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I use a Vizio Xr6m10 tablet TV remote. It’s got a nice big screen and is pretty cheap on eBay. For tuning apps is use PianoMeter and Tunelab. Thanks for watching.

Yes, they really did sound “poofy”. Steinway U.S.A. uses lacquer cut with lacquer thinner It puts off a lot of nasty fumes but is the best for deep juicing. For less intense juicing and for applying just drops on top I’ve recently moved from keytops and acetone to B-72 and alcohol. B-72 is really great and can be found in pellets online.

@@the_daily_ping Thanks for the info.

Thanks for watching. Tight centers is a big problem in Miami. Sometimes I have to go nuclear with water and alcohol or even Ballistol oil.

Thanks for the question and thanks for watching. For voicing hammers “Up” I using either lacquer in lacquer thinner or B-52 in alcohol. For hard pressed hammers I have two voicing tools. A three needle tool with 6-7 mm length needles for deeper needling and a 7 needle tool with 2-3mm needles for more delicate needling. I’ll do a video on these soon.

Tell me about it! Rock hard hammers just blast your ears. Fortunately this piano has had lots of deep needling over the years so they’re not so hard anymore.

That's interesting. Perhaps the solution wasn't string enough. Straight Acetone will soften the felt. I'm glad that some filing got you to where you wanted to be.

I always start by re-facing worn hammers, and then attend to any voicing or doping thereafter - if and as needed. Starting with the correct hammer profile is far better than trying to alter the tone on worn hammers, other than when a customer wants to keep their costs way down.

Wow, I’d never thought about that. That’s an excellent point.

Hi. Thanks for your question. Most production line pianos are voiced during manufacturing and Kawai is not different. In fact, I’m my opinion Kawai goes further than most in making sure that their pianos have a good B amount of voicing fine before they ship them out. That being said, the final voicing on a piano is always done in the home. I would consult with your tech to see if any notes needs more voicing.

I was thinking about doing a needle voicing video soon. Perhaps it would help get going. Thanks for watching.

If you had actually taken the time to listen to what I said in the video you'd see that I already did that exact thing. Thanks for watching.

@the_daily_ping Doping felt prior to a thorough 'pre-voicing procedure, to include impeccably clean unisons and a fine regulation is amateur. Your decision to add hardner was made on your ride to the venue. ruining hammers 101

@@beethovensgmy take was that he was hoping to use it/predicted he might need it, but wasn’t immediately set on it.

You can actually use this to your advantage. Dissolved in acetone, the b72 travels towards the surface. Dissolved in Everclear, the b72 doesn’t travel back.

Yeah, I use alcohol when I’m trying to get it in the core and I usually travel with the acetone for more attack and faster drying.

@@Hammondbrass thanks for the tip. I’ve only been using alcohol with different amounts of B-72 for different strengths. I’ll have to mix some up with acetone to have on hand.

@@edwardsnz hey, no problem! I usually go in through the side, just under the crown, with alcohol B72 to add power but not attack.

@@Hammondbrass did you go to Northwestern? You look familiar.

The background music in general is extremely distracting

I agree. I am a totally blind individual and I like to listen to what he is doing. The music is very distracting. It takes away from the video.

Yeah. Occasional music here and there is fine, but when doing anything where you hear the pianos in the room (even when listening isn’t the goal) it’s distracting and tiring to always have it there.

Thanks for taking the time to comment. You're right in that the spring doesn't directly cause bobbling. In this video I was really just trying to show that several issues caused the bobbling. In this case it was the knuckle bouncing off the rep lever which was ultimately caused by a regulation setup for a weak spring. Instead of tightening the spring it seems that the jack was lowered in the rep window which in turn causes the drop to be too high. Additionally the back check was also raised to compensate. The rep spring really is king.

@@the_daily_ping yeah, that makes total sense to me.

How much? What do you mean?

@@the_daily_ping I meant, what would I expect to pay a piano tech to do what you did on the video? Thanks!

Oh I see. There’s no standard price for piano services. Also, this video is just a part of the service that this piano received. Along with the hammer reshaping there was some regulation and voicing. It was a half-day service. Your best approach is to ask around for which techs are the most reputable in your area and then call and see what the going rate would be.

