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Apocrypha and the Book of Mormon, with Jonah Barnes
Meghan is joined by Jonah Barnes of Ward Radio to discuss his new book "Key to the Keystone." Topics include:
- Joseph Smith's example of truth-finding
- Being tethered to the Book of Mormon
- Patterns of historical corruption by scribes
- The contents of the brass plates
- The wisdom of Eve
Jonah Barnes is a dad, and also a bicycle mechanic, a human jungle-gym, a boo-boo kisser, a diaper-changer (he prefers "diaper mechanic"), a children's book text-to-voice converter, a dog-walker, a chauffeur, a self-appointed assistant soccer coach, a volunteer cheerleader, a s'more-roasting consultant, a vacuum cleaner-cleaner and a scary-bug smasher.
Also he wrote this book, the Key to the Keystone: How Apocryphal Texts Unlock the Book of Mormon's Brass Plates.
"Consider Yourself As Eve: A Guide to Spiritual Development for Women (and the Men Who Love Them" will be available for pre-order in October 2024!
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Training for Translation: Reviewing "Foreordinations" by Robert Charlton, with Lauralee Gines
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Meghan is joined by Lauralee Gines to discuss the recently released book, "Foreordinations: Fulfilling Our End-Times Missions for Jesus Christ," by Robert J. Charlton. Topics Include: - Preparing to Meet Christ - Translation and Translated beings - The Process of Becoming Translated - Healing Ourselves and Our Families - Journey of Individual Ascension "The Great Awakening is taking place all a...
Divinely Feminine Covenants & Ordinances | In Her Image with Meghan Farner
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Enjoy Meghan as a guest on the In Her Image podcast! Topics include: - Finding the Divine Feminine in Hebrew Writings - Temple and Lived Ordinances - Priesthood and Priestesshood - Being "Born in the Covenant" - Women as a Tower Sign up to receive notifications on the release of Meghan's book, "Consider Yourself as Eve: A Guide to Spiritual Development for Women (and the Men Who Love Them)" sha...
Discovering Your Personal Mission, with Katie Hansen
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Meghan is joined by Katie Hansen to discuss key principles to develop a love of learning, and to specifically learn our individual missions. Topics include: - The Meaning of Co-Mission - Love of God = Love of Learning - Asking Questions - Developing an Environment of Learning - Abraham’s Life Model for Learning Check out this article for more! "Nurturing Our Families." houseofthebook.org/produc...
Sacred Synergy: Integrating Liturgical Traditions in LDS Home Worship, with Alisa Davis
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Meghan is joined by Alisa Davis, a writer for LDD's Honey Lilies blog, to discuss the imprints of other Christian traditions on her LDS worship. Topics Include: - Becoming Comfortable with the Unknown - "Repetitious" Prayers - Rooting Out Unhealthy Cultural Traditions - Salvation based on knowledge vs faith - Cultivating Sacred Spaces and Time - Beautifying Worship Alisa is a convert to the Chu...
Clothed in Grace: Living the Temple Garment
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In this solo episode, Meghan covers the following topics: - Symbol vs. Reality - The Creation of the Coats of Skins - Cutting Covenant & Marks in the Garment - How to "Put On Christ" - The Garment as Aspirational Enroll in "House of Learning: Understanding the Doctrine of the Temple" today with code GARMENT and receive 50% off!! lddisciplesacademy.thinkific.com/courses/House-of-Learning-Int-Tem...
Balance & Contrast in God & Art, with Jordan Ring Sakabe
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Meghan is joined by Catholic artist Jordan Ring-Sabake for a fantastic interfaith discussion! Topics include: - The experience of spiritual rebirth - Teaching our children the gospel through our talents and gifts - Living the Higher Law - The importance of contrast and balance - The value of sacrifice Based in Saratoga Springs, Utah, Jordan is a Christian artist whose journey from atheism to fa...
"Righteous" Idols, with Connor Boyack
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Meghan is joined by author of the Tuttle Twins libertarian book series and host of Sunday Musings on UA-cam, Connor Boyack, to discuss forms of "righteous" idolatry. Topics include: - How to embody and live the Gospel of Jesus Christ in our everyday lives - Going beyond the scriptures as a historical account - False traditions in "Mormon" culture - Counseling with the Lord in all our doing - Wh...
Media and Social Engineering Part 2, with Lily Corona-Guerrero
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Meghan is again joined by Lily Corona-Guerrero to further discuss the influences of media on our children's spiritual well-being. Topics include: - Identifying how Satan uses and twists the Lord’s symbols - How Satan uses media and film aimed at children - Desiring Jesus and His power - Teaching our children truth - Protecting ourselves and our families from Satan’s influence Liliana Corona Gue...
