Socratic Michael Strong
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Might our biology lead us to tribal or ethnic genocides?
Alana starts with a solid summary of the main theme from our last convo. Here I pick up on where we ended, the tension between the "purpose of life" being reproduction and/or fun experiences, on the one hand, and the Golden Rule, on the other. Here I extend the tension, ultimately asking if our biology (with reproduction as the end) combined with a desire for fun experiences might lead to Nazi-like tribal or ethnic genocides. By nature, of course, she would like to believe that our purposes would lead to peace and prosperity for all. But I push her - what if some people enjoy cruelty or killing others? What if some people understand creating a better world for their own to involve killing others (as did the Nazis)?
Two years ago she was all kindness - and I would not have pushed in grim directions as I have no desire to prematurely force grim possibilities on children. But at puberty children change dramatically - among other things their interest in and ability to think about the darker sides of human nature often develop rapidly. Here she is fully ready to consider how her commitment to biological principles (at least at this point in her theorizing) does not include a natural or obvious place for morality. Obviously we are only at the beginning of thinking through these issues. But she is intellectually and morally mature enough to begin thinking about these issues (at age 12).
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“If I were living anywhere near one of your schools, that’s where I would send my kids, because that is the closest approximation to what I did with Laura, and maybe a much better environment, because there are other kids around. The way that you do education is pretty much the way I did education with Laura, except that you are a pro.”
- Homeschooling father of Laura Deming, matriculated at MIT at 14, left MIT to accept a Thiel Fellowship at 16, and who by 20 was a leading anti-aging VC.
Socratic educator Michael Strong, author of The Habit of Thought, models how to engage your child in a conversation about ideas so that they develop curiosity and the habit of thought.
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Our most Socratic convo in a long time
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Although this channel is titled "Socratic Michael Strong," because I only check in with Alana for about 15 min. per week, much of it is getting to know her, her world, her goals, etc. Insofar as the essence of "Socratic" interaction is the mutual expectation of consistent and coherent understandings, we don't always have time to exemplify that kind of interaction. But this week we did. This wee...
Alana's takes on UAE and her Socratic tutoring of a 9 year old
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We debrief on Alana's trip to the UAE, including her perception of cultural differences. She regards the different standards of women's dress as the primary cultural difference and attributes it to religion. Because she doesn't have a deeper knowledge base on this, I choose not to push the issue. We move on to discuss her Socratic tutoring of a 9 year old, where she is still building rapport. W...
Alana Wins Gold in Abu Dhabi and catch up on Harvard CS50
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Alana is in Abu Dhabi, where she won a gold in her category in an international competition. She rode a camel and saw sunrise from the observation floor of the Burj Khalifa. We also caught up on her progress on Harvard CS50, which she started last spring. After taking a break for the summer, she started from the beginning again this year. She is finding it both easier and she understands it mor...
12 Year Old Reflects on Socratic Mentoring of 9 Year Old
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Alana has begun providing Socratic Mentoring of a 9 year old, "C." She begins by reflecting that she accelerated to intellectual content too quickly, attempting intellectual dialogue on a quotation which did not successfully engage C. On her own she realizes that she needs to return to building rapport for awhile more before moving back towards intellectuality. We discuss our "Socratic Parentin...
Do we need to experience tragedy to become more mature?
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After a brief check in on her trip to Alaska, I ask Alana about her role in Socratic mentoring a 9 year old (referred to as "C"). She has not yet begun, but he is reading Larry Gonick's "Cartoon History of the Universe" at my recommendation. I think provide her with a template of how to engage in such convos, 1). Ask what is interesting to him. 2). With our larger meaning connections, we help h...
Alana's role in selecting and editing her own videos at AlanaExperience
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Alana explains her role in selecting and editing videos for AlanaExperience, the Instagram channel composed of 90 second clips from the eight years she and I have been engaged in intellectual dialogues here on UA-cam, from age 4-12. While her father is still producing some of the videos, she is now completely producing many of these videos herself, from selection to editing. She recalls a coupl...
Alana learns to lead Socratic convos
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A parent of a nine year old boy is interested in having Alana lead his son in Socratic conversations on history. Alana loves the idea of playing the role of "Michael" in these conversations. She has led some class discussions at The Socratic Experience with peers, but she has never been responsible for engaging a younger person one on one. We discuss the importance of building rapport to start ...
