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@@AdamsHadEnough yea mate. If I’m going offshore a long way I take a pump, I use the ppc travel pump. My friend uses one called “k pump” I think, which is even smaller and lighter. I’d never take the pump with me just to reinflate on land as it is a pain in the backside carrying the pump… if I wanted to reinflate on land I’d just leave the pump on the beach. 🤙🤙

@@drytransfer1939 yea, I’m enjoying the 50 skinny for surfing with the 1350 and 1250 on slightly shorter fuses. 1350 sillyshort a+ 50s 1250 crazyshort a+ 50s ^ that’s for small conditions If I size to the 40skinny I’m lengthening the fuse to compensate. If I don’t, it gets too loose for me. I’ve enjoyed the 1250-1070 with the 40. I’m interested in getting a 30-35skinny for higher performance and will be using them on the 70cm fuse most likely with the 1250 and under foils, maybe not even the 1250… just the 1160 and under. The rear foil make a major difference with the fireballs and most other foils too. 🤙🤙

@@nice2care quite similar boards. For me the north horizon kind of won between the two. I think the horizon has more forward projection through the water vs the kts and also more stableness. The horizon is also a clear winner in durability. I liked the concave deck of the kt but would change it to a flatter shape if I could… I like the cut out but wish it was a flatter surface, comparatively the horizon feels a bit more on top of the board vs in the board??? I don’t think the cut does anything good for you, besides giving the mast somewhere to sit. I fell like it robs the board of potential continued board dynamics. Instead you have something that is flat and non dynamic. 🤙🤙

@@stkl23 great question. It’s turnier for sure. I’ll try test the bottom end of the 1350, my last feeling when I used them close together was that the 1401 had a touch more low end linkability. At that point I was new to the fireballs though. Either way it’s very close. I havnt followed much online recently, who’s saying that the 1350 had better bottom end? Just writing that makes me notice the word better” that makes me think that the 1350 is likely better, but might not have the same low end efficiency by 1-1.5kph 😅 🤙🤙

@@michaelkihn8311 interesting point. The idea of not having them is for performance, less weight and having a deck handle is horrible and can be dangerous (damaged toes) In defence of the current regime the boards are quite narrow and you can easily get an arm around them with foil attached or without. But I hear you, I can see some people wanting the handle for extra handling options. One can pretty easily add a handle as a home project or order as a custom. Personally I prefer the way it is as I don’t want a handle, I wouldn’t use it in the water… maybe on land for an easy pick up. I do all my on water handling by the foil, it gives me a lot of leverage for control, not ideal if running sharp gear though! I’d be interested in what percentages would prefer a handle vs without. Thanks for commenting 🤙🤙

@ With "handle" I am referring to a tiny carved-out hole, not a "footstrap"-type of solution nor anything sticking out "outwards". Once messed up my big toe on those center handles of an inflatable SUP.. since them literally wearing boots ALWAYS.. safety first.. The "grabber" prefereably on the bottom side in front of the Foiltrack as in the past .. Yeah, the boards the "professional" guys are shredding are narrow and their arms strong and long 🥲 .. but what about the other people 🥹

@ yeah I know the handle you’re talking about. I’ve had toes slipping into the hole before and ended up with banged up digits on my old wing board. Instead of grabbing that handle I find grabbing the mask and then the stabiliser and floating the board on its top surface the best option for me . I guess the Long armed ape would be the best example of pro rider was strong long arms! 🤙🤙

@ In one of my favorite spots, grabbing ANYTHING of the foil scared the s... out of me when entering and exiting the water! Haha, definitely would prefer that cut out!!! Let's see if/how others react! Some of the spots you are having access to for leaving the water seem like a natural swimming pool! I guess finding a spot to exit smoothly is part of the whole downwind game! 🤓😎💪💪

@ I had to think about my exits when I was in Perth, there’s quite a lot of energy crashing at the exit on the bigger days. We were aiming to foil in as far as possible and then jumping off up wind of the board. The board gets let loose but downwind/wave of you and you can kind of wade in as far as possible before taking control of the board. Good for self preference but hard on the gear… these days I put myself first though, if I have to ill set the gear free! If it means getting my feet safely on land from a dangerous situation. Thanks for the ideas 🤙🤙

@@wingfoil_mallorca it feels a lot harder to begin! But slowly it becomes second nature. I size up my gear to make it even easier now… board and foils. It’s worth it to fit a run in or to even just explore it in its own right 🤙🤙

@@downwind_drifter Yes! It is always better to be out on the water if it is possible!!

