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Same story for me; I really thought car prices for sports cars (non necessary) would bottom but they did the opposite! I would think the road conditions where you live would dictate if the R suspension settings are too stiff for a "daily". I will only be driving it on nice days, no rain (cross my fingers) and definitely not in the winter. Now the fender mesh people are putting into the front wheel arches, to stop stone chips on the doors... that's something I might do pretty quickly.

OH, we're not a couple! She's just a friend from work. (and my wife's best friend) I guess we'll still take the "adorable" though...🤣

@@CoolcarCrapcar ohh...lol my apologies

No worries! I do some episodes with my daughter and someone thought we were a couple too!

Those sound like great options; I'll ponder what to do over winter (a long ponder here in Winnipeg....) but nothing til then. Only 6 weeks til the snow might fly around here so gotta get out and drive!

I hadn't read about then active sound generator swap. How much did that cost? The suspension module swap looks pretty good to me as our winnipeg roads are awful. We have so many freeze-thaw cycles, the water seeps in and then freezes and busts everything up.

What makes you think that?

What parts do you think are chunky? I love the wide fenders; reminds me of the early m3 cars from BMW.

Well I'm starting at 60! (cant believe I'm actually that old; I'm pretty sure my maturity is about 40 yrs younger and thats not just my opinion!) Would a matter person call their channel Cool car Crap car? I don't think so!

I have had two Si coupes in the past; great cars. (well one was an SiR) Enjoy!

Thanks for the insight. I have read and watched so many comparisons between the Elantra N and Type R. You resonate much of what I have heard. I know I could have saved $$ going Elantra and had a blast, but when I heard Canada was only getting a touch over 500 cars, ever, I thought I'd have a more rare car and possibly a better investment for the future. Who knows, but too late: I have it! I am jealous of the N exhaust sound though. Very.

Great advice. I generally do that with any car. I dont know if I've heard of a lot of other manufacturers having trouble with the 2nd gear synchro and from what I"ve read, this has been a long standing problem for Honda, who makes great transmission! I did hear the casing is too small for them to put a larger/beefier synchro in there, so maybe thats the issue? My s2000 also had a bit of a 2nd gear grind. I havent pushed this car yet and wont til its broken in so I have no idea if I'll have same problem.

I’m making a list of disappointments and positives for an upcoming video. I obviously totally agree!

Thanks. I like it quite a bit though am a bit old school where sports cars are two doors. The car looks better in real life than pictures.

Thanks for the sub!

That makes sense. Hopefully you can get a local dealer to be reasonable? Have you considered looking outside your area? Lots of people have bought and drive it shipped to save $$, and you also get an adventure and a story for free!

I can’t point my finger at an exact article, but many sources are saying the next version of the type r will be hybrid. I think that’s part of the rush to buy one. I could be wrong, as its happened before!

Given industry trends not hard to believe last ICE/manual CTR

Should be interesting for you to compare them both. I’m planning a fk8 vs fl5 video with my nephew, but he’s pretty shy and is hesitant to be on camera. We will see.

Rattles, the bane of my existence, but I'll track them down (unless in the dash, and I dont want to tear apart the dash as I'll have 5 more rattles... I am concerned about after market exhausts as there always seems to be a problem with droning or electronics or something else, so I'll wait or just live with it. ITS exhaust would be the way to go if someone can recreate that; too bad it's longer than CTR so doesnt plug and play.

Well you can tell I'm no spring chicken either... I've owned many cars, and I've always appreciated the more surgical rather than brute horsepower vehicles. Seats are also a big deal to me. A BMW m2 would be great, but more money, and not as reliable, and this car should be more rare than that. Dealer made me buy Type R All weather mats so will see how well those cover. I've used Weathertec on most of my other cars. I've also looked at screens, but not sure which ones are best. Got a link?

Great question! Apparently the police thought it a good idea to help crime… I’d love to see the statistics that say they caught X amount of crooks because of two plates…. We used to have one and then now back to two.

If only the ITS exhaust could be easily swapped over, I'd be satisfied. I like that you dont need crazy speed to enjoy the car. Cant wait til 1000km break in is over!