Alana launches Alanasexperience on Insta!
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We start by discussing her launch of AlanasExperiences, her Insta channel highlighting clips from our dialogues together - along with a more positive spin on earlier ones about which she feels cringy because she was not as intellectually sophisticated as she is today. We then do a check in on Harvard CS50 (she is doing the most challenging version of the Lesson One problem set this time) and Th...
Loving your child's mind: First week of school
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Alana and I catch up after her first week back at The Socratic Experience. She loves her STEM class, her creative writing class, and is starting from the beginning again with Harvard CS50 after taking the summer off. We check in on The Iliad and Jane Eyre, with a focus on the conflict between Achilles and Agammenon and the role of the gods in the Iliad and implications for human responsibility....
Starting the 24-25 School Year at The Socratic Experience
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Sometimes I engage Alana in serious Socratic inquiry. Sometimes I just check in. If a relationship is always based on rational inquiry, and never on caring about the other person, it can come to seem heartless. But everyone wants to be seen and cared about. Having an authentic interest in another human is a prerequisite to educating them. Here I start by checking in on Alana's start of the new ...
Loving your child's mind: Alana as Champion
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I check in on Alana's winning a tournament last weekend, her intense training regimen, and the math and reading she is doing over the summer. She is trying to read books that were too challenging for her in the past, including Robinson Crusoe and Atlas Shrugged. Unlike recent convos in which we've discussed intellectual texts (e.g. Kant and William James), here I'm simply taking an interest in ...
Alana, age 11, working through William James's "On Habit"
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This is a good example of how I lead children to work through difficult texts. The habit of working through difficult texts trains them to read challenging texts on their own and develops their mind. A few key steps following our first reading of it together: 1. I begin with a check in on how difficult she perceives it to be. The key Socratic mindset is "Do I know what I know and what I don't k...
Jocko Willink: Discipline is Freedom
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Alana was raised on Jocko Willink's The Way of the Warrior Kid, which inspired her to get into Jiu-Jitsu. One of his slogans is "Discpline is Freedom." We compare physical discipline with mental discipline, and her relationship to math, computer science, and reading. Why is it that we enjoy something we don't need discipline? And if we enjoy doing valuable things, when do we need discipline? An...
The Declaration of Independence
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In honor of Independence Day, Alana works through the first two sentences of the Declaration of Independence. Above all, I want to normalize working through difficult prose to work towards understanding. Part of that is developing the habit of breaking it apart into smaller units as needed. Note how different this kind of reading is as compared to simple narrative reading, as in reading a grade...
11 year old discusses Kant's "What Is Enlightenment?"
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11 year old discusses Kant's "What Is Enlightenment?"
"What are your goals for the summer?"
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"What are your goals for the summer?"
Alana on becoming a mentor
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Alana on becoming a mentor
How Can Alana Raise Funds for Buddies over Bullies?
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How Can Alana Raise Funds for Buddies over Bullies?
What is science? Prediction, evidence, causality, and truth
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What is science? Prediction, evidence, causality, and truth
Bitcoin and money - just the beginning
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Bitcoin and money - just the beginning
When should children be exposed to harsh truths?
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When should children be exposed to harsh truths?
Why are some countries poor and others rich?
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Why are some countries poor and others rich?
Alana on AI minds and manipulation
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Alana on AI minds and manipulation
How do you know what to believe? Diet edition
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How do you know what to believe? Diet edition
Alana on self-paced math learning
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Alana on self-paced math learning
Promoting her book on social media - and navigating social media use
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Promoting her book on social media - and navigating social media use
Alana on Harvard CS50, learning C
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Alana on Harvard CS50, learning C
Scientific Objectivity at the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
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Scientific Objectivity at the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
Jiu-Jitsu strategy
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Jiu-Jitsu strategy

