Genius! Now almost 70 and although I used to just flip the canoe overhead the traditional way, this will make lifting a canoe overhead much easier for me. My back and my muscles thank you for sharing!
Me too! ❤ I've always grabbed the rails at either end, but grabbing the seat and using it as a head rest might prove to be my next evolutionary moment.
For every tandem canoe that's built with a center carry thwart, its manufacturer ought to print these instructions and/or print this link along with the boat's bill of sale paperwork. Maybe even apply an adhesive instruction sticker somewhere on the inboard side of the boat's hull for rapid reference by the paddler. Because this technique WORKS EASY.
So much easier than the traditional technique performed at the center of the boat. The small twist required is only with the weight at the end of the boat, as opposed to the full weight of the boat. I have also struggled with starting at the back of the boat and it flipping around, although I've always lowered it this way...one thing I actually figured out for myself in life lol. With the center method, even at 6'2" I have trouble even reaching the far gunnel of the boat, let alone the confidence to flip my 80 lb boat without hurting myself further (long-term back and neck issues). Great video, 👍
I'm fairly certain I can pick up my new canoe the traditional way, but I'm somewhat hesitant. Fear is half the battle. However this easier method is brilliant. Tried it a couple of times and feel more comfortable I won't injure my back. Thanks!
Thank you so much for this instruction. I was preparing to sell one of my canoe (78 pounds 38 year old Royalex Mad River Freedom - beautiful boat) because I had a difficult time lifting it the traditional way at the yolk during my last use. I'll definitely practice this alternative method.
I’ve been canoeing all my life and have never seen this technique, I love it. I’m now 61, and 4 months ago I had bicep and rotator cuff surgery and I just had my second back surgery 4 days ago (hence I’m watching a lot of UA-cam videos recouping), but I am going to switch to this as soon as I can get back out on the water. Many thanks! Wish you did more canoeing videos, I have learned a lot from your flotation video and the painter video🙏👍
I learned to centre flip on some heavy ass esquif canyons so I feel that learning with heavy canoes has made it a lot easier to know how a boat will react to your motion since the weight kind of tells you how the boat wants to move. Helped me figure out the technique cuz I’d have to go all the way with it or it’d fall on me lol
good vid. I'm very capable of doing it the traditional way, but lifting it onto my thighs and lifting it overhead, BUT... I'm not getting any younger, so this looks like a decent technique. thanks
i have to commend you sir. i have an 17ft 80-lbs'er that needs to be solo loaded on a toyota sienna van. after watching your jiu-jitsu like canoe roll and hand walk.....i now can get the front 'beak' on my luggage rack from the side and simple slide it on top. i utilize fulcrum points and center gravity techniques to complete task. the only mild strain is the roll you show which lasts 15sec. i'll be putting an instruct vid together soon and crediting this roll technique to your chan
Where this has a disadvantage, is on canoes with taller 'beaks' 'axe heads', as you need to overcome the point. Lake canoes or straighter topped canoes as his work well on the rollover
@@outdoorinstruction i can use your tech on a low beaked but heavy grumman no prob. But my lighter oldtown Tripper is difficult to get that roll over the beak....even tho 10lbs lighter. They both suck for lap-shelf tech tho
Brilliant! Now I am struggling to understand why the traditional method (center flip) is still used by all those youtubers from Canada and the US as this is so much easier. Thanks for sharing!
Center flip is exact same technique and motions, but you do it from the portage yoke. This means you're hefting the entire boat in one go vs just one end. So the traditional center flip requires more strength and balance.
@@spasecookee i disagree that they are the same basic technique. the completely diff. the trad center yoke requires spinning an entire boatr while balacing its wt with yours. with this new tech, you are creating a 3 point stance 2 legs and front beak. you are esstentially holding the same wt but in a much more stable stance. plus you have the ability to pivot canoe on the beak axis to go from a 90degree agle to say 45dregee angle to vehicle for loading. trad method has you standing in for portage for everything
The center flip method doesn't put the ends on the ground. As those are the parts of the canoe most susceptible to rot, keeping them out of harm's way might be a good idea. If your canoe has plastic decks and spares are available, just dig holes with it and save your back.
