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Emerging virtual reality technologies are redefining the technological landscape and the future of the internet. Most people focus on games or fitness in VR. However, companies like Immersed are enabling users to take productive work to unprecedented new levels! In Immersed, I can work on 5 screens... the size of IMAX movie theater screens... in space! I have been a software developer for over 20 years. During that time, I've seen a lot of changes in the technologies and tools developers use. However, I have never before experienced such a disruptive paradigm shift as working in VR using Immersed.
As amazing as working in VR is, it can take some getting used to! I've created this channel to share video clips relating to working in VR in general, and working in Immersed specifically. For more information about Immersed, check them out at: immersed.com and immersed.com/community.
I am not an Immersed employee or affiliate. I just love using their software!
As amazing as working in VR is, it can take some getting used to! I've created this channel to share video clips relating to working in VR in general, and working in Immersed specifically. For more information about Immersed, check them out at: immersed.com and immersed.com/community.
I am not an Immersed employee or affiliate. I just love using their software!
Immersed - No More IRL Monitors
The latest agent software update from Immersed prevents connecting your computer to Immersed if you have additional, physical monitors connected. In this video, I show my solution for reducing this friction, making it super quick and easy to go from multiple monitors IRL to multiple screens in Immersed.
UPDATE: I had a bit of a "duh" moment thanks to a couple friends of mine on the Immersed Discord (TizzyBizzy & janusz.magujato). If you don't want the expense of a second docking station, you can power your external monitors into a switched power strip. Simply flip the switch to power your monitors off and back on again! 🤦♂️
0:00 Introduction
0:30 Updated Agent Software
1:02 Error Message
1:52 My Set Up Before the Updated Software
2:53 My Solution - 2nd Docking Station & Magnetic USB-C Connector
3:30 My Set Up After the Updated Software
4:53 Demonstration
6:10 Close-Up View
6:45 Closing Thought - Show the Team Some Grace
If you want your voice to be heard on this topic, please consider posting your thoughts on the Immersed Discord: immersed.com/community I know many people are frustrated with this change, as am I. However, the videos on this channel are intended to help "grease the wheels" of working in VR. Hopefully this video will help some of you be able to use multiple IRL monitors and still quickly and easily use Immersed.
Interested in the new Immersed headset? Check out visor.com/
Use my referral code to save anywhere from $20 to $50 on your headset: visor.com/?r=78a67d6e77033b
Want to join me in VR? Check out immersed.com/
Want to learn more? Check out immersed.com/community
Note: I am not an Immersed employee. I'm a paying customer (although you can use Immersed for free). I just love using their software to work in VR!
UPDATE: I had a bit of a "duh" moment thanks to a couple friends of mine on the Immersed Discord (TizzyBizzy & janusz.magujato). If you don't want the expense of a second docking station, you can power your external monitors into a switched power strip. Simply flip the switch to power your monitors off and back on again! 🤦♂️
0:00 Introduction
0:30 Updated Agent Software
1:02 Error Message
1:52 My Set Up Before the Updated Software
2:53 My Solution - 2nd Docking Station & Magnetic USB-C Connector
3:30 My Set Up After the Updated Software
4:53 Demonstration
6:10 Close-Up View
6:45 Closing Thought - Show the Team Some Grace
If you want your voice to be heard on this topic, please consider posting your thoughts on the Immersed Discord: immersed.com/community I know many people are frustrated with this change, as am I. However, the videos on this channel are intended to help "grease the wheels" of working in VR. Hopefully this video will help some of you be able to use multiple IRL monitors and still quickly and easily use Immersed.
Interested in the new Immersed headset? Check out visor.com/
Use my referral code to save anywhere from $20 to $50 on your headset: visor.com/?r=78a67d6e77033b
Want to join me in VR? Check out immersed.com/
Want to learn more? Check out immersed.com/community
Note: I am not an Immersed employee. I'm a paying customer (although you can use Immersed for free). I just love using their software to work in VR!
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Immersed - Essential Quest 3 Accessories
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The Meta Quest 3 is an amazing piece of technology. However, out of the box, it is uncomfortable and not practical for all-day use. In this video, I share what I consider to be four essential after-market accessories that make the Q3 a joy to use. Links: VR-Rock Prescription Lens Inserts: www.vr-rock.com/?ref=PLiNokQgXpsHXt (use 10% off coupon code: WORKINVR) Video about VR-Rock Lenses: ua-cam....
Immersed - Feature Demos - AI Generated 360° Photos
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Immersed - Everyday is Special
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I've been using Immersed full time for work for years now, and it never gets old! Nothing special about this video... except that, with Immersed, every day is special! Interested in the new Immersed headset? Check out visor.com/ Use my referral code to save anywhere from $20 to $50 on your headset: visor.com/?r=78a67d6e77033b Want to join me in VR? Check out immersed.com/ Want to learn more? Ch...
Immersed - Should I buy a Quest 3?
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Meta recently released their next generation consumer grade headset: the Quest 3. After using the headset for about a month, I share my thoughts about what it's like to use this device specifically in Immersed for productive work in VR. At the end of the video, I share my suggestions on whether or not you should buy one. Links: Quest 3 Halo-style Head Strap (that I didn't like): a.co/d/3EJybMl ...