@@CoolcarCrapcar same. I'm 750kms in myself. The dealer said just drive it and it'll be fine but I'd rather be mechanically sympathetic.

@@waynephilbert​​⁠I’ve only had a few brand new cars in my life, mostly buying barely used ones, and so want to not mess anything up with the drivetrain, 450 km to go!

I'm starting to read about people, even in CA, begin able to find some MSRP deals in the States. Have you considered going out of State and driving /shipping it back?

Are these often stolen? I can drop an AirTag on it but hadn't even considered it til your comment. Offset spacers are on my "maybe" list. Need to investigate further. I have noted with the current camber the bottom of the wheel is about flush with the top of the fender, but certainly not the top.

Ah, I think I remember reading about that many months ago. Will have to try that next week when I get back home. I think the "not having to hold the brake pedal" will seem pretty weird!

Good catch. I don't even like rap!

In what way? Adding to MSRP? Here in Canada Honda has a rule about not selling above MSRP, but most dealerships are sneaky and have "mandatory packages" or put on PPF and Ceramic and you have to buy it the way it is. The worst dealerships (mostly Ontario and BC) "sell" the car to a spouse or friend, who drives it 300 km and then sells it back to them. They then have cranked the asking price 25k in some situations, but because it's a "used" car, they circumvent Honda's rules. I bought mine for MSRP except for a few extras, but because of the person ahead of me ordering ceramic coating, I got tagged an additional $1200 than I was expecting to pay. I could have waited, but they were told zero allocations next year, so this could be their last one!

Thanks for the info on the ITS damp module. I want to keep this pretty much stock as thats the way I usually keep cars, but can swap the module if I want. I am pretty sure getting the mirror and garage button unit is a good idea; I think it's pretty cheap and quite easy to install. So, about that ITS module. Does the Type R mode have a good exhaust sound (probably still speaker enhanced?) without the punishing ride I currently have? I love a good exhaust sound, too bad we don t have the ITS one.

@@CoolcarCrapcar The ITS module only changes the suspension damping rates. It alters nothing else. So, each of the three modes and all the other Individual options are still available, and unchanged. The engine sound goes through the same three levels that it does with the stock module. +R engine sound is the same with either module, as are Custom and Sport sound. Same with the steering, and engine response. They all retain the same three levels as before. The only thing you'll notice is that you no longer have the stock +R suspension stiffness, as the new +R mode is roughly the equivalent of the stock Sport suspension. Sport is now the same as the stock Comfort suspension, and Comfort is now one step more comfortable than the stock Comfort suspension. In all three new suspensions modes, there is less bounciness. With the stock module, Comfort suspension mode is the least bouncy, but still too bouncy when going hard over bumpy roads. With the ITS module, that bounciness is greatly reduced. Better yet, you can actually use +R mode sometimes now. Comfort mode becomes genuinely comfortable. Sport mode is like taking the stock Comfort mode and optimising it, leaving it still fairly firm, but significantly less bouncy. For only $220, it's a no-brainer. Try it and decide. It's a ten minute swap that's easily reversible, and if you decide that you prefer the stock module then you will be able to sell the ITS module very quickly without losing any money.

@@vlj1133 You make a very convincing case! I'll probably keep it stock til winter (6-7 weeks away here) to get a good feel of driving it with CTR module and then try the ITS one in spring. Good info!

Ya, I'm still pinching myself... I havent' had a fun car since before COVID when I sold my Fiesta ST to my son and had planned on buying something else... except everything used sporty went up like 20%, so waited.

@@CoolcarCrapcar The wait seems like it was definitely worth it with this one! She's a gem

I contemplated a Golf R as well, but really wanted something (at least in Canada) that was rare; thus the 27 month wait. This will only be my summer/ special occasion car, so hopefully I wont miss a lot of what the Golf R has as standard like sunroof, heated seats and steering wheel (matching back seats... Honda really??) I also wanted standard and most of the Golf's come with their excellent DSG.

I beat golf R easily on my R ... plus who cares about Ford trash cars

What type of performance are we talking about? 0-60? 1/4 mile? If someone bought CTR for either of those they bought the wrong car. There’s no way a golf R is lapping a track quicker than CTR.