Most lightweight kevlar canoes can be flipped right up to your shoulders at the yoke. I would only use the technique you demonstrated with a heavy canoe.
I used to do that method too, this is easier on any boat. Unfortunately we do not use many Kevlar boats in the Uk, they don’t withstand the types of river. I was asked to test a composite boat on a very used piece of river and it cracked on day one.
@@outdoorinstruction There are many composite canoes being built in Canada and the U.S. that are designed for whitewater. IXP, Tuff Stuff (innegra/basalt), kevlar/innegra are used now because royalex is no longer available. Plus nobody wants an 80 pound canoe anymore. However, you are right. Lightweight kevlar models are not suitable for running rocky rivers. I've owned two kevlar models and they surprisingly can take quite a bit of abuse. But yes a full on crash with a boulder will not end well.
@@yooperventures2830 I’ve also been told that canoes in the Uk are very expensive compared to North America… £1700 min… so we tend to buy one boat, make it tough and do everything with it. Maybe one day I’ll get a specialist light weight boat
Thank you for this I never had trouble before with my light weight canoe. But I just got a new 17 foot that with mods is 110 120lbs love the thing but with just me and my two kids I was getting concerned about how the heck I was going to get this thing over my head.
Do you recommend a yoke even for short carries to the car? For longer portage I would probably just use a cart or have someone help me. I have a small composite canoe but because of my smaller size it's difficult to balance on my shoulders
I would definitely recommend a yoke for any solo carries, preferably a deep dish yolk to spread the load. Additionally yoke pads or a good idea particularly for people of a smaller frame, the pads can be purchased and stuffed into your day bag for use when necessary. For portages over a few hundred metres a trolley is a very wise move.
That is easy, and logical...but if your lower back is really bad, not good. At my age--bad back, I do this: back portage vehicle to the canoe, which is upside down. Chin up--which keeps back straight, I lift one end only, which is not much weight, arms to press it up and get under it, back up to the vehicle and set one end down on the rack. Go to the back, pick that end up and slide it on.
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Genius! Now almost 70 and although I used to just flip the canoe overhead the traditional way, this will make lifting a canoe overhead much easier for me. My back and my muscles thank you for sharing!
You are most welcome and thanks for the kind words
Just a shout out. Thanks so much. 65 just retired baby canoe newbie. So so so much easier.
@@jeffreyking3807 you are welcome
I gave a thumbs up for your enthusiasm! 8^) I'll try it on my scanoe in a bit. Thanks for sharing!
Me too! ❤ I've always grabbed the rails at either end, but grabbing the seat and using it as a head rest might prove to be my next evolutionary moment.
Wear a helmet and go play on soft grass till it’s smooth
For every tandem canoe that's built with a center carry thwart, its manufacturer ought to print these instructions and/or print this link along with the boat's bill of sale paperwork. Maybe even apply an adhesive instruction sticker somewhere on the inboard side of the boat's hull for rapid reference by the paddler. Because this technique WORKS EASY.
thanks for the feed back
So much easier than the traditional technique performed at the center of the boat. The small twist required is only with the weight at the end of the boat, as opposed to the full weight of the boat. I have also struggled with starting at the back of the boat and it flipping around, although I've always lowered it this way...one thing I actually figured out for myself in life lol.
With the center method, even at 6'2" I have trouble even reaching the far gunnel of the boat, let alone the confidence to flip my 80 lb boat without hurting myself further (long-term back and neck issues). Great video, 👍
I'm fairly certain I can pick up my new canoe the traditional way, but I'm somewhat hesitant. Fear is half the battle. However this easier method is brilliant. Tried it a couple of times and feel more comfortable I won't injure my back. Thanks!
