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Why Does Everyone Hate Dark Souls 2?
#DarkSouls2 #DarkSouls #FromSoftware
Why does Dark Souls 2 receive so much hate? For years, I've wondered this myself, so I finally played it. This video is a deep dive into Dark Souls 2 in both its successes and its failures, offering comparison to the changes FromSoftware made relative to Dark Souls 1. I focused on game mechanics and level design and now finally understand why it's loved by many, but hated by more. Whether you're a seasoned Soulsborne player or new to the series, this is everything you need to know about Dark Souls 2.
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
0:57 Video Breakdown
2:46 Good Game Mechanics
6:19 Bad Game Mechanics
19:55 Large Scale Level Design
2:36 Good Small Scale Level Design
28:36 Bad Small Scale Level Design
36:39 Outro
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  • @ohdanggaming2653
    @ohdanggaming2653 9 хвилин тому

    Bosses so easy dodge is rarely needed. Definitely some bad mechanics but doesnt make the game tougher imo.

  • @ohdanggaming2653
    @ohdanggaming2653 20 хвилин тому

    I dont hate it its just the least best 😂 if them all. I got bloodborne, DS3, Demon Souls, and Elden Ring platinums. Close on DS2 and DS. Sekiro idk if ever lol Armored Core 6 one trophy away.

  • @ariagraall1590
    @ariagraall1590 7 годин тому

    imo, humanity mechanic and stamina regen mechanic are just choices that are misinterpreted but aren't bad in themselves. in DS1 the health bar isn't changed weather you are human or not, and in DS3 you have more life as a human. But since the health you "lose" when you are hollow isn't shown in DS3, it looks like you "gain" life if you are human so this is perceived as a bonus, whereas in DS2, it's seen as a malus since you can see your health bar "decrease". But it's the same mechanic overall, it's even more lenient/permissive in DS2 bc it decrease slowly. The fact that it's a gambling bc you can get invaded while human is the same in every DS, but the design of the bar makes it seem different. 50% of health is too much tho I agree, but at the same times it's a way for the game to be sure that you use the human effigy mechanic ! As for the stamina regen, I think it's fair to not be able to hit full force if you haven't enough stamina, you have to control it as well, and it would be awful of you just weren't able to hit. The malus of the time it take to get back to full is normal as well, even if it's a bit too punitive. You exceeded your limits, you are punished for it, it's fair game.

  • @royalkina
    @royalkina 8 годин тому

    DS2 to me is still the best of the trilogy! The build variety, the fashion souls, the lore and majula....man put that shit into my veins! All my homie love majula

  • @grafteddragon991
    @grafteddragon991 9 годин тому

    I was goofing around i invaded as a wearing a wondering merchant set and was sitting in random spots in a areas no didn't see me in (mostly in bushes) and i leave stuff out like im selling or they just message me to see what they what they want and one day i want to do some mischief and did the ruptured tears and saw i invaded a low level person and saw that they didn't know anything about the game because they almost sneaked around the tree sentinel saw his friend with him that was helping him so i sat down where they can see me and as soon as i popped the physic i was next to the noob and got him

  • @ryguy1483
    @ryguy1483 10 годин тому

    Dark Souls 2 defenders keep making cope mental gymnastics AFTER theyve beaten the game a few times. They forget that the horrible stamina, estus flask slow heal, the mob placements, the illusionary walls, the horrible bosses, and adaptability are something most people will notice mid game and get pissed having to work around these issues that never exists in any other souls game for a reason. Its bad for both new and old players.

  • @a.s.raiyan2003-4
    @a.s.raiyan2003-4 14 годин тому

    I think people in the comments should understand Joe is not a hater. He is stating the reasons why people dislike it. And alot of the people are praising are just out of nostalgia. I played it and I'll say it's the worst out of the trilogy.

  • @44Synyster
    @44Synyster 23 години тому

    No. Not "the Souls community AS A WHOLE". We may have been a tiny minority, but there have always been outspoken DaS2 advocates like myself. I've been part of the community since the dark days when elitism and toxicity were championed by most of the fanbase. I have ALWAYS defended DaS2. SotFS is.....harder to defend. And you are severely late to the party. Most of the community, even some of the most diehard enemies of DaS2, have come around on it and acknowledge its worth.