Immersed - Traveling with VR
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With Immersed, you can work with your friends and teammates from all over the world with up to 5 massive screens in fantastical environments. But what happens when you have to go on a business trip? Easy!... just take it with you! In this video, I show a quick sample of what it's like to travel with your VR gear so you can take your other-worldly work environment with you! NOTE: Sorry about the...
Immersed - Tips & Tricks - Clear App Cache
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These "Tips & Tricks" videos demonstrate little things I've learned that either fix a problem or help me work more efficiently in Immersed. In this video, I show you how to clear the Immersed application cache. This is not necessary very often (if ever), but if you have a persistent issue and restarting doesn't fix it, you can try clearing your app cache! Interested in the new Immersed headset?...
Immersed - Tips & Tricks - Move Screens Around
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These "Tips & Tricks" videos demonstrate little things I've learned that either fix a problem or help me work more efficiently in Immersed. In this video, I remind you of how easy it is to move your screens around. So easy, in fact, that I encourage you to move your screens around while you work! Interested in the new Immersed headset? Check out visor.com/ Use my referral code to save anywhere ...
Immersed - Environment Exploration - Members Only Lounge
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These "Environment Exploration" videos are deeper dives into the various environments that are available in Immersed. In these videos, I'll show some examples of where you might sit and how you might organize your screens for productive work. I'll also explore any ambient sounds for the environment or possible external background sounds. This environment is the "Members Only Lounge", a futurist...
Immersed - Tips & Tricks - Disabling Hands
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These "Tips & Tricks" videos demonstrate little things I've learned that either fix a problem or help me work more efficiently in Immersed. In this video, I demonstrate how to disable your hands (if you're using hand tracking). To reduce the frustration of accidentally moving or resizing your screens, always keep your hands disabled unless you're actively/intentionally manipulating the screens ...
VR 9 to 5 - Episode 2 Summary - The Good, the Bad, and the Beta!
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VR 9 to 5 is an unscripted podcast where we discuss what it's like to work in VR full time. In this summary video, we discuss the good (like community), the bad (like onboarding friction) and the beta (like spider hands). 0:00 - Introduction 0:57 - Why do we do this? 1:18 - The "beta" - spider hands! 1:29 - Focusverse 2:33 - Writing a novel in VR 3:24 - Coaching neurodiverse leaders in VR 4:00 ...
Immersed - Phenomenal Cosmic Screens, Itty Bitty Working Space
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With Immersed, you can have an office the size of a massive underground cavern... tucked into the corner of your 1-bedroom apartment! Here is a (non-affiliate) link to the keyboard riser I use: amazon.com/dp/B09YXRJQT8 Interested in the new Immersed headset? Check out visor.com/ Use my referral code to save anywhere from $20 to $50 on your headset: visor.com/?r=78a67d6e77033b Want to join me in...
Immersed - DND & Ghosts!
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Immersed recently released two features which truly elevate the co-working experience in the Public rooms: Do Not Disturb, and Ghost Screens. In this video, I talk about why these features matter and I demonstrate what they look like. 0:00 Introduction 0:25 DND Explanation 1:47 Ghost Screens Explanation 3:55 Demo in Immersed 5:20 Wrap Up Interested in the new Immersed headset? Check out visor.c...
VR 9 to 5 - Episode 1 Summary
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VR 9 to 5 is an unscripted podcast where we discuss what it's like to work in VR full time. In this inaugural video, we focus on how we all found VR for work. We also discuss some unexpected surprises along the way. 0:00 - Introduction 1:54 - Topic Introduction 2:41 - Ptom's Article: workingfrom.space/ 3:41 - The Public Rooms 4:40 - Writing in VR: medium.com/@michaelaewirtz 5:15 - The Social Si...
Immersed - Quest Pro Comfort Mods
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Out of the box, the Meta Quest Pro is surprisingly uncomfortable to wear for extended periods of time. So much so, that I doubt Meta employees ever tried to wear the headset for an entire work day. If they had, surely more attention would have been paid to comfort. The good news is that, with a few small modifications (and $125), you can make the headset much more comfortable. In this video, I ...
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I had no clue about this. thanks for sharing the workaround.
@@CarnisChampion You bet!
I got got a quest 3, moved up from quest 2, downloaded immersed, watched a few instruction videos beforehand, a problem I've run into is the 3 VR screens aren't independent of one another, I have 1, 2, 3 screens set up from left to right, going off my real life laptop, I click a folder in the middle screen and it pops open on the left screen, I click itunes on the right screen and it opens on the middle screen etc. This can't be right can it? kinda defeats the purpose. Also, can you position the screens freely and get them off that cursed grid? I move a screen off the grid then try position it where I want, if it comes too close to the grid, it snaps back in place, this is very annoying, can you truly go free form in how you position them? Thanks
Hi there! You can position your screens as you want them in VR, then go into display settings on Windows to match the spatial configuration. For example, the left screen on the left, the right screen on the right, etc. whenever you open a new app, I don't know what the logic is for which screen the app appears on. That's a Windows thing. But once your app is open, you can drag it to whichever screen you like and it will stay there. For the positioning the screens as you describe, it sounds like you want to turn off SnapGrid from the main settings on the Immersed menu. When SnapGrid is turned off, you can position the screens anywhere you like.