You’re right. There was quite a few things going wrong there. The whole action is in need of some fine regulation. It’s in a tough room too. It gets the sun every morning and then has the A/C blasting on it. Fortunately it’s not used for anything really critical.

​@@the_daily_pingthat's just one sad piano. Personally i refuse to work on pianos that has direct sun light on it. Especially if the piano is played by multiple people, like in schools. Last thing i need is to hear that i took money and didn't do the job or did it poorly, just because someone didn't used window shades.

The last sentence about regulation is voicing.. i would not call it that. Regulation has impact on the sound undoubtedly. Angle and power of hammer strike changes the tone. I would just reserve the Voicing for work on the hammers and strings.

@@Tomáš_Nithrania Yea, I don’t usually conflate those two things in conversation because they do imply two very different processes. But we’re all techs here so “Everything is voicing!” 🤣

You’re welcome! I made a Short that shows how the repetition lever and tbe Jack tender hit the let-off dowel and the drop screw at the same time. The syncing is really about having the Jack and repetition lever launch the knuckle (and by extension the hammer) at the string at the same time. The distance tbe Jack tip travels in order to escape the knuckle varies so err on the side of proper drop rather than perfect syncing. At a recent Steinway seminar the instructor didn’t care much about syncing them but he was teaching about newer pianos where regulation can still be very crisp.

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Hey, thanks!

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Read a book.

@the_daily_ping you , my good man need some realization. Enough from the peanut gallery.

@@beethovensgyou’re right, he’s wrong. He doesn’t have a good grasp on regulation unfortunately. Most techs don’t. The repetition spring needs to be just strong enough to hold up the hammer. Any extra, is just a safety buffer. Ideally you want it barely holding up the hammer. It doesn’t actually need to pop up from the back check. The name repetition spring is extremely misleading. Tight repetition spring doesn’t speed up repetition. High back checking does! Also for back check, it’s not “I like it half way”. It should be “as high as possible without rubbing during fffff blows” The double strike is because of not enough after touch and or drop is not enough, and too tight repetition springs.

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You're welcome!

Thanks for your compliment! You can put a drop or two on the strike point but it’s better to start on the end of the string grooves (away from the strike point towards the shoulders) rather than directly on top. Just put one drop on each end of the strings grooves and see if the sound comes around.

Great to hear!

My pleasure!

It’s just from Amazon. It’s labeled UnitronWorld but I’ve seen this with different brands. The clamp part has rubber on the sides but I glued some felt in the extending part of the clamp as its metal and could scratch a pianos finish

@@the_daily_ping thanks for that!

@@the_daily_ping I just got mine. That must be some thin felt, there’s only 0.7mm space for it! Thanks for the tip.

I’m glad you enjoyed the video. The song there was something I made up on the spot. I’m sure it comes from somewhere but I was just riffing.

Can you explain more about syncing "tone production / bottom of the key"? Thanks.

@@the_daily_ping Play with your amount of aftertouch (by modifying blow distance, after having set perfect letoff and key depth ) , and feel when tone seems to appear exactly when the key hits the front punching . Syncing letoff/drop + this feel makes a great regulation. And don't underestimate the importance of jack position under the roller, and replever height, as it also has an influence on this clear touch pianists are looking for when playing.

Thanks for your comment Dan. It’s true that mixing the solution to the right consistency can be difficult. The premade mix from Schaffer is a real time saver. That’s definitely a good suggestion. The new thing seems to be B-72. @Chernobieeff has a great video on getting a measurable consistency with B-72. I’m going to try that out next.

Have you ever used hairspray for brighter tone?

@rogershaffer1 This method has been used, and its effect is miniscule and temporary, but the damage to the wools' resilience is permanent and irreversible

@@beethovensg what is your preference to improve power on soft hammers? I use cold pressed Ronsen hammers and they arrive quite soft

@rogershaffer1 install Renner ' Premium Blue Point Hammers, (ranging from 12lb to 18lb gross weight), made from Weikert felt, ( blended with long and short fibers) which maintain resiliency and resist deformation over long periods of heavy play. These hammers are voiced 'down' and are positively reviewed by master technicians on many different brands of instruments. They are the best modern hammer available, guaranteed.

@@beethovensg Thank you kindly for taking the time to respond. I will order a set from Chip. Back to my original question , what is your preference if you wish to voice it for a more brilliant tone?