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @thegritinstitute
    @thegritinstitute 3 місяці тому

    This is just fabulous. Thank you for sharing-- incredibly inspiring.

  • @darthlaurel
    @darthlaurel 6 місяців тому

    Very mature young lady.

  • @k90rbitrescue
    @k90rbitrescue Рік тому

    Brilliant

  • @sophieravel5323
    @sophieravel5323 Рік тому

    She is very articulate. Very self aware.

  • @marilynrhames5047
    @marilynrhames5047 Рік тому

    Such an intelligent, articulate young lady!

  • @coolwill5241
    @coolwill5241 2 роки тому

    Great conversation. Brilliant child.

  • @robinswanson9309
    @robinswanson9309 3 роки тому

    Such a wonderful example of a loving and thoughtful teacher asking questions to help students think and discover the meaning of complex literature/poetry. I like how Mr. Strong guides the students with great patience in finding out what they understand and then builds on their understanding to gain greater understanding of what was previously unknown to them. Little pieces of understanding eventually builds mastery. I look forward to seeing these kids in high school and beyond!

  • @Vitoriacastro
    @Vitoriacastro 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for sharing such amazing information. I'm starting to homeschool my daughter that just turned 3 (the Montessori way). Where else can I find more information on how to apply your method? Thank you in advance.

    • @SocraticMichaelStrong
      @SocraticMichaelStrong 3 роки тому

      Hi Vitoria, You can purchase my book, "The Habit of Thought." There are used copies on Amazon for $26 or email me at michaelstrong@expanseonline.co and I'll sell you a new, signed copy for the same price.

    • @Vitoriacastro
      @Vitoriacastro 3 роки тому

      ​@@SocraticMichaelStrong Hi Michael, thank you for your prompt response. I'm certainly sending you an email. Appreciate you (P.S. you are one of the feel that writes my name correctly. Thank you for that too!)

  • @paulburgess5111
    @paulburgess5111 4 роки тому

    Michael... big fan. A colleague and I have started a self-directed learning environment for 5-12 year olds and plan to expand to grade 12 in time. (wyldflowerlearning.org) Super interested in your schools you've developed and curious about webinars or workshops you might do. All the best - Paul

    • @SocraticMichaelStrong
      @SocraticMichaelStrong 4 роки тому

      Write me at michaelstrong@expanseonline.co and let's discuss. Good luck with the learning environment, I'm passionate about expanding these environments - and there are challenges.

  • @maxyazhbin826
    @maxyazhbin826 4 роки тому

    I thought I subscribed, I think youtube might have unsubscribed me

  • @krisskiss2500
    @krisskiss2500 4 роки тому

    Gentle bear 96

  • @Freelanse
    @Freelanse 4 роки тому

    Calm mechanic 99

  • @mrzman1267
    @mrzman1267 4 роки тому

    Intelligente night 73

  • @mrzman1267
    @mrzman1267 4 роки тому

    Intelligente night 73

  • @divinryan
    @divinryan 4 роки тому

    You don't love trash? Now we know why Oscar was so grouchy.

  • @fabiomaria7131
    @fabiomaria7131 5 років тому

    Your method is fascinating! I will try using questions in this way in my teaching now!

  • @ryangarcia5424
    @ryangarcia5424 6 років тому

    Thank you Michael for taking time to speak with Alana and engage her in Socratic dialogue. It stretches her brain, gives her confidence, and is invaluable human interaction. Mahalo nui loa!!

    • @SocraticMichaelStrong
      @SocraticMichaelStrong 6 років тому

      And she is a marvel of confidence and goodness! May the combination of martial arts and Socratic dialogue continue to empower her with respect to mind, body, and spirit!

  • @startupsocietiesfoundation
    @startupsocietiesfoundation 6 років тому

    We can't wait to hear your speech Michael! Find tickets and learn more at www.startupsocieties.com/startup-societies-summit-gmu-2018/

  • @ryangarcia5424
    @ryangarcia5424 7 років тому

    YOU GO DEAR ONE!

  • @pjamesbda
    @pjamesbda 9 років тому

    My 2 cents is simple; you are down in the weeds, and the issues are out in the open. What benefit is there in sorting out a sophisticated intellectual set of solutions?...if the outcome cannot be absorbed by the demos? Concentration of wealth is an extension of these same principles intellectually. What makes you think the concentration of solutions is any different? The "peasants" know something you have lost - that harmony exudes not from efforts of the mind - but that they first pass through the heart. What are these "bench marks" for success? Either in RBE or a Free Market? The people working at the organic hibiscus farms in Senegal may have been happier BEFORE they capitalized their "enterprise" to extend their "market value" in the system. Indigenous people on this continent existed for 1000s of years before we "civilized" them. Progress and the misery that sustaining our ideas of what that is have purged us of what they knew instinctively. And what we all knew at one point. Simple principles of connectivity to natural laws, accessible to anyone regardless of their standing of superiority or absence of it will reveal the obvious; that a child is closer to the solution than a professor. In short, I categorically defy this argument. If this suffering we go on about is near us, and we have the ability to address it - in our house, in our community we need look no further. No movements, no professor - just simply caring. We can't let our egos stop the little good each of us can do in lieu of discovering a "solution for the masses".