Thank you so much for this instruction. I was preparing to sell one of my canoe (78 pounds 38 year old Royalex Mad River Freedom - beautiful boat) because I had a difficult time lifting it the traditional way at the yolk during my last use. I'll definitely practice this alternative method.
Wonderful news. Glad to have helped
I’ve been canoeing all my life and have never seen this technique, I love it. I’m now 61, and 4 months ago I had bicep and rotator cuff surgery and I just had my second back surgery 4 days ago (hence I’m watching a lot of UA-cam videos recouping), but I am going to switch to this as soon as I can get back out on the water. Many thanks! Wish you did more canoeing videos, I have learned a lot from your flotation video and the painter video🙏👍
glad they are useful
This just changed my life! Thank you sir!😁👍
Glad it helped
Thank you my Old Town 133 canoe is comes in at 78 pounds I’ve been struggling with it. I will definitely give this a try.
Cheers 🇺🇸
a 13footer weighing 78lbs??? is it the concrete model? my OT Tripper 17'2 wts 80lbs
Brilliant! Been struggling with this! So easy I feel stupid that I haven't worked it out lol.
Nice! Thanks for sharing! Cheers from Ontario, Canada
Just tried it.. Wow.. Before I twisted so many times, the yoke landing hard on my neck.. Game changer for and older guy like me. 💪😁👍
That was great little technique, thank you
This is brilliant! On a white water canoe course and the canoes are pretty heavy. I’m trying this tomorrow.
this technique is more effective at using momentum to help lift the boat but also engages more leg muscles to lift
Yup that’s the technique in a nutshell
I learned to centre flip on some heavy ass esquif canyons so I feel that learning with heavy canoes has made it a lot easier to know how a boat will react to your motion since the weight kind of tells you how the boat wants to move. Helped me figure out the technique cuz I’d have to go all the way with it or it’d fall on me lol
Thank you very much! The struggle has been real!
Really pleased I have seen this thank you!!
good vid. I'm very capable of doing it the traditional way, but lifting it onto my thighs and lifting it overhead, BUT... I'm not getting any younger, so this looks like a decent technique. thanks
@@johnthornley6168 easier is better sir
Very clever idea!
This is the beauty of youtube..Sharing. Thank you !
i have to commend you sir. i have an 17ft 80-lbs'er that needs to be solo loaded on a toyota sienna van. after watching your jiu-jitsu like canoe roll and hand walk.....i now can get the front 'beak' on my luggage rack from the side and simple slide it on top. i utilize fulcrum points and center gravity techniques to complete task. the only mild strain is the roll you show which lasts 15sec. i'll be putting an instruct vid together soon and crediting this roll technique to your chan
Great to hear it’s been useful 👍🏻
Where this has a disadvantage, is on canoes with taller 'beaks' 'axe heads', as you need to overcome the point. Lake canoes or straighter topped canoes as his work well on the rollover
we hardly ever see the high beaked canoes here but id be keen to see techniques to handle this if you have any?
@@outdoorinstruction i can use your tech on a low beaked but heavy grumman no prob. But my lighter oldtown Tripper is difficult to get that roll over the beak....even tho 10lbs lighter. They both suck for lap-shelf tech tho
I use the same technique for lifting, but I work from the bow then walk backwards to meet the yoke.
Oh that’s interesting! How do you handle the yoke fitted backwards?
Awesome bro, I’ll give it a whirl. I’ll be carrying a small pack as well.
This. Is. BRILLIANT.
Brilliant! Now I am struggling to understand why the traditional method (center flip) is still used by all those youtubers from Canada and the US as this is so much easier. Thanks for sharing!
Center flip is exact same technique and motions, but you do it from the portage yoke. This means you're hefting the entire boat in one go vs just one end. So the traditional center flip requires more strength and balance.