Media and Social Engineering Part 1, with Lily Corona-Guerrero
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Meghan is joined by actress and director Lily Corona-Guerrero to discuss her views of the modern film industry and the threat of media. Topics include: - Dangers of the Music and Film Industries - The Gift of Discernment - Defining Social Engineering - Protecting Our Children - Examples of Social Engineering Liliana Corona Guerrero is originally from Ensenada, Baja California- Mexico. She grew ...
The Tower in the Garden: 5 Principles of Feminine Power | Meghan Farner Keynote Address
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Keynote address given at a women's retreat on Friday, July 19th, 2024. Meghan discusses 5 principles of feminine power, shedding new light on common scriptural stories and interpretations in order to better illustrate the unavoidable worth of women. #lds #mormon #mormonwomen #ldswomen #jesusandmary #adamandeve #jesuschrist #churchofjesuschrist
The Matrimonial Order, with Gwendolyn Wyne
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Meghan is joined by Gwnedolyn Wyne to discuss her research into what she calls the "Matrimonial Order." Topics include: - Understanding Priestesshood - What is a "Help Meet" - The Ordinance of Birth - Doing vs receiving ordinances - Balance in Zion Gwendolyn Stevens Wyne is a former librarian who now writes about women’s opportunities and responsibilities in theology and culture. A native of Lo...
The New and Everlasting Covenant, Awake & Ascend Keynote by Todd McLauchlin
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Enjoy Todd McLauchlin's recent keynote address from Awake & Ascend: The Covenant of the Fathers! Miss the event? Recordings and transcriptions can be purchased at buy.stripe.com/bIYaIA7DG2Jbgyk5kq
Jesus Christ, Mary Magdalene, and the Holy Grail, with Kris Kimball
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Meghan is joined by Kris Kimball to discuss traditions of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene. Topics include: - The Missing Years of Jesus’ life - Jesus’s Ancestry - Traditions of Christ's Marriage - The ancestry of Mary Magdalene - The Condescension of God Kris Kimball is married with 3 adult children and 7 grandchildren. Kris studied at Utah State University, the University of Utah, and Cambridg...
The Law of the Gospel: A New View on the Plan of Happiness
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Enjoy Meghan's presentation from Awake & Ascend: The Covenant of the Fathers! Topics include: - The Natures of God and Intelligences - Gender as Essential to Spiritual Development - Masculine and Feminine Stewardships - Eve and Adam as Shadows of Masculine and Feminine - Living the Symbolic Temple Ordinances A Surprise Announcement!
The Doctrine of Christ, with Julia Wentzell
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The Doctrine of Christ, with Julia Wentzell
Aligning Mind, Body, & Spirit, with Candice Noss
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Aligning Mind, Body, & Spirit, with Candice Noss
The Love of the Bridegroom, with Lynda Cherry
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The Love of the Bridegroom, with Lynda Cherry
7 Elements of Ancient Covenant Ceremonies, with Donna Nielsen
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7 Elements of Ancient Covenant Ceremonies, with Donna Nielsen
True Principles From Eastern Spirituality, with Shauna Weller
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True Principles From Eastern Spirituality, with Shauna Weller
King Noah: An End-Time Type and Shadow, with Nate Higbee
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King Noah: An End-Time Type and Shadow, with Nate Higbee
Men, Women, and the Physics of Light, with Matt Russell
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Men, Women, and the Physics of Light, with Matt Russell
Magnetic Femininity, with Allie Duzett
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Magnetic Femininity, with Allie Duzett
ANNOUNCING Awake & Ascend: The Covenant of the Fathers!
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ANNOUNCING Awake & Ascend: The Covenant of the Fathers!
4 Types of Evil Spirits and What to Do About Them, with Reed Doxey
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4 Types of Evil Spirits and What to Do About Them, with Reed Doxey
Seeking the Truth About Polygamy Part 2, with Cheryl Bruno
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Seeking the Truth About Polygamy Part 2, with Cheryl Bruno
Building Zion Relationships, with Heather Linchenko
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Building Zion Relationships, with Heather Linchenko
Destroying the Divine Feminine, with Dave Butler
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Destroying the Divine Feminine, with Dave Butler
Looking Unto Christ in Every Thought, with Dennis Deaton
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Looking Unto Christ in Every Thought, with Dennis Deaton
From Shame to Grace, with Kurt Francom
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From Shame to Grace, with Kurt Francom

