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Sengin31
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"De-mixing" Sonic Generations 3DS' Big Arm to run on Sega Genesis
Download links to the mp3, a looped version of the mp3, the midi file I created for the 3DS version, and the midi file for this demix: 1drv.ms/f/c/042790b2341089e6/EuaJEDSykCcggAQhcwAAAAABLqXkEY-1mu7hscEDI9ELLw?e=UU6MNN
Jun Senoue's version of Big Arm in the 3DS version of Sonic Generations is legendary, and I think most would consider a true successor to the original (same goes for his version of Casino Night!). If you haven't listened to it, you can find it here: ua-cam.com/video/sYV3e90zjE4/v-deo.html
I was curious what it would sound like had it been created back in 1994 and used as the final boss theme, with the same restrictions on sound chip hardware. Unfortunately, no midi file existed so I had to create one from scratch. Thankfully, @deannkosi2079 had already transcribed the lead instrument on his channel, and I was able to enter the notes as the sheet music scrolled by. If not for that starting point, I can't say I would have made this - I am absolutely terrible at pitch detection and music transcription. Thankfully, there's tools these days for the pitch-inclined such as myself.
I used www.lalal.ai/ to split Senoue's version into as many stems as possible, so make it easier to look at the frequency spectrum to determine which note was playing. Then used Audacity with its EQ and spectrum analysis. I had to really EQ the stuff with some steep slopes to carve out the noise, but I think it turned out pretty well. I am sure there are a few wrong notes in the harmony as I could cleanly separate them out, so if you want to take a stab at fixing it please do - the midi file is linked above.
To recreate the Genesis' sounds, I used the Genny vst (www.wonthelp.info/genny/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2). I imported Sonic 3's version of Big Arm from vgmrips.net/ into Genny, which let me use the same instrument parameters the devs used for the original version. I used ValleyBell's (github.com/ValleyBell) vgm2mid tool to create a midi from the original Big Arm as a starting place, as the first part of the remix is the same (with only slight alterations).
Then throw in a bunch of work and experimentation and this is the result! It's certainly not expected to 'replace' the 3DS version or anything, but it was a curiosity of mine.
www.vgmusic.com is currently not accepting midi file uploads as they work on some backend stuff, so if they ever come up I'll upload the 3DS midi file there.
Jun Senoue's version of Big Arm in the 3DS version of Sonic Generations is legendary, and I think most would consider a true successor to the original (same goes for his version of Casino Night!). If you haven't listened to it, you can find it here: ua-cam.com/video/sYV3e90zjE4/v-deo.html
I was curious what it would sound like had it been created back in 1994 and used as the final boss theme, with the same restrictions on sound chip hardware. Unfortunately, no midi file existed so I had to create one from scratch. Thankfully, @deannkosi2079 had already transcribed the lead instrument on his channel, and I was able to enter the notes as the sheet music scrolled by. If not for that starting point, I can't say I would have made this - I am absolutely terrible at pitch detection and music transcription. Thankfully, there's tools these days for the pitch-inclined such as myself.
I used www.lalal.ai/ to split Senoue's version into as many stems as possible, so make it easier to look at the frequency spectrum to determine which note was playing. Then used Audacity with its EQ and spectrum analysis. I had to really EQ the stuff with some steep slopes to carve out the noise, but I think it turned out pretty well. I am sure there are a few wrong notes in the harmony as I could cleanly separate them out, so if you want to take a stab at fixing it please do - the midi file is linked above.
To recreate the Genesis' sounds, I used the Genny vst (www.wonthelp.info/genny/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2). I imported Sonic 3's version of Big Arm from vgmrips.net/ into Genny, which let me use the same instrument parameters the devs used for the original version. I used ValleyBell's (github.com/ValleyBell) vgm2mid tool to create a midi from the original Big Arm as a starting place, as the first part of the remix is the same (with only slight alterations).
Then throw in a bunch of work and experimentation and this is the result! It's certainly not expected to 'replace' the 3DS version or anything, but it was a curiosity of mine.
www.vgmusic.com is currently not accepting midi file uploads as they work on some backend stuff, so if they ever come up I'll upload the 3DS midi file there.