@@spasecookee i disagree that they are the same basic technique. the completely diff. the trad center yoke requires spinning an entire boatr while balacing its wt with yours. with this new tech, you are creating a 3 point stance 2 legs and front beak. you are esstentially holding the same wt but in a much more stable stance. plus you have the ability to pivot canoe on the beak axis to go from a 90degree agle to say 45dregee angle to vehicle for loading. trad method has you standing in for portage for everything
The center flip method doesn't put the ends on the ground. As those are the parts of the canoe most susceptible to rot, keeping them out of harm's way might be a good idea.
If your canoe has plastic decks and spares are available, just dig holes with it and save your back.
@@jirivorobel942 I understand indeed when you have wooden decks, we however have plastic ones ,😜 so this is the way for me, indeed save my back!
Thanks for that. 👍
Slick. Thanks.
They taught this at summer camp wayyyy back (1970s)
Shame UA-cam wasn’t around then….
Exellent !! Many Thanks !!!
Most lightweight kevlar canoes can be flipped right up to your shoulders at the yoke. I would only use the technique you demonstrated with a heavy canoe.
I used to do that method too, this is easier on any boat. Unfortunately we do not use many Kevlar boats in the Uk, they don’t withstand the types of river. I was asked to test a composite boat on a very used piece of river and it cracked on day one.
@@outdoorinstruction There are many composite canoes being built in Canada and the U.S. that are designed for whitewater. IXP, Tuff Stuff (innegra/basalt), kevlar/innegra are used now because royalex is no longer available. Plus nobody wants an 80 pound canoe anymore. However, you are right. Lightweight kevlar models are not suitable for running rocky rivers. I've owned two kevlar models and they surprisingly can take quite a bit of abuse. But yes a full on crash with a boulder will not end well.
@@yooperventures2830 I’ve also been told that canoes in the Uk are very expensive compared to North America… £1700 min… so we tend to buy one boat, make it tough and do everything with it. Maybe one day I’ll get a specialist light weight boat
Thank you for this I never had trouble before with my light weight canoe. But I just got a new 17 foot that with mods is 110 120lbs love the thing but with just me and my two kids I was getting concerned about how the heck I was going to get this thing over my head.
Might give a try without the two kids, it would be much lighter lol!
I'll give it a try
Work smarter , not harder . That old saying applies here. Thank you .
Thank you glad it was useful
Awesome thanks 🇨🇦👍
brilliant!
Thanks 👍
Do you recommend a yoke even for short carries to the car? For longer portage I would probably just use a cart or have someone help me. I have a small composite canoe but because of my smaller size it's difficult to balance on my shoulders
I would definitely recommend a yoke for any solo carries, preferably a deep dish yolk to spread the load. Additionally yoke pads or a good idea particularly for people of a smaller frame, the pads can be purchased and stuffed into your day bag for use when necessary. For portages over a few hundred metres a trolley is a very wise move.
That is easy, and logical...but if your lower back is really bad, not good. At my age--bad back, I do this: back portage vehicle to the canoe, which is upside down. Chin up--which keeps back straight, I lift one end only, which is not much weight, arms to press it up and get under it, back up to the vehicle and set one end down on the rack. Go to the back, pick that end up and slide it on.
Try that with an Old Town 80lb Canoe..
@@pieterdijkstra9018 I will unless I find a better solo technique
Great way to lift a canoe over 50lb...I'm getting older lol
nice
TYFYS
Now you tell me?
So close,,, You did it correctly when you set it down, hands on the gunwales, not the seat
@@abowhand I am unsure what you mean?
What length is that Hou Canoe?
Almost 16 feet
It’s a Hou Prospector
chiropracters are cheering him with that twisting bend. Man, just get a friend.
A strong paddler should easily able to do this. Bodies are meant to be used. Weak people do get hurt, so train,
Most of the weight of the boat is resting on the ground, one is only lifting the end with this method.
Poor guy still has lots to learn on this subject it can be done much more efficiently
Would you be kind enough to share what you know with others? Perhaps a video so folks can learn?
@@outdoorinstruction Still no response from the expert!