in the air bag. 😂

Thank you

I like the use of the word surly !!

@outdoorinstruction is that the correct word I've got dyslexia And word blindness ( AVPD - Audio/ visual processing disorder) So can't actually "see" what I'm writing 99% of the time. ( think colour blindness but in what I hear and what I say and see gets mixed up.. But I'm always open For good folks to Politely correct me..

That’s a really good example, I would be digging into what they mean by uncomfortable. Because if they felt objectively in danger, then that’s a definite problem. if they felt uncomfortable due to stretching their ski technique, and having to adapt to the conditions that could be an optimum learning experience. But if we’re training trainees part of that is getting people to ask questions..

@outdoorinstruction The greatest fear of all Is the unknown . If we cannot ID identify something. We cannot qualify it As pertentally Friend or foe. So we ask one to. Advance to be recognised We should apply the Skill/ will matrix. It's also about the coaches/ instructors Building up a 100000% trusted relationship with their pupils A healthy strong relationship is built on 3 things.. TRUST HONESTLY RESPECT Take 1 away and it all fails. without honesty, there can be no trust nor respect Without respect there can be no trust nor honesty Without trust there can be no respect nor honesty. The "triangle" collapses.. I've studied human psychology..

Possibly Because The trainees Expected the coach to not deliberately take/ put them into a position of danger 8n the first place. We as pupils expect coaches to be able to carry out what their qualifications say they should be able to do. Act professional and abide by codes of conduct at all times.. Lead by example.. I've spoken up about negative Experiences I've encountered.. I'm waiting to see Who will listen to me If not, then it completely Goes against everything, that we are told to do.... Reach out Speak up..

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