  • @TTVmonstermuffin
    @TTVmonstermuffin День тому

    I played DS2, 3 times and yet had no idea you could remove the poison

  • @joshuavallotton8801
    @joshuavallotton8801 День тому

    Love Elden ring pvp its an unbalanced mess but I think that’s the spice that makes those 1v2 or 1v3s so exciting especially when you pull off the impossible win

  • @thaias9654
    @thaias9654 День тому

    Everyone always complaining about the hollowing mechanic and having 3 effective ring slots and no human effigies... meanwhile every time i play i just place a small soapstone sign to restore my healthbar because SOMEHOW there are still people summoning me after all these years. I also reach the end of the game with like 70+ effigies. Please take them i have too many.

  • @ronbird121
    @ronbird121 День тому

    on the points of ds2 cruelty, i say its peak souls mentality

  • @YourmomshouseXD
    @YourmomshouseXD День тому

    Games amazing the player that is me not so much 😂

  • @warning6449
    @warning6449 День тому

    I've realized that 99% of the time people have problems with DS2 is because they treat it as an action game rather than a mix of action and RPG. Instead of playing the game at the slower pace and like that of an adventure, they want to act like it's DS3 or some generic action game and try to speed through the entire game, skipping most enemies and not taking things slow and cautiously and carefully learning the mechanics. When you take the game slow and play it on its terms then you realize how the pieces fit together to make a slower tactical experience than 1, but if you have ADHD and just want to roll and press R1 or have cool flashy weapon arts that trivialize the game you are never going to like it and you are just going to see it as unfair. That is what it all comes down to. All the mechanics push you into being slow, cautious, and to think about your actions and have backup plans yet in so much gameplay for critiques of the game including yours I just see people bullrushing into dumb situations and then getting mad about it, not taking into account the strengths and weaknesses of enemies at all. As if running into the bridge drake's fire over and over again in 1 wasn't equally as stupid. Even the ganks are not as bad in 2 as they are in 1 or 3 if you really look for them and play slowly like you are supposed to and the game drives you to do. Meanwhile in 3 you have dragon chain axe guys that can clip you through walls and hitscan health stealers that can also block your healing. And then there are of course the bonewheels in multiple sections of 1, the duke's archives, the painted world, etc as well. People just don't talk about them as being "unfair" like with 2 because the game doesn't punish you for being ADHD and just trying to weak attack, panic roll, and sip your way out of trouble. Or better yet, just run past it since this kind of person sees anything that isn't a boss enemy as being "not worth their time" because they just want an action game with only the suggestion of RPG mechanics and not an actual RPG. Yes, some parts are janky and the level design is weaker than DS1, but the marriage between action and RPG is more fluid than any other Souls game where in DS1 some options were just useless (like the whip, crossbows, fist weapons, etc) and DS3 only pretended to have RPG mechanics but was really just shallow and all about the devs forcing you to play in a manner to Bloodborne (which frankly did massive damage to From's RPG design philosophy by shifting their focus to only the action portions of the games and neglecting things like real build variety). DS2 makes everything useful if you are clever enough, and if you have problems using the massive sandbox/toolkit the game gives you which is bigger than any other souls game, the issue is with you and not the game.

  • @AliFindsGadgets
    @AliFindsGadgets День тому

    ds2 make two diffrent types of people the yapping crybabies or those who adapts with game new challenges and bugs and enjoys the game

  • @timmularkie3675
    @timmularkie3675 День тому

    the health pool system was not as bad as you've made it sound... and adp... i never really had an issue with it. wasnt much of a crutch. the stamina issue is about the only annoying part. where you had an issue with the damage fall-off i agree its messed up but honestly if you arent trying to document the numbers its fairly un-noticed. the hate for this game to my mind is severely un-warranted in most aspects. its all personal opinion but everyone needs to stop crying that this game didnt hold hands