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  • @TheMastersHarvest
    @TheMastersHarvest 7 годин тому

    Here is the correct timeline for the Eagle prophecy: We can know "when" we are on God's prophetic calendar. It is written in the book of 2nd Esdras. Chapter 11 contains a prophecy that describes a line of American presidents, five of whom are still alive, and two of them are being kept until "the end." All of them are old men. "The end" is fast approaching. Ezra wrote Second Esdras, chapters 11, 12, and 13 many centuries ago, long before the United States existed, yet he accurately describes a line of 15 US presidents starting with Hoover. This 100-year-long prophecy began fulfilling on March 4, 1929. It is now 95% complete. Its perfect fulfillment to this point has established its credibility. Ezra was not guessing. I have condensed the prophecy into a series of short lessons - my gift to you. Please allow me to guide you through them, step by step, and into understanding. Blessings to you and your loved ones.

  • @rkdesrochers
    @rkdesrochers 13 годин тому

    Such a cool episode!! 🎉

  • @andriy457
    @andriy457 17 годин тому

    Going to disagree on one point that is not possible to become less active after truly received Holy Ghost There is actually possible to become less active without rejection of the church Some times people just give up on themselves and pick up som addiction

  • @questionsforchristians
    @questionsforchristians День тому

    Also yes eve is present when the command is given to not partake of the fruit

  • @shareephoto
    @shareephoto День тому

    This was so tender and beautiful. Thank you so much for your hard work. I agree with Richard below (about Calling and Election being something after temple sealing) and would love for you to define the marriage ceremony and sealing more (just for clarity). I would also be careful with the term “God is not disappointed.” I think that needs a bit more explanation… so not to confuse people that there are no consequences. However that being said, this presentation was absolutely wonderful, in a world where gender is being misconstrued and twisted, this presentation came as a breath of fresh air. It was so well thought through and comprehensive. I love learning Hebrew/gospel/ temple symbolism and feel you did a great job. I am excited to read your book. I was thinking throughout this entire presentation, “I would love, love to get my hands on your references for a deeper study.” Wow, thank you, thank you. I shared it with many of my friends and family.

  • @richardgenck2692
    @richardgenck2692 День тому

    Calling and Election is the final ceremony, and I'm 99.99999999% sure you have to be sealed to receive this one.