I've seen a few online, might consider it!

@CoolcarCrapcar cool I watch LHT performance channel where I got the idea. Reminds me of the DC2 Integra Type R when done

No way, the black wing look’s amazing imo

I do like the black wing, just not sure about the supports!

I agree. I've had quite a few hot hatches through the years; Ford Escort GT, Civic Si, VW Gti , Fiesta ST. I wish the car itself wasnt so big, but I'm really liking it so far! Can't wait til 1000km to climb past 4000 rpm!

I agree with your comment about the size. The Civic has continued to grow in size. All trim levels of the current generation Civic are really good. You mention the Fiesta ST. I really enjoyed the size and fun factor. I think that is why I am enjoying my new GR Corolla so much. It reminds me of the FIST but has more power and capability with the AWD. However like the FIST, the GR Corolla interior is not premium like the Civic. The Type-R is more hardcore than the GR and at least for me, I was more tempted to drive it a little too aggressive on the street. Since I have no plans to take a car to the track, the GR works better for me.

I hear you! The only thing I would want to change would be the exhaust sound. (and maybe the Type S adaptive module) Right now, not doing anything!

@@CoolcarCrapcar I pass on the module because I don’t get the complaints on it but if you’re in +R all the time then I see why. But for me it’s pretty conftable coming from crap suspension setups and coilovers.

@@CoolcarCrapcarJust my two cents…As a previous owner of 2 FK8 CTRs I would recommend eventually getting some lightweight 18 inch wheels. I had 20s and my son had stock 19s on his Accord…both had tires pop due to bad roads/potholes.(two tires at the same time on my CTR). Most people who track their cars use 18s because the actual stock sized tires(basically rubber bands thickness wise don’t last very long). I did the Phearable Stage 2 Tune on my 2019 which can be returned back to stock easily with a computer(for me,I liked the tune with its different shift points etc./no issues whatsoever!(put 88k on that car in one year/commuting) I traded in 19 for 21 to go FBO(approximately 400hp). Spent 12-15 on parts,labor,wheels,custom tune etc…I wouldn’t necessarily do that again because adding that cost on top of a CTR’s price opens up other options performance car wise in that price range. I love the slot car handling and Honda’s bulletproof reliability…it’s just not the fastest car off the line. I actually liked the stealthy exhaust note because it didn’t announce to every cop within 5 miles that I was coming. It also helped when passing another car on the freeway for those people who think it’s cute to speed up and close a gap…just because you’re trying to pass. No loud exhaust alerting them that I’m powering up. Closest thing to a ICE Tesla😂.I’m sure we’ve all heard the proverbial Mustang with the super loud look at me exhaust…🙄

@@elvincastro9479 I actually dont mind the Comfort setting, I've owned much harder riding cars (fiesta ST for example) but I want the open valving on the exhaust that Type R mode gets, but dont want to get banged up with the tight damper setting in exchange for the sound! I have heard of people putting their car into Type R mode and then pulling the fuse associated with teh dampers so it stays in that mode. Not sure about that , but might investigate further.

@@justwingingit1 Thanks for the comments and advice. I was offered wheel and tire insurance at the dealership (1st Canadian?? product) for $500 and declined though they said I can get it anytime, as long as it was before I had a problem! (of course) I don't like really loud exhausts but I do like the Type S, which I guess is NA only product so international noise laws don't apply.

I had not heard anything about weight being a factor. That would make sense, as otherwise it was an odd decision. I also have seen the gas gauge move alarmingly fast, only to realize the fill up was so little. I wish the type S exhaust was the same length and just bolt on; I'd do that in a heartbeat. I also agree about the handbrake and didnt know about TMPS (yet). Lots to learn about the car and will have a series of ownership videos on the car.

Thanks! Do you have a link to hear the sound difference with the intake? Does it affect anything else on the car? I'm a little Leary of modding as there often seems to be side effects.