@@WorkInVRthanks a lot, I will dive deeper 👍🏻🤟 cheers
Hi. This is the build in effect?
Hi there! This is an older video, so the UI is different now, but you can still get this experience.
Nice hands - you should model!
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For your quest 3, what about a charging dock. I have an anker one for my quest 2 that works great, but they don't appear to make one for quest 3. Hope to see you in the workrooms chat one day! Thanks for the vids.
I don't have a dock for my Quest 3. I use the Bobo VR S3 head strap: www.bobovr.com/products/s3-pro So when not in use, I pop off the battery and plug it in. When I'm ready to use it, it just snaps in place. So it's not exactly a dock, but it is similar. Funny you should mention Workrooms! I was in the Workrooms Community meet up today! Recently I've been using Workrooms for solo work.
@@WorkInVR I was there as well but got in a little late and had to drop. I'll keep an eye out for you next time. Noticed your name on the global map second page (I'm on that one too) that I went to and clicked through to your link here. I have the bobovr headset for my quest 2 and the anker docking station...works great just dropping the headset and controllers it in there when done, no cables. The two batteries for the bobo are obviously super handy.
@@rpetec Awesome! Love it!
You saved my life with this! I was trying it while looking at my palms instead of the back of my hand >_<
Awesome! I'm glad this was helpful for you!
This is amazing!!!!! Thank you!!!!
You bet!
This is probably a showstopper for me. I have one power cable running to the monitor with an internal hub, and one USB-C from the laptop to the monitor. All the other peripherals I need are plugged into the monitor and I'll be damned if I buy another USB-C powered hub. Oh well,... I am about to rent Meta Quest 3 to see if I will like it for sim racing (Assetto Corsa). And after reading about other uses of VR came across Immersed. I was totaly excited about the upcoming Visor. But I suppose it will not happen. Anyway, there's possibly a way to patch the excutable; search for "Immersed - Multiple Physical Monitors Detected Patch (v13)". BTW, the magnetic USB-C cables are probably a bad idea. They do not conform to the USB-C standard, and may be responsible for damage to ports and equipment hosting these ports.
Hey whats the name of this home ?
This is "The Lord of the Rings - The Ring of Power - Khazad-dûm". It's one of the standard, available virtual environments. Enjoy!
Nah screw these guys at Immersed. I'm done with supporting them. They had a great concept that was seamless and easy to use and i was prepared to ignore the level of jank the app STILL had after this long and the basic QOL issues they still hadn't managed to fix..... but this change is too damned annoying to put up with. Renji is a moron. If their vision is a future free from locking people down then why did they create a problem for many that requires more physical hardware. Other apps out there allow you to have multiple physical monitors even if they don't virtualize them. It would have been easy for immersed to do the same. Then his point about this freeing up developer time. Again. Other apps have figured this out. How incompetent or under resourced is his team? What else are they struggling with. Given that there are still countless QOL issues that still exist despite people flagging them for years now its clear they are struggling but why? How are they going to even support thier Vizor if basic support to ignore multiple monitors built into the app was causing enough of a concern for Renji to just scrap it lol. Seriously. This change has annoyed me enough to stop using the app and discard any interest in the visor. If they are willing to make a change as disruptive as this without providing a sensible solution then who knows what else they will mess up. I've moved over to using the latest Beta of Virtual Desktop which offers multiple virtual screens and doesn't freak out if you have multiple physical monitors (so no idea why the geniuses at Immersed couldn't figure out how to make their app work regardless of how many physical monitors you have) I was all in on Immersed and was using it pretty frequently. I was also eying up their visor. Virtual monitors are the future as far as i'm concerned but Immersed has just dropped out of the race.
I'm sorry you feel that way. I understand your frustration. I really do. Often, this is the price of being an early adopter of bleeding edge technology. However, I don't think it's necessary to insult Renji and the team. If you want to give up on them and their product, I completely understand. But insults are unnecessary. I've tried using Virtual Desktop as well, but I struggled to figure out how to get it to deal with my IRL screens. Even if it ignores them and I spawn new virtual screens, it seemed like apps on the IRL monitors were inaccessible. But I probably just need to play with it some more. I've messed with Remote Display. It works well, but is only one screen. Horizon Workrooms seems to handle my IRL monitors flawlessly, so I've been working in there a lot as well. Personally, I'm not giving up on Immersed, but I understand your frustration. Hang in there! All this technology will continue to get better!
hey dave. looking all over the place for a feature i thought i was able to activate few months ago. i want to be able to lock all my 5 screens in relation to each other and move them around together. any idea how i can do that? thanks for the awesome content you put out!
i'm able to do it but not in a customized way. pretty sure i was able to customize the configuration and move all the screens together at some point before
Hi there - the only way Immersed allows you to move screens around and resize them together as a group is if you use their SnapGrid feature. Personally, I don't use that because I like the more fine-tuned, granular control of moving the screens independently. But if you want to move them together, you have to put them in the SnapGrid.
@@WorkInVR thanks for the response! god bless!
one more question. i use 5 screens and i keep having these glitches where some screens end up mirrored. so 1 and 2 will end up the same screen or 4 & 5 will end up the same, and they'll glitch from what should be there to the mirrored screens. i then usually disconnect and reconnect which sometimes solves the problem but today i've disconnected and reconnected to my mac like 10 times and problem has persisted. any advice as to how i can address this? thanks in advance!