@@IanClark-u2q great question! I have a large png foil for the lightest sessions. I havnt gone back to my spitfire (I only have the 1180) at all… I keep the 1099v2 with me but I’m having so much fun with the fireballs that it rarely sees light now… Its more surfy though and is likely pick it for sup foiling in a lot of spots (if I don’t want to scuff up my fb’s 😅) Currently all I’m using is fire balls… but I think once the new factor wears off I start exploring other foils again, first stop would be the 1099v2 🤙🤙

@@1rovingeye thanks for the great comment! I had someone recently saying they are noticing far less touchdowns with the Frank board! 😅 I personally notice myself touching down far less under normal circumstances… this was a sized up board and a deflate and very trick conditions and first run of the day after a few days off! The frank board has an amazing tail lift that keeps it out of the way it’s also narrow. The feel when touching down is pretty good. Touching down a rail grabs less that I’m used to which I think is actually a lot to do with the narrowness. It does seem to have the same lever to unsettle me. The rear touch down I’d say is barely noticeable. Any recovery movements taken are automatic for me! I’d have to ask my subconscious! 🤙🤙

Such a beautiful world sometimes! Existential musings… musical perhaps? 🤙🤙

@@cheynedowsett I’ve seen many little ones, small hammerheads. I’ve seen one bigger bronze whaler about 5ft maybe. I think about them often, but in mostly a practical way. I know they exist. I don’t splash or rush when sitting still for eg, I also don’t linger. If I can scan the water around me I will and take note. If I’m in dirty water or brackish I’ll take extra precautions and won’t be as likely to dangle my legs. I don’t tempt fate any more than no I need too. I grew up seeing jaws… but I’ve seen enough sharks to know that they seem practical too. I don’t imagine them attacking something large, just for the hell of it. So I act like I belong there too 🤙🤙 Hope this helps 😎

@@zenji1 oh yes. It was unexpectedly good! 🤙🤙

Turning with the waves can help to keep the foil in the water. As your finding if you stay vertical the Foil will want to come out of the wave … if you can keep your Board parallel to the wave the Foil should stay inside… It takes some time to build experience with things like Cross swell’s, it all starts to make sense eventually. A 75 mast should be fine. What fuse and stabiliser are you using ?

Yeah even seeing it in person it can be a bit hard to understand! The pole is just my paddle that I use to paddle up myself onto Foil , it also has the camera on it. Once on Foil I can surf my way Down Wind a little bit like the America’s Cup boats but without sails. I’ve got videos using a drone for footage from my lovely girlfriend, you should watch them to get more of an idea! I hope you stick around , if interested it’s a truly glorious activity 🤙🤙

That’s a good question! The only Shop I know that Has a down winder person there, is Ppc, in Barrys point Road… Sam Loader Downwinds. If you can’t speak to Sam get back to me and I’ll try to point you in the right direction 🤙🤙

@@mikesiddells3211 I think they are all pretty similar with bottom end. It is very easy to reactivate the 1350 when it starts slowing, maybe easier than the other two. It likes to accelerate! The 1350 likely turns the best too, its only competitor would be the 1300 but I would say the 1350 doesn’t kick as much as the 1300. I’m not speaking with much confidence on this one as I haven’t spent much time on the 1300V2 For light conditions the 1350 is all I grab… everything else is in the cupboard.

Do you think the 19mm aluminum mast is stiff enough for the 1350?