He's only 29 yo. Don't do drugs, kids. 😅

Hmmm. Well I'm out of town til next week so will have to try again. So far I've given a decent amount of gas and let out the clutch and it hasn't come off yet... maybe I have to do a burnout!

@@CoolcarCrapcarStrange it works on mine, at least in reverse. Not sure I’ve tried it going forward yet. Also in Canada.

Great question. I have to wait til my son comes over and he can drive and I can hunt down the noise. So far the dealership stuck some foam "somewhere". Might be knee bag plastic cover, but tough to figure out when I'm driving and cant be in both seats at the same time! I hate rattles so will hopefully get to the source next week.

@@CoolcarCrapcarmine had the a buzzing issue. Stick foam on the passenger side of the rear view mirror. Gone! Buzz at 4200-4800rpm. Sounded I swear it was in front of the info to the firewall. Good luck. If you fix it let us all know!

@highpeaks6542 thanks! I will try zeroing in on the location when I get back to the car next week.

I am still on the lookout for a non abused ST, then would be my everyday driver / all Seasons vs. The Type R.

Congrats on getting the Type-R. It is a great car. I also had a FIST several years ago. A very fun car. I am a Honda guy, but I picked up a new GR Corolla 3 weeks ago. For me, as a 56 year old retiree the GR is easier to live with and more fun. Nobody seems to know about the GR, so I don’t get tempted to do silly things by others, like when I drove the Type-R. It is great that we still have fun manual transmission cars that are reasonably priced. (If you can get at MSRP)

The GR Corolla sure is a great car. I think what swayed me was that I was on a list at a dealer who said they'd sell for MSRP. Well, they had mandatory add-ons that their Group charges on all cars, so I had to buy a few things extra. Other dealers in CDA were circumventing Honda's "cant sell for more than MSRP" so I was a little nervous that my dealer would pull the same tricks. They didnt, so am happy. Lots of $$ for a Civic, but I like all performance cars and thought the rarity of the Type R in Canada would ensure long term value.

@@CoolcarCrapcar I think you made the right choice for a long term hold at this time. Of course, with all things, time will tell but I would have done the same thing.

Great insight! I am still looking for a used one that is “cheapish” but most cheaper ones are rebuilt status around here.

I agree. We have always owned outback’s; all limited except one that was between bottom end and ltd. In Canada, we traditionally get more features than USA (like heated seats etc).

Hope the review helped in some way. I’d think about an extended warranty if only for the transmission. Definitely buying used will save you a lot of money as they do appreciate much faster than other brands.

Hey, glad you liked it! We have a 2022 crosstrek video coming. Seems lots of people like Subarus!

The st is definitely not crap! Looking for another non abused one!

Glad it helped. I'm also looking for a reasonably priced non abused copy; my son has mine and I miss it!

What mods would you suggest? I"m still looking for one with low mileage and low price!

Which mods do you suggest? It will probably be my next car. The only mod I have lined up is an AA Wireless to get wireless android auto

Glad you liked it! Thx for subbing.

Thanks! Glad you liked it!

Thanks for the comment! Does that work with manual shift/ reverse and 1st gear? I still stand by that it was placed in a terrible spot, pretty hard to get at. My subaru Outback at least has it in the middle console; easy to access. I still would want a manual pull brake of course! (Then you KNOW it's actually engaged!)

@@CoolcarCrapcar yep, sure does. I discovered it by accident. It isn't too bad for me, as it is in a similar place as the release in my Challenger.

I’ll keep that in mind if I pick up another one. I really liked it stock but more power seems like a good upgrade!

My family had not one, but two pinto station wagons! The orange one even had the fake woody look along the side! I hope our Subaru is not the modern equivalent!! That would be crappy…

I actually am still searching for another ST, and prices are finally coming down from the Covid crazy pricing they were. However trying to find a nice sample is getting harder and harder. Seriously, the best bang for buck car I ever owned. At least my son can enjoy it!

I think I would agree 100% with your feelings towards the car. I am 6' and felt a little squeezed in it. If I could have lowered the seat more, I think that would have done the trick. The A spec looks much nicer. I'd totally go for one of those if the price was right! that engine and transmission will last forever.* (* figure of speech... not actually !)