  • @neeleshmarik
    @neeleshmarik 9 років тому

    Michael and Peter, This is a fruitful exchange as of now, and hopefully remains that way, for arguably the most important issue of the world today - our socio-politico-economic organization. If I may pose a few questions here, the exploration of which could possibly lead to a common aligned ground of concerns which both of you ostensibly share, around which then the power of combinatorial creativity of your sharp minds could be brought to bear for a richer perspectival synthesis: 1. The biggest question any 'solution' perhaps needs to address is the modality of the organization of political power in the world. As I am sure you will agree, any systemic solution, resource based or market based, can easily be co-opted by people in power based on their quality of consciousness (read corruption-proneness). Along with making design choices of a socio-economic system, it is perhaps imperative to design an appropriate political system that is as corruption or co-option proof as possible. Am sure you have heard of Robert David Steele's Electoral Reform proposals and campaign, and the Michel Bauwens' P2P politics framework. How do you relate to the need of such (or any other) proposals being brought to bear so that sham of democracy across the world is given a requisite face-lift? 2. The second biggest question is probably the much needed overhaul of the monetary system. Am sure you will both agree that this cancer needs an urgent remission since any economic system is going to depend on the way value is exchanged. Do you think crypto-currencies enabled by decentralized blockchain type technologies had a chance of hitting a Moore's Law type hockey-stick productivity boost to rescue our world in about 10 years? Do you have other alternative thoughts on value-exchange currencies and livelihood options for creative entrepreneurs of the 21st century? Do you guys support the notion of basic income, and its political feasibility (considered in dynamic tandem with question 1 above!) 3. You both talk about Maslow the human hierarchy of evolving needs. How, in your view, can the evolving spirit of human creativity be unleashed without being coerced, and yet brought to bear on the entire gamut of human problems we face at micro, meso, macro and mundo levels? Eschewing terms like RBE and free market which have their own baggage and interpretative misalignments, how we can we organize ourselves best to constitute a self-organizing and seamless system of endless creativity? Do you guys intuit the need of a meta-platform of sorts. Something like a facebook plus that connects not just people, but intelligence and creative endeavour?

  • @worldpeace05
    @worldpeace05 9 років тому

    This guy is a fucking idiot.

  • @joequirk9421
    @joequirk9421 9 років тому

    “If all of the wealth of the United States of been given to Chinese citizens 20 years ago, it would not be as large a positive impact as the sixfold increase for 600 million people. It's a matter of wealth creation ...This is not to be trivialized by any means. Not only has free-market capitalism has brought 1 billion people out of poverty in the last 20 years, the reason it hasn't brought a lot more out of poverty is because poor countries are poor because of an absence of free markets, an absence of economic freedom." Humanity, clarity, and civility from Michael Strong

  • @milostvp
    @milostvp 9 років тому

    I hear only empty talk here. Capitalism is not about profit? Government bad, capitalist good? Cmoon dude get real

  • @JosteinZG
    @JosteinZG 9 років тому

    Small scale buissiness is where we see it working in civilised countrys yes, becaus emost fail if they dont do it that way. But bigger buissineses is when you get the problem of damage. But even then My question to you is how can you ensure that none wil exploit the system to ge the upper hand for as long as they are abel to hide it? Capitalism as it is is designed to produce poverty (economic poverty) The definition of being rich is to ahve more then others, if all had enouhg money to live a worthy life, none whould be rich, cus none whould be poor. You claim we do not understand economics if we say it produces poverty? that tells me rather that you dont understand the function of money as it is today. (Excuse my typos if you see any)

  • @alexmetchev
    @alexmetchev 9 років тому

    I think by what TZMOfficialChannel calls "illusion of evidence in tiny pocket examples" Strong means trends which will eventually spread worldwide as countries develop and will become the broad, long-term global trends. It's not theory but reality, albeit still on a smaller scale, as he explains, in countries which have moved up on Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

  • @brightgeistmovies
    @brightgeistmovies 9 років тому

    it's funny how you describe how fisheries have been made sustainable by introducing quotas. so you are literally saying yourself that it was intelligent systems of voluntary REGULATION that created sustainability, and NOT the profit-oriented self-interest of the market. and that is EXACTLY what a Resource-Based Economy is about: an intelligent system of voluntary regulation. so you literally argued for the same thing that TZM stands for.