  • @jimwettstein6312
    @jimwettstein6312 2 дні тому

    In the Nemenhah records, specifically within the Relation of Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother, it states that Heavenly Father and Mother needed each other to create, and have different roles. Heavenly Father has the power to organize matter, but Heavenly Mother gives it life, and is refered to the quickener of all things. Thus Eve is the Mother of All Living (mankind, animals, plants, etc.) in the similitude of Heavenly Mother. She was named mother after Heavenly Mother, who is the eternal Mother of all living, the quickener, and this is the priesthood power given to women from before the foundations of the world, to bring lives into this mortal realm through the sacrifice and renting of their own bodies, blood, water, and deliver spirits into this world with mortal bodies. A similitude of the great sacrifice of Christ who through his sacrifice of his own body, blood, and water, the renting of the temple veil at his death, brings us new birth, new life through the resurrection into a new immortal realm when the time comes, whether it be bodies telestial, terrestrial, or celestial.

  • @jimwettstein6312
    @jimwettstein6312 2 дні тому

    So really, like a Father and Mother, you teach the principle, but it took until Eve figured it out, she pondered, thought about things, and likely through the Spirit discerned what she needed to do. Then, with divine wisdom bestowed from Heavenly Mother, she kicked off the whole plan of Happiness, and guided Adam to jump in with both feet. So, like the natives believe about the feather, the female part is wise and gives direction, while the male part doses the work and provides lift and movement.

  • @jimwettstein6312
    @jimwettstein6312 2 дні тому

    And if you want something that directly supports the Book of Mormon go read the Nemenhah Records from the Mentinah Archives. Church has it in its Church History Catalog.

  • @brokenarrow3808
    @brokenarrow3808 2 дні тому

    Jonah, Thank You! One of the first things that gave me peace, was realizing Jesus said, "Ἐγώ εἰμι ἡ ὁδὸς ( road )." For years, I thought it said, "Way." That's when the Lord explained, "Why do you think everyone has to be born. Because it's through the road ( which involves a journey: love is patient), that understanding comes. Some are born Hindu; some are born atheists. Regardless, you have to go through this journey of being exposed to harmful things, learning to live right, choose right. Fixing all this is a journey, the reason I will reign 1,000 years, another journey. Nothing ever comes instantly; there is a journey of suffering for everyone. Will you give in or give up? It's through that journey, you learn truth. Anyone who says, We have it, is a liar, because truth never stops. Creation is an ongoing process, and through creation, there is change. Commit to the journey, begin learning truth, then life comes." (edited: journey is such a big part, I forgot it means road, yet journey is what the person does on that road. Every time I become frustrated, going to court even when the Lord tells me, the judge is senile, won't rule right, but you will learn something, I have to remind myself: journey. )

  • @academyofchampions1
    @academyofchampions1 2 дні тому

    Great episode! Hannah is awesome!

  • @thewilliamlancaster
    @thewilliamlancaster 2 дні тому

    I happen to be a currently-serving bishop and, for the record, I think this podcast-and ward radio!-are great 😉

  • @ab87184
    @ab87184 2 дні тому

    I just discovered this podcast because I saw Jonah Barnes’ picture. I could listen to him every day! Love him!!!

    • @gingersnaps215
      @gingersnaps215 2 дні тому

      Just make sure you check these texts out for yourself. He says a lot of stuff I agree with, but he’s recently made a highly questionable claim that isn’t even supported by two of the texts he cited in his argument (this was verbal, not a written argument). And it didn’t seem like he checked his findings agains the BoM in that case, either, because he never once cited BoM scripture in his argument (which, again, does not seem to support his newest claim, and definitely seems to contradict his conclusion).

    • @gingersnaps215
      @gingersnaps215 2 дні тому

      I couldn’t find the other texts he was citing/I don’t read old Slavonic either. It sounded like some of the texts are available in scripture notes, but I do not have a subscription to that service. Regardless, he made a HUGE claim, and didn’t go through the texts in question or highlight the applicable verses, merely regurgitated things he remembered reading from those texts. Those who have commented with questions asking for specific citations have been met with silence on that video. As have arguments to the contrary and verses of restoration scripture to the contrary. Perhaps he’s planning another book about it and that’s why hes not entertained any contrarian comments, but it seems like somewhat sloppy scholarship on his part, to have not at least had the verses in question ready to show as he made his case.