@@firestarter_88 Hmmmm... I've never experienced that. However, I'm running Windows. Have you tried saving your slots? Get everything set up, then hit save on whatever slot you're in in settings. See if that locks it in. If not, I'd try the Mac Help channel on the Immersed Discord. Sorry I don't have a better answer. 😞
I have a Tower PC with a graphics card that has 2 HDMI out ports. Anyone got any ideas for the switch I need to make immersed think I only have 1 IRL monitor again?
Hmmmm... no idea. I'd be interested if you find a solution.
@@WorkInVR I had a Smart Plug laying around, so I plugged the monitor into the Smart Plug. Now I just have to say "Alexa, turn off monitor" and it cuts power to the 2nd IRL Monitor. I don't love this solution, but it'll work for now.
@@darins Great way to make lemonade from lemons! 👍
Erh, no. Simply no. I'm glad you could find a workaround that is solving the issue for you personally, but with this update, the devs effectively bricked the software to people with multiple displays setups that are mounted or not easily accessible because they couldn't be bothered to figure out the software they sell. In a nutshell they dumped their inability to deal with a software issue, to the lap of the customer and made it a you-problem. I admire your patience and willingness to deal with it. :D
I feel ya. This is a frustrating change for me too. They definitely made it a "you-problem" for sure. But I think they strategically did that because they had to make tough decisions with the limited resources they have as a start up. I don't like it, but I get it. It sucks, and I totally understand if many users migrate away from Immersed because of this. I'll stick with them, but I don't like it. 😕
@@WorkInVR I respect your position, and it is a perfectly valid approach. For me personally however, that doesn't work. I bought Immersed back in 2022, for occasional use. However, with the exception of one case each time when I would have needed to use it in a hurry, it needed an update to function or an update caused some complication and each time I had to spend hours if not days jumping through hoops. For me as end user of an utility software, the way immersed is operating is unpredictable and unreliable. The few times I managed to use it, didn't worth the time, effort nor the cost. It is 2024, it shouldn't be the customer's job to find workarounds for issues created by the developers. If they are under funded or under staffed, that is a management problem, which is again, shouldn't be a problem for the customer to handle and it is hardly reason enough to be left with an essentially bricked software. They should dial back ambition, and figure things out in house to provide a stable product before aiming for higher ground.
If you disable the other monitors is much easier. This seems overly complicated.
Unfortunately, disabling monitors does not work. They must be physically unplugged. It looks like it will work because when you disable them, the Immersed error goes away. However, in Immersed when you try to connect, it doesn't work. 😭
@@WorkInVR My deepest apologies. You are right! I didn't try connecting. In my case, somehow the Immersed Agent re-enables my second monitor. I have stopped using Immersed for the meantime.
@@Adrurs No worries at all. I still love Immersed, but this is an unfortunate situation. Many people have stopped using Immersed because of it. I hope they find a solution soon.
Very easy listening and thoughtful. You reemind me of Olli (I think Huttonen is his last name) who does stuff on photogrammetry, Gussian Splatting etc. from Finland. Also very pleasant.
Awwwww - thank you so much! ❤
Great presentation, thank you. My second monitor gave up recently and the problem thus solved itself 🙂 But I do see how there is still a need for psysical monitors for other people. Have the Visor on order, excited to see how it can help
I can't wait to get my Visor as well!
Great video and very reasonable response. Once that announcement came out I got rid of my external displays and uninstalled better display to get used to the setup sooner and it hasn’t been as bad as I expected (other than resolutions, I had better clarity with better display). I know it is a pain, but I prefer apps that recognize when they need to cut losses and trim down so they can double down on the core. Hopefully this results in more wins down the road for them.
Great perspective. Great things are coming with the Visor!
I normally run my extra monitors in Duplicate mode on my PC so they all act as the main, would I still have to disconnect the others?
Yes. Unfortunately if the Immersed agent detects a monitor plugged in at all, it will not connect. Very frustrating.
Good tip! Windows users can access display settings >> Advanced display settings >> Choose display dropdown >> toggle ‘Remove display from desktop’ to manage their displays without hardware changes. Reverse the steps to enable each display for Windows detection.
Thank you so much for this comment! Unfortunately it appears that this does not work. The agent software turns green and the warning goes away, but then when you log into immersed it just spins and spins and the screens never come up. If that method actually works for you and you can get all the way in and see your multiple screens, that is fantastic!
Hi thank you for work btw can I ask what are you using for HDMI hub?
Hi there - I'm using this Dell docking station: a.co/d/gK3dDw9 However, please note that I'm using two display cables, not hdmi.