@ great question. I can’t answer it for sure… A shorter mast like the 68-75cm I’d say yes without to* much wobble but likely still some unless your ~70kg The longer sizes like the 82+ you’re definitely better to invest in a new mast vs a large fireball! But to answer the actual question I wouldn’t use the longer 19mm Alu masts with the 1350 due to the likely wobble… I hate any mast flex, I think it ruins the entire system. It’s like foiling on a yoga ball. If one was using the 1401 or similar with the 19mm they are likely to feel the same thing as the 1350fb 🤙🤙

@@asquared01 thanks for the great message! You will try the no wing until you stall method? I haven’t been out to those islands , but I am curious to Look and maybe even do down winders from that side to the Yasawas! I think it’s about 200 km! Is July the windy season for Fiji? I’ve never quite figured out the winds or waves of Fiji!

@@slappysurf that’s a really good question! I dipped my camera in the water the other day and it pulled the shaft out… The handle part of the shaft floated with the camera on it at least. I would assume that there is foam in the blade and in I was gonna say the handle but there won’t be foam in the handle… But I’m sure both pieces float individually, and when I say sure I’m about 80% 😅 I’ll give it a test

@@michaelkihn8311 just trying it out… I was going through a short fuse for every thing phase! These days I’d be on the crazy most likely for that front foil… it’s even pretty good on the short fuse when you think you’ll be out in some bombs! 🤙🤙

@@damien130970 great comment. 999v2 would feel a touch soft for me in those conditions without some good wind! The 1099 would allow me a bit more ease and feel. The fireballs are excellent. The 1070 is likely similar to the 999 but I’d likely size up to the next size up when it releases… especially if you’re enjoying your current foil and want something a touch different. I think there’s too many variables to consider perhaps to try and list the stall speeds of each foil. With time I think a general understanding is formed and most ride the gear to their personal limits rather than the gears limits. I hate stalling out gear! Even for testing… I find it scary for some reason. With a wing it wouldn’t be so bad as you have something to balance against but with a paddle it’s tricky. With that said I have played around with stalling foils somewhat… i’ve tested some of the pump and glides and they won’t even stall, they’ll just softly lower and you can even re-establish on them with a quick unwaiting and diving them as long as you have some mast height left. I think the stabiliser comes into play too with the stalling it maybe stops them from diving/falling backward Some foils stall and during that stall re-power from the fall that ensues. The fireballs have quite a strong low end with the new Foil section. I can’t say much more than that with stalling… I’m sure I’ve captured some of the low wind speeds on my videos and I could probably talk about some of the individual Foil ‘s, but beyond that it would just be subjective. You’ve given me food for thought and I might try and incorporate a stall section to my videos , let’s see if I’m brave enough! 🤙🤙

@ agreed, stalling out with a paddle is much worse. With a wing you can often recover or at least remain upright. As I think further and make it more complicated. I only really care about stall for two reasons, how easy is it to get the foil flying and how slow can I go while hunting bumps. But stall speed is not everything. For instance, the spitfire 1180 that I ride (it does stall slow) gives lots of warning pre-stall, which allows you to play on the edge of stall and wait for a bump to form. I appreciate the early warning because with a quick weight shift you can solve the problem. The art V2 999 gives less warning (but still some warning), but it is faster, glides better and turns better. Suffice to say it is a tricky subject and a stall number in KPH won’t give the whole picture of what is better. For instance, as I said before the V2 999 has a slightly higher stall speed then the Spitfire 1030…. But with a wing and a bit of practice it simply requires an extra pump and has less drag, so I reckon I can get both foils up in the same wind/wing combo. Therefore, does it matter that it stalls a bit higher. It’s all fun figuring it out (but bloody expensive 😀). So all we have to do is have a foil that glides well, goes fast, turns well, stalls slow, gives stall warning, recovers well and tells us whether to go left or right to link up the next bump😀.

The problem is that stall speed is relative to body weight, but you could list it for a specific average weight like KT does.

@@markreadett7412 short and sweet this one!