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Northstar Shenanigans
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Long clips, short clips, odd happenings, and of course a few curves and ricochets that happened in Northstar (github.com/R2Northstar/Northstar), the community-led mod for Titanfall 2 that adds private servers since the real ones were being attacked and rendered unusable for a long time. Music: Spoiled R0TT3N by Ben Briggs Download here: ocremix.org/remix/OCR02158
Full Song Restorations! Sonic 3 & Knuckles Music as the devs heard it
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See ua-cam.com/video/TbDraNCnJP4/v-deo.html for information about this video. Download links: Full song restorations using source samples: 1drv.ms/f/c/042790b2341089e6/EuaJEDSykCcggATfXAAAAAABPYungEkOmdj-FVoqjHgcqg?e=Jtx8L3 Original HQ Sample Pack: 1drv.ms/u/c/042790b2341089e6/EeaJEDSykCcggATgXAAAAAAB4UILRGlkf0SFOSneEHCXXA?e=ydYzU8 Source samples for Vox and glass breaks: forums.sonicretro.org/...
Sonic 3 & Knuckles Music as the devs heard it - the original non-distorted percussion!
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Download links: Full song restorations using source samples: 1drv.ms/f/c/042790b2341089e6/EuaJEDSykCcggATfXAAAAAABPYungEkOmdj-FVoqjHgcqg?e=Jtx8L3 Original HQ Sample Pack: 1drv.ms/u/c/042790b2341089e6/EeaJEDSykCcggATgXAAAAAAB4UILRGlkf0SFOSneEHCXXA?e=ydYzU8 Source samples for Vox and glass breaks: forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?threads/does-anyone-have-the-original-hq-samples-used-in-sonic-3-knu...
Sonic 3 & Knuckles 'Robotnik's Theme' with intended drum sounds
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NEW: See here for newer and better version: ua-cam.com/video/sHSdlW4SaO4/v-deo.html Old description below: Download here: 1drv.ms/u/s!AuaJEDSykCcEgbY8tsrwFVYBBerzPA?e=3hpHDi You may need to hit the "x" in the upper left to see the file list if it defaults to playing the mp3. Yeah I know, this is quite the departure from my regular content... A more accurate (but longer) title would be "What wou...
Collateral
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Featuring the myriad of different weapons to get 2 kills per trigger squeeze as a pilot (can you say hemlock collat?). Unfortunately I was never able to get one with a mozambique :(. Song: Strip Mine by Beatdrop Download free here: ocremix.org/remix/OCR01214
Spoiled Ingredients 3 (unused ricochet and curve shot clip dump)
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I wasn't able to use all the curves and ricochets I had collected in Secret Ingredients 8, so this 3-part series of 3-minute clip dumps will feature those. Some of the clips were too long, some I couldn't get to sync with the music well, some required some setup time for the payoff, and some just weren't curvy too small for what I wanted to showcase in my final Secret Ingredients.
Spoiled Ingredients 2 (unused ricochet and curve shot clip dump)
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I wasn't able to use all the curves and ricochets I had collected in Secret Ingredients 8, so this 3-part series of 3-minute clip dumps will feature those. Some of the clips were too long, some I couldn't get to sync with the music well, some required some setup time for the payoff, and some just weren't curvy too small for what I wanted to showcase in my final Secret Ingredients.
Spoiled Ingredients (unused ricochet and curve shot clip dump)
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I wasn't able to use all the curves and ricochets I had collected in Secret Ingredients 8, so this 3-part series of 3-minute clip dumps will feature those. Some of the clips were too long, some I couldn't get to sync with the music well, some required some setup time for the payoff, and some just weren't curvy too small for what I wanted to showcase in my final Secret Ingredients.
Secret Ingredients 8 (120fps version, play at 2x speed!)
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I haven't had the chance to upload a Secret Ingredients in 120fps yet, and since my experiment seems to be a success, I figured I'd try this! To play at 120fps, set the playback speed to 2x (and make sure your monitor can display 120 fps and that your settings in your OS (e.g. windows/etc) are at least 120 fps for that monitor). Why does the audio sound weird? When you play a video with a speed...