  • @LizaPolitical
    @LizaPolitical 9 років тому

    Without any regulation how does conscious capitalism stay conscious? All through property rights? Not gonna happen. Look at the privatized prison system, business is blooming... but not so good for society. Your plan leaves so many out! It does not create societal balance. You speak of the importance of innovation but for innovation to be free to really excel we need a natural law resource-based economy. You're vision is being restrained by in the box/in this paradigm thinking.

  • @TerraRubicon
    @TerraRubicon 9 років тому

    At its foundation the free market is a competition, it produces winners and losers thus inequality. The latter, if unchecked, will always create friction in society counteracting any non-aggression principle. Even todays state regulated market capitalism produces massive inequality and where the wealthy basically act as an oligarchy influencing politicians. I hear you talk a lot about 'property rights' but if you set no limit to what an individual can own it again produces (massive) inequality. Entrepreneurs like the Koch Brothers are worth around 80 billion dollars. People like that are basically the new feudal lords of the (market) society. When people like this own land the size Texas it will give them and their family enormous leverage while millions of others will have none. In short, the Market is not answer to every problem. It causes problems all by itself.

    • @LizaPolitical
      @LizaPolitical 9 років тому

      A natural resource-based economy appeals to both left wingers and libertarians alike! Because if you really understand it you see how much sense it makes and the freedom it brings to humanity. You just Haven't done the research.

    • @TerraRubicon
      @TerraRubicon 9 років тому

      +pigeonpsycho We are not talking about you are better at sports, I'm better at chess therefor there's inequality. We are talking about 85 billionaires having more money than billions of people. The billionaires have far more influence and if you do away with government regulation you'll only grant them more power in a money-market based society. I never see you right wingers discuss this. Do you want corporate masters?

    • @LizaPolitical
      @LizaPolitical 9 років тому

      TerraRubicon Agreed. A RBE however, would result in a best case scenario for everybody!

  • @TZMOfficialChannel
    @TZMOfficialChannel 9 років тому

    We all appreciate your effort but your argument is just more Austrian fantasy capitalism where theory is assumed as reality -- too narrow in context and lacking in system awareness to be tenable. The argument is defended by the illusion of evidence in tiny pocket examples, ignoring the larger system reality and the broad, longer term global trends that contradict everything concluded. This is the common way apologists for free market operate. They also assume any turn for the better of any social problem MUST be the result of capitalism, ignoring that it was capitalism that created the imbalance/suffering in the first place -- while the trend turn is actually not related to capitalism at all when deconstructed. Property rights can not resolve broad environmental destruction in free markets because used resources are more profitable than non-used in the short-term. The temporal nature of business is always shortsighted and impulsive, as history has proven in aggregate. You can make anecdotal cases all day - it doesn't change how all life support systems are in decline and accelerating on the whole due to the need for cyclical consumption to keep pay checks coming in and people employed. 1 billion people did not come out of poverty because of free-markets. Markets are carrot stick incentive systems that produce a hierarchy of specialized labor, not ingenuity for creation. Only engineers create through science and the actual means of production can occur in many, many, many ways. Poverty has been reduced due to what J. Rifkin calls the "zero marginal cost" phenomenon - doing more and more with less and less - a scientific phenomenon similar to Moore's law. Has nothing to do with Capitalism inherently. In other words, it would work without markets existing under a different social system. It is a natural unfolding of technology and even communist russia saw the same trends prior to the cold war. If you bring flowers to your girlfriend, do you credit the car you drove as the reason for those flowers? Capitalism "creates" nothing. It is important to restate: Capitalism is just an incentive and delivery mechanism...and, as argued by TZM, sucks greatly compared to other advanced systems such as a RBE which bypasses price to create maximum abundance through advanced systems of information relay - more advanced than price and trade could ever hope. It removes the "labor for income" trap that pressures corruption as well, while also alleviating the pressure to consume for the sake of mere GDP. I stopped the video during the arguments about "regulation". This is utterly restrictive in what is being accounted for, apparently proposing that "any regulation" of markets causes problems with market efficiency and so on. Wayyyyy over simplified. The healthiest societies with the least poverty, least crime, highest education levels and best public health are the Norwegian countries that have a specific form of market regulation to assure an equitable distribution of wealth. They are not pure freemarkets at all.... yet they hold the highest level of public health on earth today. You also never stop to ask how the very severely messed up countries with extreme corruption and draconian market regulations you mentioned got started. Colonialism was a capitalist incentivised force that moved across the world for centuries, injuring Africa, Latin America and others in deep ways, setting the stage for extended tribal behavior from scarcity and fear. The long term outcome of this exploitation and destabilization are extra harsh economic protections to assure state power/crony interests and profit. It's systemic. True -- if "free-markets" came to them today they would improve given the existing condition... but that doesn't change the fact that the profit interests that underscore all capitalism created the highly distorted condition in the first place. And obviously, that created distortion is not going to go away due to "free market theory". What has been set in motion is too powerful. The great flaw with free-market religion adherents is that the complex, longterm intersecting effects of Capitalism are ignored, replaced by reductionist examples and false equivalencies that "appear" to justify the practice.