Nice fix but I will wait until things are fixed
I get ya! 👍
@WorkInVR Appreciate your work around. Again, work around, not, reach around 🤘
7:15 - I understand Renji's hard choice he had to make, and I still love Immersed; but I'm shocked at how much friction this approach caused for so many users. If the displays were simply ignored, I could buy the "future free from locking down to physical workstations" thing. But right now, it feels like I'm in a Tesla driving up to a non-Tesla charger and my charging port stays locked because of that, or something. I don't expect them to engineer around my specific use case, but I honestly feel like I'm being pushed toward Workrooms (imo a slightly inferior product) due to now having to essentially disconnect my charging source to initiate an app. I run a MBP in a vertical stand to save on space, which means my two external monitors (plugged directly via USB-C) are my power source _and_ my default screen. So to get Immersed going, I'd have to run headless, hope my laptop doesn't immediately go to sleep, run on battery until either my MBP dies or my Q3 dies (certainly not a workday's worth of time in either case), then reach through my workspace to reconnect everything to get going again afterward. Or, I can have a max of 3 monitors that have fixed display ratios and slightly worse audio and simply treat the software like software. I don't know... It now kind of sucks either way.
As far as I remember, Immersed doesn't have display emulation available on Linux, only mirroring physical displays. Does that mean that now, on Linux, it is physically impossible to have more than one screen in Immersed? And yes, despite all the valid arguments, I personally find this decision very stupid and Windows- or Apple-like when they just decide that a certain feature is not needed anymore and just block it out. That is certainly not what they've ben asked to do: the community asked to give a choice between using physical screens or not - and they just chose themselves. More to say, sometimes it can make sense mirroring physical monitors - for example if you'd like to show something to someone approaching you IRL. Like, my wife wants me to show her the latest utility bill - so now I'll have to disconnect the headset, plig in the displays, show whatever I need and then do vice versa - makes no sense, really
For Linux, there are no virtual screens in Immersed, but you can still have as many physical screens as you like (i.e. primary Linux laptop + two IRL physical monitors == 3 screens in Immersed). It's only Windows and Mac that can no longer bring in physical monitors. And I totally agree with your example of showing your wife something. This *exact* thing happened to me today. It was super annoying. 😞
I believe my main (laptop) screen still displays while I’m in immersed. If that works, she could still see what you want to show.
@@stateportSound_wav correct, it does. Still makes absolutely no sense when developers intentionally disable features that work already, making their users search for workarounds. Lucky for them, they don't have real competitors yet.
Very weird decision. If it is really about engineers they could just disable external monitors and add an ability to choose which one you want to see in VR. It is not a technical restriction at all. I have a daisy chaining DP connection, meaning, my second monitor is connected directly to the first one, I don't have any hubs. Working with physical monitors allows you to jump between VR and real. You can exit Immersed anytime and continue working on the same monitors with the same windows open on the same position as in VR. Moreover, physical monitors always were more performant for me than virtual ones. Virtual monitor sometimes have glitches, super high latency and etc. while physical monitor in VR just worked.
I agree to all! Immersed is saying that it is a technical restriction. Many, like you, have thought that to be a poor reason. Even my work around is less than ideal as it will clump all apps onto a single screen when switching, forcing you to reposition everything once your virtual screens are up. This makes switching between VR and real more difficult. 😞
The CEO said that he can't allow this feature because people would enable it and then experience a performance hit, so they removed it entirely. It's quite a wild take from someone who tries to sell hardware to the same user group. Also, he mentioned that those of us who experience problems represent just 5% of users, which amounts to only 50,000 users. But I think that 50,000 sales of a visor would not be considered a flop... I don't know. It's just weird. Why did they give us this option in the first place? I spend so much money on hardware (Quest 3, a router to reduce latency, power supplies, lens inserts, etc.) to make this free app work, and I am tired of losing functionality and seeing no measurable improvements in quality or latency. The worst part is, I was editing videos just fine one day, and then the next day, while troubleshooting, I received a response saying it was my fault for not keeping up with announcements from Immersed. I use it as a productivity app to be more productive, not to read through every piece of news that comes out. Imagine if Microsoft suddenly supported only displaying one Word page on the screen. I think that would be a productivity hit. I’m not saying that it's easy to develop such software, but they could at least give me the option to use an older version, enable features at my own risk, or let me pay for it. Sending a sneaky disable to previous versions to force an update... I don’t know. That just doesn’t sit right with me.
"I received a response saying it was my fault for not keeping up with announcements from Immersed. " Yup. The arrogance shown by the company almost *blaming the user* for not reading some obscure thread buried on their Discord says all I need to know about the company. I think a lot of people suffer from sunk cost fallacy when it comes to Immersed. I don't, and I have no problem moving on to something else .
Does turning off the extra monitor(s) not work for everyone else? All I needed to do was hit the power button on my extra monitor, launched Immersed and was able to connect without any issues
Yes. People are reporting that works as well. So, instead of having to have a second dock (like I demonstrated in my video), you could simply hit the power button on your monitors or plug your monitors into a switched power strip and flip that switch before getting into Immersed.
So I'm confused, can Immersed have multiple monitors on one PC anymore? I needed to have dummy HDMI dongles on my graphics cards so I could have multiple monitors on a single PC. I don't have multiple monitors in my physical space anyway but in immersed I'd have at last two on the computer that was tethered to my headset.
With this new update, you cannot have any extra physical monitors IRL. So, if your computer or laptop just has one single primary screen, then you can now connect to Immersed. Once you're in Immersed, you can spawn up to 4 virtual screens, bringing your total of possible screens in Immersed up to 5. The problem comes when you have extra physical monitors IRL. That is what they are now disallowing. So, if you have extra/additional physical monitors IRL, you now have to disconnect them before you're allowed to connect to your computer in Immersed.