@@ramunasbajorinas7686 I think I hear it 🤙😅🤙

@@wingfoil_mallorca hard to answer this as there are too many parameters and my mind can’t cope! But the 1099v2 rides like a lower aspect foil than the new fireballs. The problem is the new fireballs are so good that they also seem to ride like a lower aspect foil and keel all the high aspect benefits…

​@downwind_drifter does this compare to the fireballs? Looking at this or fb 1070 for prone foiling in waves

@ hard one. Both are likely good choices. The 1099 is lower aspect and likely better for turns… The fb is higher aspect and will likely be more drawn out turns at my level but I’m sure good riders can use smaller sizes and shred. 🤙🤙

@@nice2care you might be right with your concern, my axis gear is all the way forward… you might be ok but you should definitely research it further.

@@nice2care 🤙😅🤙

@@1rovingeye yea no pain or strains! I’ve done a couple runs since, in 20-30kts and they were very relaxed. This one definitely raised the bar 🤙🤙

@@markreadett7412 I thought Sam had actually fallen off at the start! I was surprised when he first showed up and even more surprised he was there at the end when I fell off! Sam is a beast and an excellent downwinder. Ski guy seemed stoked, I think I’ve seen the same guy on a bunch of runs 😅 Love duelling footage 🤙🤙

@@christomo I’ll ask mum if they were from Amazon! Happy new year! Yea I’m stoked to have captured this run. I was often going straight down wind but a lot of times I was actually overtaking the bumps! They were often quite quick, that left me feeling a touch over foiled and that I could have sized something down. I used the 1070 in Perth a few times too in much smaller conditions, I have footage but don’t get round to using it. Hopefully I find time to upload some back log! I feel like there’s no in between with Foil sizing in these bumps, you either need small and quick or big and slow … I think in between your end up overpowering your Foil. This is just a theory though… but I’ve seen guys managing big slow foils in these bumps too 😅 🤙🤙

@@raymondwitvoet good question. Really hard to say in this sort of wind! The 8’4 was my previous go to and is very good. In all other conditions the Frank board has blown it away… I havnt backed to back them though in these biggest conditions. You’ve started me thinking though about the strong wind scenario, my guess is that the Frank board is likely still dominant but I havnt compared them… It’s hard to know for sure without truly testing them memories of gear can be great! But then you actually go back to them after the new kit and then you know… I’ve done this in all other windspeeds and the Frank board is a clear winner 🤙🤙

@@downwind_drifter Thanks!

@@wingfoil_mallorca yea, I’m trying to find a barber that’s open. Too much foiling happening 🤙🤙

@ 😜😂😂

@@stkl23 happy new year and beyond 🤙🤙 We’ve been very lucky here in nz with a lot of good wind over the holidays! The best kind of busy 🤌🤌

Thanks for sharing the stoke 🤙🤙

@@zenji1 🤌😇🤌

@@Pembsfoilclub oh yes I took flight alright! 🤙🤙

@@zenji1 he might not have said the hair part 😅 I can be a trouble maker! Thanks for coming back for 2025 🤙🤙

Baahaha I’m sure. Thanks for the lit vids!!!!! So sick!!! The best froff material for the new year yewww!!! 🔥🔥🔥🫶🫶🫶

Interesting question. I think the run would have been harder and a lot less fun. I would have gotten to sustainable riding later in the run, the middle where it was good would have been less fun (but still good) and the end would have been really tough with the crossed up conditions. The correct foil for me this day would have been 1 size up in the fireball range. The largest fireball to come turns like the 1180 🤙🤙

Cheers - interesting! I've noticed with your recent change to the Fireballs & v2's you're covering double (or treble) the distance of your 1180 runs 🤸🔥

@@elbastos3rd yea, I think that’s mostly because of confidence after doing runs in a few different countries recently… Fiji was truely a self rescue situation! So nz feels safe as chips. I’m also psyched on the new gear and want to dw as much as possible! 🤙😅🤙