Secret Ingredients 8
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A far more curvier curve montage - cross map curves, blind ricochets, collats, curves AND ricochets, 2 curves 1 combo... I am quite happy with these clips. I collected over 140 clips for this, using only the curviest ones and the most unique ones. No little curves here. I know I said that Secret Ingredients 7 was my last one, and it really was going to be. But then Titanfall 2 launched on steam...
120 fps montage experiment (play at 2x speed!)
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Trying an experiment - not sure if it'll work out. Make sure to play at 2x speed! I recently started recording at 1440p@120fps and wanted to see if I could make a 120fps youtube montage work, so I put together some recent clips and this is the result. Hopefully youtube will allow 120fps videos by default soon. Why does the audio sound weird? When you play a video with a speed modifier, youtube ...
Secret Ingredients 7 (featuring a shot that took 2 years!)
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So, I really was going to stop with 6. But then I hit that last shot and HAD to make another one! This time it really feels like the final one, from the song choice (a different remix of the same song the first one had), to the editing (while I don't really *edit* and more sync clips to music, I spent more time trying to get it 'just right' and have clips flow to each other), to the clips (the ...
Secret Ingredients 6
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My bullets don't go straight. Kraber only this time, mostly curve shots but there's a ricochet section as well. Probably my last in the series (at least for Titanfall 2, fingers crossed for an eventual 3rd in the series...). I hope you enjoyed this one (and the series)! Music is "Time Chill" by mv, a ReMix of Corridors of Time from Chrono Trigger. You can download it here: ocremix.org/remix/OCR...
Secret Ingredients 5
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Curving bullets around grav stars, but this time with a ricochet intermission! Includes my furthest curve and furthest ricochet. Music: The Swaggin' Dragon by ToxicxEternity ocremix.org/remix/OCR03766
Him not spindashing is just so unsatisfing
@ 2:45 hmm 🤔 ok ok. 🎵 @ 3:07 😎 Aaaayyyeee 🎶
One year…! Still goes hard!
You took one of the most important moments in my childhood and expanded upon it. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.
I just LOVE playing Flying Batter Zone Act 2. So glad they put Flying Batter in Mania!
There's a pitch problem that I noticed in the AIZ1 remaster.
0 lives ☠️💀☠️💀☠️
I tried opening the midis on LMMS but it crashed :(
Haven't heard of LMMS but that sounds like a bug in that software :(. MIDI is pretty standard.
THIS IS GOD...
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
慕名前来，很厉害😘
2:41 that nearly dead
This remix is honestly incredible, great job! I hope you do more of these in the future, because demixed versions of Sonic ost are goated!
Can you make an extended version of this, please?🙏🥺
Look in the description :)
That gameplay is killing me with anxiety. Great remix btw, really good job
Hah, yeah had to do something pad out the runtime or the boss dies before the end of the song...
Okay, this demix is absolutely incredible! Seriously, it takes talent to make a rearrangement this good. Outstanding work here!
Pretty sure you are giving me too much credit, as I did not need to arrange much, if anything. But thanks!
1:01 (not) almost perfect
1:41 the moment my jaw proceeded to hit the floor. I have never listened to the Generations version before today, and then hearing this was a blast
SEGA doesn’t fuck around with the music 99% of the time.
When metal sonic becomes Hyper ( thanks for the ideas someone)
Truly one of the best of us
a true demake would be made on a tracker tbh, not using midi stuff NOR soundfonts/vsts that mimmick the limitations of the genesis
Mind if I can use this to make an enhanced sound font version of this cover?
Sure, that's fine with me - just credit the video. But if I may ask... why? I didn't create any new instruments for this - all are from existing S3&K stages. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean?
@@Sengin31 I mean the Midi file.
@@actiongamemaster8082 Oh! Yeah, that's why I released it - feel free to use it.
You know these are in sonic 3 air? Right. Edit: well not the 3d blast music
This video is a year and a half old now. I don't believe they were part of AIR at the time, and in either case this video is to show off the sample pack I created. When I last checked back then, there was no such pack available - for anyone.
@@Sengin31 oh my bad bro i thought they where from that game also great job on the tracks they sound amazing
This is cool. Sounds like something SiIvaGunner would come up with.