  • @thesongofthelinnet
    @thesongofthelinnet День тому

    Okay I tried watching this to the end but I have to stop. First you complain about the gankfests in front of boss doors and during run backs, which are completely optional if you just kill everything enough that it goes away, and the game ENCOURAGES you to do this. For example: Bashful Ray is a summon you can use for the undead chariot, but his thing is that he has a timer of a number of enemies he kills before he despawns. So if you don't clear out that run back to get to the skeleton lords or undead Chariot first, you're likely not going to be able to keep him on as a summon for the fight. The run back to blue Smelter demon in brume tower is another example of that, the game's telling you to take it slowly. Especially since some of the blue smelter demon's attacks do have that delay to them where if you dodge too soon, you're getting clipped like you're fighting Morgott in Elden Ring and then you complain about the despawn mechanics Pick one Every kill counts in this game, it's encouraging you to keep going because you're making progress every time you get a kill. It's not like the boss run backs in the other fromsoft games. O and S in ds1 is an annoying run back, and doubly annoying because if you want to keep solaire at full health for the fight you have to clear those two giants without getting hit yourself or you lose heals for the main fight. Yes, you could pop a humanity instead of a estus flask usage, but that's not the point. That's still one less heal. Or multiple if you take more than a couple hits from the giants, and that's assuming you make it past the I think 4 silver knights between Solaire's bonfire, up thru the shortcut, and to O and S's boss arena. And don't forget that one silver knight with the bow who's waiting to snipe you from what feels like half way across the map soon as you walk in the room There's so many hard hitting enemies just waiting to ruin your day, and Solaire's meanwhile in ds2, you could put on some music and just relax while clearing them all out and would end up with a nice stack of souls to use on upgrades or levels by the time you have everyone out of the day and can leisurely take a walk with Solaire to the fog wall. Or: if you don't want that because of the soul memory thing there's a ring in the game that stops you from absorbing any souls while farming. You didn't even get to the Covenant of Champion's thing with them making the enemies just a little harder to kill in return for them infinitely re spawning.

  • @thesongofthelinnet
    @thesongofthelinnet День тому

    7:55 human effigies aren't limited, you can farm them like humanities off the rats in the depths in ds1 by joining the covenant of champions and then repeat killing enemies that drop them. McDuff's bonfire in the lost bastile is a good place to farm the dogs for human effigies. They're not limited like divine blessings or the lockstones, they just have an annoying drop rate.

  • @banana_monsoon9777
    @banana_monsoon9777 День тому

    I use taunters tongue to 1v1 invaders for more fun

  • @dziosdzynes7663
    @dziosdzynes7663 2 дні тому

    skill issue thats why

    • @joegella
      @joegella 2 дні тому

      The game is pretty easy tbh

  • @farshadhardcore
    @farshadhardcore 2 дні тому

    I refer musashi build in vagabond manga

  • @kittydaddy2023
    @kittydaddy2023 2 дні тому

    14:04 Movement in DS2 is why I uninstalled it after 10 minutes after recently giving it another try. There were even more issues in DS2 on launch. You don't want a jank moving system in a game already known for jank and tiny, tiny walking puzzles. DS2 was so bad I never bought DS3 or Elden Ring. I only play DS1 LOL

  • @S3XBob0mb
    @S3XBob0mb 2 дні тому

    Barely anyone thinks the game is bad. Matthewmatosis answered the question years ago why people might think the game is inferior to other titles in the series but I have yet to meet a single person who outright hates the game. From the video title some might start to believe the game sits at 60% positive steam reviews or something. But the reality, as always with clickbait youtube videos, looks quite different.

    • @joegella
      @joegella 2 дні тому

      If barely anyone thinks the game is bad, it wouldn't be called bad by so many people. This video attracted a lot of ds2 enjoyers. The rest of the community thinks it's bad

  • @seanfranklin8679
    @seanfranklin8679 2 дні тому

    Miyazaki + the people who animate attack on titan + the 97 voice actors + lots of money is my Berserk equation

  • @azaril7780
    @azaril7780 2 дні тому

    I didnt even know half of this stuff existed, i just remember dodging being garbage, enemies following you to the end of time, and weapons breaking in two swings against ava

    • @azaril7780
      @azaril7780 2 дні тому

      Also, iirc, if you die to Aldia, you have to fight nashandra again, so assuming you fought giant lord before throne watchers, and you did everything to make Aldia mad at you, Wich you could do without knowing iirc, you'd fight, throne watchers, then nashandra, and then Aldia. To my knowledge, no other souls game does this.