I came here with pitchforks and torches, and dude talked me off the ledge.
🤣 Glad to have helped! Make no mistake, I'm not super happy about this either... but I also understand it's tough for the team. Even though I don't like the decision they made, I trust them that they're doing what they think is best to survive and thrive. I would probably be much more skeptical if I didn't know them. But I've worked alongside these guys for three years. They're the real deal and working hard with extremely limited resources. This sucks, but I still believe in them! Glad you're not on the ledge any longer! 😆
Interesting. Nice Workaround. It seems like it should be fairly easy to find a USB-C "switch" or power button that could do something similar instead of having to yank out the magnetic cord. Then again, it's just magnetic, so it's about as easy as a switch. This is not the end of the world. Not ideal, but just deal with it, everyone. haha! More importantly, I think we all are desperate for any details about WHEN the actual Visor will ship. Maybe I'm just anxious to get started, but it feels like we all have been waiting forever with no real timeline. In your conversations with Rijay, have you gotten any general feel as to when we should expect them?
Agreed all the way around! 100%! Sadly, Renji hasn't given me any insider information. The latest word (directly from Renji) is "mid-2024". Well... here we are in May, so I'm hoping sometime over the next 3 months or so! 🙏
@@WorkInVR Yea, a few friends and I are waiting to hear from the first few who receive theirs. We have not pre-ordered yet. Just want to make sure it's legit first. I look forward to your introduction videos as soon as you get yours, sir. :) I always appreciate your insights.
@@CoreyCreed You got it! 😊
So no more external displays on immersed, but can I still have virtual monitors in the app?
Yes, absolutely. When you disconnect your IRL monitors and enter the app, you can add up to 4 additional virtual screens (depending on your plan), for a total of 5 screens in VR. It's pretty awesome!
this approach is not supported for my work laptop. Nice video by the way. This app is getting only focus in their hardware. If this is their goal. than maybe in the future they didn't even update the quest app. because they will have their custome OS to focus (unless the use Horizon OS). So, for now, Im going to use Immersed ONLY for remote work. If I work from home, I'll just use my external monitor and that's it.
Makes sense. I bet you're right.
Can you try realtimesoft ultramon with a shortcut to detach connected monitors?
Several people have tried software alternatives, to no avail. I personally tried "Windows Key + P" and DisplayFusion several times yesterday with no luck. Other people on the Immersed Discord tried the "multi-monitor tool": www.nirsoft.net/utils/multi_monitor_tool.html All with the same results... no one can connect. If Realtime Soft UltraMon actually works for you, please let me know!! 🙏
Frustrations aside...Thank you for a feasible workaround and your advocacy in the Immersed community!
You bet! Thank you for your kind words!
Good video and nice work around for a laptop. For desktops, if your graphics card supports it, you can set your monitors to span or surround and behave as a single display. After the interactions we had with the CEO in discord yesterday, and a bunch of us getting banned, I have a lot less confidence in this companying going forward. Despite the vision, Immersed is still an office productivity suite. One whose CEO came on discord and told his target customer set that they aren't worth his development team's time to support. What is telling is that the general desktop population is almost 15% multi-monitor set-up, laptops are just under 5% multi-monitor. I'm sure that percentage goes up when you look specifically at home and corporate offices. The Immersed CEO said multiple monitor set-ups were only 5% of their over-all user set, which means they are getting poor adoption from their target customer set, probably because the software, five years after release, is still clunky and requires fiddling with to get working (sometimes actually requires a Meta Developer account and using a third-party tool to clear out some specific Meta app data settings). Basically, their target customer, the ones who will use the app daily as a productivity tool and buy the in-app QoL features are not staying with the app because it simply consumes too much time troubleshooting.
Immersed just pushed out new updates to their desktop agent and VR app. They no longer support users with multiple monitors. You have to physically unplug everything except your primary monitor or the Agent will give you a big red text warning message and won't let you connect. They did this intentionally because they say multiple monitors are too much work to support. This is office productivity suite software whose CEO came on discord and told his target customer set that they aren't worth his development team's time to support. What is telling is that the general desktop population is almost 15% multi-monitor set-ups, laptops are just under 5% multi-monitor. I'm sure that percentage goes up when you look specifically at home and corporate offices. The Immersed CEO said multiple monitor set-ups were only 5% of their over-all user set, which means they are getting poor adoption from their target customer set, probably because the software is clunky and requires fiddling with to get working (sometimes actually requires a Meta Developer account and using a third-party tool to clear out some specific Meta app data settings). Basically, their target customer, the ones who will use the app daily as productivity tool and buy the in-app QoL features are not staying with the app because it simply consumes too much time trouble shooting. And if you pointed out the failed logic in their interpretation of the data, they banned you from Discord and erased the conversation. Me thinks they are having investor trouble.
Honestly, there's no way to defend that. They took a big step back. They destroyed something that worked well. The virtual world does not exist without the real one. Not everyone can or wants to physically connect and disconnect their screens... Does anyone know what happened to Discord? It seems to me that criticism is prohibited too.
Looks like this was an accidental duplicate post. Please see my reply in your other post. Thanks!