    • @TZMOfficialChannel
      @TZMOfficialChannel 9 років тому

      +Michael Strong Again, you are mistaking technological problem solving and development with the cart that brought it.Yes, some kids in Africa now also have cell phones.... yet they have no running water or electricity at home. As tech costs drop due to the "zero margin cost" phenomenon, many will improve their economic condition in certain ways - but that has nothing to do with capitalism itself. It is a law of technological progress, as Ray Kurzweil points out. Value is inherent in tech efficiency as it evolves and that is irrespective of price and markets at the root. And as an aside, to what extent is this real life "prosperity" exactly? China's growth fetish has created 16 of the most polluted cities in the world. They turned in their bikes for polluting cars to help GDP. They may not be as poor but they are counter acting that by the inherently destructive nature of the market's production of negative externalities, lowering quality of life. As far as this "Entrepreneur" theory stuff, you can praise the creativity and organizational skills of people in general - but that is all it is. And this creativity can be facilitated in many different ways. The false assumption that there is an empirically relevant role to those who are "Entrepreneurs" is frustrating as it takes a temporal phenomena created by business culture and assumes it is the most optimized method possible in economic theory as a whole. There are other, better ways to allow for people to contribute and create, as discussed by TZM. Overall, you give great examples of vague outcomes, short term positives and assumptions that take no larger system data into account. Anecdotes have no value in social science. The only relevant stats are larger and long term, requiring a deep dissection of the interacting structures that comprise them. In this holistic, long term view, we find nothing but negative outcomes, with the only exception being technological progress itself - which has raised the standard of living of society for the time being, (at great external costs that will, rested assured, come back to haunt everyone). Again, this has nothing to do with capitalism and markets at its core, which is exactly why TZM promotes a model that focuses on the technical nature of existence, as that is all that matters economically. Doing so, you remove the vast, poverty/conflict creating, environment destroying negative externalities that capitalism will always create, no matter how it is arranged and no matter what the entrepreneurs think or do.