@@wingfoil_mallorca I think the 1300v2 is an easier foil to master and likely better as a beginner. The 1401 can be tricky for a lot of people out of the gate, but if you put the time in, it’s a great cruiser foil for getting from a-b. The 1300v2 is more playful and understandable. Fuse wise… shorter is physically easier but requires a certain level of skill to control. If you don’t have that control then going a bit longer becomes better as you are less likely to make mistakes… The crazyshort 60cm is a good middle ground. You’ll eventually go though a lot of gear as you explore things for yourself, it’s a very circular activity as there is no best option often as we are all so different and even exact setups can be ridden quite differently but different riders… stance plays a big part in this. If paddle Downwinding, getting on foil is your first priority! This often requires many gear sacrifices as far as playfulness… if winging or towing or other methods get you onto foil, you can select slightly more playful gear but that is only true if you can then link sustainably- this is most important once you can get on foil. It’s a long journey and it is hard earned but well worth it 🤙🤙

@@michaelkihn8311 I’m not sure it matters too much how one gets in foil. More important is staying on foil and linking bumps in a sustainable way… that’s not just pumping. The 1099v2 would be a fun surfy option if the getting on foil was easily taken care of. I size my foil to ride the bumps, the ocean sets the playing field and there is only so many ways to go about it. A fast foil can easily become underfoiled… and you don’t want to be out in bumps underfoiled if your goal is to ride unpowered! So yea, I’m often on the bigger sizes for the riding aspect 🤙🤙

@@IanClark-u2q the easy answer is yes get a 110L litre Frank/axis board. You’ll be stoked and will likely sell your first board. Lots of benefit to the longer narrower board. Any more info needed hit me up but the 110 is your board

@@michaelkihn8311 the fb could possibly do it. I mean it will for a group of people… there are so many of us riding gear experiencing different things! The biggest fireball that is coming has good lift at low speeds where as the 1401 has more surface area. They likely meet somewhere in the middle. There will be so many foils in the future too. I’m sure we’ll get some pump and glide style ones and even more that nobody has seen yet. 🤙🤙

@@sourmash1972 1300v2 will be the one and potentially the largest fireball to come as you first step down foil. The 1300v2 will be a staple in your quiver for a long time and will teach you what you need to learn. 🤙🤙

I couldn’t say sorry, about the wing. I can’t visualise it. It sounds like it should be ok. I am so stoked I put in the time and learned with the paddle, I recommend it if you are able. It is a great tool and gives a lot of satisfaction. I appreciate the message and interested to hear more about the wing you’re thinking about.

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Very adventurous on your own,well done 🤙

@@markreadett7412 I’ve gained a lot of confidence from experiencing dw in other countries now, and seeing what others are doing. I feel good about my skills 🤙😎🤙

@@rmoisio 🤌🤌🤌

@@selinaakaselenya I’m still trying to work Siri out 😅

@@selinaakaselenya it all goes by in the blink of an eye! Perth was amazing 🤙🤙

@@jockharcourt9936 which ones? 🤙🤙

@@smotruns 🤙🤙

@@michaelkihn8311 yea 76cm is much easier for me to paddle up than the 80 and I like the feel of connection to the foil and the angles it uses. Cut the mast to 76cm, re drill the screw holes and cast a new fuse mount around it… simple! 😉 ^ but not for me… I got someone to do it for me 😎

@@downwind_drifterhello. would you have a video of how the mast was shortened ?

@ no video sorry. Imagine cutting the fuse connection off and then having to build up and create another fuse connection, around the raw mast that has been cut. No joins. 🤙🤙

No a chance I’d do this - 800mm is a perfect length for DW, especially if you go fast and wild conditions. Never had any issue padding it up.

@@AndyCaska yea it’s not for everyone. I love the 72cm too but sometimes it’s a bit short for the surfing aspect or in bigger bumps as you suggest. I have found the 76cm to be a great in between for me. Much easier than the 80cm to paddle up and better feel for me too, also stiffer. I think I’d only go for the 80cm now for security in bigger bumps, less chance of breaching when you bomb down those straight steeper faces! 🤙🤙