Honestly, there's no way to defend that. They took a big step back. They destroyed something that worked well. The virtual world does not exist without the real one. Not everyone can or wants to physically connect and disconnect their screens... Does anyone know what happened to Discord? It seems to me that criticism is prohibited too.
I agree this is a big step back. Just so you know, I'm not defending this at all. I expressed a great deal of frustration to Renji personally and I posted that I'm not happy about this on the Discord. So I know they aren't prohibiting criticism there. However, I agree they can be a bit heavy-handed with the ban-button over there. I'm not trying to defend that either. What I AM trying to do is share with others, a method I found to reduce my friction in getting in and out of Immersed without giving up my IRL monitors in the hope that this could help others. I agree with you... IRL and VR are intertwined and I feel that companies like Immersed should make the transition between the worlds as seamless as possible. This is a huge step backward in that regard, for sure. 😞
lol criticism is definitely not prohibited people talk shit out of their ass all the time on there
I just went into my display settings and changed the "Extend desktop to this display" dropdown to "Disconnect this display" for each of my monitors and that worked fine. Is that not an option for everyone else? Seems like a much easier solution than adding more devices and making physical changes to a setup.
That has not yet worked for anyone. The error message on the agent goes away and it looks like you can connect, but inside Immersed, it won't connect to your computer. Have you tried actually connecting in Immersed (not just seeing the agent error message change)? Multiple people (including me) have tried that with no luck.
@@WorkInVR Yeah. That was the first thing I did when I saw the message and it worked. I had access to my primary monitor and one virtual display immediately. It took about 10 minutes for another virtual display to be added though as it kept popping up a virtual loading screen, which disappeared and reappeared several times before it finally stuck. I'll try it again right now to confirm then report back.
Yup. I just disconnected my physical displays in the display settings, hopped onto Immersed, and immediately had my primary physical monitor and three virtual displays all working.
@@KevStormJ Amazing! I'll continue to experiment with this. I tried with "Windows Key + P" and DisplayFusion several times yesterday with no luck. Other people on the Immersed Discord tried the "multi-monitor tool": www.nirsoft.net/utils/multi_monitor_tool.html All with the same results... no one can connect. I would love for you to share your setup/findings on the Immersed Discord in the #watercooler channel! I don't know what it is about your system that is allowing this to work, but lucky you!!
@@WorkInVR The problem I'm having with this method, and the same thing happens regardless of disabling the displays in the graphics card control panel or in the OS display settings, is that once the headset app tries to connect, the headset app overrides both my OS and my graphics cards settings and reenables the monitors that I had just disable. I tried clearing app data, but no help, same behavior. Thoughts?
This is a great video. it shows a work around to a problem that is out of his control and HOPEFULLY gets people to think critcally about a situation. I agree there should have been a work around that just blanks out external monitors instead of throwing errors but we dont know what dev it would take for any of this. I will say having one monitor on a desktop is the reason i got a quest 3 and immersed makes my time working in vr that much better. We need more critical thinkers before we get out the pitchforks. On a side note, what is that usb c docking station and power/data cable you are using?
Thank you so much for the kind words! I appreciate you very much!! ❤ The USB-C dock I use is this one: a.co/d/7OAZW2D It's only $30 and it works great! My headset stays charged at 100% all day and in USB wired mode!
@@WorkInVR no problem, thanks for taking your time out to explain these. do you ever find theres an improvement in staying connected vs wifi? i was hoping staying connected would improve (non-vr) game stutter but it didnt
@@coreyr9983 Yeah, by any measure, Immersed isn't great for gaming. I've never heard good things from gamers about gaming in Immersed. It's not their focus with the app. But for productive work in Immersed, using wired mode has less lag than WiFi by definition. By the mechanics of how that works, it will have the same or less lag. However, I rarely get a perceivable difference in lag between the two. Since I like to keep my headset tethered for constant power, it was very easy for me to simply plug into the USB-C dock instead of plugging into a power brick. In this way, I get the benefit of wired mode, even though WiFi has always worked perfectly fine for me. So it's a: "not needed, but might as well do it" kind of thing.
This is the first time I have been disappointed with Immersed. It is unfortunate that I now have to add even more hardware to my setup and/or go through gymnastics to make Immersed work. Not to mention that every time I unplug my monitors, the windows all get thrown to the main display and I have to reset the positioning of everything each time I go into Immersed. I will not stop using Immersed, but it is disappointing that they have gone the “Apple” route and just made some crazy decision that requires me to have even more stuff on my desktop in order to be able to use their product. Dave, this is a great workaround, thanks for sharing it.
I totally agree that all the apps getting thrown onto the primary display is yet another irritant. This one is a tough pill to swallow for sure. I'm glad my workaround can help your workflow!
Yeah, I'm not going along with this regressive, user-antagonistic change for the sake of the company. The arrogance of an app telling you to unplug your own hardware is galling. Clearly they're doing this in the interest of their bottom line because so many people use virtual dongles to get around the screen limit of the basic tier. I uninstalled Immersed today and will use Horizons Workrooms instead. The devs for that app don't seem to have a problem supporting external displays.
I totally get it. You're not alone. I'm irritated by this too. But I am hopeful that this video can help those of us who are willing to keep using Immersed despite this change.
You could also use vSpatial as an Immersed alternative.
Only problem is Workrroms Devs are killing the whiteboare, some room layout and the web chat at the end of the month. We dont know what all the changes will be.