    • @TZMOfficialChannel
      @TZMOfficialChannel 9 років тому

      +Michael Strong It's disappointing how basic systems theory is lost in the economic community, where intersecting aspects of the socioeconomic condition are ignored, falling back on - yes - vague and superficial declarations that have much more complexity underlying than assumed when it comes to public health, social stability and ecological stability. While any reduction of poverty has been shown to correlate to increased public health, the mere argument that a reduction has occurred to whatever degree under a given economic method does not suddenly justify the practice. As I said before, the reason most countries are in poverty is because of the long term effect of colonialism, which is - by all scholarly accounts - a product of business interests and the interest in profit - capitalism in form. I know of few countries that exist in extreme poverty that have not been dominated by a foreign power working with capitalist exploitation in the past. Will more local free markets help? Yes... if they ever get them, which is slim due to the damage capitalist ideology already set in motion or reinforced, spawning militant dictators and oligarchy. 2nd, and more specifically, the account of this "extreme poverty" reduction is highly suspect and far from impressive even if true in the long run. If you research the history of the "Millennium Developmental Goal 1" of the UN, you will figure out that various bogus baseline moves and accounting tricks were used to create the figures they claim. In 1990, the World Bank realized poverty lines of the world's poorest countries clustered around $1 per day. The WB said in its 2000 annual report that "the absolute number of those living on $1 per day or less continues to increase. The worldwide total rose from 1.2 billion in 1987 to 1.5 billion today and, if recent trends persist, will reach 1.9 billion by 2015." Hmmm - Not good info for Capitalist loving folks and WB/IMF policies, eh? So - they moved the goal post from the official $1.02 (1985 PPP) to **$1.08(1993 PPP) [**given inflation was lower in real terms]. This trick allowed a technical "reduction" of poverty by 400 million between 1981 and 2001. Then, in 2008, they moved it to $1.25 (2005 PPP), accounting for millions more that are now "saved" from extreme poverty.... all because of the glorious free-market. Now- I'm not saying the market hasn't improved some things but as I said before, it is shortsighted to assume a system that literally created mass poverty to begin with by unequal distribution of wealth and war should now be credited with helping the circumstance it started by its very dynamics. Even more, the confluence of system effects with ongoing pollution, emerging resource scarcity and other externalizes that have direct link to the consumption driven/highly competitive market, are on pace to reversing this modest trend rapidly. Again, the market IS NOT A SYSTEM OF PROBLEM SOLVING. It is a just a system of organization and a terrible one at that when compared to other possible models. Only technology and design solves problems. I'll put it this way, all major anti-poverty institutions have stated that the world produces, right now, enough food for every human being. As denoted in the statistics present in the book The Zeitgeist Movement Defined, we have a new technical capacity to feed many thousand times the current population based on advanced methods in agriculture currently going unused. With almost 1 billion staving on the planet today, with a vast technical means to solve this problem available but not being put into practice, is the great indicator of the vast inefficiency of capitalism. Not to mention, capitalism is based on class division for labor exploitation and the odds of it ever creating a large reduction in social inequality is highly improbable. Again, the ONLY thing giving the illusion capitalism is working is the natural dev of applied technology. Did I mention there are more slaves in the world than anytime in human history? 27 million in debt peonage and other nearly feudal mechanisms across the world. While, as you note, there are pockets of public health improvement, there are also vast disease and mental health issues rise across the world, with structural violence killing over 18 million a year because of market byproducts. And war? The US, China and Russia are trying to figure out what to do when the very first major resource crisis hits the planet, spending no time building their arsenals. A few nuclear bombs would make these minor poverty statistics quite pointless. And by the way "GDP"? It is a false measure of social prosperity. The US plutocracy is proof of that, with enormous amounts of money moving amongst the 1% alone, creating the illusion of broad spending and growth. I could go on and on about the system confluences and market driven externalities that are converging into a perfect storm of negative outcomes. If you don't agree - fine - just wait and see. People like yourself, as well meaning as you are, are simply pushing a genocidal, elitist system that is going to damage everyone in the end... just watch. ps- recent health measures have also suggested that to achieve normal life expectancy, at least $2.50 per day is needed to live today. If that standard is sound, which has been justified by Peter Edward of the UK, then the real number in extreme poverty is actually over 3 billion.

    • @TZMOfficialChannel
      @TZMOfficialChannel 9 років тому

      +Michael Strong In ten years, you will see further pollution, ecological decline, increased overall poverty and social unrest due to interrelated factors all centered around the economic system and its injustice both socially and ecologically. The grace period of capitalist progress is over, as I described before, given the convergence of negative social and ecological pressures mounting. I find it interesting that you keep promoting the same weak, short-term stats, derived from GDP - many of which I have already addressed - ignoring the repeated observation that this development is not about capitalism at all - it is about the dev of technology and its dissemination - which will occur regardless of the system employed - the only role the economic system has is the degree of amplification of this capacity. While recent improvements have been made by markets, they are nothing compared to the technical possibilities that go untouched/fought/ignored due to the restrictive nature of the competitive, profit driven, self-interest oriented, scarcity focused economy that roots back to the Malthusian period. You ignore that - because if you didn't, you would be debunked from top to bottom. As far as your sense of history and the roots of market development, you clearly need to read some books. The market did not "emerge" suddenly after feudalism - it was underlying in its core structure from the moment civilization settled and specialization of labor became tradition, fostering the interest in trade/medium of exchange - and any basic historian of economics understands this foundation. You again ignore this for it ruins your isolated view of the market practice, as though it was novel to Adam Smith's time - giving false grounds to attribute things to capitalism by comparison when there is no solid, detach distinction - only mutations. Yes, there are 27 million slaves in the world right now and since I suspect you have an internet connection I suggest you research it and think about the dynamics of why. Saying things have "improved" denotes very little in this scenario. I could say 18th century American slave owners could have improved the welfare of their slaves by giving them more resources, easing their lives, improving health and even allowing literacy -- that does not correct the condition of slavery itself. Yes, during the course of "modern" capitalist reign in the last two hundred years, we have set in motion the greatest decline in biodiversity and life support systems ever. All the stupid gadgets and microwaves mean little when there is no fresh water or rare earth metals left. Not only can this be tied to the self-interest of the market focused institutions without question, the UN even stated that all large scale goals to slow this process have failed due to commercial projects which simply have no incentive to preserve or conserve. The pollution driven by industry - seeking to save money as all market interests do, have reached epic proportions in both land/ocean and air, with huge consequences pending. The recent immigrant crisis, the endless wars driven by profit seeking corporations in collusion with government are also evidence of this grand disaster the market mentality and the tribalism it embraces creates. Yet all of that macro data noted (and look it up) you still persist with these cherry picked, short-term and erroneous declarations that it has been markets that have improved the world. No. It has been technology and communication and while markets have help facilitate this, it has reached the end of its productive system capacity on the global level and needs to be updated/replaced before the byproducts of the market system further destroy and destabilize.

