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I did beat him without taking any damage, which doesn't actually require Superguarding him. Guarding is enough to make him do no damage.

@@Miccat87 Okay!

I would argue Superguards being easier in the remake is somewhat debatable. Some are easier, but there are others that feel harder, at least to me, so it kind of balances out. I would say they generally feel more fair, which I guess technically could mean they're easier. Anyway, it's cool to see hear that some other people are trying out pit challenges.

@@Miccat87the pokey tackle is harder, probably and maybe a few others as well and ice piranhas can breath but for exemple : embers grow before damaging you instead of counting 6 flame shakes, daisies have a note that hits you, and a lot of attacks come out slower like lakitu spiny roll attack and the piranha bite and I still think that the 33% timing window increase is significant but idk I haven't played the original in the last few years and I have never done an early pit run in the original

@@poochycosme Well, here's several more that I personally find harder in the remake: - Chain Chomps (The timing is consistent in the original, but in the remake, the timing changes based on how far away they are. As such, you have to learn four different timings to consistently Superguard them.) - Swoopula/Swampires (Since you have to Superguard as soon as they latch onto you, the audio cue you could use in the original no longer works.) - Wizzerd lightning (It's slightly earlier than it used to be, which means you have to react faster and the visual cue where you watch the movement of the hands doesn't work as well.) - Bonetail's Breath (Like the lightning, it's slightly earlier than usual, requiring better reaction time. Also, the visual effects of the different breaths vary a bit, which can throw off some visual cues, particularly with the freeze breath.) - Gloomtail's Megabreath (Instead of being almost visually identical to his normal breath like in the original, it looks totally different now, meaning you have to learn a new visual cue to Superguard it. Side note: it might be one of the coolest-looking attacks in the remake.) - Beldam's Blizzard (The enhanced visual blizzard effect makes it harder to discern a good visual cue compared to the original.) - Shadow Queen's hand drain (The visual sparkle effect isn't as well-defined as in the original, making it a bit harder to use as a visual cue.) Another thing to consider is that attacks being slower doesn't necessarily make them easier to Superguard. After all, the reason Embers are so hard to Superguard in the original is because it takes a long time for them to damage you after they move up to you. Same deal with the Pokey lean attack in the remake. Ultimately though, Superguarding difficulty is a subjective thing that comes down to player perception, so I suppose it makes sense why some people would think they're easier in the remake.

@@Miccat87 tbh, I know next to nothing about the superguards outside of the pit that aren't an attack that the enemy does every turn, also a lot of the other ones that are definitely really hard and I personally suck terribly at bonetail in general but for chain chomps, isn't it the opposite or something ? Because in the remake, I just use the sound with a rythme to superguard them easily and the one in front moves very slowly while the one in the back moves really fast (but I think they hit at the same time) Also, one reason I find the superguards easier is that I don't use audio/visual cues for many attacks, and I just kinda guess for the other ones like wizard lightning so the timing window increase matters even more in that case

You are correct. I'll fix that shortly.

Jumping on charged Ice Puffs doesn't deal any damage to them. That only works on Poison Puffs for whatever reason.

@@Miccat87ok thanks I noticed that in the remake too a few days ago

Golden Seedling defense is very wacky. I almost wonder if I should try to investigate it a bit more.

That's strange. Did you defeat the Bill Blasters in that room? Maybe that's what triggers it?

@@Miccat87 It must be that. I didn't beat the Bill Blasters. Makes sense then.

Yeah, they are helpful for Bonetail because of his Unsuperguardable bite attack, but also can be nice to have for some other later floors if healing is needed. Also, yes, I will be upgrading HP and FP more. You'll get to see how the strategy develops as I get more of this run uploaded.

Me neither.

Well, I do think it would be nice if they patched that, but I don't know how likely that is. Glad you still enjoyed the remake.

Yep. While it was probably intended to be purely harmful, it actually can be quite helpful in some specific cases.

Yeah. I mean it's bottom tier either way, but the change they made definitely didn't help its case.

Would make this fight even harder if they removed it.

Pretty sure that's impossible. The most damage any item can deal is 7, and the final boss has 210 HP to deplete if you consider both phases. Even with 20 items, you couldn't come close to winning. You'd have to allow non-consumable stuff to some capacity for a run like that to be possible.

@@Miccat87 you're right, with that math you'd need at least 10 more items

@@HavikXIII You'd need 31. It takes at least 9 items to deal 60 or more damage for the first phase, then at least 22 to deal 150 or more damage for the second phase. Even with 30, it would still barely be impossible.

@Miccat87 you could use the stipulation that you can only attack while under the affects of an item, but then items that last 9 rounds would break that

Yeah, I could see that also being an overrated one. It's amazing in early pit runs, but truthfully isn't that good otherwise.

I thought it was so good as a kid, but replaying and reevaluating now, the only situations where I see it useful are slow challenge runs where mega/power rush, power bounce/multi-bonk, etc aren't allowed

I grew out of Fire Drive somewhere between late chapter 3 and early chapter 5. Even without dupes, it taxes your FP _hard._ You're probably getting the most mileage out of it in Chapter 3 due to the free Inn, and then you'll be burned out - no pun intended.

I mean, I'm evaluating them based on how useful they are in a challenge running context, not on how easy or convenient they are to use. Besides, 10 or 20 items is still plenty of room to plan some pretty crazy item combinations.

Doing a second stylish doesn't actually increase the amount of Star Power that you recover, so there's not really any reason for me to risk missing an action command to do it. For other moves, such as basic jumps and hammers, I often just automatically do it from muscle memory, and they wouldn't interfere with action commands. Anyways, I'm glad you've enjoyed watching these videos so far.

@@Miccat87 so even power smash with its 4 Stylish moves is only worth one? If so thats kinda lame but I still think they're really fun.

@@Crust_Crease In terms of SP regeneration, yes, but I think multiple stylishes can increase the number of audience members in some cases.

I'm not using 12 of the BP that I have (excluding Peekaboo because that's purely cosmetic and has no actual effect in battle). As such, while the game displays my level as 10, it's actually 6. The stats listed for my strat as written in the description show this as well.

@@Miccat87 Ok, I'm just a dummy who didn't read further in the description. Carry on!