Dude I'm listening to this out of my phone microphone this sounds EXACTLY like the music from the DS version of the game
There's a ds version??? :O
@SmartCreeper456 yeah, it's on a game collection
My favorite 3ds sonic generations track in the original game it came from Great remix!
Make the flying battery guitar thing 1 octave higher and also make the claps louder
those restored hats are so familiar, where are they from?
It's one of the sampled hats that comes from Reason tweaked slightly for decay
This is amazing! Do you think you could do this with Crisis City Act 1 and Chemical Plant Act 2? Great job!!!
feels like when your ears pop
Nice video! While the sounds are definitely improved, its also quite impressive how well the developers approximated the Korg with limited hardware.
Since not everyone can process what was said in the description, I'll summarize here. What you're hearing is the channel owner reconstructing the music with better samples, to hear the music the way it sounded before it was pushed onto consoles. 1) The way the console works, parts of the processor force the sound chip to put out compressed sound. It couldn't handle uncompressed music on top of what else it was busy doing. 2) Also because of the limits of the sound chip itself, certain sound samples (like cymbal crashes) cannot play at the same time as other sound samples. 3) Fixing this issue would have been too expensive to push on to the customer. They could have slightly sacrificed graphics to improve the audio quality, but this was at a time when graphics needed to be the forefront, at least on the marketting front.
Appreciate the summary, you can find more details here: ua-cam.com/video/TbDraNCnJP4/v-deo.html That other video was intended to be the data dump, while this one a 'companion video' that just has the songs.
Could you create a new link for the downloads? The onedrive links have expired.
Ugh, I wasn't aware that onedrive ever expired links. I created new ones and verified they work on another browser - please let me know if they do not.
@@Sengin31 gonna have to check tomorrow; microsoft screwed me over out of using onedrive for ZERO reason (I created an account today and it got blocked) edit:nevermind it's unblocked now. yeah the links work. thanks
@@biskitvixxn You shouldn't need a onedrive account to download them. I tried it on a private browser (so no previous cookies, no saved settings, etc) and I was able to download.
Holy shit! I used to despise Volcano Valley Act 1, it always seemed a bit bland to me. But now I absolutely *love* it!!!
🎵🎵🎵🎵
so that’s how Sonic 3 AIR’s ost sounds nicer
I know there was a guy who was working on it. He claimed to have found the samples but wouldn't tell anyone 'until it was done.' Then he disappeared and stopped posting /shrug. Then I finally found these.
@@Sengin31 That’s fascinating! It would’ve been so cool to know him at least with like a voice recording or something. I never favor much of the crunchy PCM samples in Mega Drive/Genesis games. I get why and it’s a big challenge pushing every sound effects to the rom with the game data too.
1:33 - 1:42 dow dow dow dow dow dow dow dow dow dow dooow dew dew dew dew dew dew badadada, badadda.
2:45 RUN!
I love this, but I kinda want someone to demake Snappleman's Malicious Fingers and then mix it with this to create a mammoth masterpiece
Flying Battery Act 2 went WAY harder than it needed to Old Sonic music is already perfect, but that track in particular turns the vibe up to 11
I think that will be nice mod in Sonic 3 A.I.R
Sonic 3 AIR mod? Anyone? Please?
0:20
wow it's cool to hear my favorite songs in a different way!
The theme of the battle of shame and Google
THAT SURPRISE SONIC 3D BLAST APPEARANCE WAS AMAZING
I was pretty surprised to see that 3D Blast used mostly the same set of percussion samples. It makes sense to save on resources, but the format of the music and the synths chosen are so different from 3&K I just never realized.
@@Sengin31 i kinda just figured it was the same thing as 3&k because it released after it by like 2 years also you fixed up one of the best songs in the whole game tysm 🥹🥹
1:33 THE EPIC PART BEGINS
by any chance do you have a download file for the original compressed samples? what im talking about is the crunchy samples (the first ones played in the single sample comparison)
I don't but I'm sure it exists out there somewhere
Hey, Can I use this music in my game? Please?😥
Sure! Just credit me back here to this youtube video is all I ask.
@@Sengin31 thank you, so much!
its still very impressive either way, the genesis was great