Not happy about the changes but I doubt its about the virtual dongles. They are basically giving immersed pro away
@@styxmc70 Agreed. 👀
Awesome video Dave. Waited so long for a new upload. 😊 Here you are. Eagerly waiting for your Visor review when it arrives 🤞
Thanks so much!!
Unfortunately the latest agent ruins Immersed for anyone who has multiple physical monitors. Not only does it not show multiple physical monitors inside the app, it straight up tells you to unplug them rather than showing one physical and x virtual. Was using it just fine with two physical and two virtual prior. There's also allegations they're removing any posts pointing this out/critical of this from their official subreddit and Discord
So, I've bought a backpack - Caselogic Bryker: a.co/d/25dxkWg There are small, medium and large models - I've got the large one. It has a large front compartment which is very customizable using the removable pads with velcro straps. So along with the headset I was able to make small compartments for the peripherals: battery, controllers, laptop charger, headphones and mouse. It also has a laptop pocket which was just enough for my Lenovo T14s, but it's quite tight and I believe anything larger than 14"-15" won't fit in. I've made a picture of my layout: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0wry6zc2vb8xphbbjevik/bryker.jpg?rlkey=49htmbzf5ca3vupo88xehspte&st=caj2vlr1&dl=0 I quite often have to drive my daughter to her classes and wait here working remotely. With this BoboVR strap the headset becomes very large and hard to carry (with the native headstrap it fitted into my slim laptop backpack - but it was hard to close). So with BoboVR I had to take a second bag to carry the headset and I preferred rather leaving it at home. Now I'll try this one.
Awesome! Thank you for sharing this!! ❤
Love the video Dave! :) Quick question re: the lens inserts. Do you find that the mount stays on and that its pretty secure? The VR Wave lenses that I got for QPro is really bad at staying on and its difficult to attach.. p.s. This video is making me consider a Quest 3. Very useful!
Hey Zarelle! Yes, I put in the lens mounts and they've never come out yet. Very stable. In fact, I tend to have an opposite problem... Once the lenses snap in, they're a bit hard to get off without smudging the lenses. Very secure. But the mounts have never budged! I love the Q3, but it's not wildly better than the Pro. You may be better off waiting for the Visor!
@@WorkInVR Thanks for the confirmation Dave :) Glad you have the opposite problem. It's really a pain when the mount comes off easily. Especially when you are already in the middle of work. haha. And yes, can't wait for the Visor to come out.
Finally got my S3 Pro and AMVR facial interface. The problem I found - the AMVR facial interface has a large blend on top, which hits the forehead part of S3 headsstrap (the one where the fan is placed) - making to keep the headset in the lowest position possible. Have you had a same problem?
Yes, the way I have mine set up is that the forehead piece of the S3 touches the facial interface. I put the back piece of the S3 as low as possible, keeping the "halo" portion of the S3 as round and flat as possible. I've seen a lot of people "bend the halo" and have the back piece of the S3 up high on the back of their head. I think that is much less comfortable. I loosen the halo and flatten it out, pushing the back of the S3 back as low as possible. I typically wear a fitted ballcap on backwards as well, so the back of the S3 touches the brim of the cap. Then, I tighten the halo so it's nice and snug (but not so tight that it's uncomfortable). I've found this to be very comfortable for all day use. It's stable and lets the headset "float" perfectly in front of my eyes. Hopefully this helps you!
Where you learn this? I was trying to find this out, Chatted with my eye dr and he dismissed my idea. I’m legally blind and was sure the distance wasn’t right.
Check out: www.youtube.com/@DrEyeGuy More specifically: ua-cam.com/video/R3kr8FM2-HY/v-deo.htmlsi=BvPy0tx_Xm01f5FR Around 5:30. This eye doctor explains the vergence accommodation conflict that happens in VR and talks about the focal plane being around 4 ft. out.
When you go to an optometrist do you just tell them you need a prescription for 4' intermediate lenses?
Yes! Exactly! I told them that I wanted the prescription for approximately 3.5 to 4 ft for computer screens. I also mentioned that I was going to use that prescription for VR headset inserts. I actually got a pair of glasses using that prescription for the times when I use my computer screens IRL. I got anti-glare and anti-blue screen coatings put on those glasses. They are very useful for whenever I am outside my headset (which is not very often)!
@@WorkInVR I just got a new prescription the other day and asked for this but they said I didn't need it and the optometrist was seeing someone else just then. I have to go back to order contacts after I use these trials and I'll see if a optometrist is available to talk to. I hope I don't need to pay for another prescription! I'm getting new insurance so it would pay for it anyway. Should have just said I wanted it for computer glasses and not mentioned VR, lol.
What about using for quest 3 facial like quest pro? How good or bad is it compared to AMVR?
I definitely like the AMVR facial interface much better than the stock Quest 3 facial interface but that's a personal opinion. You or others might disagree.
Hi, what do you think of the Vision Pro, and should one get the quest 3 or vision pro? Thanks.
I have not tried the Apple Vision Pro. However, I have several friends who have them. They love them, but they are super expensive. Also, Immersed has not been released on the AVP yet. For productive work in VR, and for a fraction of the price of the AVP, I would highly recommend the Quest 3.