  • @BryceCarmony
    @BryceCarmony 3 дні тому

    The book of Mormon sounds like apocryphal books because the book of Mormon is apocryphal. Joseph Smith wrote it

    • @gingersnaps215
      @gingersnaps215 2 дні тому

      How many LDS channels do you stalk..?

    • @BryceCarmony
      @BryceCarmony День тому

      @@gingersnaps215 ? I watch a couple LDS channels because I find it amusing how different it is now from when I was growing up. It's like a different religion

  • @Canut0
    @Canut0 3 дні тому

    This guy's credentials are incredible 🙏😂

  • @questionsforchristians
    @questionsforchristians 3 дні тому

    The fall is so about sex. and the serpent is A Satan lucfier is ONE of the Satans

  • @questionsforchristians
    @questionsforchristians 3 дні тому

    Also Isaiah AND the book of Mormon were commanded by the LORD for us to read and study-not just Isaiah

  • @questionsforchristians
    @questionsforchristians 3 дні тому

    Beguiled means "SEXUALLY SEDUCED" EVE was raped by a Satan.

  • @questionsforchristians
    @questionsforchristians 3 дні тому

    The ascension of Isiah speaks of a flat earth- so does the book of Enoch

  • @dotplogger7304
    @dotplogger7304 3 дні тому

    The Lord does teach “ question, even the existence of God”. When you question he will show you he is here.

  • @stephanieeastman2791
    @stephanieeastman2791 3 дні тому

    Just bought the book!! Thx Meghan for another thought provoking and enlightening podcast.

  • @CryptoSurfer
    @CryptoSurfer 3 дні тому

    “We are at the mercy of the last editor “. Well said!

  • @CMZIEBARTH
    @CMZIEBARTH 3 дні тому

    Early apostle Erastus Snow pointed out Eve having not been created at the time the commandments was given, and if I remember correctly used this point to say there's less blame on Eve. There's further light and knowledge available on this. For one, look at the difference between the questions asked of each of them. See what Adam was asked and what Eve was not asked.

  • @Goodlookingjedi
    @Goodlookingjedi 3 дні тому

    Your recent podcast with Jonah came up on my timeline... first I'd heard of you... just utterly smashed the like and subscribe buttons! Thanks for your insights.

  • @TrentSmith-m4h
    @TrentSmith-m4h 3 дні тому

    Jonah’s comments about the scribes extolling the law at the expense of the messiah reminded me of Zechariah’s vision about a flying scroll. He openly and brazenly calls the scribes liars and thieves! See the first few verses of Zechariah 5 and Jeremiah 7:11.

  • @TrentSmith-m4h
    @TrentSmith-m4h 3 дні тому

    I read the Book of Jasher front to back over a weekend. Jasher exactly corroborated by for most of Genesis, but it gives a whole lot more detail about the lives of the characters. Did you know that after being sold to the Midianites, Joseph prayed at his mother’s gravestone and heard her voice from beyond? Did you know Jacob never bought the story of Joseph’s death? (A wolf ratted out the 10) did you know Judah, Simeon, Reuben and Lehi all had powers like Sampson? Seriously, we could just about swap out Genesis, plug in Jasper, and we’d lose nothing but gain TONS!