    • @michaelstrong1632
      @michaelstrong1632 9 років тому

      +TZMOfficialChannel I note that you have not made any predictions regarding the future progress of TZM, along the lines I proposed: "Are we likely to see a successful TZM community/jurisdiction/governance system for 10,000 people within the next ten years? 100,000 within the next twenty years? Regarding your predictions of environmental catastrophe, I'm reminded of Yale historian Paul Sabin's account of the second attempt between Paul Ehrlich and Julian Simon to be on progress (after Simon won the first bet): In 1995 Ehrlich and Julian Simon tried to agree on a second wager. Ehrlich, along with Stanford climatologist Stephen Schneider, challenged Simon to bet on 15 indicators of material change: concentrations of carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, and ozone in the atmosphere; global temperatures; tropical forest area; and quantities of harvested fish, rice, and wheat per person. Simon refused, arguing that these proposed indicators affected human welfare only indirectly. Simon instead suggested indicators that directly measured human health and economic well-being, things like life expectancy, leisure time, purchasing power, and commodity prices. Rather than bet on change in a physical entity such as the ozone layer, Simon suggested measuring “the trend in skin cancer death.” The physical world, Simon suggested, could change around us, but progress of human society would continue, bolstered by new technologies, adaptation, and markets.www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/science/2013/09/ehrlich_and_simon_bet_what_terms_should_we_use_to_gamble_on_earth_s_future.html I would take a similar tack as Simon: Let's bet on the fundamentals of human progress, which I predict will continue to increase. I'm quite willing to believe that by some metrics the environment will be worse (e.g. the Pacific plastic garbage patch may be bigger, more species may well have gone extinct) and yet humans will, on average, be living longer lives, with lower rates of infant mortality, more leisure time, etc. The very reason such bets are important is because the fear-mongers have been wrong over and over again.

    • @kyleeaton2717
      @kyleeaton2717 4 роки тому

      @@michaelstrong1632 Can't you just agree, I mean all that reading and writing. You went through all of that, you would still doubt good intentions? If we can amplify well being and ecological sustainability with a different economic system why not? I understand you may not think we'll realistically see it in our lifetime but if it's more rational just fight for it on the principle of preserving rational justification itself.

  • @TZMOfficialChannel
    @TZMOfficialChannel 9 років тому

    "Conscious Capitalism, Peace through Commerce...Radical Social Entrepreneurs" -- Holy Shit! This should be good. ;) Honestly, it's too bad the prevailing doublethink is what it is out there in the well-meaning economic communities.

  • @PeaceRequiresAnarchy
    @PeaceRequiresAnarchy 11 років тому

    I just made a PowToon a couple days ago myself and realized that narration is very important to making it popular. Great content in the video though.

  • @SocraticMichaelStrong
    @SocraticMichaelStrong 11 років тому

    Nobel laureate Gary Becker disagrees: “There are various ways to describe Friedman’s influence. But one way is to ask, ‘Has he helped many people-poor people in the world?’ And I would just take India and China, 37% of the world’s population. Hundreds of millions of people are now able to live at a much more decent standard of living as a result of more free-market policies. There was one person who they are more indebted to than anybody else that person is Milton Friedman.” And there is more.

  • @JanetHudgins
    @JanetHudgins 11 років тому

    All depends on the kind entrepreneur you are talking about. It's the raw exploiters that will take the best of everything from anywhere they can get it leaving a shambles behind. Will you weed them out and ensure the security of the victims of these people? As for Friedman, we all know neoliberalism and the Chicago School of Economics has done to literally destroy the economics of whole countries. Enough of him!