  • @riccardogranato1274
    @riccardogranato1274 3 дні тому

    I loved this game so much I can't really get why it got the hate it did. Not my favourite Souls game but definitely an amazing game in my own, humble opinion.

  • @MixedSnowFox
    @MixedSnowFox 3 дні тому

    Like i always say, i don't think Dark Souls 2 is a bad GAME, but it's a bad SOULS game. If it were a good souls game it wouldn't get so much hate from the community, the only people i've ever seen saying that they like DS2 are the ones that played it as his first souls game, and later abandoned it completely after playing any other from the series.

  • @arisrayden
    @arisrayden 3 дні тому

    i'm sorry but when you gloss over life gems and label them "no big deal" it becomes very hard for me to take you serious. you are either lying on purpose for whatever reason or you inspite of getting all achivements you have not understood the significance of life gems. they have the potential to absolutely trivialize the whole game even on a first playthrough. they are cheapish at the start and become progressively cheaper as you go through the game and you have a vendor with an infinite supply once you figure out the "get them back to madjula mechanic". they stack though i dont know how much they certainly stack to the point where you are offsetting incoming damage to an incredible degree. dont get me wrong i like ds2 a lot. i even think its "the most dark souls like dark souls" which i'm sure many people would disagree with. i also love the life gems but calling them no big deal is insane

    • @joegella
      @joegella 3 дні тому

      To put this into perspective, I used the handful of life gems you get in the first hours of the game till you get estus. From that point forward, I horded them for boss fights or times when i felt like I was close to the next bonfire. I also used them when i was poisoned. So to me, they were no big deal. They were something I used in a pinch. They really balanced out the super slow estus

  • @legendcat8913
    @legendcat8913 3 дні тому

    And yet I consider DS2 to be my second favorite in the franchise...

  • @VerletztStern
    @VerletztStern 3 дні тому

    25:47 nashandra actually cant open the thing to the throne of want herself and has to wait for the bearer of the curse to open it after beating the giant lord (the same giant as another boss called the last giant its a weird time thing but he freaks out when he sees you because he knows you defeated him even tho at that point you havent yet) shes a child of the dark and the queen her cover would be blown if she had adventures all over the place

  • @VerletztStern
    @VerletztStern 3 дні тому

    18:31 when you hit him he continued moving the sword in the swing dirrection and it went though you fast so the game counts it as a hit as a ds2 fan (its my fav game) i can admit thats hella bs sometimes

  • @maxramsey4506
    @maxramsey4506 3 дні тому

    lowkey actually funny. The MJ intro caught me by suprise.

  • @Kyoko_
    @Kyoko_ 3 дні тому

    Why did you decide to make a long list of bad mechanics just to stop at the very end and make the viewer pause your video and read them? The Dark Souls 2 of decisions.

  • @johnbradley8901
    @johnbradley8901 4 дні тому

    99+ hours, level 500+ character, and a face that would let other players know that I have never died...no hollowing on this boi, not once, patience, patience, patience....fall off a cliff in the Tower of Flame, woops You Died into the water...I think my controller hit the ground before my character hit the water. First and only time I have spiked hardware. I really love/hate DS2.

  • @texasfalcon3611
    @texasfalcon3611 4 дні тому

    85 years!?

  • @atticusbailey5934
    @atticusbailey5934 4 дні тому

    “I’m aboutta gerk” -Buts from Gerk

  • @reidcasteel1127
    @reidcasteel1127 4 дні тому

    Im a simple man, people say broken dark souls 1 is better than 2, i stop watching

  • @taliongreymane9684
    @taliongreymane9684 4 дні тому

    how have i never thought to try the mirror crap in invasions until now- like dude half of these things i forget exist, i'd check the new item tab to look at it then forget about it after a while

  • @jackflanagan2517
    @jackflanagan2517 4 дні тому

    I’ve quit and retried this game 4 times now and I just can’t get into it it’s the only souls game I haven’t beat yet there’s just so much about this game that irks me so bad I just can’t play it I could see how people could like it but it’s just not for me I’d rather replay bloodborne or Sekiro for my 4th time than finish this game

  • @jandigga
    @jandigga 4 дні тому

    Funny… not

  • @arthurcourtois1561
    @arthurcourtois1561 4 дні тому

    At 12:10 ennemies with shields have more defenses than these without shield. I discovered this during my no death run.