    • @koltoncrane3099
      @koltoncrane3099 2 дні тому

      I think people also need to read Joseph’s last sermon I believe the king follet sermon. He said there are tons of things I want to tell you that he knows, but he said I can’t because if I do you will kill me where I stand. Joseph smith said if I tell my followers that are lds what I know they will kill me. So sure you can say Brigham got somethings wrong, and others are improving the church today with new revelations. But you can’t prove or know what’s known but not taught. Imagine for instance if church leaders knew Jesus had a wife. They couldn’t teach that without having a horrible PR nightmare and perhaps some people getting violent especially in the past. Idk about the Adam god theory or other things. But Joseph smith clearly knew there were some truths and doctrine that if taught would cause church leadership to be stoned by the members since that’s what he taught. It’s like sure people should know what’s official teachings and not, but like if the king follet sermon is right then there’s things leaders know that are so offensive or incongruent with what people believe that they can’t teach it. It’s kind of crazy to think about.

    • @koltoncrane3099
      @koltoncrane3099 2 дні тому

      Also the apocryphal books I think I read Joseph was told not to update or fix them with revelation but that those reading witj the Holy Ghost will know what’s true. It’s like I really wish he would have updated it haha. It’s like were there giants from angels mating with humans or was it the atmosphere? The Christian creation non profit in Texas used a chamber with increased atmospheric pressure and oxygen and got dragonflies to grow like 20% larger. If earth had a different atmosphere and radiation or whatever variables are needed humans and animals maybe grew way bigger. Some call it a vapor canopy but it’s not talked about in the Bible and gen. 6 says giants came from angels crossbreeding. Then ya got Moses having spies go into Canaan and the spies returned saying they were like grasshoppers. Maybe that’s figurative but like if they were five feet and If people in Canaan were only 7 feet like I wouldn’t say it makes sense to describe yourself as a grasshopper. You’d think they’d be a lot taller or something. Does the apocryphal explain it?

  • @rexdorrough6173
    @rexdorrough6173 4 дні тому

    I like how we just casually mentioned and moved past the condescension of Christ disguising himself to get through heaven to perform the atonement. That grabbed my attention lol I want to know more

  • @mappyman8271
    @mappyman8271 4 дні тому

    The Book of Mormon is Fiction.

  • @coryhorton5837
    @coryhorton5837 4 дні тому

    “Don’t tell your bishop you listen to Ward Radio.”

  • @jeffwhipple2658
    @jeffwhipple2658 4 дні тому

    Jonah is the best! Great episode. Can’t wait for his book to arrive. Really looking forward to reading it.

  • @andrewdurfee3896
    @andrewdurfee3896 4 дні тому

    Those who read the Apocrypha with the Holy Ghost will benefit from it. Paraphrasing the Doctrine and Covenants.

  • @sarahswanger979
    @sarahswanger979 4 дні тому

    Very interesting episode. I enjoyed it. 😊 Eve always knew there was truly no other way.

  • @joeriv4151
    @joeriv4151 4 дні тому

    Pre ordered the book!

  • @c.douglass8170
    @c.douglass8170 4 дні тому

    Adam and Eve "fell." ie the Hebrew word means rebelled. There was a curse, and it was a curse on the land (sweat of thy brow, thorns, thistles, etc.), and this type of cursing is also seen with Cain for killing Abel (the earth would no longer yield up her strength), with the pre-flood Canaanites (scorched, barren land), and so on. Not only do the Bible and BoM support this, but also the other patterns in scripture including the Crucifixion when you begin to see all its symbolism (for example, it's not a coincidence that He wore a crown of thorns, and there is other imagery of the Garden in the Crucifixion).

  • @c.douglass8170
    @c.douglass8170 4 дні тому

    In their state of innocence, Eve was beguiled, they were not all wise otherwise they would have known that there is a proper way to partake of the fruit, that there was a plan.

  • @QuickCanon
    @QuickCanon 4 дні тому

    Legit

  • @charliehands5266
    @charliehands5266 5 днів тому

    Complete psychopaths.

  • @mikesessions01
    @mikesessions01 5 днів тому

    Enjoyed the episode. Eve lied to father? So wise that she made a well thought out choice to partake, but when confronted by father she lies? Hmmm... Not buying it.

  • @jacbox3889
    @jacbox3889 5 днів тому

    That was awesome, looking forward to reading your book Brother Barnes!

  • @pythonista466
    @pythonista466 5 днів тому

    Modern non-canonical works and authors frequently quoted in General Conference include: Lectures on Faith (Originally the "doctrine" part of Doctrine and Covenants) Hugh Nibley C. S. Lewis: Mere Christianity, The Silver Chair Dietrich Bonhoeffer: Letters and Papers from Prison N.T. Wright Why are we afraid to teach one another out of the best books? It is the Holy Ghost who witnesses of truth, not an arbitrary list of books. Another book I would love to hear quoted is Leo Tolstoy's The Kingdom of God is within You

  • @jacbox3889
    @jacbox3889 5 днів тому

    I think it is the same for our time, there are things that should be in the Church and things that shouldn't. Brigham got a number of things wrong blood atonement, treatment of Blacks, treatment of women, polygamy being needed to attain the highest kingdom, Adam God theory. More current changes: using the name Mormon to describe Christ Church, the back and forth of how to include families with different sexual orientations in them. The changes in our Temple ceremonies seems to get better and better too. I like that our prophet said the Restoration is ongoing.

    • @MommaCrissa
      @MommaCrissa 4 дні тому

      I believe he used the word ongoing because, "we screwed up and were slowly going back to the beginning to what Joseph Smith brought through the Book of Mormon", just wouldn't sound good.

    • @koltoncrane3099
      @koltoncrane3099 2 дні тому

      Jacbox I think you need to read Joseph’s last sermon I believe the king follet sermon. He said there are tons of things I want to tell you that he knows, but he said I can’t because if I do you will kill me where I stand. Joseph smith said if I tell my followers that are lds what I know they will kill me. So sure you can say Brigham got somethings wrong, and others are improving the church today with new revelations. But you can’t prove or know what’s known but not taught. Imagine for instance if church leaders knew Jesus had a wife. They couldn’t teach that without having a horrible PR nightmare and perhaps some people getting violent especially in the past. Idk about the Adam god theory or other things. But Joseph smith clearly knew there were some truths and doctrine that if taught would cause church leadership to be stoned by the members since that’s what he taught.

  • @psychlops924
    @psychlops924 5 днів тому

    This was awesome. I’m looking forward to reading Jonah’s book. I’d also love to see Jonah talk to someone outside of the church, especially the Hello Saints guy, because so many evangelicals have disdain for our doctrine on the Great Apostasy, and I feel that could be cleared up if they understood the the Great Forsakening. Anyway, thanks for sharing!

    • @gingersnaps215
      @gingersnaps215 2 дні тому

      Considering many of them have an inerrant and “God breathed” view of the Bible, I don’t see any such conversations as being fruitful in the way you hope. Probably, it would just solidify their beliefs about our “misguided ways” and “woeful midunderstanding” of God and scripture.

  • @lucyjackson3754
    @lucyjackson3754 5 днів тому

    Love Jonah Barnes the associate professor of all things apocryphal! ❤

  • @MichaelGMoney
    @MichaelGMoney 5 днів тому

    Hell yeah! Love this Jonah Barnes guy, MUCH cooler than the Bonah Jarnes guy, that guy hasn't even written a book before! Excited for his book (Jonah Barnes, not Bonah Jarnes)

  • @trishalebaron6994
    @trishalebaron6994 5 днів тому

    Great as always!

  • @deborahjones8175
    @deborahjones8175 5 днів тому

    Nice content! Love it! Thank you. ❤😊

  • @andrewreed4216
    @andrewreed4216 5 днів тому

    Would you please be able to do an episode on more scriptures. As the recent ojibwe/book of Mormon conference brought up so interesting things too. Also the nemenhah records (book, second complete edition), as i had a vision before reading it, during reading it, and after reading it, to which christ said "dont persecute my people the nemenhah." I would be very interested in other peoples experiences.